Remember when I said he has that bit more than Kolbe?
Doesn't sound that crazy to say that now, huh?
Remember when I said he has that bit more than Kolbe?
Doesn't sound that crazy to say that now, huh?
I can’t separate them as Kolbe is just as magic
For me, Kolbe isn't as dangerous as Arendse.
And their try scoring records for the Boks are evidence of that.
Arendse - Caps 15, Tries 13
Kolbe - Caps 31, Tries 14
If you only and tries, it's not even close.
Well when Arendse get,s the Ball, he usually has a open path to the try line….not always and he has improved a lot but for me, Kolbe has that ability to cut defences to shreds and score…running thru defenders like Aplon on his way to the try line….Kolbe is still a bit stronger in contact….But arendse has heaps of Talent and will get there sooner than later.
Mpower is spot on Kolbe has scored far more impressive tries at test level than Arendse has
Thanks Dave…that is the First time you have been nice to me : )
Let's see...
Rassie is the best Bok coach ever because numbers don't lie.
But Kolbe is better than Arendse because numbers do lie.
I could understand if Arendse scored maybe 25 to 50% more tries than Kolbe...but 100%!?
Cumon guys.
Numbers mean zero as they provide no context. Huge difference between stepping 3 or 4 players and scoring than having a straight run in with no defenders to beat
What I am saying is that Kolbe has scored more individually brilliant tries at test level than Arendse has. That to me is the true measure. Scoring a straight run in try is not a measure of how gifted you are.
Back to the subject - given these facts and how impressive both players are, I can’t separate them and say one is better than the other
".........I can’t separate them and say one is better than the other"
Have to agree, they are both highly skilled, gifted, instinctive, think on their feet and blessed with speed. I picked Arendse early last year, think it was in a chat with Draad and Mpower also think it was Draad who tipped him as one for the future but I stated that he was already there.
And as for separating them, no you can't unless of course you're a rugby genius who has AI evaluation skills.....I might add I don't see one in this domain. Point is there'd be a similar end result if either of them was put in the same situation.
That's the "difference."
So a step is more valuable than the ability to position one self so well that you're up there with all-time greats in terms of try scoring ratio.
Laughable!
Will Jordan is better than both of them though.
He's on 31 in 31 games.
Arendse's try ratio for the Bokke is incredible...can't argue with that...I thought it would be decades before Habana's try record will be broken...if Arendse stay fit and keep it up...
He rarely scores one untouched, almost magical but no he works a try and that's why it looks magical.
Damn right beating defenders is more valuable than being in the right place but we know that Kolbe has that gift as well as does Arendse the step
One is not better than the other and try ratio says nothing as it provides no context. Jordan is brilliant but he is not better than Kolbe or Arendse
If try ratio’s were a measure fuck me we would be saying hookers were all brilliant attacking players when reality dictates they score the vast majority of their tries from the back of a line out maul
1. Wingers are there score tries...the more tries the better the winger.
2. Hookers main roles are scrumming and lineout throws. The more accurate the lineout throwing and the more successful the scrums the better the hooker.
I understand this is far too complicated for some.
I saw Arendse play at Twickenham against the All Blacks. On that day he was so alert, he just seem to have so much time and his reflexes looks effortless. He is almost like Floyd Mayweather in terms of how he moves and responds. He moves so quickly.
Kolbe to me looks like he has lost some pace. I have been watching a lot of highlight reals of Kolbe in Japan and it looks like he is really struggling to play in Japan. There are many similar players like him and he has less space given that the Japanese players are just as agile as him.
Where as up north it is easy for him to carve open defences against slower and bigger players.
I think Kolbe has been great for us but I am worried that he has lost a bit of pace and effectiveness.
Arendse probably should take Kolbe place, maybe Fassi or Willemse at 15 with Moodie on the wing. Nice balance in the back three.
Mpimpi. Le Roux should not be considered for the boks. Kolbe still have a role but he is 30 already
Kak man Kolbe is 30 there is absolutely no reason he should be replaced
Arendse is younger so yes probably has more zip in him right now
But the facts are - Kolbe has scored more impressive tries at test level than Arendse has
Why would you want to play Moodie on the wing when he is developing nicely at 13 and we need a youngster deputising for Am as he is 30 now?
I agree with King Moodie is a excellent wing and at 13 I want to see Henco van Wyk….man that guy is tough…excellent runner with ball in hand, offloads very well and defends like a man possessed….no wonder Rassie picked him…Moodie made his big impact on the wing and my opinion that is where he should stay….and Kolbe is definitely not over the hill but a Moodie and Arendse on the wing is also a formidable move.
Kak man Henco v Wyk is another Jessie Kriel has no subtlety, no vision just hussle and bustle. That might work at provincial level but won’t at test level
Moodie is 100 times better - he is the real deal and his talents would be completely wasted on the wing
Moodie at 13 will be our next big thing
We will have to wait and see, but defending like a Trojan is a must attribute for a successful 13…he did defend a bit better in the last game for the Bulls, but needs more attention in that department.
Total nonsense to equate Arendse to Kolbe. Kolbe is possibly the most gifted runner rugby has ever seen.
Nobody makes the type of tries Kolbe does again and again.
Plus he is a better defender than Arendse.
Moodie can play both centervand wing. Where is he needed most.
It's great having an abundance of talent as it means players can be rested in what is a long arduous Sean plus the injury factor.
Those suggesting Arendse is better lack Rugby acumen!!!
Moodie was good defensively in his last match, was exposed in the game before in terms of defensive reads not tackles missed
Moodie is a very special player we need him at 13 not wasted on the wing
"Moodie is a very special player we need him at 13 not wasted on the wing"
100%
So we have about 4 years with 50 test to try and get players to gain experience and build a winning squad. We need about 45 players, but only 23 can play.
So I agree that Moodie could be a fantastic 13 in place of Am, Henco is a good back up. Moodie is a very versatile player and can cover all the outside back positions and 13 which is more handier.
Saffex, have a look at Kolbe playing in Japan. Doesn't look as sharp so just worried his injuries have slowed him down a bit. Right now Arendse is a bigger threat, but Kolbe has the experience.
Hopefully he can make it through the next 4 years
My word. Some of the takes on this board.
Nobody said Kolbe doesn't make great tries or isn't an exceptional player.
But...points matter. Try ratios matter.
The logic here seems to be...
Kolbe is better than Arendse because he has a better step.
First it's the emperor's clothes stuff with DDA and now it's on a completely new level where apparently a step is worth more than points.
You can't make this stuff up. I get that you guys are attached to Kolbe, I like him too...but try being at least semi-rational in your takes once in a while.
You may as well say that Klusner was a better batter than Kallis because he hit bigger sixes.
