Dave
There were 6 kicks at goal by the Springb oks with only 1 being converted. That is all I needed to see to realize why the Springboks lost he match.
The playersd thst really produced the goods are being criticized on site - while those that really produc ed nothing are being praised on site.
Can’t say in that test individuals stood out on either side
Aki had one great break thanks to running through Libbok and Willemse stood out for me
Lowe did some good work defensively
There was very little in it bar those damn missed points
But I’m going to watch the game again to digest it properly
There were 6 kicks at goal by the Springb oks with only 1 being converted. That is all I needed to see to realize why the Springboks lost he match.
Sexton’s conversion made it 7-3 at the interval and some of the statistics made interesting reading. Ireland had conceded only three penalties in the first 40 minutes compared to South Africa’s seven and five turnovers also reflected their hard work at the breakdown
Spot on Strav - there was nothing between the sides - a draw would have been a true reflection
I thought RG after his great break could have done a better job of finding support runners
Many missed opportunities, including Faf engaging with the ref instead of defending which lead to your last 3 point penalty kick
Stav is right for once. There was nothing in it but on balance the Boks deserved the win as they had more opportunities and only a sub par kicking for goal display prevented the win.
However the Irish won opened the door for the usual fake Bok supporters to trash all their usual suspects Hence Allende got trashed and thst very biased hapless Mozzzz blamed Akmende for the missed tackle on Aki and other matters, Du Toit of course was useless although Sexton called him one of the best loose forwards in the World. Rassie of course was as per usual roasted. Heck he was roasted even after the RWC win. Then it was once again Malherbe in the firing line. All so very predictable. They are like a stuck record. The only new villain was Kolisi. Perhaps not entirely new.
Then we had the most virulent fake Bok supporter following up on his comments thst the Boks had a glass jaw and soft under bly going on to say that Rassie was the worst Bok coach ever. This clown has now been fully exposed.
Indeed so bad was it thst Hakwa commented how poorly the so called Bok supporters were behaving about an unfortunate and very narrow loss.
It was a superb lesson on how to make a complete Mampara of oneself. Bwahahahahaha
Healthy criticism is not bad, but good…whichever way you look at it, the Boks should have won that game!! No excuses they lost!! Why is it that we mostly come short with these important games?? Why is that this so called genius keep on selecting players that is not up to standard?? Why is it that our gameplan/ style of play has not improved since 2019?? We still mostly only playing stamp kar and our Backline is mostly not being used….I for one, are sick of losing when it matters most. I want more, I want the boks to reign supreme and win all there Fucking Games! So who is the real supporter here, the one that wants the Boks to be the best or the Supporter that walks around with eye flaps on …that is happy with the mediocre performances we put in??
There usually isn't much in a game where the points difference ends up being one score or less. An error here, blown opportunity there.
Having watched the first half again I’ve changed my original perception of de Allende and Kriel
They were both good in the first half, Kriel with two try saving tackles and de Allende with the power to own Ringrose and Sexton
It’s those small margins - that kick by Faf in the beginning that gets gathered by Arendse who puts Kriel away, Kriel with more pace and assertiveness should have scored - Ringrose takes him from behind.
That break by Keenan is thanks to Bongi being off the pace and jogging, not looking to make the tackle - Bongi is not in the form we know he is capable of. That miss sums him up these days. He is off the pace.
That stupid cut out long pass to Arendse by Faf sees Arendse exposed, isolated and turned over easily by Lowe
DA good break running over Sexton is just short of the line, PSDT gains possession only to have Lowe rip it off him inches from the line. Poor by PSDT - missed try scoring opportunity
That scrum close to the line, ball to Kriel who makes metres but instead of attacking the weak shoulder he runs straight into Aki and throws the ball into Kolisi’s head - Kolisi with ball in hand only has to fall over the line with the closest defender to him, completely unaligned to stop him. Easy try coughed up. That lost opportunity sums Kriel up on attack - too robotic - he should have stepped and attacked space or with soft hands found Kolisi. Am at 13 would have scored that or found Kolisi.
The Aki break is poor defence by Libbok, not helped by Faf rushing and creating more confusion than constructive defensive impact. That set up Ireland to score
DA kicks to corner near Irish line, PSDT gets trapped for not rolling away - pressure on their line conceded - why the fuck do players not make a better and more obvious effort to roll away
Second half to watch later
I'm still bemused at how people are calling it an epic game when one of the sides was clearly underperforming massively.
