Kolisi and Pollard talk about who are Boks most undervalued playets

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Feb 29, 2024, 14:05

Poor Mozzietard you have to feel a bit of sorrow for him, he just keeps getting it wrong and it's coming from Pollard. Hahahahahahaha.

Take a look


Boks most underrated players.


Feb 29, 2024, 14:23

‘We use him in a very specific way’…translation….we aren’t interested in creating space, offloading the ball, playing the wide channels, we need somebody who will make 2 meters a carry up the middle and not lose the ball.

Feb 29, 2024, 14:43

Mostert, Smith would be my most undervalued players without doubt.

Feb 29, 2024, 16:10

Mine as well. Faf is another candidate….I don’t like the box kicking, but his constant disrupting of the opposing scrummies pays dividends. 

Feb 29, 2024, 17:07

Ou mozzietard actually thinks he has a better understanding as to who is more undervalued that do Kolisi and Pollard. Pollard is a smart, experienced player and plays next to Allende so is well placed to assess the value Allende brings to the Boks.

I find his comments far more credible that ou Mozzzie

Allende has always been a competent test center and I am glad to see him get recognition from his captain and the flyhalf he has played so many test with.

Faf is also undervalued, talk about warrior spirit.

Feb 29, 2024, 17:49

So if you are playing next to a player and your captain has  just called him undervalued, what do you do……right, you agree..

Mar 01, 2024, 09:57

Malherbe for me - the unsung hero of that side

Yep Schalk Brits said exactly the same about DA - has a super skill set but plays to a plan

And boy that plan is working

Mostert is not underrated he is just shit

Mar 01, 2024, 10:49

Dda is not underrated he is overrated….he is strong and used as a battering ram….the skill set he used to have early Bok stormers days, has been coached out of him by the " Plan " ….maybe Brown can help Dda rekindle his Skills and help change the 1 point Gameplan.

Mar 01, 2024, 11:04

Malherbe is past it. He was not scrumming very well - at least for some time now. 
OX is the best scrumager - but I suppose he is not undervalued.

Jessie Kriel might get the tag of the most underated player. His defence is very good, and he did contribute on attack.


Mar 01, 2024, 11:25

Imagine being stupid enough to believe a skill set can be coached out of a player

This pathetic ignorant take on Rassie, the best coach we have ever had is fucking insulting

Only a fucking idiot would throw negatives at Rassie or have the ignorant view that we don’t play attacking rugby

Wake the fuck up we scored more tries, beat more defenders, made more clean breaks than any other sides in the 2019 WC and similar at this last WC

Mar 01, 2024, 13:07

I am afraid Dave some oaks just lack Rugby acumen. 

I forgot about Malherbe. The tight head position is crucial to the scrum and Malherbe stood up to everything throw at him. He also did his defensive work well.

Sharktwit is right about Jessie Kriel. He had a great RWC and silenced his many critics. 

All the players gave it their all in my opinion. The team spirit, never say die attitude was OUTSTANDING. Hats off to Rassie for bringing this dedication and will to win to such a high level. 

Mar 01, 2024, 13:49

"So if you are playing next to a player and your captain has  just called him undervalued, what do you do……right, you agree.."

You are misrepresenting Pollard’s respose, because you didn't like it and then you lable him a jabroer (yes man)...there was enough room for him to nominate someone else without embarrassing the captain, but yet he affirmed Kolisi's choice...clear as daylight...I too would like some more flair in the Bok backline , but DdA has been more than just a solid constant in a Bok team that's won back to back RWCs...he deserves some credit...the flack he takes from some on here is ridiculous. 

Mar 01, 2024, 14:03

Gosh Draad thanks for that. I was struggling to capture your posture succinctly….Jabroer is perfect.

I repeat, Dud Allende took us out of WC 2015 by failing to bring down Nonu and running next to him for 25 meters. He did exactly the same thing 8 years later running next to Mo’unga ceding a try which was disallowed.

