Thanks Dave
I said intitially that Du Toit would be captain in this test - as per normal my comments were 100% correct.
I think that Esterhuizen is in the squad to give him another chance on test level - but I think his selection would kill the backline.
By the way Gooen had a brilliant game against Leinster and I think he is also available as a backup flyhalf when needed by the Springboks.
Bullshit man Esterhuizen is awesome why you don’t rate him is beyond comprehension
It sounds as ignorant as all the fools on here not rating de Allende
Esterhuizen is by far the best 12 playing rugby in the NH - he literally makes the team of the week most weeks
Ja Maaik...you predicted his captaincy for this match...I'm surprised he picked a overseas player as a once off captain...but I'm really glad for PSDT.
Happy for Hendrikse, Sacha, Fassi , Edwill and Ben….let’s hope Fassi worked on his defence. He surely is a dangerous runner with ball in hand…AE is obviously a strong contender for the 12 spot and younger than DDA…besides that the man is a better off loader….Mchunu is not a real power house scrummager and not sure about him….why Ruben van heerden is not there but Moerat, is stupid….the man out performs Moerat with his left pinkie….the Loose trio will be interesting to watch….Pieter will make a good captain and he still has a lot of play in him left compared to Kollisi….the Boks should win this one ….Go Bokke !!
Clearly Erasmus really rates Mostert. Hendrikse at 10 is an interesting call, I hope he plays a bit with Williams. And Esterhozen is a massive step up on Dud.
I agree Moz…Franco deserves his starting and also all the other times to….off course we are going to hear that it’s because of injuries, but we know better….it’s because Mostert is a beast that just carries on and on….good line out option, defence and general play is rock solid ….and as tough as nails, a dependable warrior!!
Esterhuizen is no step up to de Allende what utter bullshit
There are only 3 locks in the squad so we have to endure powder puff until the Irish series when hopefully Rassie wakes up to RG starting instead of fucking useless Mostert
He is the only real let down in the side against Wales
Fuck me Ruben v Heerden is twice the player Mostert is
Dave I burst out laughing reading your idea of Esterhozen outside Dud. Put the best offloading center outside a center who doesn’t offload…brilliant!
Obviously the genius totally disagrees with you on Mostert.
Yes Rassie’s one big failing is playing the physically inept Mostert for as long as he has. The guy is useless where it counts
He has also completely missed the boat with the du Preez twins and Jason Jenkins but I’m guessing we can’t expect our genius coach to be perfect
I’d rather see Esterhuizen at 13 than Kriel in a one off test
Ultimately we need to be moving on from de Allende, Kriel, Esterhuizen and Am - thankfully we have the likes of Moodie, Willemse, David Kriel, Hooker, Jordan Hendrikse, Henco v Wyk, Rickus Pretorious, Jorenzo Julius and Bruce Sherwood as the next generation.
Blob your contribution is about as insightful as my morning dump
Grow up, stop behaving like a stink drolletjie.
In Erastopia all a 13 needs to do is rush up quickly on the opposing 13….clearly not Esterhozen’s long suit. And as we saw with Mo’unga embarrassing Dud, we can’t rely on Dud’s instincts at 13.
It’s against Wales Moz - have you seen the centres they have selected?
Blob fuck off you waste of space go post your pathetic little pictures on a pre school site
Look I know that the Bulls players are unavailable for selection right now, but the worrying part is that Rassie has not picked a perfect 13 like David Kriel in any of his alignment camps?? Henco is unluckily out for 5 months….so it looks set that Rassie will continue with the older players….for how long is the question?? Van Heerden is far better than Moerat and Lood put together…we all know why Mostert is there….Some of Rassie,s choices are yet again unexplainable and doesn’t make any sense??
Moerat is far better than Mostert
Lood with his arms tied behind his back is better than fucking useless Mostert
It’s an absolute travesty that David Kriel has not been to an alignment camp when a player like Hooker has.
