Captain Quota, Moerat

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Jul 17, 2024, 13:03

Man, how on earth did this guy even make the bok team. He has no clear history, but rather a hyped up age group player. I have not seen any meaningful games or a highlight real to speak of. If you look at the likes of RG, Etzebeth, Lood or even Nortje, you can see these guys have impacts on their games. Be it big hits, hard carries or winning opposition ball. Instead, blessed with a darker tan, and able to get through a professional game, now became the bok captain. 


He is already 26 and do you want to tell me that this guy is the replacement for Etzebeth? 


Looks Rassie is caught between philosophies. With Nienaber defence and percentage rugby it is okay to select brain dead players, but I don't see how this guy will have an impact. Where on earth is Vermaak or Nortje  

Jul 17, 2024, 13:20

Before Sadsex shoots his load


Nortje stats: 

Height2.00 m (6 ft 6+1?2 in)
Weight113 kg (249 lb; 17 st 11 lb)

Moersegat 

Height2.00 m (6 ft 6+1?2 in)
Weight116 kg (256 lb; 18 st 4 lb)

3kg difference, who is the better player? 

One can win line outs, cover ground and have pace and have a big engine

The other injury prone, can't compete or win line outs, no pace, always stuck in 1st gear

Jul 17, 2024, 13:21

Disagree he is a good player - aggressive, physical and gets stuck in.

Jul 17, 2024, 13:24

Funny enough Vermaak and Nortje was invited to the alignment camps ….but as it turns out for nothing…only Rassie will know what he is trying to do or achieve….but with stupid selections like this team vs Portugal, it doesn’t look very bright.

Jul 17, 2024, 13:25

Your stats are outdated - one only needs to look at Nortje vs Moerat size wise to conclude that Moerat is far bulkier and all of 9kg heavier

Salmaan MOERAT South Africa Flag 26 years, Lock Photo Salmaan MOERAT Bio Salmaan MOERAT is a 26-year-old South African rugby player standing at 2 m tall (6 ft 7 in) and weighing in at 122 kg (19 st 2.96 lb; 268.96 lb) , who currently plays for Stormers in South Africa as lock. Nationality #1 Drapeau South Africa South Africa Sporting nationality Drapeau South Africa South Africa Career Stormers (2017 - 2024) Occupied positions by Salmaan on start team : Lock : 38 times ( Lock #4 89%, Lock #5 11% )

Jul 17, 2024, 14:45

A Moerat is not better than a Ruben v Heerden,Nortje, Vermaak or Adre smith …alone that he is picked and not them, speaks only for one thing , affirmative action….bloody Politics endorsed by this disgusting Government…. It otherwise makes no sense as all of those locks out performs him by a country mile….that’s a fact!

Jul 17, 2024, 14:48

Bullshit Moerat is as good as those players without doubt

Jul 17, 2024, 14:52

Really in the two games we saw him play for the Boks of the bench he was mediocre and could not make a impact….but ok let’s see how he goes as he will most probably get more game time now that Mostert is out injured…if he performs well against OZ and AB then i will take the egg.

Jul 17, 2024, 14:53

Moerat is utterly ordinary…another political selection. Making him captain when he hasn’t any international credentials is utterly cynical.

Jul 17, 2024, 15:28

A bad joke selecting him as a starter or even include him in the Springbiok camp and then making him Kaptein is nothing but stupid.

Rassie must be positioning himself for a political career once he gets replaced I guess.

Not worth watching the game.

Jul 17, 2024, 15:49

Rugby ignorance prevails as ever - I mean you clowns rate Mostert

Enough said

Just to point out how rugby ignorant you lot are you are bitching about him being the captain - well bright sparks given the 15 selected who the fuck else would be captain huh?

The only other player to captain a side is Thomas and Buthelezi has on occasion so given this fact it makes perfect sense that Moerat is the captain having captained the Baby Boks and the Stormers for a few seasons now.

As Rassie mentioned - Moerat is a natural leader and a good rugby player

Jul 17, 2024, 16:34

Tired of supporting Eluckmiss’ political aspirations.