Aren't epic games those were both teams are playing very well and it ends up being close?
Sure if you're gonna judge the game purely on the back and forth, and the resulting close score line, then one could call it a great game. But I didn't feel it was a great game at all. Even if the Boks had won, it would have moved the needle much for me.
SA were worse than we've seen them play in a good while.
Perhaps I'm the only one that thinks this.
Eagerly awaiting Dave's take on the final Irish turnover where DDA stands there like he has brain freeze and watches the ball get stolen.
Also, this little kick into the corner again handed possession back to the Irish from a great attacking position. Note how long he takes to make that decision and how for about a second you can see by his body language and facial expression that he has no clear instinct of what to do, and actually has to think about it.
The kick is now his go-to move when his instincts fail him. This has been pointed out before on numerous occasions. It's a reoccurring theme.
The only problem with our backline is the centres. And we have better. Which is what makes us so damn frustrating.
Mamparapower gives Ireland no credit. Ireland are now on 16 consequetive test wins. They have a great chance to beat the record of 18. Making them one of the outstanding test teams in history.
So we could have won but botched a few things - it only took a few things for us to lose.
Now all of a sudden it's a disaster, emotionally fragile mamparas through their toys out of tbe crib.
They trash the coach, the players and demand the Boks win everything. How absurd do you get. In what team sport anywhere does one nation win everything all the time. Pure nonsense.
Our RWC record is second to none but we will NEVER win all World Cups. We may still win this one.
No all the vitriol is simply because certain twits are emotionally immature and need a target to vent their frustrations. Something that Kiwi Hakwa pointed out. It is all so extreme it becomes hilarious seeing these half bakes go completely unhinged.
Now I am asked to believe it's because they are such great Bok supporters. Listen what they say about the Boks and their coach. Hahahahahaha. In the course of their uncontrollable meltdowns they give themselves away.
Bwahahahahahaha.
Disagree there was nothing on and his kick was a good one. Field position close to their line which PSDT fucked up by not rolling away
It was a good game, Boks were not at their best but that was down to the closeness of the teams. Had the Boks been on song those few opportunities I mentioned in the first half would have been taken - especially that ball to the head of Kolisi - fuck me it was an open line
Good call Beeno
No I think it to…DDA has had a plethora of chances for him to make decent impact as our 12. Everyone raves when he Crashes into other opponents killing the ball and any chances of scoring points….he did exactly the same against scotties…either hanging onto the ball to long, not offloading or we have him freeze and do nothing….how dumb can you be selecting this guy over and over again? Kriel makes a couple of tackles yes, but other than that he is not scoring points for us….Rassie is as stubborn as a mule with selections and it keeps on biting us in the ass….This is past frustrating…
SA were worse than we've seen them play in a good while.
Perhaps I'm the only one that thinks this.
We ran Ireland close with a poorly balanced side, hopeless place kicking and a high error rate.
The good news in that is, it can get a whole lot better.
The question is: will it?
Nah, Stav...for me an epic game is one with few errors, much better decision making and the best players for both sides on the field.
The only thing that worked badly for Ireland was their lineout.
For the Boks it was almost everything. Scrums, distribution, kicking, mauling, not rolling, decision making, fumbles and knocks...gosh the list goes on and on.
It was a good game. Nervy and with the occasional bit of great skill on display. But it was far from an epic match.
All the podcasters I watch were absolutely gushing after the game and it just didn't feel right. Like I said, had the Boks snuck past Ireland I'd have been happy but still miles away from the plaudits the game was gettting.
Ireland are a good team, and honestly, the way the Boks played, I would have expected a much bigger victory margin. Perhaps 15 points.
I thought we could win and now know we should have won.
Let the couda shoulda comments roll.
Beeno Drol, what is wrong with striving to be the best?? And off course I give credit to IRE! That is why I said we lost no excuses, because IRE are the better team. 7/1 split my ass it helped us nothing! You keep on selling your mediocrity and see where it takes you….Fact is right now, that the boks can only beat top teams sometimes and not on a more consistent basis like Ireland that’s on 16 straight wins…that is how you supposed to play and then you have the right to call yourself a great team! Don’t put words in my mouth and go sell your crazy drivel some place else pls.