Hooker looks good but has not come close to making the impression Kriel has this year
Chalk and cheese
Really good team, as per usual. I have some questions on certain players but glad to see that he didn't pick 14 rookies like he did in the past.
Marx is a risk given that this is his first game in 9 months and wonder whether they are rushing him. I would let him join the end of year tour and allow him more time to recover. Probably don't rate Dwebe.
Hendrikse hardly played at 10 for the lions and will now sit behind Masuka at the sharks, but he showed some good form the the lions and versatility. Apparently he is a better kicker than Libbok.
Mpimpi is questionable and probably don't need him at all but with all our front line wingers injured we probably need the experience
Given Kolbe, Arendse and Moodie are out it made sense to play Mapimpi who has been in good enough form for the Sharks
Add that to the fact that Zas is injured and Green and Tambwe are not available
I really like the look of Hendrikse as a player - has muscled up nicely and showed some power playing 12 for the Lions - plenty of skill there as well but it’s a strange call he has been selected ahead of Libbok, Masuku and Sacha
Great to see Ben Jason Dixon getting capped he is a great prospect at 7 in the PSDT mould
Edwill vd Merwe is another Kolbe and Arendse - also muscled up to a respectable size that punches way above his weight.
Also great that the very gifted Sacha will be capped given he has an English father and Eddie had expressed interest in him not long before departing
I really feel for Gelant, Masuku, Nohamba and Ruben v Heerden who all deserved a spot in the 23
Gelant at 15 with Fassi on the wing. Williams starting with Nohamba on the bench. Ruben v Heerden ahead of useless Mostert
Travelling reserves are Libbok, Horn, Hooker, Fouche, Andre Hugo Venter, RG Snyman and Buthelezi
No Ruben instead of Moerat or Lood….these 2 players do not come close to Mostert as they are mostly injured …..honestly what is the use of so called good locks but they are mostly injured?? Besides being injury prone, there is absolutely no concrete video evidence showing how good they are….If you like it or not, Mostert will out perform these 2 until he is 40!!!
Mostert is fucking useless so any lock is better than that physical liability
Lood is twice the player. Moerat is physical so better as are Ruben v Heerden, Ruan Vermaak, Andre Smith, Jason Jenkins, Ruben Schoeman, JD Schickerling, Walt Steenkamp, Corne Rahl, Emile v Heerden, JF v Heerden, Reinhardt Ludwig and Conor Evans
All real locks - little 110kg Mostert is an insult
Honestly Dave, everything I mean everything you say about Mostert, is contrary to what is actually happening on the Rugby field….guys like Mostert is the Foundation for the Boks success in there WC glories…and Tassels sees it the same way….Facts that is undeniable if you look at games without bias. And bye the way, he is 112kg of pure Warrior!
I see the Welsh team in it’s entirety has one less Cap than Etzebeth…….
Dave did you watch Snyman against Glasgow?
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Lood with his arms tied behind his back is better than fucking useless Mostert
You can't tie Lood's arms behind his back, his shoulders will pop out.
No Moz I did not see the game I did record it
Mpower everything I say about Mostert is true - he is physically inept - all you ignorant fools see is heart and energy and loads of process tackles being made - hardly the measure of a Bok lock now is it.
I want to see our Bok locks add grunt to the scrums, mauls, rucks, maul defences, I want to see them take contact with ball in hand pushing defenders back, I want to see big dominant tackles and big clean outs
Mostert is not capable of doing any of that because he lacks physicality if you can’t see that you are either blind or rugby ignorant
Dave
What about ball protection and recovery by he players - where Mostert is not a factor at all. He has never turned over ball possssion by the Springboks in such cases because even backline players pushed him off the ball and that cause ball loses by the Springboks.
That deficiency to my mind is the worst component of Mostert during test games and show up his deficiency as a Tight five player especially.