Jul 17, 2024, 17:10

Kitsie was the regular Captain and lead the stormers when they won the URC title ….after Kitshoff left they announced Moetat as captain for the 23/24 season….because he is also a injury prone player, he hasn’t been Captain for that long and does not justify his selection at Bok level.

Dobbo used players like Fourie or Neethling Fouche a lot as Captain….Rassies Agenda is mostly to appease a Corrupt Government, that has managed to Destroy a South Africa to the condition it’s in now.

So excuse us if we not happy with a yet again, politically motivated move by Eluckmiss….. his selections sucks ass big time and is not to be taking serious…the same counts for the appointment of Siya Kollisi.

He was picked , although there was much better options like Thor that mostly played a whole 80 mins ….where Golden boy can hardly play 50 min….it’s as clear as daylight that SA Rugby is directed by the Government.

Jul 17, 2024, 19:10

Tired of supporting Eluckmiss’ political aspirations.

Actually he's left it for too late if he was to join the ANC they have as we know been shredded in the recent elections, he'd be better off joining the even more useless EFF Hahahahaha

But on a more serious note there is a new non ANC sports minister and it wouldn't surprise if he digs a huge hole and buries quota selections.

Jul 17, 2024, 21:27

Moerat shouldn't even be in the team. He has only played 600 min all season and yet to play a full game. 

His first class games are only at 30 and he is already 26 years old. 

He has been hyped up from school boy level and has very strong political connected family who has a big influence over WP rugby. If you read the history, many of his family members feel hard done by. 

I'm not saying he is a bad player, but I have watched all the Stormers games this season and can honestly say between him and Dweeb that the Stormers line out never worked well. 

Big poser if you ask me. 

Rassie should be playing his best next gen 15 


Jul 17, 2024, 22:59

Rassie's under pressure from the colour counting controllers .................. at this stage of his tenure there should be at least 54%  p.o.c. in the team ................ sadly we were down to 33%:ermm: in the Irish tests.  The p.o.c. selections for Saturday -- up to 44% (& having a colourful captain gives us a bonus point) but em who must be obeyed are not happy chappies. 

Rassie must start to wiet watte belangrik is .                                               


Jul 17, 2024, 23:19

All a load of shit Moerat is a good lock - I’d take him over Mostert and Orie anyday

Jul 17, 2024, 23:53

Moerat is an insult.

Jul 17, 2024, 23:55

As is Mostert a complete physical liability

Jul 18, 2024, 01:37

Mostert gets hurt….Boks lose the game.

Lomp gets hurt…..Mostert comes on….Boks win the game.


Jul 18, 2024, 02:57

Just want to point out how one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

I was at a test match in Sydney watching the Boks vs Oz. Next to me was an Ozzie and his son, we had a chat after the game and I remember him saying '..... that #7 was everywhere,' he was referring to Mostert. 

Jul 18, 2024, 08:56

Oh for fuck sake do you honestly think losing the useless Mostert was the reason we lost the test?

RG was far better than Mostert ever was and will prove that beyond doubt by the end of the RC

Mostert is history - RG will start and all I can say is thank fuck

Jul 18, 2024, 11:15

Dave what has Mostert done to you or your family for you to continue with your BS.

Wake up man and smell the ROSES.

FFS.

Jul 18, 2024, 11:23

AJ wake the fuck up it’s not personal he is just a sad excuse for a test lock

What part of him not being physical enough for the role do you not get?

I’m not stupid enough to be taken in by all his heart and energy and all his lovely process tackles

Fuck me as a bear minimum a Bok lock needs some grunt

Mostert is shit - a physical liability end of. Physicality aside he is a bog ordinary player - name a single instance where he has impressed with ball in hand or made a great pass or run a great line? If he is a lightweight like he is then he should then be a special rugby player in other aspects

He is NOT so what does he actually offer? Line out takes and 15 tackles a game - are those tackles the job of a lock huh?

Jul 18, 2024, 11:37

Fuck me as a bear minimum a Bok lock needs some grunt

Kinda think if you have the BEAR then you most decidedly have the grunt...they go together don't they? :D

Jul 18, 2024, 11:49

I am very pleased to see my stance taken just after th ANC came to power that merit selections were he only way to go and that selecting on the basis of race was racist. Clearly my arguments have won the day. 

