So the AB team Eluckmiss played had the second worst record for all coaches who played 10 or more games. And of course the Aussie teams he faced were nothing like the Aussie teams of years gone by.

Still the NH is better. But were they? Neither France nor Ireland won a WC knockout game and the only team that did, England, did so against lowly Fiji… all the others, Wales , France and Ireland failed at the first hurdle.

By contrast White won his WC in one of  NZ’s best periods, under Henry. An 85% winning AB team vs Foster’s 70% winning team.

These are views you won’t get from the moronic rugby press, but  performances have to be judged against the opposition.

Hansen was the AB version of Fergie.

Razor is a beast but it's gonna take some doing to top Hansen.

Moz, I feel as though the Boks will properly test the ABs for the next decade. WC wins aside, it does feel as though in terms of cohesion, identity, and talent, we are hitting rich vein at the moment.

Combine that with the low level of competition that the AB clubs are exposed to, and it seems the Boks could very well be in the pound seat.

Regardless, I'd be happy for us to take a dip for a year or two, if it means that in the long run we draw the best out of these exciting backs we have.

Mozart

Have you got anything  to write about that does not represent an attack on Erasmus - you suffer from extreme  BS on the brain sickness - it is getting extremely boring.   

Mike its called Rassie Derangement Syndrome. RDS Very similar to TDS. The sick person gets detached from reality and fixates on somebody to vent their BS. No evidence or reason can get through to them.

Yes Plum we have a rebuilding phase but some very exciting players coming through.

Should ou Rassie lose a few tests expect he derranged mozzietard to be all over us like a nasty rash. What a fake Bok supporter this nutter is!

I thought the wee abs looked a very useful side in the RWC. Their forwards were better than usual. Scrum was very solid, they have some big lads.

Ou mozzietards has dug a deep hole for himself and is about to reach China. Hahahahahahahahahaha

If the oak had any sense he would just pipe down about Rassie. What happens if Rassie wins a third RWC. Doubtless the mampara will continue smearing Rassie and trying the demean his achievements. Mozzietard and Doos have very bad cases of RDS. In my view its terminal. 

Ian Foster on paper is certainly one of the worst, but the All Black pack has declined in talent.

Even towards the end of Steven Hansens tenure, the All Blacks became beatable as more teams were winning against them than ever before.

The form of the All Blacks in the last 5 years has been directly tied to Retalick. If he is fit and and inform, the All Black pack could always compete. Whitelock has also past his best, so the All Blacks need some new tight forwards,

Foster has always been average the AB’s can thank their lucky stars they have a class bunch of players on board

Their team now is as good as any they have ever had in some respects better like at lock, the Barrett brothers, Savea, Smith etc

Ireland and France are the best or close to the best they have ever been, same applies to Scotland, Italy, Fiji and Argentina.

England under Eddie Jones were very good and are now transitioning under Borthwick

And yes Mike is right - Moz your attempts to try discredit Rassie are reaching new lows.

Fact is Rassie is the best coach the Boks have ever had and one of the best coaches to have ever coached the game. A third WC win will cement him as the best coach ever - roll on next WC

Yes roll on and let’s hope for a final where one side isn’t playing half the match a man down.

Plum the transition to a different style will be tricky. The reflex will always be to go back to what has worked. The trick will be to maintain the skills we rediscovered under Eluckmiss…..defense in particular….and add new basics like offloading.

To me our biggest omissions are forward ball carrying, the downside of Dud Toit and fetching, another downside of Dud Toit and also Kolisi.

If we want to emulate Ireland’s game for example, having a more aggressive ball on the ground game and some forwards who can beat tackles will be essential.

I do think Ireland is the model. Not radical, still based on forward strengths. But with more backline innovation and way better forward handling.

If we can learn the Irish game plan with our superior athletes Bok rugby could genuinely become the best there is.

And the other side playing with a man down for 20 min including the last 10 and playing 78 min without a specialist hooker

I’ll say it now - Rassie being the genius coach that he is WILL win a 3rd WC in a row.

Why the fuck would we want to play like Ireland?

Ireland will tour in a few months and we will beat them 2-0 and you want to follow their model

The notion that we can’t offload is a joke - we just choose not to for obvious reasons and our forwards are better skilled than any Irish are.

PSDT is phenomenal and Kolisi is a class act

"Yes roll on and let’s hope for a final where one side isn’t playing half the match a man down."

Not our doing, and we've been on the opposite of the luck many times...we go t the job done...well done Team RassieBokke!

Squeaky Toy you are putting me off my Tapas

Can’t wait for the excuses after Rassie’s wins it for a 3rd time….

Geez Moz - Wagu yesterday tapas today

Are you trying to emulate me, Fat Dave?

I think I need some of that ice cream Dave. Still another meal tonight an athlete has to pace themself

Espresso martini ice cream would sort you out or maybe a salted caramel bourbon?

Test

There we go Moz

We need to get you on the advertising, Saffex. You know, seductively eating a spoonful of the stuff   

Is that your packaging Dave? If so, speaking as an old food industry guy,  I compliment you. Very upscale and I like  Panache as a Brand name.

Yeah Moz thanks that is our product and business name

The AB had very good Coaches….with higher win percentages, that we can only dream of…but Eventually Rassie did do what we all wished for ( Including the 3 Musketeers, you know who you are ) getting a proper Attack Coach and he is a Kiwi, even better :)….I will give Rassie Props for that…just give him the freedom he needs to operate….and on your Profile pic you don’t look fat Dave…but the pic does conveniently hide your Pudding cup :)

Oh no ! Don’t start the  David’s weight conversation again !!!