He made exactly two substantive contributions….running over Biggar who stupidly tried to strip him in the Welsh 2019 test. And taking advantage of a lucky bounce against France this year.

That and a bunch of 2 meter stampkar runs are his WC  oeuvre. Incredibly overrated is the truth,

Mar 01, 2024, 14:20

Me a jabroer? That's a BIG lie...Pinocchio will be envious. :D

...as for DdA...no superstar, but not as k@k as you make him out to be...similar to AA...solid, but no Gerber or Jean.

Mar 01, 2024, 14:28

 Another Mozart lie is obviously what Mozart is capable of.   He lied about what happened in the 2015 semi - and what he said was disputed by everybody in the rugby world - but Mozart keeps repeating it.    

Mar 01, 2024, 20:43

Blaming the impressive DA for our WC exit is insulting and laughable

He was 12 of the WC in 2019 and pretty damn close in 2023

DA is and always has been a class act playing to a plan

You stop DA you stop the Boks according to Will Greenwood

He is spot on

Mar 01, 2024, 21:45

Well then we have been stopped a lot Dud has one of the lowest meters per carry stats. The difference between Dud and Esterhozen is Andre is creative, Dud is all process.

Mar 01, 2024, 22:03

Wrong DA carries in traffic and makes metres as he is so damn powerful. He is the best in the game at taking it up in traffic and that’s why the Boks are tops - he sets up phases drawing defenders in

Its that same power that sees him clock the most dominant tackles by any back playing the game in 2023

DA is unstoppable in traffic

You can’t begin to compare him with Esterhuizen as Esterhuizen does not have enough tests behind him to merit any true evaluation

It’s testament to how good DA is that he has kept the impressive Esterhuizen out of the starting side for so long

He is going to be a massive loss when he stops playing for the Boks

Mar 01, 2024, 22:47

You have your views…I see a player who takes the ball up at half pace, but is hard to pull down. Nothing ever comes from his runs, he never offloads, he rarely makes a clean break.

He is easily bamboozled on defense and taking a page out of your book, I don’t believe those dominant stats. In fact I can’t recall one big hit he has made his whole career..,,cling and at best push.

When he is gone the biggest impediment to the Boks playing creative rugby will be removed.

Mar 01, 2024, 23:21

Geez Moz his strength is his strength he is not there to make clean breaks as very few centres do as there is limited opportunity to so in test rugby - it’s the very reason every test side bar possibly the AB’s that have a big bruiser at 12.

Rassie recognised this fact ages ago hence the investment in DA. He is literally a physical freak - when he takes contact he carries defenders, setting up the next phase in the process. The art of taking contact draws defenders in. You don’t offload as that takes the phase set up out of the equation.

Do you guys not get this? It’s the plan - take contact breach the advantage line and set up the next phase. It’s what he is instructed to do, it’s the plan. But obviously when the opportunity presents itself he attacks - we have seen steps, good lines, the works

I fully get DA and what he does, I fully get that there is no space in test rugby for centres to dazzle - those days are gone. I fully get why Rassie has invested in him as he is so good at taking it up.

I rate DA highly and that is not going to change and I’m glad Rassie has shown faith in him just like he has in Am over Kriel - they are a perfect match - DA the brawn, Am the brains and silk

Mar 02, 2024, 03:22

Saffex. All three the final games of the WC, and the Irish and Scotty games are up on the net.

"Wrong DA carries in traffic and makes metres as he is so damn powerful. He is the best in the game at taking it up in traffic and that’s why the Boks are tops - he sets up phases drawing defenders in"

All we ask for evidence...

Post the video and the time stamps. Show us what you are talking about above.

The truth is DDA is hardly ever given the ball. That's why he is almost never involved in any play that results in a try. I posted a video here recently that showed all the tries since the previous WC...and the ball hardly ever went through DDA's hands for any tries.

When there is an attacking move, DDA is almost always completely cut out with a skip pass or other movement.

The Boks don't trust DDA on attack. And I don't blame them.

He's just there to ruck in midfield.