As to Esterhuizen I think maybe I am prejudiced against him - but it goes abck to 2014 when he caused the loss off the Under 20 final by knocking on a ball with an open tryline ahead of him. That caused he SA under 20 to lose the final with a 1 point difference. I also saw him playing for the Sharks subsequently and he certainly was not a house on fire. I have not seen much of Esterhuizen in subsequent yars and where he played in the Wales test in 2018 he made meters in ball carries - but at the end of each carry he lost possession of the ball and the Springboks were put on the back foot.
However, I accept that playing in the UK in matchs I neve watched he may be better than I think he really is and accept your opinion on him at present.
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So you have been telling us Esterhozen is useless….but you haven’t watched him play one club game up north. As for the nonsense about Mostert being useless in the rucks. He is the first player to the ball time and time again. And show me a lock that powers through the rucks. Dud Toit certainly doesn’t, and as a flank never, ever, turns over a ball
PSDT makes a metre or so in contact like any real forward does, something useless Mostert is incapable of doing as he is so scrawny
Blindsides don’t turnover ball for fuck sake Moz - geez it’s embarrassing seeing you banging on about a 2m tall player not effecting turnovers
Name a 2m tall player that regularly effects turnovers huh?
Well on one of the Videos that Blob was kind enough to post, thanks Blob, you see a Cameron Hanekom 1.93m effecting great turn overs….so although it’s more difficult for a taller player, it is possible. And the loose trio 6,7 and 8 should all be able to effect turnovers, if needed from them.
Shit from Mozart - Mostert may be first at breakdowns and that is where he is pushed out of rucks by backline players. When Mostert make tackles opponents go forward - when good forward tight 5 members defend the opposing player carrying the ball does not go forward - in the case of Mostert they do - making it easier to recover balls from them.
There is a huge difference between Du Toit and Mostert - Du Toit is a key player with ball sense and have contributed to SA winning the 2019 and 2023 WC's. In 2019 he was Player of he Year and in 2023 the final match Player of the Match. So show me the difference - Mostert at best is a fringe player for the Springboks and the best he can do is to be somwtimes on the bench.
By the way I do not watch club matches in the NH regularly unless it involves SA teams. There is one thing I believe in and that is there are differences between playing in club matches and in tests. There are many examples where players do well on club level an fail on test level.
In the case of his test the Welsh team is not the strongest one around - so selection of Mostert is not based on performances to be expected from him when tests are played against top international teams. Fact is I think Mostert will by the end of this season be out of contention for test team selection.
Ok pls show us any kind of video evidence of the utter BS you guys are sprouting about Mostert….pushed back by Backline players out of a Ruck or that opponents go forward when he tackles them??
Players going forward in tackles is the most normal thing in rugby.
Mpower stop being a stupid prick - big difference between Hanekom and PSDT size wise you idiot
Cameron Hanekom 110 kg, 1,93m and Pieter is 115kg, 2 m That is not such a big difference…so your argument is dumb as you and your groupies are not laying actual facts down….all you have is insults which is not evidence but showing that you throwing your toys out the cot because you have been proven wrong time and time again….also still waiting on actual video evidence that proves how useless Mostert is?? Yet again you embarrassing yourself ….only a dumb, narcissistic fool will always think he is right and the rest is wrong….grow the fuck up you Baby : )
Listen here you fucking stupid ignorant prick huge difference in build when it comes to PSDT and Hanekom you idiot
115lg my arse - try 120kg and 2m
Now try fucking wake up and compare like for like
Answer this question fuckwit - do you see Eben, Lood, Mostert, Kleyn or RG effecting turnovers huh? Do you?
Do me a favour don’t comment on rugby matters as you are fucking clueless
Comparing Hanekom to PSDT - what a joke 6’6 vs 6’3
I see that John Plumtree,s son, Taine Plumtree is in the Welsh side for the clash against the Boks ….I never knew his son plays test rugby? It will be a interesting clash with the amount of youngsters in that team…
Boring Dave Boring, yawn….go check your facts about pieter again, you clearly can’t read and I didn’t say locks are there for turnovers, the loose Trio are supposed to be all capable of effecting turnovers….fact ….and you the one that should go find a group to help you cope with being a Narcissist…..this is a forum where we debate , if you can’t debate and are there just to spout insults, then that’s your problem….seek help for yourself as you clearly struggling with something.