TLDR Kolbe scores 50% less tries than Arendse but is better because he steps people.
Whahahaha!!!!
Kolbe has scored far more impressive tries than Arendse at test level
Being on the end of a pass with no defenders to beat requires zero skill
I’d say Arendse has been luckier than Kolbe at test level when it comes to strike rate that does not make him a better player
Watching a highlights video of Kolbe’s tests vs Arendse’s tests one would conclude Kolbe is the more impressive player
And no it’s not about stepping it’s about far far more
Lucky!!!
You actually can't make up this level of delusion.
Go on then, share with us with this "far far more" is that Kolbe has and Arendse doesn't.
Fucking wake up I said I can’t make a call on who it better
I said Kolbe has scored far more impressive test tries than Arendse
That does not mean Arendse can’t score impressive test tries
Of course it’s lucky if you are on the wing and get a straight run in with no defenders in your path. There is zero skill in being in position on the wing and receiving a pass with no defenders to beat
I’ll keep it simple for you - Arendse has scored more test tries, the majority have been pretty easy tries. Kolbe has scored more impressive test tries
Go check out their test highlights and come tell me Arendse looks better - bullshit
Arendse has scored 12 test tries with only one involving a bit of brilliance. The in out on Smith after the great Willemse break. The rest of his tries are straight run in’s bar the Oz one where he steps and falls under the cross defence. So let’s call it 2 from 12 that involved skill - case closed
Dave, I can't understand why you bother??? Think toilet paper and a flush that's how simple it is, if that's not enough then put a smelly foot on the ignore button.
Suck a dick, Denise, you limp twat.
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Oh... you said "far far more"...
All I wanna know is what that is.
I guess we'll never know, huh?
lol all red faced running your mouth
Haha
Oh Buttplug you are too fucking stupid to work out what I said
What part of me saying I can’t choose between the two are you struggling with you profoundly stupid idiot
Now talk us through how brilliant all of Arendse’s test tries are you exposed fool
Take your time - let me guess it was pure genius of him being out on the wing to receive those balls
Arendse certainly has one hell of a record....
Only Damian Penaud has scored more tries than Arendse, for any tier one rugby nation in that time..
So let's see...
There isn't much between the two...but one of them has scored twice as many tries.
And to cover his blushes, old Fattex has to rely on "luck" as an explanation.
Just like he has to rely on Emperor's Clothes tactics when he tries to convince us that the arch donkey is the best 12 in the game.
Like I said...delusional.
Haha
Fuck me Buttplug you really are profoundly thick
Kindly explain to me what skill is involved receiving the ball on the wing with no defender to beat in front of you? That constitutes 80% of Arendse’s test tries.
Damn right he was lucky to be on the wing receiving the ball with no defenders to beat - it’s certainly has fuck all to do with skill you dumb idiot.
Fucking wake up man, you are an embarrassment on here
Ah, so luck accounts for just enough of a devaluation of Arendse's performances to place his right on par with Kolbe...because you'd like to believe there is nothing between them.
I don't think you're smart enough to understand how that, for numerous reasons, holds zero logical water.
And I'm not sure explaining to you why that is that case would help one tiny bit...Fattex!
Always remember, it was in this thread where these words were uttered...
"...try ratio means nothing..."
Hahahahaha!
You can't make this kak up!
Buttplug telling me I’m too stupid to comprehend the utter horseshit you are coming up with is literally the joke of the hear when you consider you are too fucking stupid to work out that 90% of Arendse’s test tries involved no skill other than him being lucky enough to be out wide in his usual position receiving a ball with no defender to beat
What fucking part of this grade 1 concept do you not get you fucking monkey huh?
I don’t need to devalue Arendse, I rate him extremely highly hence this thread you blithering idiot. I rate him on par with Kolbe
I said his strike rate is of no consequence without context. Context tells us 90% of his test tries were plain and simple. Hardly the measure of his ability now is it or are you too fucking stupid to work that out.
Do me a favour and just fuck off back to your hole as you are irritatingly stupid. Responding to you is not challenging it’s fucking tiresome you bald ugly ignorant twat
I'm stupid?
I'm not the one that has to rely on arguments invoking luck and "but others say it is so" to prove a point.
And I'm not the one who said "try ratio means nothing"...which might just be the stupidest thing anyone here has ever said about a backline player.
It is hilarious watching you get angry when you feel a little pressed though.
You do realise this is prime indicator of actual stupidity, right?
"People with lower intellectual capacity may experience anger when disagreed with due to limited ability to process complex perspectives or engage in flexible thinking. This can lead to frustration and defensiveness when confronted with differing opinions."
Haha grade 1?
Fuck me you are beyond stupid like I said go fucking crawl back into your hole you ugly bald twat
I can’t be asked to respond to profound stupidity
Awe, does our resident mong have a bit of a fat lip now?
Try not to pull it so far over your head that you eat your face.
Sniff sniff
No sexy I’m just wanting you to find your feet
Doesn't help if you tell me I'm sexy...I'm not interested in fatties.
Chin up though...there's a jar for every lard.
Hook line and sinker you dumbfuck
Such easy pickings
I’m still waiting for your expert take on the skill involved in the majority of Arendse’s test tries. Do you need a link to his YouTube test tries package?
I would but I fear the voltage in your loft is barely enough to keep the lights on...
Take your time Buttplug
"...try scoring ratio means nothing."
I rest my case.
Man up Buttplug you little yellow belly
Talk us through Arendse’s test tries you little chicken shit
Grow a pair baldy
Haha it's fine Saffex.
Less tries = more wins
Right?
Man up yellow belly
You are too shit scared to face reality
You have been owned
But feel free to grow a pair and prove me wrong baldy
Here are his tries...in chronological order.
Let's start with try number 1. Does that look like luck to you?
He not only knows where the tryline is he smells it as well.
Fattex is trying to tell me that most of Arendse's try's are luck.
But if he knew rugby even nearly as well as he thinks he does, he would easily be able to recognise how great Arendse's positonal play is.
What looks like a run-in try to Fattex, is time after time sublime wing play, anticipation, support, and always putting himself in the psotion where when he gets the ball he has the most opitmal route to the line.
Only a complete noob would call that luck.
Look at the first try in that video. He basically creates the opportunity by disrupting the high ball, then he times his run perfectly and gives Am a great window to pass the ball, and then it becomes a run-in try. Fattex ignores everyhing Arendse does in the lead up to getting the ball for the score.
Like I said, a complete noob.
Lets look at score number 2 in the video...
He hangs back a bit in case the ball is spilled, and then accelerates with perfect timing to get it from Moodie.
Nothing special here, but doing what he must do in that situation and doing it perfectly.
For try number 3, Saffex for sure would not see how good this is, no matter how many tiems he looks at it...