Mar 03, 2024, 11:17

Plum I personally have seen Allende making good hard yards in heavy traffic many, many times. Its astonishing you have not noticed this.

Enjoy this = 

Mar 03, 2024, 11:19

Here is another video about the powerful Allende

Mar 03, 2024, 11:21

Bye the way oaks do notice the pace Allende has and the passing skills.

Those undervaluing Allende clear lack rugby acumen. 

Mar 03, 2024, 11:33

two years ago:

Mar 03, 2024, 11:37

They say prejudice blinds. Those smearing Allende cant recall him making ground in heavy traffic, he cant ball the ball, has no skills etc Why would they say things so obviously wrong. Because they block out any good play that Allende comes up with.

I do hope these three clips educate the Allende bashers and cause them to ask themselves how they got it so hopelessly wrong.

Beeno at your service as always!:angel:




Mar 03, 2024, 12:58

FFS Plum he has a whole career of test matches and is certainly not defined by 3 or 4 games

There are a few things you could challenge on when it comes to DA but one you can’t is his power and to say he is hardly given the ball is the biggest load of shit I have ever read as is him not breaking the advantage line when he does

Fuck me let’s face it Rassie is not rugby ignorant so if has invested in DA for as long as he has - what’s it for - his creativity? No it’s the physical impact he makes with ball in hand and in defence - hence most dominant tackles by a back for the year 2023

I’m surely not going to go watch every game just to time stamp his carries. I’m not wasting my time on such ignorance I’d rather watch paint dry to be honest

Mar 03, 2024, 14:18

Delande is solid- but I think Esterhuizen should have been given more game time.
They are both good at carrying the ball up, but Esterhuizen is the better playmaker.


Mar 03, 2024, 16:40

Saffex.

The DDA argument is a slippery one.

I'll say that he is involved in proportionally too few scores, and you you'll say that's not true.

Then I'll post a video that covers all the tries the Boks for a period of 6 years, demonstrating my point.

Then you'll say that his role isn't to make tries. You'll say that he's there to carry up in midfield.

Then I'll post his stats and more videos showing that he doesn't carry the ball up more solidly than any number of 12s on the international scene.

Then you'll elude to some abstract idea about other people's opinions of him and how there is some mystical quality that he has that. A quality us mortals just aren't smart enough to understand, but that Rassie gets.

Round and round we go.

Mar 03, 2024, 16:48

Beeno...I only watched that last clip. My word man. Is that really the best 12 in the game?

Highlights from Irish club games?

That all looks big ordinary to me. He still loves a crab run. Unless he cuts inside, he simply will never run straight when there is space. Always reduces the special advantage for the players outside him. He does it numerous times in that very clip.

And what none of these clips show you is the insane amount of brain freezes he has. The countless occasions where he seems incapable of running a support line. The bad decisions.

Mar 03, 2024, 17:15

Don’t lie you won’t be posting everything covering 6 years what crap

And nor will you be providing 6 years of evidence of him being ineffectual in his carries

So explain to me then - why does the ignorant and stupid Rassie keep selecting him is it for his creativity, his stepping, his offloading, his persistence ability to attack space huh?

Why does he select him?

Just as much as I’m not going to sit through years of coverage to prove his carries in traffic are effective nor will you be providing evidence of the opposite

I don’t need video coverage to prove to me or you that DA’s primary role is to carry in traffic and I’m certainly not stupid enough to believe the very astute Rassie would pick him for the past 6 years if he was ineffectual in that role - blindingly fucking obvious

Mar 03, 2024, 19:19

You need to stop the hypocrisy of claiming Rassie is a genius and the fact he selects DDA validates him.

...BECAUSE HE ALSO SELECTS MOSTERT!!!

So you have to decide, either selecting a player does or doesn't validate him. You can't have it both ways.

Let me know what you decide.

Mar 03, 2024, 20:00

AE should be included in the bomb squad.

Mar 03, 2024, 20:55

Plumster you asked for examples. Look at the first two clips. 