"...the loose Trio are supposed to be all capable of effecting turnovers….fact.."
As should all rugga players...are you saying PSDT don't?
Pieter has effected turnovers, but not something he does regularly…..his other strong suits like his defence, outweighs that he does not effect more turnovers.
Mpower you dumbfuck - PSDT is a lock turned into a 7 everyone knows that you ignorant prick
He is 2m tall and 120kg +
Just because he moved to 7 does not mean he shrunk in height and suddenly became better equipped to get into position to effect turnovers
Fuck some of you rugby followers are profoundly ignorant
Name a 2m rugby player that effects turnovers for the Boks
Answer that or shut the fuck up idiot
Yawn….time to change the nappy:)
About Born: 20 August 1992 (age 31 years), Cape Town Spouse: Willemien Du Toit Parents: Pieter du Toit, Annalene du Toit Height: 2 m Siblings: Johan du Toit Weight: 115 kg
Liar !!
If Dud Toit is chosen to play flank, he has to fulfill the duties of a flank, even if we all know he is really a failed lock. One of those duties is contesting the ball in the ground.
Moz don’t lie about him being a failed lock
A blindside does not contest for the ball on the ground unless they happen to be an openside or 8 utilised at 7
Moz here is a little lesson for you - no 2m tall players are expected to get into a position to effect a turnover as they are too tall so Rassie is not stupid enough to instruct PSDT to start trying to effect turnovers
Tall players would be completely compromised trying to get into a low enough position to effect a turnover
Physics Moz - I thought you were all about the science - come on man get with it
Mpower you ignorant prick - you only need to look at PSDT to know he weighs more than 115kg you idiot
Stormers flank Pieter-Steph du Toit has emerged as the leading South African tackler in this year’s Vodacom Super Rugby tournament to date.
Ahead of one of the most highly anticipated Super Rugby derbies this season, Du Toit may have already given his team the psychological edge over the Vodacom Bulls on the eve of Saturday’s clash at Newlands.
Du Toit clearly has a heart as big as his two-metre and 120kg frame. The South African Rugby Player of the Year is currently the leading South African tackler in this year’s Super Rugby tournament, with 97 tackles thus far.
Personal Details
Full name Pieter Stephanus du Toit
Nickname Pieter-Steph
Date of birth 20 August 1992
Place of birth Cape Town, South Africa
Height 2.01 m (6 ft 7 in)
Weight 120 kg (265 lb; 18 st 13 lb)
Nationality South African
Current Net Worth $3-5 Million
Relationship Status Married
Wife Willemien du Toit
Instagram Profile @pieterstephdutoit
I could go on dumbfuck
Ja just go on ….google search shows him at 115kg….and what are you trying to prove putting his nett worth on here?? Does his money make him a better Rugby player?? Desperately trying to be right, shame man get a grip and seek that help you need it….tell me miss searle, are you really getting angry there behind your keyboard??
Google also tells us Etzebeth is 117kg you stupid fuck
Wake the fuck up - does PSDT look like he is 115kg making him lighter than Esterhuizen or Marx - are you really this stupid? Asking for a friend
Go get a brain transplant or something
Fuck me
Anger ...........probably resulted in his disbarment for vociferously castigating the judge who found his client guilty on all charges.
Okay Dave so if somebody can tell me what Dud Toit does with excellence, apart from process tackling, perhaps I’d understand. Here are my grades:
Process tackling A
Open field tackling B minus
Ball carrying B minus
Offloading D
Ruck driving B
Contesting ball on the ground D
Back of lineout jumping B.
Average grade as a flank B minus at best. The only reason it works to some extent is our game plan where we kick to the opposition….and defend. That’s what he did in the two WC finals, important contributions, but not the contributions of a great blindside flank.