As soon as Willie gets tackled Arendse darts in-field, but then he sees Eben getting the ball from a popped offload, anticipates Eben is gonna run straight at the widest defender, so he cuts back again to outside of that defender in ainticipation of the pass from Eben, takes a damn nice catch...and then it becomes a run-in...
There are a plethora of ways that Arendse could have fucked that up, but he didnt...he showed perfect anticipation and adaptation to the point where he made it look easy.
Luck?
Whahaha "LUCK!!!???"
Try numebr 4 is a good finish but he's just doing his job here.
Try numebr 5 is a great finish by all counts..
He has two on him, takes the hit from the first one and then adapts his position on the ground to stay in touch while avoiding the second tackler and scores...there is nothing lucky about that. It's instinctive body positoning to get the result. ZERO luck and far from a simple run-in score.
A brillaint finish, and one he'll repeat against Australia.
Try numebr 6 is an easy score from him.
This one is a run-in.
Try numebr 7 will haunt Smith, and his grandchildren, until the end of time.
Again, many ways he could have screwed up his support line, but ran it perfectly and then made Smith look invisible.
Zero luck here.
Try number 8 is a run-in for his first score against Oz.
Try number 9 is brilliant wing play by all accounts.
He has no right to rush up behind Bongi like that and to pick such a perfect line. When Bongi gets the ball Arendse isn't even in the frame yet, but he anticipates the space, senses the moment, and gets to Bongi with perfect timing to take the ball at full pace and make it look like an easy score. Were he to hang back a fraction of a second longer the opportunity would have passed...but he timed it with sublimie accuracy.
More luck?
My arse.
Try number 10...
He has ZERO right to score from there. 3 defenders on him, with no space, but he does that roll move again and turns it into a much simpler score than anybody else could have made it lookk.
Try 11...
He gets into the AB line, reacts quicker than everybody else, gets in front of Jordan because he anticipates BB's pass to him, and is already heading to the line before any of the Kiwis have even turned around.
Again, our man finds himself in the perfect position to take advantage of an opposition mistake.
You can call this luck if you want to, but that level of anticipation and insitinct is EXACTLY why he scores so many tries.
Try number 12...
Just a winger doing his job here, but does time his run onto the catch perfectly so that he can continue on at full pace once he catches the ball.
Perfectly executed.
Try numebr 13...
He makes this try on his own.
Watch the replay. While the ball is coming down, he pushes the Frenchman in the back, which disrupts the catcher and pushes him past the ball. When you watch it in slow-mo, you can again see how he reacts before anybody else does and that is what gets him to the ball before the french 15.
It looks like a lucky score but this entire sequence was thanks to Arendse's quick thinking and excellent response time.
Brilliant the dumb fuck has taken the bait
Yep lucky the action took place on his side of the field - no skill at all in scoring that try simple catch and run in no defenders to beat. My grandmother could have scored that try
Next
There you go, that is all 13 tries.
Now how many simple catches and scores did you see there?
Fattex was making it sound like Arendse just waits on the touchline for the ball, gets it and dots it down.
The noob fails to see that the vast majority of these scores requried excellent anticipation, timing and execution.
But...try raitos don't matter.
What a joke.
Whahah poor old Fatty is all red faced now because he tried to reduce a brillaint winger to a lucky baby.
Boo hoo...the lip grows fatter.
And here's the kicker...
Now go through Kolbe's tries and see how many are run-in, Fatty.
Are you brave enough?
Here, I will summarise...cos I know you're too much of a stupid coward.
Kolbe scored 3 tries for the Boks where stepping was involved.
1) Against France. He cuts back in to dot it down.
2) Against FagGirl in the WC final
3) In the Lions Series he steps inside to score one.
The rest are all run-ins(according to your own criteria)
So these 3 scores are magical enough to cause you to say that "try ratio means nothing".
But here's the difference...
Many of Arendse scores are the result perfect support play...adapting to what's happening and responding with accuracy. Creating a window for a pass that with an optimal route to the line.
As you look though Kolbe's scores, you see very little support play and anticipation that matches that of Arendse.
And since Rugby is a team game, it's no surprise that Arendse is scoring twice as fast.
Case closed, you fat, useless, tosspot.
Brilliant you are stupid enough to take the bait. Time to get your sorry ignorant arse kicked
First try damn right he is lucky the action happened on his side of the field. No skill at all involved in that try simple catch and run in unopposed. My grandmother could have scored that try
1-0 Dave
Next
My god, so any try ever is scored by luck since it's only luck that causes the ball to be in the area of the field that allows the person who scored to have gotten the ball.
Seriously, Fattex...I'm not surprised you're an ice cream salesman.
You keep calling everyone else stupid but this thread is gonna prove just how dim you are...not than anyone here doesn't know that.
K, Fat Lip?
PS just because your grandmother is more mobile than you, and likely in better shape, doesn't mean she belongs on a rugby field
Listen here you stupid prick yes it’s your luck if the ball happens to come down your end and you score from it without having to beat a defender - what else would you call it fuckwit?
We are talking about the skill level required to score these tries. There was zero required from Arendse for that first try. It’s not his fucking individual skill that happens to send the ball down the line or through some interplay by a team mate (Am in this case) to him now is it? I’m saying luck is on his side that the ball came his way with no defenders to beat.
Fuck me what part of this don’t you get? We are discussing the skill factor here nothing else - for my argument is that Kolbe has scored more skilful test tries than Arendse who happens to have scored more tries than Kolbe. The majority of which have been as simply as his first one.
So yes test try strike rate means fuck all without context. In the context of Arendse’s first try there is zero skill involved
Get this into your fucking stupid head, I rate Arendse highly hence the thread but the fact is he has scored the majority of his test tries as simple run in’s. That makes him lucky, not less gifted
Should we move onto try two now or would you like to chuck in the towel before your fucking shovel breaks?
“Saffex you need to stay off the booze as I’m sure such ignorant horse shit can’t come from a sober person unless of course you are really so fucking stupid??”
So let's recap the first score...
My version -
1) Arendse provides the disruption that causes the ABs to fumble the high ball. (If he doesn't time this nicely he creates no disruption and thus no try)
2) Arendse picks the perfect run that gives Am a window to pass him the ball with a clear route to the line.(If he doesn't put him self in the right position at exactly the right time he never gets the ball, or gets the ball from Am but is tackled, and the try is never scored)
3) Arendse takes the pass and scores.
Fattex's version -
1) My grandmother, who is both faster and fitter than myself could score that.
Fatty, you can yell 1-0 all you like but you looking pretty foolish right now.
But sure let's move on to the second score.
"So yes test try strike rate means fuck all without context"
There is plenty of context and it's only the vast amount of cellulite your eyeballs are drowning in that prevent you from seeing it.