As I have said before there are two Bok teams. The aggressive, want to compete, Boks that beat NZ and the safety first Boks that lost to Ireland.
The ‘we have exceeded our expectations’ Boks that demolished England in the WC final vs the ‘we have to beat Wales’ Boks in the semis.
A lot of this is just a manifestation of the Harrassmiss psyche. When the Boks play with hubris they are awesome….safety first and it’s a 50/50.
Mamparapower Ireland are having a very rare run with a very good team. This is possibly their best side ever and one thst we could have beaten.
No side wins all the time. After doing very well for some years the wee abs are not what they were.
To have a hissyfit and malign coach and staff after a very close loss like this which could have gone our way is just the action of a petulant child venting their frustration. Then worse you try to cover up your very childish behavior saying you only want the Boks to win all the time etc.
Bwahahahahaha. Instead of being a mampara how about growing up?
Ou mampara power striving for frot 5 status. 
I hope you not going to go on whining like some cry baby everytime the Boks lose a match. We have enough of these snowflakes posting here. They are an embarrassment.
Too many fake Bok supporters here making total twits of themselves. Hahahahahahaha.
Boks lose and a river of tears flows. Man up oaks, take on the chin, stiff upper lip what!
The worst part though is that it takes a Kiwi to point out the rediculous the behavior. Old Bok supporters would turn in their graves at the comments made by the fakes here.
So let's be clear. Allende is a good test center, Du Toit is a class loose. Malherbe is a solid tight head and Kolisi is a competent 6.
Rassie of course is a great rugby brain. One of our best coaches.
The Boks are a very good team and Bok supporters can be proud of them.
Suck it up snowflakes let the wailing begin. Hope the Kiwis are not following all this.
What you Erasmus apologists don’t get it is the critics on this Board actually have higher expectations for the Boks. We are critical because we know they can do better….with a dominant scrum and lineout against any opponent in this WC, we should win the damn thing.
Ireland was a manifestation of how we can snatch defeat from opportunity. By having three dithering loosies on the park, none of them playing to the ball. By not having a reliable kicker. By having a reserve hooker who clearly is going to struggle with throws.
These shortfalls are all due to arrogant decisions made by our coach. We have a problem at center as well….but instead of kicking on with Esterhuizen and Moodie after they had outplayed the All Blacks we revert to the dead heads.
So for me Ireland was just a series of frustrations. Seeing the small lock Dud Toit easily cleaned off every ball…seeing him dumped for no metres and no offloads is a frustration,
And then our rugby press and fans buy all this nonsense. Even the frigging lights are back.
It’s a joke.
For all the praise that the pundits are pouring over PSDT. How many games now has he been held up over the line or lost the ball in contact.
We had 8 opportunities where we were on their 5 meter line and every time our so called big forwards just got stripped from the ball. Only when Manie lobbed the ball wide that we got to score a try.
This is exactly what irelands do, but much smarter. When they do lob the ball wide, they score, as in the Hansen try.
Jessie did good work, but then threw a 50/50 pass into Kolisi, can't blame for that, but then maybe Kolisi should have secure the ball rather than camping over Kriel. So maybe it was kolisi fault for not being the first man to the ruck.
Willemse came in when he should have marked his man, fact.
Dud looked great in the first 20 minutes, loved the power runs but then got caught behind the gain line and broke down the entire backline play.
Kriel is also guilty of trying to beat his man and not linking with his outside backs.
When Kolbe, Arendse and Willemse did get the ball out wide, the broke the line at will. But our follow up was really poor.
RG broke the line, but we had no propers support runner.
The Irish compress in the midfield and when they break the line they have options for short passes
Man, we made school boy errors.
Far 2nd kick should have gone over, he was practicing those before the game and got them over. Saw a video of it. Libbok missing an easy 3 pointer and 2 points is 5 points that we wasted.
Wales destroyed Australia because they had two seasoned kickers that just kept converting their goals. If we did that we would have won.
We need to be at 80% success not at 10%
Nah Beeno Biscuits that is Drivel….just sucking up everything the Media is pumping…Agree Moz, Hubris is definitely what we need more off on a regular basis….there should be a better balance between Safety First and Aggressive attack, otherwise we play as seen, to conservative and it becomes a Arm wrestle.
