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Aug 19, 2023, 12:11

Irrespective of what the opinions are about the personnel, here's hoping we bliksem the Welsh. Currently in Cardiff, and the atmosphere is fantastic. Prediction: Boks with a win, score by 37.

Aug 19, 2023, 12:34

Me too, this is as close as we can get to our first team, Welsh B team. 

Kolisi will have to put a massive shit in. 

Ox needs a solid stand and so does Hendrikse 

Aug 19, 2023, 12:49

Kolisi will have to put a massive shit in.

In other words, strain hard. I agree. :P

Aug 19, 2023, 14:00

I can't be excited when DDA and Jessica are there.

Mostert isn't a bench player. If he's not starting he shouldn't be there. Rather have a 6.6 muscular monster come in if it's only gonna be for 20 minutes.

Aug 19, 2023, 14:36

Bok Scrum looking strong. 2 penalties earned.

Aug 19, 2023, 14:36

Libok pole kicking is concerning

Aug 19, 2023, 14:53

Wales look ready to be broken in the second half. I anticipate a good few tries on offer in the second half. 

Aug 19, 2023, 15:00

Laughable penalty try to the Boks and yellow card.

Aug 19, 2023, 15:10

I know Moz.

The Welsh scrum is nonexistent at this point.

Dang...we need someone that can lock at 10.

Aug 19, 2023, 15:11

Got the game but no commentary, what was the ruling for the yellow card?

Aug 19, 2023, 15:13

Knocking it dead in goal with no attempt to catch it?

Wasn't he in the field of play when he knocked it back?

Aug 19, 2023, 15:15

Moodie knocked it on first...

Aug 19, 2023, 15:24

That as well. Tough call on the welsh for sure.

Aug 19, 2023, 15:25

Glad to see how kolisi played. Especially tracking back at full pace to run down one of the Welsh hacks. Chased about 40 m to catch a back. Great pace.


Aug 19, 2023, 15:26

Still the welsh not in this so far anyway.

Aug 19, 2023, 15:26

Just hope the boks don't go asleep now

Aug 19, 2023, 15:37

Kriel got some gas... or the Welsh guy poor. 

Aug 19, 2023, 15:42

Snyman picks up Dud and drops him over the line. 

Aug 19, 2023, 15:44

Moodie surely has nailed that 14 jumper down

Aug 19, 2023, 15:57

Hard  to see a Wales player today that looks like a WC candidate.

Aug 19, 2023, 16:03

Well if that's red your boy can sleep easy as he will get off no problem now the precedent has been set.

Aug 19, 2023, 16:06

He just needs to ask if he has to blow all 3 on the panel  or just 2.

Aug 19, 2023, 16:09

Any bets the TMO is getting a call right now to keep it as a yellow.

Aug 19, 2023, 16:27

Well done boks, but before we go hooting about this score, just remember, it was a c team. Welsh team were the worst performers in the URC. 

Here is my view. 

Ox had a impact at scrum and general play.

Kleyn and Snyman are definitely in our top 3 locks. No need for Orie. 

Kolisi came through really. Made it up to 40 min. However, hardly ever played a full games, even when he was fit. 

Hendrikse, not sure about him 

Libbok, mixed back. Defence was good, out of hand, passing etc all good. Kicking nope. With two straight kicks completely of target, this should be bread and butter for him 

Dud, dear end runs

Kriel stood out well. Different player to Am but probably better than am at the moment. 

Moodie and Kolbe did really well.

Willie continues to frustrate me. How many high balls did he miss

Kriel played well with Space. 

Aug 19, 2023, 16:41

Yes Krei has always been better than some critics here have judged. 

Add Eben into that starting pack and you have a very good 8.

Lots of talent, pace and creativity in tbe backline. Esterhuizen must play against England. 

Du Toit was good once again. 

I hope now some of the oaks can stop being so negative and end the over played drama queen act. Hahahahahahaha. 


Aug 19, 2023, 16:44

Oh, Wiese was nowhere, yet again. Lateral running, no go forward, when he does get over the advantage line gets stripped. 

Interesting to see will be our team next week

Aug 19, 2023, 16:44

Need to find a goal kicker, going to struggle to win the world cup with that shit, did he even crack 50% off the tee?

Aug 19, 2023, 16:56

This was a nice warmup, but it was without a doubt a B-team for Wales.  

Delande had a good game as a loose forward. 


Aug 19, 2023, 16:59

Wales had nothing.

Lots of easy scores for the Boks. It's still only the AB scrum that currently seems able to keep up.