Truth is, he isn’t a flank. Eluckmiss has carved out a unique role for him which is more akin to ‘rover’ in American football.
And Dave I agree that a 6’7” player is not ideal to perform the role of a blindside flank….so why play him there, he could do his process tackling from the lock position. Except of course, he was never first choice in that role.
Your behaviour speaks volumes on here …about your mental state or illness is the more correct description….you must be a sick twisted fuck, satisfying your small brain with verbally abusing posters on here….then posters wonder why there is only a small handful actually taking the chance in posting there opinions on here….it’s because of you and your dumb moron like / retard communication with others….actually in my opinion,you should fucking be banned until you learn some Etikett and common Decency!
"Average grade as a flank B minus at best. The only reason it works to some extent is our game plan where we kick to the opposition….and defend. "
Absolutely one sided bias comment...he got player of the year, player of the RWC tournament and MOTM in a RWC final, playing in that position....average players don't achieve that...and hype don't account for it either...it's been more than 6 years now.
Defence is 50% of rugby, regardless of the game plan.
Mozart invented te concept of "process" tackling and use it againt players he hates and then overlook the fact that playes he support are even worse "process" tacklers.
If cver there were "process tackling" in rugby the quality of takles made should be the norm. The quality of tackles shoud be the norm and that is where palyers like Mostert fails miserably,
So Draad make defense 50% of the grade. He gets a B plus for defense (his lack of open field mobility restricts the grade). For everything else he gets an aggregate C. Overall grade B minus…not bias, logic.
Here’s the Rugby Pass take on blindside flankers at the WC. Dud Toit ‘saved his best for last’…in other words he played one really good game. And he will tackle anything that moves. Pretty much my take…a limited player made effective by our game plan.
Please also note the comments on Ollivon and Lawes as factors in contesting the ball on the deck. Du Toit literally bottles out of fetching opportunities…he isn’t committed. And both men are as tall as Dud.
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For a man of 6ft 7ins, Ollivon can shift through the gears, with his giant strides hoovering up the turf in front of him. Seen by many in the camp as the true leader of Les Bleus, the Toulon man has, like Courtney Lawes, turned into an effective proponent of the breakdown steal. Were it not for a Jesse Kriel ankle tap on the big blindside late on in the quarter-final, he could yet have been France’s hero.
Silver: Pieter Steph du Toit (SA)
A consistent cog in the Springbok machine during the tournament, du Toit saved his best game for the Final. Making a record 31 tackles, many of them dominant, he picked up the Player of the Match award and Jacques Nienaber joked that he would tackle a white carrier bag if it was floating across a rugby field. A modern-day great.
Bronze: Courtney Lawes (Eng)
With a glut of England stars bowing out, the common consensus is that it is Lawes, at 34, whom England will miss most. With slick footwork around the ruck, a watertight defence and ability to pickpocket balls on the deck, he will be sorely missed.
Moart
You ar really becoming suffer totally from BS capturing your brain.
I have seen a number of times where Du Toit got turnovers at breakdowns - but I never saw one where Mostert was involved in any such turnover. I saw two players excellent in abll protection at breakdowns - the one was De Allende - the other Du Toit.
I also know that you yourelf wrote once on site you never saw anything positive form the latter two players - you know why th at happens - it is ebcause you do not want to see anything positive contribuited by those two players and then BS takes over. .
Did that artiicle you quote abou Du Toit not contain the following:-
A modern-day great
Sure and I included the full quote, even though I obviously disagree with it. You should try it some time…honest reporting.
Moz you are speaking utter shit PSDT did not fail as a lock that’s a complete lie. He was our first choice 5 when he was moved to 7. It was a brilliant move by Rassie as he clearly wanted a big lock type of bruiser at 7 so it made perfect sense to move PSDT to 7 given we had the equally impressive Lood to slot into 5.