At the time Rooitwit said I was a Nazi etc (rooitwit had heard from somebody that Hitler an the nazis were bad dudes). It was hugely amusing that when Rooitwits unfortunate son didnt get a job because of affirmative action he flipped on the issue and was wailing away and very bitter.

That said one has to remember no Bok coach can ignore the expectations of Government. That is the unfortunate reality. Rassie brilliantly opted for Kolisi as captain and got the country behind the Boks. And no I don't think Kolisi was a great captain but he was well supported and carried himself with dignity and goodwill.

The first problem Rassie faces in selecting a Bok squad is to ensure there are sufficient people of colour in the team. Other Bok coaches crashed and burned not having the coaching and people skills to manage this. Rassie succeeded in making a band of brothers out of a diverse group of player who would lay it all on the line. We saw this incredible fighting spirit at the recent world cup. where one close match after another was won by a side that refused to lie down. It was a hugely inspiring effort for the people of South Africa and the team returned to a well deserved and massive heroes welcome.

I have not see Moerat play that often but my impression was he was a physical and competent lock. I am hoping we will stop playing locks who can't dominate physically. As Sean Fitzpatrick famously said South Africa's big athletic forwards are our competitive advantage or words to that effect.

Meanwhile ou mozzzietard sitting at some exclusive gated golf club in crime ridden demonrat run Chicago was horrified when Rassie and the Boks won for a second time. All his dreams of being vindicated after year of slurs, slanders and fibs crashed and burned. Instead of being like rooitwit and admitting he got Rassie wrong he continues to this day smearing Rassie and undermining the coach at every turn. Bright Orange Yeah Smiley





Jul 18, 2024, 13:07

The hard truth is that we don't have true 4 lock like Etzebeth in the team. Maybe Rassie feels he is the guy to replace Eben. 

But I'm sure there must be some boere meat somewhere in that mould which haven't unearthed yet

Jul 18, 2024, 13:57

Bear minimum lol

Bare bare

Jul 18, 2024, 13:59

Jason Jenkins is the closest thing to Eben followed by Ruan Vermaak, Moerat and Andre Smith

There will never be another Eben but these 4 are good

Jul 18, 2024, 15:07

If Mostert is selected by Rassie as a lock in any test and you claim that Rassie is the best coach/manager to led the Springbok squad why do you continue with your negative comments about Mostert and never accuse Rassie of screwing up.

When you support Elton a few seasons ago you hailed him as the hero for the Boks.

Well that was all BS both on and off the field with him.

Most of the members on this forum have suggested that Moster is a good lock and never fails to lay it on the line in every test.

Well most except for you and a few of the Stormers supporters.

You appear to be obsessed with Moster.

Pity because your rugby post are normally very good.



Jul 18, 2024, 15:20

Quince

Jul 18, 2024, 18:18

AJ you seemed to have missed the point I don’t give a toss what anyone on here thinks of Mostert I’m not stupid enough to buy into the heart and energy - I see past that with his zero physical productivity

A lack of physicality might be excusable as say an openside or an attacking minded bench hooker but not your lock. There is zero justification for a gruntless test lock especially in a Bok pack. What makes things worse is that Mostert is not even a gifted rugby player. There is absolutely nothing special about him.

I’ve said this numerous times, Rassie is by some distance the best coach we have ever had but he is not perfect - not by any stretch. His investment in useless Mostert is his biggest failing along with Orie and not investing in the likes of the du Preez twins, Jenkins, Wilco, Thomas, showing faith in Roos, his non selection of David Kriel and Ruben v Heerden

I do take comfort in the fact that Rassie is not completely blinded by Mostert in that he did realise that the more physical Lood was a better option and so at least picked a fit Lood ahead of Mostert

What I do find strange though is that RG is better than Lood so why is RG not starting ahead of useless Mostert? I can only think it’s because RG has been out of action for so long

Mostert in my books is not even ordinary he is shit - he would not make my Bok squad of 100 players and I mean that sincerely

I only select real locks in my squad

 
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