Aug 19, 2023, 17:55

Before the Moody train leaves the station ….7 tackles made and 4 missed. He was also beaten on the high ball several times by his opponent. Not to say he wasn’t very good on occasions.

Aug 19, 2023, 18:23

There were a lot of things exposed. Wales had a lot of good ideas, but are very raw. The WC is a year or two ahead of them. Their first up tackles, inside and outside support, it lacked intent and cohesion. Their scrum was obviously not very good, but a first team lineup beat the Boks scrum up last year. Our scrum is not the best. Neutral on a good day, dominant against an especially vulnerable side. Nothing changes for us. If I were game planning against the Boks for a WC encounter, I'd be very excited about the opportunities they present. 

Aug 19, 2023, 18:55

Deus...you'd know where to get the scrum stats for the last two years.

Post em, let's see what they say.

I only recollect us struggling against the ABs. Over all other sides I have us winning more penalties than we give away.

But I'm going on memory.

So let's see...

Aug 19, 2023, 19:04

There were a lot of things exposed. Wales had a lot of good ideas, but are very raw. The WC is a year or two ahead of them. Their first up tackles, inside and outside support, it lacked intent and cohesion. Their scrum was obviously not very good, but a first team lineup beat the Boks scrum up last year. Our scrum is not the best. Neutral on a good day, dominant against an especially vulnerable side. Nothing changes for us. If I were game planning against the Boks for a WC encounter, I'd be very excited about the opportunities they present. 

Aug 19, 2023, 21:59

Mozart, yes, the fact none of our guys could catch the high ball really frustrated me too. Moody was also a culprit and it is not th first time that we struggle with our own medicine. Other teams have learned to catch, we didn't. 

Yes he got beaten on the outside but definitely made up by getting his man eventually. I also believe it is the defence system which is more about applying pressure than tackling. 

Don't forget the same press turned over the ball where he literally took the ball out of the Welsh players hands

Well, at least the boks are 4/5 with a rematch against the all blacks

Aug 19, 2023, 22:22

A poor game for the Welsh "C" team so I will not lay praise on any Bok player until they play in the World Cup.

If Libbok is our first choice #9 we have one major problem before we get to the RWC.

Perhaps he and some others will deliver at the next game prior to the RWC.

I for one am not holding any hope that he will deliver in any of the RWC games.

As far as I am concerned he is yet another Elton.

International rugby is one step above the capabilities of both.


Aug 19, 2023, 22:24

A defensive system relies on discipline, reads, and physicality. Our defence lacks punch and discipline. Erasputin has built the team around fundamentally flawed defenders. On attack, we lack physicality, skill, and gray matter. Wales were very vulnerable structurally, and physically didn't apply intensity. The Boks founder under even moderate pressure. This was a training ground session. Nothing more. Nothing has changed. A nice day out to see for entertainment. That's all.

Wales looked like a team that were trying to think about the implementation of their patterns and structures. It's new combinations, and new systems. For them, this was about finding familiarity under those new conditions, in a live setting. This is why I said before the game, Wales will benefit more from this than us no matter the outcome. It'll only entrench Erasputin into believing in the bad decisions he is making. 

Aug 19, 2023, 22:29

The Boks game next week will be a true test of their standard against the AB's.

Time will tell if they are capable of a surprise winning result in this years RWC.


Aug 19, 2023, 22:45

New Zealand are known to experiment before a WC. It's twice left Australia with the false belief that they were ready and good before a WC. I'd be cautious about drawing conclusions, depending how the game is approached and the quality of the encounter. If NZ rock up with intent and we suddenly play good rugby, that'll be encouraging. I haven't seen this since the first half of the home test against them in 2018 though. 

Aug 20, 2023, 06:08

Risking injuries before the World Cup.... see the damage on France. 

Aug 21, 2023, 15:13

A good moral boosting win for the Boks….Moodie is class, did miss some takles but also made try saving tackles….Libbok was very good at Distributing and that created opportunities to actually score….but his pole kicking has got him totally spooked….RG had a cracker so did Kollisi and Kleyn…Franco also made a good impact with try saving tackles to the end of the game…DDA and Kriel did not have a lot of tough competition thru the Welsh Midfield, but we’re better and Kriel still has pace….in the end of the day this was a B team, so if we can win the AB on Saturday it will put us in a good position going into the WC

Aug 21, 2023, 15:46

The Boks are far from being in a good position. We don't have a test quality halfback pairing, we aren't featuring a test quality loose trio and even against Wales, we were exposed structurally quite a number of times. Wales simply didn't have the synergy to punish it. 