Of the 3 locks, PSDT was easily the most obvious choice to move to 7. He is more athletic than Lood and Eben is just too big for flank. Genius move by Rassie to invest in PSDT at 7
Your take on his strengths is utter bullshit as well, he is great at carrying in contact, always breaches the advantage line, is a master at dominant tackles just ask Jordie, he is good in the line outs and adds his physicality where it counts
He is a class act evidenced by all the awards he has notched up
No genius move by Eluckmiss. He mostly played flank in 2017. But he started as reserve lock to the preferred Mostert:
| head Prop | Tendai Mtawarira | Sharks | 31 | 87 | |
| Hooker | Malcolm Marx | Lions | 22 | 2 | |
| Tight-head Prop | Frans Malherbe | WP | 26 | 15 | |
| Lock | Eben Etzebeth | WP | 25 | 54 | |
| Lock | Franco Mostert | Lions | 26 | 7 | |
| Flank | Siya Kolisi | WP | 25 | 16 | |
| Flank | Oupa Mohoje | Cheetahs | 26 | 15 | |
| Eighthman (C) | Warren Whiteley | Lions | 29 | 15 | |
| Scrumhalf | Ross Cronjé | Lions | 27 | 0 | 1 try |
| Flyhalf | Elton Jantjies | Lions | 26 | 11 | 3 conversions, 3 penalties |
| Left Wing | Courtnall Skosan | Lions | 25 | 0 | |
| Inside Centre | Jan Serfontein | Blue Bulls | 24 | 26 | 1 try |
| Outside Centre | Jesse Kriel | Blue Bulls | 23 | 17 | 1 try |
| Right Wing | Raymond Rhule | Cheetahs | 24 | 0 | |
| Full Back | Andries Coetzee | Lions | 27 | 0 | |
| Reserve | Francois Steyn | Montpellier | 30 | 53 | |
| Reserve | Steven Kitshoff | Bordeaux | 25 | 10 | |
| Reserve | Jean-Luc du Preez | Sharks | 21 | 1 | |
| Reserve | Pieter-Steph du Toit | WP | 24 | 20 | |
| Reserve | Bongi Mbonambi | WP | 26 | 5 | |
| Reserve | Francois Hougaard | Worcester | 29 | 39 | |
| Reserve | Coenie Oosthuizen | Sharks | 28 | 23 | |
| Reserve | Dillyn Leyds | WP | 24 | 0 |
He was finally tried at starting lock once I believe. He flopped and was later introduced at flank. Eluckmiss pretty much inherited his whole 2019 team including the idea that Dud could play flank.
Just to provide a bit of perspective….our starting team that won the WC final had 12 Springboks who were from the HM/Coetzee era….including every forward. Only the back three were Erasmus selections at WC 2023.
"A consistent cog in the Springbok machine during the tournament, du Toit saved his best game for the Final. Making a record 31 tackles, many of them dominant, he picked up the Player of the Match award and Jacques Nienaber joked that he would tackle a white carrier bag if it was floating across a rugby field. A modern-day great."
B minus my arse.
You are minus an arse? Another of those arseless wonders? No wonder (sic) is always trying to humiliate you.
Making a record 31 tackles
Made 28, missed 3. I thought he had an excellent final, but it would help if the media actually know that there's a difference between attempting 31 tackles and making 31 tackles.
A consistent cog in the Springbok machine during the tournament
As vague an endorsement as you can hope to get. Basically a fancy way of saying "he was in the team for the most part". He had a quiet tournament. You'll find little mention of Mostert topping the forward tackle stats against France, making 13 and missing none, while PSDT made 9 and missed 5. Between the Scotland and France games PSDT missed a third of his tackles. Who will highlight that? Not the media.
I never said Rassie was the first to start him at 7 I said Rassie invested in him there
You are lying that he failed at lock he has never failed on the rugby field for the Boks and Mostert has never been preferred over him under Rassie ever
And yet here we are in the next game….you can tell it’s the next game because the number of tests in the right column has gone up by 1. And there it is again, Mostert preferred to Dud at #5. Unless of course you want to argue Oupa Mahoje was preferred to him at flank…negated by the fact his next start was at lock.