I'll try to help you...
Anticipation, timing, positioning and execution are ALL skills, you mong.
Allow me to provides Saffex's genius rebuttal...
"Bullshit. You're too much of a stupid ignorant prick to see that my granny could disrupt the AB high ball and score."
He'll think that's a logical reply while everybody else reading it will be shaking their heads and wondering how one person could be so thick.
Oh, and to provide further context...Kolbe has scored 3 "skillful" test tries in his Bok career. Meaning the majority of his tries are run-ins
Do you dispute this, Fattex?
The Philosophy of Fattex 101
His words: "First try damn right he is lucky the action happened on his side of the field. No skill at all involved in that try simple catch and run in unopposed. My grandmother could have scored that try
1-0 Dave"
Assertion 1 : Rugby is a game comprised solely of luck.
Fattex is trying to convince us that the recovery of a high ball is always luck. What if the ABs collected the ball, formed a ruck, and from that ruck they ran 70m to score a try. Would that also be luck? Does the high ball cease to be called "lucky" once the ABs gather? Obviously not, because there could be some Springboks out of positon as a result of the kick and this may be what is exploited in the scoring of their try.
Assertion 2 : Fattex's grandmother is fitter and more mobile than he is.
We fully agree with this statement and commend the writer for his honesty. We'd, with the utmost respect, also suggest a few less p/h (pies per hour) and feel this would aid the writer on his journery toward semi-mobility.
TLDR: Every event on the rugby field is lucky and there is no skill on display.
Hey Buttplug that’s a lot of effort from you trying to contest the fact that the vast majority of Arendse’s test tries are just simple run in’s.
Give it up you ignorant prick - save yourself the embarrassment
You have been owned bitch
Fatty, you have failed to provide even a smidge of evidence to support your lucky claim.
Oh, wait, I'm dealing a mouth breather here.
Let's start at the basics...do you know what "evidence" is?
I could whip up a quick Microsoft Paint drawing if you need?
Oh Buttplug listen carefully the luck is simple to explain. If you are going to score an easy run in try unopposed then luck is on your side. It certainly is not a skill thing. Arendse is lucky that the ball has come his way playing in position and having a free run in to score.
But I’m guessing you are too fucking stupid to work this out baldy
Stop getting so hung up on luck and just stick to the issue in contest here. The vast majority of Arendse’s test tries have been simple unopposed run in’s - this is a FACT live with it you ignorant prick
Some really lucky wingers that have played this game.....
Sjoh..... lots of luck going around for these guys hey
But hold on...... if they really were that lucky, these wingers that just stand and catch the ball with an open line in front of them............we wouldn't then just have only one player ever, Penaud ... to have bettered Arendse in that same timeframe
Mmmmmm
After all the explanation I did, this is what the resident plastic rugby guru comes up with ...
"The vast majority of Arendse’s test tries have been simple unopposed run in’s"
You really are exposing yourself here Fat Lip. Big time.
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DA who the fuck are you just fuck off you worthless prick - you don’t contribute on here. Come up with some relevant rugby posts and we might pay attention.
You are like a little spoilt brat who sticks his ignorant nose into everything
Just fuck off you twat
Listen Buttplug just because you say you have explained things that does not carry any weight. Your explanations are a load of utter shit
Fact is the majority of Arendse’s test tries are simple run in’s - FACT you stupid prick
Go watch the video again you fucking idiot
Dave, if there is anyone on this forum who has lost their credibility over the years... it is you.
From a lawyer ...... to selling ice cream ....
Here's the thing Dave.....from all your repeated arrogant and incredibly abusive and rude posts to everyone that frequents this forum..... it all really does makes sense as to why and how that happened to you
Oh how the mighty have fallen ......
No wonder you are always so angry....
Listen here fuckwit what I have done in my life is a choice thing you ignorant prick
And you know what I’m a little irritated I never made that choice earlier on in my life. Instead of conforming and playing that corporate game I should have set up the ice cream business many years earlier . It was the best decision of my life.
So you keep ignorantly mouthing off about me when you know jack shit about me kind of sums up the fucking useless prick that you are.
Credibility what a fucking joke - do you honestly think I give a shit about what a nobody like you thinks about me. Do I know you, have we met, do I know what you look like, where you live, what you fuck, what you do? No and I don’t want to , you are sweet fuck all to me and just a fucking nuisance on here as you provide no rugby content
Why you bother coming on here makes no sense. DA as I said - just fuck off you are nothing to me for all kinds of reasons
That response sounds a whole lot like .... I fucked up, so now I'm constantly angry with everyone.
"And you know what I’m a little irritated I never made that choice earlier on in my life"
Of course it was a choice Saffex... I can imagine a lot of lawyers that would leave a well paying legal profession, to go and sell ice lollies... good on you then.
"Do I know you, have we met"
Dave, I would never want to meet you dude.... ever bro ... so please don't get too ahead of yourself here sunshine....
From how you have portrayed yourself on here over the years, I wouldn't want anyone I actually know, to meet you.... because your behaviour is very often just despicable...... a very hurt and angry man.....but that's you ..... so you go boy.
But hey, at least your new profession matches your personality ..... ice cold.. 
I make more money from my ice cream business than I ever did as a solicitor you ignorant twat so you keep banging that ignorant drum of yours
Spent 20 years commuting 2 hrs each way into London, got to 50 and wanted a change, had put my boys through private schools and invested in property so the foundation was set and thanks to my sisters little ice cream business in SA, the seed was planted. Best decision I ever made.
Who said I wanted to meet you you fucking idiot. There is absolutely nothing angry about me - I’m quite the opposite, you don’t get more chilled than me. It’s because I don’t give a flying fuck about you that I’m more than happy to call you a worthless cunt for that is exactly what you are
Now do me a fucking favour and post something rugby related you boring twat
Davey, for some very absurd and silly reason, you seem to think that I care about what you think.
For the record... you are providing way too much information to me here.... especially for someone who does not care about what I think.....
Spare me the sob story dude..... not sure why you feel the need to explain your life's fuck ups to me..... leave it bro.
I already said well done on your ice lollies....... you go big boy... I wish you nothing but the very best...
Oh.... and I wouldn't give a continental shit if you never ever.... ever .... responded back to any of my posts.... gospel dude
You are insignificant Saffex ........ I just tolerate you
It’s simple fuckwit I’m just countering your ignorance something I’m guessing all those unfortunate twats around have had to endure all the time
This is a rugby board now fucking give us something rugby related you useless twat
If not then do us all a favour and fuck off. Go find a knitting board to go bore the shit out of their posters.
A serious question - is a flyhalf a forward or a back?