Aug 21, 2023, 16:55

Well, it can’t hurt us going into the WC with a AB scalp….that willl give a good Confidence Boost…that our structure sometimes looks a bit chaotic is true but there is not much a person can do about it now….it’s not going to change magically….we must just keep on playing Positive Rugby….and against Wales is a positive step up.

Aug 21, 2023, 17:07

So what you are saying is that we should just keep bumbling around and hoping to have teams literally hand us the ball, and flop off tackles easily, whilst gifting us free space as we cannot create anything? Doesn't sound convincing to me. 

Aug 21, 2023, 17:15

So a loss against us will be a utter disaster for your lot then?

I for one aren't reading anything into this game which ever way it goes.

RWC is a whole different  beast, this is like a pre season Super rugby game, means nothing (apart from bragging rights).


Aug 21, 2023, 17:30

Deus no one is saying we should keep on humbling ourselves, but the fact is we have Rassie and co now and there is not much a person can do about it now….he pulls the strings….that being said the win over wales is a positive score and Crusader if we win on Saturday it can only be positive for our self belief and confidence….Beating the AB for any team is Positive, as they are so difficult to beat.

Aug 21, 2023, 17:36

True but what do you read into a loss?

Aug 21, 2023, 17:57

If we loose it will be negative for our confidence … let’s say we do make it out of our pool, we have none other than the AB standing in our way…and whoever wins on Saturday, will have one up in that clash….I know it’s WC, anything can happen, but that’s what I think.

Aug 21, 2023, 18:26

It’s Friday night, Mpower. 

If you play on Saturday you’ll be getting in amongst England vs Fiji :) 

Aug 21, 2023, 18:28

Oops thanks becs : )

Aug 21, 2023, 18:29

Anytime, Mpower :) 

Just been laughing at the thought of four teams trying to play at once ! 

Aug 21, 2023, 18:38

We are looking about performance. Context is key. We haven't played good rugby this year. That's a problem. What good is a warm-up test, if you don't take a step forward. The more games we play, the more confused our coaches appear to be. We have shown no development in our game, at all. New Zealand tends to test out ideas in their last few games of a World Cup. It's lead Australia twice into believing they were better than they were. 

Aug 21, 2023, 18:42

Yeah, I agree with NZ tactic.

Closing in on a WC you should be testing strategies, not personnel.

Aug 21, 2023, 18:49

Well Deus, wouldn’t you say our game against wales was a bit of a step up?…especially in Cardiff where we have a bad record. Our record this year has not been great but I can see some improvement….but on the other hand we have not beaten a top team yet, that is why Friday,s game is important….when we beat the AB at home before the 2019 WC, it did a lot for our Confidence….the odds are stacked against us, but I think we can pull this off…well I hope so.

Aug 21, 2023, 18:59

No, I would not. A thorough review of the game would reveal quite clearly that we showed no improvement and exhibited many vulnerabilities. As predicted. I'm not a casual Mpower. 

when we beat the AB at home before the 2019 WC, it did a lot for our Confidence

I don't think it did anything at all. We ended the year with a worse record than before, played poorly throughout 2019, and actually lost comfortably to New Zealand in the pool stages, which dropped us to 6th in the rankings. The final itself was the only convincing part of the entire 2019 season, aside from Esterhuizen's masterclass in shackling Australia. 

Aug 21, 2023, 19:06

Our record this year hasn't been terrible...unless I missed some matches or am suffering from memory loss, we only lost away to the ABs and dealt with everybody without too much issue.

Aug 21, 2023, 19:11

We played the worst All Black and Wallaby sides of all time, a predictably patchy Puma side, and the worst Welsh effort since the late 90s. What exactly does that say? And to add insult to injury, we haven't played any good rugby at all. The 2002 and 2003 sides would have fared better. This is the worst Bok side that has gone to a world cup. 

Aug 21, 2023, 19:17

That is a big statement….the AB played excellent rugby to beat us the other day and they are by far not the worst AB team…only time will tell what will happen in this WC.

Aug 21, 2023, 19:21

Not really Mpower. They grew in confidence in that game, and they exposed us horribly in that second half in particular, but this All Black side is statistically the worst of all tine. 

Aug 21, 2023, 19:23

“ Irrespective of what the opinions are about the personnel, here's hoping we bliksem the Welsh. Currently in Cardiff, and the atmosphere is fantastic. Prediction: Boks with a win, score by 37. “ and we did Bliksem them, so what are you unhappy about?? Ag no man Deus, it can’t always just be doom and gloom : )

 
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