You can argue about opinions Dave. When you deny facts in black and white right in front of you…..you lose credibility.
Team:
Combined caps: 273 tests (starting 15)
| Position | Player | Province | Age | Prev Tests | Scoring |
| Loose-head Prop | Tendai Mtawarira | Sharks | 31 | 88 | |
| Hooker | Malcolm Marx | Lions | 22 | 3 | |
| Tight-head Prop | Frans Malherbe | WP | 26 | 16 | |
| Lock | Eben Etzebeth | WP | 25 | 55 | |
| Lock | Franco Mostert | Lions | 26 | 8 | |
| Flank | Siya Kolisi | WP | 26 | 17 | 1 try |
| Flank | Oupa Mohoje | Cheetahs | 26 | 16 | |
| Eighthman (C) | Warren Whiteley | Lions | 29 | 16 | |
| Scrumhalf | Ross Cronjé | Lions | 27 | 1 | |
| Flyhalf | Elton Jantjies | Lions | 26 | 12 | 1 try, 4 conversions, 3 penalties |
| Left Wing | Courtnall Skosan | Lions | 25 | 1 | |
| Inside Centre | Jan Serfontein | Blue Bulls | 24 | 27 | 1 try |
| Outside Centre | Lionel Mapoe | Lions | 28 | 11 | |
| Right Wing | Raymond Rhule | Cheetahs | 24 | 1 | |
| Full Back | Andries Coetzee | Lions | 27 | 1 | |
| Reserve | Jean-Luc du Preez | Sharks | 21 | 2 | |
| Reserve | Steven Kitshoff | Bordeaux | 25 | 11 | |
| Reserve | Coenie Oosthuizen | Sharks | 28 | 24 | 1 try |
| Reserve | Francois Steyn | Montpellier | 30 | 54 | |
| Reserve | Pieter-Steph du Toit | WP | 24 | 21 | |
| Reserve | Francois Hougaard | Worcester | 29 | 40 | |
| Reserve | Bongi Mbonambi | WP | 26 | 6 | |
| Reserve | Dillyn Leyds | WP | 24 | 1 |
Pakie I agree Dud had a very effective final after a quiet WC, possibly because our final was all about defense or because he was really up for that game.
The question I’d pose to the media believers is, what’s different from his performance in the 2019 final? It was the same thing…except in 2019 he was involved in some linking movements eg the Kolbe try.
If anything Dud’s game has become narrower, rather than broader. Gone are the pick and go contributions he was very good at. Gone are the attempts, woeful admittedly, to play down the wings. Now it’s just tackling.
In that regard he timed three hits brilliantly in the final, but how Barrett couldn’t step those charges remains a mystery.
I respect the effort du Toit puts in, but for me he is a blunt instrument.
That’s pre Rassie days under ignorant Coetzee and 2 tests tells us nothing
This is al.l Mozart BS again. He said in the apst he h eas nver seen anything poisitive in Du Toit's performances - but the real fact is that the hate camapign BS started when some of the members opposed the decision by Meyer to bring back Matfield after his retirement to play for the Springboks.
At that stage Dave and I wrote it would be better to start using Du Toit in that possition and Mozart ad a fit about it and start attaqcking D u Toit endlessly, He obviously was wrong - as expected Matfield was a total failure in the Springbok team in 2014 and 2015.
In 2018 when Erasmus became Director of Rugby his aattacks on Erasmus started and he even wroite on site that retaining Coetzee was a better option than to appoint Erasmus. He openly attacked Erasmus because he wanted White re-appointed. Since then despite two WC wins his attack on Erasmus was continued irrespective of what happened in SA Rugby he invented lies to attack Erasmus on.
So what he said about Du Toit is about as shallow as his lies could get him. By the way D u Toit is not a blunt instrument - Mozart brain has beene ffected and is now a blunt instrument.