"I make more money from my ice cream business than I ever did as a solicitor"
Hey Dave
You do realize that this statement of yours here above just confirms what a few posters have suspected about you all along ....so thanks for confirming this for us.
You were obviously a real shitty solicitor .....
Or my ice cream business after 5 years is doing really well?
Fuck you are profoundly stupid
I’m guessing the posters on here are none the wiser as your contributions are never rugby related so no one really bothers with you
You are just a fucking boring irritation, not worth fucking feeding
Notice how everybody is "stupid"...
But Fattex is the one that thinks everything that happens on a rugby field is luck.
Fatty, you are indeed an angry little twat that has no semblance of an idea when it comes to substantiating a point you are making...you responses are limited to "because I is saying so...prick...stupid...I win...la la lalala".
Like I said to you previously, you lack voltage. I bet you're the type of guy that when someone tells you they don't speak English you talk louder and when they still don't understand you walk away telling yourself how stupid they are.
Poor Fat Lip
Oh...you never seemed to address the point that Kolbe only ever scored 3 tries for the Boks that required "skill" as you define it. Meaning the other 10 were also "luck".
Care to comment? Or is the lip too fat?
"You were obviously a real shitty solicitor ..... "
Indeed. See the opposition'ssolicitor would provide precedence and Fatty's rebuttal would consist of...
Fatty "Bullshit!"
Opposing counsel "But Fatty, this is case law and there are in fact numerous rulings based on this well established precedent!?"
Fatty "Bullshit...prick...bobble squeak...doos...FFS!!!" Fatty slams the desk.
Opposing counsel "Well, it's here in black and white..."
Fatty "That's just ink on paper, and you are just lucky that all the letters landed on the page in the correct order to make it appear as though this is actual precedent...prick...doos...stupid...prick...doos...stupid...beep beep..."
Fatty sits at home one evening and thinks to himself...
"I am such a great solicitor but everybody else is just so stupid, so lucky, and such pricks. I really love ice cream. I have some of my retrenchment package left...still don't know why they retrenched me...I mean, it's like they don't know that when I "the great Fatty" say "Bullshit", then it must be bullshit as I have declared it so. Also I like aprons because they hide my ever increasing girth. It's settled. I'm gonna sell ice cream...the bullshit kind.
And so it was that the greatest solicitor in all the land ended up flogging sorbet.
DA did you watch the Gaethje fight on the weekend?
What a warrior that guy is. To bang into the final second even though he was winning the fight. I see Dana even mentioned it after.
Legend!!!
Well Buttplug you are fucking stupid so why would I not call you stupid huh?
You have to be fucking stupid if you can’t work out that the majority of Arendse’s test tries involved little skill and that he was lucky to be on the receiving end of easy tries
And no dumbfuck that does not then equate to everything happening on a rugby field amounting to luck - further evidence of your profound stupidity
Let me guess you have this voltage do you? Is that because you say you have it huh? Are you an authority on yourself huh? Fuck off
Did I say all of Kolbe’s tries involved skill huh? If Kolbe has scored 3 skilful tries, Arendse 2 at a stretch 3 - which player has the higher percentage of skilful tries (my original assertion) given Arendse has scored more test tries?
Again a perfect example of your fucking stupidity given the trap you set for yourself
Wake up baldy you are such easy pickings - says a lot for you fuckwit given how stupid I am
Man you make this too easy.
Kolbe scores 3x skilful tries in 31 caps.
Arendse scores 2x(according to you) skilful tries in 15 caps.
Can you do the math? Who is more "skilful"?
Does the ice creamer wish to retract that last statement?
Whahahaha! So dumb...so very bumb!
Since when was the measure of the percentage of skilful tries you have scored related to how many test you have played?
We are not measuring strike rate you fucking idiot
Fuck me you are seriously stupid
You mentioned that Kolbe scores more skilful tries than Arendse...not me.
And I did the most basic of basic projections, based on the most basic of basic numbers...
And it's still beyond you. lol it's STILL beyond you!!! Whahaha!
...the guy that calls everybody else stupid.
Tell me, and be honest now, how fat is that lip at this point?
Yes you dumbfuck he has scored more skilful tries than Arendse as a percentage
So fuckwit if I score 10 tries and 5 of them are skilful tries then I used my skill set to score 50% of those tries while the other 50% were simple run in’s
Now if you scored 20 tries and 5 of them are skilful tries then you used your limited skill set to score 25% of those tries while the other 75% were simple run in’s
Who in your profound wisdom has scored more skilful test tries? Me or you huh?
I’ve kept it simple for you
Hahaha
So we just gonna ignore that Arendse has done it in half the time?
I guess that metric doesn't fit well with what you'd like to believe?
Try putting in into your equation and see what happens...
I'll give you a hint...take Arendse's scores and multiple them by 2.
No you dumbfuck it’s not about strike rate
If it was then obviously Arendse has a better strike rate but strike rate provides no context.
Add context and with it comes the fact that the majority of his tries are simple run ins, hardly the measure of his skill and ability now is it?
We know Arendse is a class act thanks to his overall rugby career, it’s certainly not measured by the test tries he has scored.
So back to my assertion - Arendse has scored more tries but Kolbe has scored the better tries
Now shut the fuck up you stupid prick
Stop embarrassing yourself on here. Do you have no shame baldy?
Saffex you are the guy the denied something easily provable on Google a few days back...RE Rassie playing the French anthem to the Boks.
Even in the face of clear evidence that you were completely and utterly wrong, you never accepted it. You told everyone to "fuck off".
Do you still think you were right?
Much like this thread, where it's very obvious that you are very wrong yet again.
You are so adamantly adverse to manning and accepting that you are wrong that would rather let everyone believe you're incredibly dumb.
A rare specimen.
How am I wrong on this thread you stupid prick - because you say so huh?
Fuck off, the facts speak for themselves - you are the one in the wrong you dumb cunt - wake the fuck up.
Its tiresome dealing with such stupidity
Let's try one more time.
Player A scores 2 tries in 100 test appearances. Both are dazzling scores and he sidesteps the entire opposition team to score those two tries.
Player B scores 3 tries in 2 appearances. 1 of those tries is highly skilful and he sidesteps the entire opposition team to score that try.
Who is the more skilful player?
It's really not that difficult.
No dumbfuck number of tests is of zero significance unless we were talking strike rates
We are talking skilful tries vs simple run in’s as a percentage of the tries scored, because I have already explained that strike rate without context tells you very little, evidenced by Arendse himself. We are talking about the skill involved in scoring a try, not how many tries you have scored or how many test you have played. We are measuring each and every try scored and evaluating the skill required to score them - nothing else. You with me yet? Of course not.