The Boks were poor, but the Irish were far from their best. It apparent throughout that the Irish had another gear, whereas the Boks didn't. The Boks haven't looked able to elevate their play all season. When they got a few phases together we looked ragged and outclassed. The Boks had the kind of game they needed, making it a scrappy affair to rob the Irish of any rhythm. My precision was that the Irish wouldn't have the composure to ensure this; they proved me wrong. The Irish benefit not only from the result, but also the manner of victory in a game that can really scupper a good team in a knockout game. This is the very limit of what the Boks are able to do. That's the reality no one wants to accept.
We had 8 opportunities where we were on their 5 meter line and every time our so called big forwards just got stripped from the ball. Only when Manie lobbed the ball wide that we got to score a try.
Is the penny finally beginning to drop? The Boks don't have a power pack, and lose the battle on muscle on the line almost every game for several years now. The likes of Steph, Kolisi, Lood et al have never been physically dominant players, and have always committed more errors than positive contribution.
What you Erasmus apologists don’t get it is the critics on this Board actually have higher expectations for the Boks. We are critical because we know they can do better….with a dominant scrum and lineout against any opponent in this WC, we should win the damn thing.
LOL, I'll never accuse the English of being arrogant again! 
Poor sportsmanship to complain ad nauseum about your own team every single time they lose, never mind how good the opposition or close the margin...we even get petty complaints when winning...
I also felt we didn't pitch up 100% for the game...but that's BS...Ireland put us under immense pressure, while absorbing the pressure we exerted...good on them...not an epic performance by the Boks, but we were playing the best team on the planet and were in the game until the final whistle...most supporters would give up a lot to be able to say that about their teams...
Back in 2017 when we lost with cricket scores, I thought it was all over for my Bokke, we would never compete at the top again...I was wrong...Rassie and his team turned things around and built a team the whole country could be proud of...unfortunately there's always a few bitterballe who will never be satisfied...they manage to find something to complain about, even if we play well...well, sorry to be rude guys, you should all just bugger off and go and support another team...the Boks don't need the barrage of negativity...sies man!
In my opinion both teams played to the maximum of their abilities but Ireland were better. You can bang on all you like about the Boks being able to play better but that little word PRESSURE meant they simply couldn’t! Same reason that the Irish line out failed badly in the first half. Bok pressure gave them the yips!
There was nothing in it...it could have gone our way too...Ireland can have this one...I hope we can get past the quarters...we've got a good team, I hope we can make it count some...and maybe have our revenge if we can make it to the final.
Thanks, Stav. Much appreciated 
I thought it was a really good game, thoroughly enjoyed it, apart from those stupid lights again 
King how many times did Ireland score, how many times did the Boks score?
We stopped them as many times as they stopped us so I’m not sure what your point is
Are you now saying PSDT is weak and a crap player?
Draad makes some sense….he thought the Volk was done in 2017….then along came Sauron, he of the flashing lights, and bought 6 more years… so no more criticism.
Slight sticking point that the whole team pretty much retires after the WC… .but hey succession planning is just two words.
Duds forever!
Criticism is fine...it's not what some of you are doing...I can't stomach the constant negative BS...worse than Trad's hate posts.
When Rassie goes and the Sticks of this of this world take over...that's when it all goes really bad.
And you know the logic already. Instead of giving Ackerman or someone else with a proven record the job it'll be "Stick has been with the team, therefore it's only racists that don't want him as coach...plus BEE."
Probably Deon Davids...who wasn't doing a bad job at all with the last season in SR at the Kings.
When you win say little
when you lose say less.
Can we handle the French loosies ?
Ideally, I'd still go for the Ackerman/Swys combo, Draad.
They turned everybody inside out with Skosan, Mapoe, Combrink, and a featherweight pack while giving Faf and Jantjies the freedom to dictate terms.
With some of the talent we have now, damn we could have a great team with the right coaches.
But it won't happen. It'll be Kolisi as captain and Davids/Stick in charge.
To coach the Boks you should have a proven track record of coaching and being successful with a top tier union side. That's my opinion anyway.
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It was so tense watching it live - need to digest it properly a second time