Boks’ attack coach under Eluckmiss? Talk about a non job….I guess Tony will be teaching variations in the box kick.
Boks’ attack coach under Eluckmiss? Talk about a non job….I guess Tony will be teaching variations in the box kick.
He will be joining the number 1 side in the game - back to back WC winning side
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Who now apparently need an overseas attack coach…’gather round chaps there is this technique called an offload’
Is that Tony arriving?
What’s wrong with bringing in a Kiwi - he is replacing Felix Jones - hardly a Saffa now is he?
Flannery is replacing Neinaber
No coaching experience there other than Fourie with a bit at the Lions
If this is set to happen, then it’s good news….Tony Brown and Jerry Flannery will bring new Dimensions to our play if allowed to apply themselves properly…this is a positive step….will Duane still be involved? And will stick be assistant to Tony?
The Boks have been needing an attack coach for some time. We have all been calling for a specialist attack coach.
Stick is a transformational member who needs to prove he has a clue at lower levels of the game
South Africa produces coaches more suited to forward and defence play, with a few exceptions like Swyss Debriyn
'Brown is no stranger to South Africa. As a player, he represented both the Sharks and Stormers at Super Rugby level before he retired and started his coaching career.
Since then he has earned a reputation as an innovative attack coach, and he could bring a different dimension to the Springboks’ attacking play if he is appointed to their coaching staff.'
The fact s that Mozart is going of his trolley totally again. The fact si that SA played poor attacking play in all years since 1992 depends entirely ion penalty conversions. and they always struggled to score tries in that period scored tries and depends on penaltuy conversions only. The fact is that the onluy period when try scoring was regarded was in 1997 when Du Plessis put together a squad emphasizing try scoring as important and that squad was taken voer by Mallet. and used until 1999 when Mallett ahd to amke changes to teh squad and he failed in doing it.
The next effort came from White when he brought Eddie Jones on board in 2007 for the WC tournament and that did not help much - because the total emphasis ws on forward play and panelty klicking in that series.
A f ter that followed the dark days of De Villiers, Meyer and Coetzee as coaches with no ideas about attacking play.
Part of the problem was that the loosies were regarded as an extension of the Tight 5 and could never be participants in attacking play per se. Erasmus started towards a new approach and the loosies became more part of attacking play in 2018 and 2019, - but then things start going wrong again in 2022 nd 2023.
Brown is a better attacking coach than Jones used to be. The problem was that Jones operated from Dublin and his main task was to report on player performances in the case of Springboks and potential Springboks playing for NH clubs and keep contact with them. The appointment of Brown would bring back the Springboks attacking performances of 2018 and 2019.
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Brown was a fine attacking flyhalf in his day and now has a reputation as a great attack coach. Rassie looks to have made an astute choice.
Mozzie has his usual reflex action which is always anti Rassie.. Poor guy can't get over the fact Rassie rubbed his noze in it.
We have tremendous potential in our backline. We saw last year some brilliant tries etc. Hopefully Brown can help the Bok attack up a level.
I think Rassie winning a third consequetive RWC would see Mozzie having to be put in a straight jacket and taken off to the nearest loonie bin.
Good to see the Boks have finally recognised their shortcomings in back play and have come over to the good side Hasbeeno…..
Well if Brown helps us improve I will forgive the KBBS a lot but not all! 
Clearly we need Brown….we can’t rely on Pollard forever.
Scored more tries than France and England and the same against Ireland this WC and a packet full of tries against NZ at Twickers
There is fuck all wrong with our attack. Only rugby ignorance would tell you differently, the same ignorance that has a single player winning you matches in the ultimate team sport that is rugby
The Boks have shown good backline play over the years, but often this has been down to individual brilliance than structured planned team moves. For example Habana, Kolbe, Ardense etc.
Brown has some exciting talent to work with in Fassi , Kolbe, Arendse, Green, Am, Moodie, Willemse, David Kriel, Libbok, Sacha, Williams and Nohamba
So what exactly is Rassie alluding to when choosing an overseas backline coach as opposed to a local? The simple truth is that there isn't one good enough in his opinion.
And is he signaling a change of style and pattern of play? Obviously he knows that the RWC style of play hasn't worked in the RC and that it's a case of horses for courses, a square peg doesn't fit a round hole and that unlike the RWC the RC rewards the amount of tries scored with bonus points.
Rassie has moved in the right direction.
Not a bad call to bring Tony Brown into the coaching setup. Looking at how Japan did and continues to grow is a testament. That said, just hope Rassie doesn't follow other coaches by trying to be too smart. It will be really difficult to change the bok DNA when the entire team has a defensive mindset. We saw what happened to Coetzee when he wanted to be flashy.
That said, we have some amazing talented players. Would be great to unleash the likes of Willemse, Moodie, Arendse, Kolbe etc.
I agree with Dave, there has been nothing to wrong about our attacking play. Brown might be able to lift attack performance and if course as Bok supporter I hope he does.
I also trust our incredible defensive ability will not erode.
Mozzie is learning about how rugby is a team game and that a team can earn a scrum penalty which when converted wins a game. All Mozzie sees is the penalty conversion and not the precedents. (Bit like his absurd take on the Ukraine war. The loon thinks one fine day Putin woke up and decided out of the blue to send troops into Ukraine. The guy has lost his marbles or is lying) .