So fuckwit if I score 10 tries and 5 of them are skilful tries then I used my skill set to score 50% of those tries while the other 50% were simple run in’s
Now if you scored 20 tries and 5 of them are skilful tries then you used your limited skill set to score 25% of those tries while the other 75% were simple run in’s
You are soooooo fucking thick
My word man...
Fatty, what his clear from this thread is that you are willing to attempt to create an entirely new set of nonsensical sports statistics in order to escape simply admitting that you are wrong.
I can assure you, nobody reading this agrees with you.
It's very obvious that you have to take appearances into account. You can understand why...because your very lacking personality won't allow you too.
Personally I find it hilarious.
In fact, if you were a tad smarter you'd understand that on a long enough time timeline even the most skill deprived person will do something that appears to be skilful. But this doesn't mean they are skilful. It simply means that had many goes at something and 1 attempt resulted in some extraordinary.
I fully realise that this is the purest of pearls before the thickest of pigs.
I give up you are too fucking stupid
You bore the fuck out of me
Get this into your fucking ignorant head just because you ignorantly say no one reading my takes will agree with me, carries about as much weight as my morning dump
Your credibility is on par with that dump
Now do us all a favour and go bury that ugly bald head of yours in the sand that way you might start making sense
You are as thick as pigshit
Haha maximum Fat Lip is in the house.
The penny finally dropped, didn't it?
And here we are, old Fattex using the excuse of being uninterested because he just realised what a massive tool he made of himself.
Try being less predictable, then you won't be so effortlessly steamrolled.
Penny dropped? Are you seriously this stupid ugly mug? Seriously?
You have been completely owned
Kolbe has scored more skilful tries than Arendse - that is a fact
Dave, I'm not buying into the argument but our history goes back many moons so on that basis I warn you've wasted all of your time arguing with the board's resident numero uno attention seeker.
He accuses you of the very things he is guilty of, he is not up for a debate and is never wrong. I know because I had the same experience in the cricket section when he put up a list of 5 players who according to him and I quote 'They don't come more world class than that' If I remember correctly all of them were white ball players, none of them played test cricket but the one player who stood out as a dud was Reeza Hendricks. Cricket as you know is a stats game and I published all of Hendrick's stats proving that he wasn't World Class. And it got worse.....Hendricks a specialist white ball player has never and will never play in the showpiece of white ball cricket which is the IPL. None of the stats and facts that I published meant a damn thing, our boy stuck with the bone between his yellow dagga coated teeth and wouldn't let go and I daresay that today still he'd bang away about Reeza Hendricks being a world class act. Isn't that a laugh.
As I've said, when you take him on in an argument know that you're wasting your time in that he's never wrong hence the reason no matter what he says about me I'm totally indifferent and indifference is worse than ignore.
One more thing...he's all animated about the non white/coloured backline players........what the fool doesn't realise is that those type of players have evolved since the 1960's and the reason he doesn't know about them is because non white rugby was buried by the white press. And the only way they could've been 'discovered' was for them to go overseas which they couldn't afford to do financially. As an example in cricket there was D'Oliviera and in soccer Doug Carelse but there were several others who cut the mustard but never got the opportunity.
Next he's going to ad nauseum remind us with a great deal of fanfare that he's migrating to Canada. Well, it's been over 2 years when in typical fanfare he made that announcement. In the meantime our crypto king is still stuck in Kraaifontein.
Give it a miss Dave, he's not worth it, you are wasting your time.
Hi Full-o-Dentsie
Fatty's lip is so fat at this point that he's about to tip over.
You arrived just in time.
Be a good girl and garb some of that lip will you?
"Kolbe has scored more skilful tries than Arendse - that is a fact."
I is Fatty and I are declared it such.
So empty... so noisy...so enraged!!!
Tell you what, Fatty...why not call a friend with that Penny?
"Or my ice cream business after 5 years is doing really well?
I see how you very carefully worded that statement Dave.
After 5 years, doing well ..... very well done....I am very happy for you, and your family.
However, you do realize that any sensible and intelligent person would not leave a well paying highly successful career as a solicitor, to start any business that might only on start doing well after 5 years.
Pull the other one dude
But again, well done
DA did you watch the Gaethje fight on the weekend?
Fight of the year Plum.... possibly of the decade.
Max calling Justin to the middle and ending it via knockout with only 1 second left in the fight..... just brutal
Yeah, I watched all the fights from the prelims..... what a card....
Now it's DDP in August.... can't wait
I like that Gaethje was up for it though.
Being that wild at the end and giving Max a shot when he didn't need to at all...it feels like both guys won the fight to me. Like if you took a fighter and told him he could choose what he wants from the fight...legendary level reputation or the win? Depending where one is at in your career...I think some guys wouldn't automatically choose the win. Rep means something.
Looking frorward to the Dricus fight. A bit worried that he's losing the underdog status he thrived on. But I think the Adesanya is gonna be more hype than anything else. Dricus will take him out. Adesanya is far too full of himself at this point to actually change what he does in the ring. They'll talk strategy but once in the ring Izzy is just gonna hang behind his jabs and leg kicks like always. Dricus, on the other hand will execute a gameplan - likely based on tackling Adesanya into the cage. Adesanya has to keep the fight standing or he's screwed, so yeah, I think he's screwed.
Would be nice if Dricus wins since it'll mean our boy ran through easily the best Kiwi and Ozzie fighters to have been in the UFC.
Loma is also fighting Kambosos soon. I feel sorry for Kambosos. Loma is used ot fighting much bigger guys and bossing them, so Kambosos has his work but out for him, being so similar in size to Loma.
And they say this wasn't robbery...
Agreed Plum...... legendary status and personal Legacy is just so much more for these guys at this stage of their careers ...
Loma burst into tears in the dressing room after this fight....
What a joke this was
Haney came nowhere close to winning this
There is a unofficial video going around of Geovonta Davis bossing Haney around in sparring, which Haney tried to deny..... but once you see the video, it was clear as mud that Davis was playing with Haney.
Haney is now fighting Garcia this weekend, who recently lost to Davis, and there is seriously very bad blood here.....so it should be a very interesting fight.
"Saffex you are the guy the denied something easily provable on Google a few days back...RE Rassie playing the French anthem to the Boks.
Even in the face of clear evidence that you were completely and utterly wrong, you never accepted it. You told everyone to "fuck off"."
Yep, in true Dave fashion, he behaves like a complete and utter prick.... including to a lady friend of his of many years, which he then tried to downplay later on when he was questioned about it by a fellow poster ... this common arrogant behaviour directed to quite a few posters did not go unnoticed by a few on here.
It's just a regular and consistent dick move..... but what does one genuinely and honestly expect when it comes to Saffex ...
Eish Davey .....you cannot even man up when you get it so blatantly and horribly wrong in front of everyone, on some random internet forum...with people you don't even really know....... fuck it man.... you are living up to what they say about lawyers....
