Ireland has shown

us two things which rendered the Bok gameplan toothless. Firstly they matched the Boks physically and secondly they neutralized the Bok rolling maul and scrum. Stampkar rugby was made to lay dead and buried like a balloon that had been pricked. Trouble with the Bok gameplan is in its simplicity, the opposition know what to expect and prepare accordingly. It's a gameplan that is sustained by fetchers and ball carriers and more of the same from a so called bomb squad after the break. There are no surprises in the Bok gameplan, it would be like telling the enemy what to expect prior to going to war. Without the indispensable Marks and to a lesser degree an ageing Vermeulen the gameplan was set for a fail. 

Sure we had our chances, it obviously didn't help that we failed to capitalize on our opportunities and congrats to the Ireland who were deserved winners but the game will always be remembered as one for us to lose.

Libbok is being held solely responsible as Bok fans turn to Pollack for salvation. I'm not convinced that Pollack is the answer, they are two very different players, one allows for expansive rugby the other for conservative rugby. I've just gone through how impotent our conservative rugby was rendered by Ireland and yet Bok fans are happy to go back to more of the same. Besides there are lots of unanswered questions surrounding Pollard, if I remember correctly he was a player in decline. 

Libbok's problem is easily fixed, get him a goal kicking doctor, a stamp of confidence from Rassie and surround him with the same runners and try scorers from the AB test, only then will the Boks have a balanced attack and a potent one to boot.

And suddenly the opposition's preparation becomes a head scratch.

"Libbok is being held solely responsible as Bok fans turn to Pollack for salvation."

Our Backline only function when our Pack has got the upper hand….as soon as they get put under pressure, there is not much answer on field besides just going again for a maul try from a line out. That was clearly seen against IRE we did not have much of a answer….we don’t have much in structured Backline attack moves or at least we do not see much of it implemented on field…..Rassies play book is thin and reverts mostly back to stampkar….although we manage to keep them close in score we don’t have the Ammunition to put them away….with Tassies coaching we are kind of 1 trick Ponies….

Erasmus’ strategy is a bit like a Pollock painting… randomly dribbled over the canvas. Never really much liked Pollock.

Keep slating Rassie let’s see what you all say when he masterminds another WC victory

I personally do not only blame Manie.

The decision to take those two long kicks is what lost us the game. Two massive shifts in momentum and totally deflated us.

Struggled for dominance and then when we got it we pissed it away because apparently Sauron thought Faf could slot two +50m kicks!?

Has anyone here ever seen Faf kick those over? I haven't.

And the word is that people at the game were watching the warm-up and our kickers were missing sitters.

It buys into the idea that Rassie wanted to play France instead.

It's either very crafty or extremely dumb.

Let's assume that Rassie was making the smart move and trying to throw the game...

Why shouldn't Ireland do something similar against Scotland?

I suppose there is their win streak that they may want to retain.

We contested the first few line outs then stopped

We took those kicks for poles instead of setting up mauls - something we always do

Was Rassie playing a crafty game

But what sort of game would that be ? 

I don't doubt that Saffex could be right concerning Rassie potentially playing a crafty game.

But lets be honest - He does not have think very hard to out do our idiot Foster.........

Foster is the 16th man for whoever the AB's are playing - This weekend it is Italy........  

We cannot wait for the complete restructure and Razor.

At least the AB's will become innovative again.........

it was a pool game and the Boks have been there before - Losing a pool game and still delivering.

They lost by 5 points to who they rate as the worlds number 1 team,

Quite frankly - I think the boks would have learned more from the game in the weekend than the Irish.

However - and Perhaps Saffex can shed light on this comment.

The Boks will miss Marx and they will need to adapt quickly.

My take is - If Marx had of been playing against Ireland - That 5 point loss is a margin that the Boks would have with out doubt turned around if Marx had of been on the field.

He provides so much power that his absence is missed.  

Dave if Pollard is not 100% fit and game ready the chances of Rassie winning another RWC are zero.

Yep we need a reliable kicker and Pollard is all we have

Sensible comment from Black and Red. The Bok forwards were on top in the second half. Poor goal kicking and bad calls by the ref cost a match we should have won. 

I agree Marx on the field would have also ensured the win. 

Some anti Rassie half bakes think the Irish attack was so good and we were so useless. Bwahahahaha. Yet each side scored 1 try via the backline.

We have not shown Ireland all we have by any means. 

What this match showed us is that Ireland are by no means unbeatable. 

Lots of very cheap shots denigrating the coach and certain players. 

Libbok's kicks were just off. I can see him making it as a kicker. I am sure there is enough expertise in the Bok coaching set up to help. It's not as if he doest hit the ball sweetly or thst his direction is much off. Libbok lin e kicking is excellent.

I think he could well surprise with his goal kicking. 

I think the only option we have is to start with Pollard, and then bring Libbok on in the 2nd half and shift Pollard to inside center. 

Libbok cannot be played against any serious opponent. He has proven beyond doubt that his attacking game is no better than that of Goosen, and the other facets of his game are not better. He is not test quality. It was very obvious from the start that this was going to be the case. 

Quite frankly - I think the boks would have learned more from the game in the weekend than the Irish.

What exactly? The Irish had one of their worse performances, and still outclassed the Boks for 80 minutes. The Irish can tighten up aspects of their game. As per the Boks, what are they going to do to show they have learned anything? Select Libbok, Fluff, Steph, Kolisi, Kits, Malherber, Damian? The powderpuff Bok pack was shown up at maul time, and they looked devoid of any ability to think on their feet. The Boks didn't just look the lesser team, they also looked stupid. Watch the game again, carefully this time, and you will see brain fart after brain fart. Without freely given space against a passive line, the Boks have nothing whatsoever. 

Yeah I think what we will see is Pollard starting at 10 and then the classy Libbok will come on at 10 with Pollard moving to 12 and de Allende to 13

I can see this being the way forward - makes perfect sense

I am supporting the boks in this world cup as my second team.

I am obviously an AB supporter but as previously stated we wil need to show alot of improvement in the next few weeks - I have no doubt that we can beat Italy and Ireland but at the moment - It depends on what AB team shows up and that is a major concern in itself.

I think the Boks have a lot of things right - As stated earlier I am concerned that they have lost Marx - We don't like to admit it but the reality is he is a top class hooker who brings alot of power to the bok forwards and it is noticeable when he is absent.

Rassie is a smart coach and I think the Boks have the power to beat France.  

Ireland showed how to play the referee

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/johnny-sexton-tells-referee-stop-27809435

Still think the RWC is wide open and any one of 4 sides could win.