You would think all this is very obvious.
No I see the similar penalty the French forwards created….when Ramos missed. And I say to myself these teams created exactly the same opportunities, why did we win? And then, not being a stupid mong who can’t handle logic, it’s apparent to me the difference was our kicker made the penalty, theirs didn’t.
"I agree with Dave, there has been nothing to wrong about our attacking play. "
Thanks largely to moments of brilliance by individuals like Willemse, Kolbe, Arendse, Moodie and Willie.
...as opposed to cumulative backline combinations that spread the opposition thin.
Scotland - Manie's snipe no-look kick
Ireland - Nice set-move to put Kolbe in the corner
France - Arendse collects a loose ball
- DDA Scores at the end of a loose ball collection
- Kolbe Scores after PSDT pops Kriel a loose ball which is then grubbered to Kolbe
- Eben scores off of some forward dominance
England - RG Snymyan is put in after a lineout close to the English line
Those are all the tries we scored against good opposition in the WC.
Almost everything is the result of forward dominance and individual moments of brilliance.
Plum stop speaking crap - provide evidence of other sides using their back lines to spread the opposition thin
Of course I excluded the Romanian and Islander games from the above because they suck.
But when you look at the scores against good opposition...
7 tries;
2 Scored by forwards 3 Scored off of collecting loose balls 1 Set move scored by the backs 1 Scored from a direct kick collection
Those are the facts, Saffex.
When you look at the dominance our forwards manage, game after game, one would assume that our backs have one of the best platforms in rugby to express themselves of off.
But the our try scoring methods don't reflect that.
None of the tries we scored were the result of a back hitting a gap, being supported with a good running line and then scoring.
Our scores were all snipes, counters off of scraps, or forward dominance.
All saying is that a good attacking coach, and a bit more freedom, is very welcome.
We feast on their errors
Our pressure forces the errors.
Yep we've have a lekker offensive defence.
Our weapons of mass destruction is the scrum, penalties, lineout, penalties, rolling maul....penalties.
However, some of the weapons were neutralised and rendered ineffective it's only the scrum that proved effective.
The Boks don't score tries from set play for that we have to thank individual brilliance.
The sample size is 7 tries and you guys still can't see the wood for the trees.
Two of the loose ball collections were from high kicks and the resultant chaos. Literal luck of the bounce.
Kriel's jab to Kolbe was the only true error(a spilled ball) that we scored countering though pressure.
The rest were all forward tries and snipes.
So 14.29% of tries resulted from capitalising on forced errors.
...hardly bread and butter.
But Plum the opposition’s stats will be the same
Are they?
Because the very first game I watched in order to reply to this was the AB vs Ireland game.
The try the ABs scored...
ABs receive a long kick, run it out of their half, Barrett gathers his own chip, the backs are there immediately in support, the ball goes down the line and they score in the corner. Two phases of backline play and about 65m for the try.
So we know the ABs stats aren't the same.
And then I look at the Irish try in the same game...
Multiple phases, the backs spread the ball to both corners and eventually the best 12 in the game, Aki, gets through for a score.
So we know the Irish stats aren't the same either.
We have two tries, both created by the backs. Not sniping, no masses of forward dominance to get over the line. Just good clean outs and great phases strung together by the backs.
Shall I watch a Frecnch game to prove their stats aren't the same either?
Rugby is becoming like sailing where kiwis are playing key roles for other nations! It's a consequence of the professional international game. We will have to see if he's a good fit for the Boks.
Howzi JW...don't step innit!¡
Hi DB, all’s well, looking forward to the Kiwi rugby kick off later this month. We will have to see how Robertson does with the ABs. Super rugby isn’t the same without the SA teams but we will adjust.
Ja, I miss the S14...URC is not bad, but it's not the same... the conference system, post S14 killed SR.
The URC is breaking records and looking like it was a good move for rugby in general.
Viewership matched the Top 14 last year.
Meaning more money for our boys.
For many years I warned the hapless KBBS that their cheating refs and disadvataging South africa travel plus of course robbing South Africa blind financially would pone day come home to bite.
I suggested our future lay in the NH and so it has proved to be.
Now the said hapless KBBS are condemned to play the even more hapless Ozzzies. Sad state of affairs.
However, once the down under oaks have leaned their lesson maybe we can talk again. We of course must negotiate properly and ensure say 50 percent of the revenue and 60 percent of our matches to be played in South Africa.
Meanwhile lets enjoy the big bucks and better travel arrangements and far, far better refs. I am sure our players are very happy.
So lets hope Brown can offer something as an attack coach. Nice of the kiwis to help out like this.
Beeno, for years we have pointed out that the poor weee Boks have no imagination and can't for the life of them utilize the talents they have in the backs. You guys have finally admitted it and hired a Kiwi to help you out. No need to thank us, it's all in aid of a better style of rugby
Just win I refer you to the thrashing the Boks gave the wee abs in a warm up match to the RWC.
Thanks.
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As the new attack coach according to the Rapport
And Jerry Flannery the Irishman is set to be the Bok defence coach