Fattex is just a rude twat. He convinces himself that his crass nonsense is quirky. But it's actually a crutch. The more he's cornered the more vulgar he gets. Quirky -> Lame.
Who do you think is the pound for pound right now?
For me, probably Bud Crawforwd. I still can't believe he monstered Spence the way he did. And Spence was the top contender by some distance.
"Fattex is just a rude twat"
Plum, this is the first time I have seen you being so polite to Dave....
Must have taken some restraint
"Who do you think is the pound for pound right now?"
Crawford, no doubt... it has to be
Although at the moment, I do also very highly rate Davis .... he has just decimated these really great fighters, with not just brute strength, but excellent boxing skills.
When I watched what Crawford did to Spence though, I was just amazed..... because as much as I have always been a Crawford fan, I fully expected Spence to come out on top or possibly lose a very very close fight... but it was nothing at all like that... against Crawford, Spence looked like an amateur.
Davis is a very very talented fighter, and what he did to Garcia and Santa Cruz put that all fully on display
DA you dumbfuck let me spell it out for you. After 20 years of earning a good salary and investing well, putting my kids through private schools as the govt schools are an insult here, I was in a position where I found myself financially secure enough to make a change.
Twenty years of 4hr commutes a day, playing the corporate game it was time for a change of pace. My sister was visiting from SA, we had a braai, she made rum & raisin ice cream and the rest is history they say. It was a light bulb moment - I handed in my notice a week later and started the business, which initially started off as a side project, but of a hobby but boy oh boy when the product speaks for itself there was no stopping us.
Yes dumbfuck most businesses take a few years to hit their straps and to be fair I was not really interested in going big, big came to me. Initially we only traded at festivals on the weekends in a converted horse box - life was so chilled, with plenty of free time.
That all changed post COVID, we now only supply restaurants and deli’s
Suck on that you ignorant twat. Making money has never been a problem in my life - it’s fucking easy
Denny there is nothing worse than a dumbfuck and boy oh boy how fucking stupid is Buttplug
I get a kick out of embarrassing him on here. I mean the dumbfuck is arguing against video footage of Arendse and Kolbe’s test tries
A simple viewing will tell you which player has scored to more impressive test tries
But in Buttplug little world - video evidence lies
Sheeesh Dave
Simple mind, simple viewing, huh Fattex?
I've loved watching you contort yourself in order to try and justify your initial error.
I didn't know a fat man could bend so far.
DA you dumbfuck that took all of one minute to put you right - don’t kid yourself I don’t give a flying fuck but felt a simple explanation might ease your pain
Get over yourself - if you fell and broke your neck tomorrow it would not register with me at all as I don’t know you and nor do I care
It’s the reality of this place but if you are going to come across as fucking stupid and draw incorrect conclusions about reality it’s very easy to put you right but my guess is you are too fucking stupid to grasp my correction
Let me guess - stupid Dave gave up a high paying job to make ice cream hey ??
Stick with your version sunshine - I’m sure it makes you happier
Buttplug how old are you that’s a serious question as your attempt at humour is fucking weak and pathetic
What error would that be baldy you lying twat
"but felt a simple very detailed explanation might ease your pain just convince myself and others that I am not a failure" ... Fixed.
"if you fell and broke your neck tomorrow it would not register with me at all as I don’t know you and nor do I care"
You speak like this, with your supposed level of education and previous legal profession ...LMAO .... I would expect this kind of comeback from some 5 year old kid that didn't like your Bubblegum ice lollie.
"you are too fucking stupid to grasp my correction observant to pick up my lies and exaggerations ... Fixed"
"Let me guess - stupid Dave gave up a high paying job to make ice cream hey ??"
Actually no .... it's just stupid Dave 
Arrogant, Stupid and Narcissistic .....how efficient you are Saffex.... if you ran like your mouth did, you would be in great shape
DA just as I suspected you are too fucking stupid to grasp a simple explanation
Now go do us a favour and go break that neck or better still stick with us and for once entertain us with a rugby related post you sad fuck
Nothing funny about a contorted fat man.
Stuff of nightmares actually.
So who’s the fat man?
Nobody. But you're the fattest man!
I still see no comment on the fact that Kolbe scored but 3 skilful tries in 31 outings. Making it 1 "skilful" in 10.33 matches.
Arendse scored 2 in 15...making it a skilful try every 7.5 games.
I thought you said Kolbe scores more skilful tries than Arendse.
You still glossing over it and pretending the penny didn't drop and that your lip isn't fatter than ever?
How did you work out I am the fattest you lying prick? Come on
Skill is not measured by the number of games you have played you fucking idiot
A skilful try is measured in the moment
What the fuck has number of tests got to do with that?
You are fucking beyond stupid baldy
My word, you still don't get it.
If one player scores "skilful" tries at a higher frequency than the next player, then that player is more skilful because his "skill" results in points more often.
It's really not that difficult.
My word, you still don't get it.
If one player scores "skilful" tries at a higher frequency than the next player, then that player is more skilful because his "skill" results in points more often.
It's really not that difficult.
Bullshit you idiot we are measuring reality not possibilities.
The very fact that Arendse has scored so many non skilful tries is the very reason possibilities is not the measure
Wake the fuck up
Kolbe has scored 3 skilful tries Arendse 1 at best
Both are more than capable of scoring both skilful and easy run in’s - reality dictates that Kolbe has scored more of the skilful variety while Arendse more of the lucky run in’s
I fully fucking get it you are too fucking stupid to - you live in a fucking dream world defined by possibilities.
Oh, I thought you said Arendse has scored 2 by your count? Suddenly it's 2 at best.
The try against Oz, beating 3 defenders in a tight space, no skill?
The try where he left Smith for dead, no skill?
The try against Oz where came up with perfect timing to Bongi's left, no skill?
I count 3 very skilful finishes there.
At least two of them on par with Kolbe's skilful scores.
But Arendse has done it in half the time.
Let's simplify - do you consider "skill" as it relates to a winger to be strictly stepping. Or do you admit that there are other elements which are skilful...like timing and positioning?
An easy question, but I know you'll dodge it.
Oh, I thought you said Arendse has scored 2 by your count? Suddenly it's 2 at best.
The try against Oz, beating 3 defenders in a tight space, no skill?
The try where he left Smith for dead, no skill?
The try against Oz where came up with perfect timing to Bongi's left, no skill?
I count 3 very skilful finishes there.
At least two of them on par with Kolbe's skilful scores.
But Arendse has done it in half the time.
Let's simplify - do you consider "skill" as it relates to a winger to be strictly stepping. Or do you admit that there are other elements which are skilful...like timing and positioning?
An easy question, but I know you'll dodge it.