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| Coach: Rassie Erasmus | Attendance: 55260 | |||||
Team:
Combined caps: 320 tests (starting 15)
| Position | Player | Province | Age | Prev Tests | Scoring |
| Loose-head Prop | Tendai Mtawarira | Sharks | 32 | 98 | |
| Hooker | Bongi Mbonambi | WP | 27 | 14 | |
| Tight-head Prop | Wilco Louw | WP | 23 | 6 | |
| Lock | RG Snyman | Blue Bulls | 23 | 0 | |
| Lock | Franco Mostert | Lions | 27 | 18 | |
| Flank (C) | Siya Kolisi | WP | 26 | 28 | |
| Flank | Jean-Luc du Preez | Sharks | 22 | 10 | |
| Eighthman | Duane Vermeulen | Toulon | 31 | 39 | |
| Scrumhalf | Faf de Klerk | Sale | 26 | 11 | 1 try |
| Flyhalf | Handré Pollard | Blue Bulls | 24 | 26 | 4 conversions, 3 penalties |
| Left Wing | Aphiwe Dyantyi | Lions | 23 | 0 | 1 try |
| Inside Centre | Damian de Allende | WP | 26 | 28 | |
| Outside Centre | Lukhanyo Am | Sharks | 24 | 1 | |
| Right Wing | S'bu Nkosi | Sharks | 22 | 0 | 2 tries |
| Full Back | Willie le Roux | Wasps | 28 | 41 | 1 try |
| Reserve | Steven Kitshoff | WP | 26 | 24 | |
| Reserve | Thomas du Toit | Sharks | 23 | 1 | |
| Reserve | Pieter-Steph du Toit | WP | 25 | 33 | |
| Reserve | Akker van der Merwe | Sharks | 26 | 1 | |
| Reserve | Warrick Gelant | Blue Bulls | 23 | 3 | |
| Reserve | Sikhumbuszo Notshe | WP | 25 | 1 | |
| Reserve | Ivan van Zyl | Blue Bulls | 22 | 1 | |
| Reserve | Elton Jantjies | Lions | 27 | 24 |
There he is in the Rassie days….reserve lock to Mostert. Time to give up Dave.
Yes we know Rassie started with Mostert at lock then realised he was physically inept and replaced him with the more physical Lood. The only time Mostert returned to the starting line up like the last WC was when Lood was injured
As I said before I was shocked to see that useless Mostert had started as many games as he did at the start of Rassie’s tenure - it took him too long to realise he was not his best starting lock - he should have stuck with Dave and realised early on
Biggest fuck up was not starting RG at 5 in the WC - made absolutely zero sense
At least when you compared Lood to Mostert there is 20% in favour of Mostert given all those tackles if tackles were the measure of a lock
Comparing Mostert to RG is 200% in RG’s favour if there was such a thing
Actually no…..he started with Dud against Wales. Replaced him with Mostert for 9 games. Selected Dud for 2 games at lock on the YE tour and then brought back Mostert and put Dud on the flank for the last 2 games of 2018.
So he showed loyalty to Mostert even when Dud was his reserve number 5. Played Dud 3 times to Mostert’s 11 and only when he wanted Mostert back at lock did the Dud at flank idea emerge. Genius.
Am I right or am I right ?
RWC final when the bomb squad arrived, Etzebeth wus subbed
Mighty Mossie remained for the duration .
Not this time Blob…Snyman came on for Mostert and Klein for Etzebeth.
Mozart based on your assessment of Du Toit above - h ere is the real assessment of Mostert on the same issue:-
Process tackling - C minus
Open field tackling - Non-existent
Ball carrying B minus - D minus
Offloading - X minus
Ruck driving - No/n-exsitent
Contesting ball on the ground - Non-existent
Back of lineout jumping - .Non-existent *
* Fact is at lock - Mostert jump in the middle of the line-outs and in his rare back line jumpin he failed repeatedly against opposition. You need bodily strength to do such jumping and Mostert has none.
ouMaaik, your 'bodily' brain's misfunctioning . get a grip, ffs.
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