I originally said definitely one - the England one and possibly one more the Oz one - that’s it - although the Oz one was a strange one - he seemed to fall under the cross defenders. A fluke but it worked
I’d give him one and a half through skill that’s it
Not a fluke(the Oz try)...look he did exactly the same thing previously. Read my notes on the tries above.
Plum I think we have done this to death let’s agree to disagree and you are not bald and ugly :)
Dave before you sign off hugging our resident attention seeker Buttplug, ask him if he still thinks Reeza Hendricks is world class. Let's not bother with the other 4 dopes he listed who may I say have vanished into...ummm..ermmm..... obscurity.
You didn't answer the very basic question I asked.
As far as a winger is concerned, what is considered skill?
As far as I can tell, stepping is all that is on your list.
"DA just as I suspected you are too fucking stupid to grasp a simple explanation"
If you call a very desperate attempt to try and prove your adult achievements to someone that you "apparently" have no interest in, simple.... yeah.....ok..... we all know who the sad fuck is here Dave.
Buttplug just fuck off
DA given your wisdom I’ve reassessed and sold the business and am heading back to the city on a train
Thanks bud
"Thanks bud"
Hey Dave
After all that's been said and done between us... let's at least come to one solid conclusion here.
I will never be calling you bud.
Between the both of us, I am quite sure that whatever you decide you might want to reply with here.... can wait until you are a bit smarter.
Whahaha old Fatty is so cornered at this point he doesn't dare even tell us what he considers "skill" to be as far as a winger is concerned.
He built his house on sidestepping. No he can't admit that positioning and inning are considered skill.
The solicitor thing himself up in all manner of knots.
And that lip just gets fatter and fatter. Lolzzzzz
DA ‘bud’ is a term you fucking idiot
It’s does not mean we are mates
Wake the fuck up you stupid prick
Buttplug just out of interest how did you come to the conclusion that I’m concerned? Concerned about what exactly huh?
You are fucking delusional baldy
Baldy where did I say sidestepping was the sole measure of skill you lying twat?
Well, this is a rugby forum. Someone is asking you straightforward rugby question, related directly to a debate which has gone on for...well look at how long this thread is...and you simply refuse to state was is obvious.
What other conclusion should one draw?
Allow me to pre-empt:
Shut up you stupid prick I don't care what you think blah blah blah.
Allow me to pre-empt:
Shut up you stupid prick I don't care what you think blah blah blah.
Let's conclude this thread by stating that Fattex does not believe positioning and timing to be a skill required by a winger, and when a winger does score a try due to excellent timing and positioning then it is ALWAYS luck.
Do you wish to amend the statement, Fatty?
Buttplug I have no idea what skill involves when it comes to rugby
Except of course the mighty side step
I also know that running in a try unopposed just not involve skill at all.
I do know that one of our brilliant wings has scored the majority of his tries unopposed
Simple little run in’s that my grandmother could have executed
Does this help - I guess not huh ?
Well... since Saffex has already been conclusively proven to be incredibly ill informed and also extremely stupid... twice in the last few days alone.... I guess that settles it then, on just how much he does make shit up on this forum, to suit his own agenda....
A child like twat who correctly applauds another poster for admitting and apologizing that he got something wrong previously, but cannot be man enough to do this himself.
Saffex is extremely fortunate to have his two eyes because those are the only balls he has in his body.
Oh DA what the fuck do I need to apologise for you dumb prick
Ill informed? Is that because you say so - the idiot who is yet to provide a rugby related post?
Fuck me bud until you actually contribute on here may I suggest you shut the fuck up
Your childish little digs are fucking boring - enlighten me with some rugby knowledge man - come on
Serious question, what the fuck is the point of you being on this board? Seriously
Shame man .....
Just shame
Is that your rugby related post?
Is that your rugby related post?
Nope.... just a very quick summary of your life's work
Just as I thought - you have zero to offer
Why don’t you just fuck off - you won’t be missed
Would you be missed, Fattex?
Stop continually trying to prove yourself to everyone Dave....please just stop it.
You carry on with your ice cream business .... and leave the legal work for people who can actually cope with that level of intelligence.
I will add however... that from what I have seen on here from you over all the years, I have absolutely zero doubt at all in my mind, that you moving careers from being a solicitor to selling ice cream.... was not a voluntary option.
You try making up for and masking these failures in life by continually treating people the way you do.... by constantly using abusive and vulgar language... hence why I still say..... shame man .....just shame.
You do you dude....
Nice rugby post there DA fucking insightful stuff
You must be pretty chuffed with that
Take 6 months off and come back with your second rendition
Close the door on your way out and do us a favour take Buttplug with you
Pretty please - ill give you each an ice cream on your way out
Dave, if your ice cream is anything remotely close to what your legal career was, I will give it a hard pass ..
Oh DA do you spend your life making things up?
Why not make up a rugby related post - something is better than nothing
"Oh DA do you spend your life making things up?"
Dave, we have just been discussing how you "voluntarily" changed your career from being a solicitor to selling ice cream..... so I have already had a fair share of people making things up.
Ah so you have that on authority do you?
Wow you are an impressive individual
Given this fact why are you incapable of posting a rugby related post on a fucking rugby message board huh?
What is the point of your existence on here? What do you get out of it?
Surely you can just continue to be an annoyance with those sad fucks around you without having to pollute a rugby board for your kicks
I’m struggling to understand your purpose on here. Enlighten me please as you know I’m stupid
"I’m struggling to understand"
This seems to be a common problem for you .... get help Dave, or maybe change your career again.
"Enlighten me please as you know I’m stupid"
Self reflection is a step in the right direction, good on you Dave
"Wow you are an impressive individual"
Thanks dude
I’m not your dude :)
Cool bro
I thought it was bru?
Dave is the Self appointed Karen of Ruckers Forum…he is like one of those Karen’s at a MacDonald,s screaming about there missing cheese sauce…. “Give me my Fucking Cheese sauce ….I know my rights now” :) :)
Mpower what the fuck is that - you on the white powder?
I think Saffex is more of 1996 MSN Darren.
"Bru, you don't know how tuff, and I smart I am, you %*€£¥? I'm like, the seriously dangerous bru. Why don't you just take my word for it when I say fings...like don't you know who you're dealing with."
And then when you prove him wrong it's not that he was actually wrong, he was just a little mixed up. A simple mistake..."Don't you know what a simple mistake is you stupid %#&@&$&$?"
I mean, he actually thinks it's normal to basically call almost everyone he interacts with stupid, ignorant, etc. and convinces himself that it's normal behaviour...despite him being the only one that does it.
Buttplug have you lost your tampax?
Yes, your girlfriend asked if she could hang on to it for me.
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He is something else - what a player