You would be going on so ignorantly had you actually looked at the evidence presented. You might note that these clips include internationals.

Educate yourself. Then comment. The wise approach. 

Mar 03, 2024, 23:48

Does Rassie select Mostert as his first choice lock - NO

There is your answer

And please don’t ask me to validate that and therein lies your error

Hypocrisy my arse

Mar 04, 2024, 01:25

https://www.facebook.com/rugbyworldcup/videos/barrett-scores-crucial-try-v-springboks/10153745407837174/

The Barrett try to win the WC semi. Allende is 5 meters behind Pollard and actually outside his direct opponent. …his direct opponent is inside him and deep.. JP is marking Barrett.

Dud is hopelessly out of position, the inside backs have come up, he is way behind. But instead of showing urgency to bring down Umaga he is at half pace initially allowing  him to run 25 meters. He even bites on Nonu’s slow down fake, slowing down himself, instead of going in to make the tackle. JP  is forced to come inside to counter the direct try threat. An easy pass to Barrett and bye bye WC.

It’s all there to see…Dud’s man makes the break that wins the semi and likely the WC because of Dud’s poor positioning and lack of commitment.

Mar 04, 2024, 06:07

Nonu Moz??

Mar 04, 2024, 10:38

Blaming DA for that try is insulting just as I envisaged before I even watched the clip. It’s the usual biased bullshit

The only reason that try was scored was thanks to Schalk conceding possession in contact

Mar 04, 2024, 10:57

It was the mistake of Schalk losing possession and Dda in not making that tackle sooner, which gave Nonu enough time to sent Barrett of for the try.

Mar 04, 2024, 11:20

How was DA going to make the tackle sooner?

Mar 04, 2024, 11:26

Mozart bragged about one thing  - he said he never see anything  good in rugby by his pet hate players.  He never sees that De Allende when being tackled does not lose balls and it always comes back to the Springboks to continue attacks - he never sees De Allende protecting the ball at breakdowns - he never sees anything positive in anything D ev  Allende does.   He never sees anything  he does not want to see.  A  sure recipe for BS writing on site.     

Mar 04, 2024, 11:32

By running a more straight line to Nonu and committing in making the tackle….he rather chose to ran next to him and only at the end when it was to late, you see Dda on Nonu,s back.

Mar 04, 2024, 11:53

Oh boy so you missed Nonu’s in out before DA could get anywhere near him

You guys don’t understand the finer points or the art of rugby at all.

Here is a lesson for you. Nonu is renowned for stepping - so if he does an in, it’s either going to be an inside step or an in out, feigning an inside step and instead going out, which is what he does.

So if DA is going to rush out and take the line you want him to, Nonu steps him inside. As a centre defending you have to cover both options. The in out means you have to pause, it’s why attackers use the in out and something Nonu was brilliant at.

Mar 04, 2024, 12:02

No I saw the stepping and Nonu was brilliant I agree, but if Dda run a more direct route to Nonu, not holding back himself, he might have had a better chance in tackling him when it mattered.

Mar 04, 2024, 12:07

Nonu started off running  across the field and there was no way De A llende culd prevent him from doing  it.   Rushing up to try to prevent Nonu from doing what you want would have created a gasp meters wide.    Mozart initially lied and claimed De Allende did not tackle Nonu - but he did.  

The Rush-up system never works -  here is an example - In the 2013 test against the A B's the aB's scored a try - basically as a result of  Dev Villiers rushing up out of line - expecting Morne to maka tackle - but all Morne did was to slap the A B on his back and wish him well on his way to score and Engelbrecht who were far to late to stop the try.      

In any event back to the incident Mozart  liedf about.   If somebody was at fault in  that case it was Pietersen who ended up doing nothing and not covering Barrett allowing him an open run to the try-line.       

Mar 04, 2024, 14:30

Dud’s first mistake was he was too deep at least a meter and a half behind Pollard. His second mistake was he never accelerated immediately, he was trotting. Then he finally started sprinting but instead of going into the tackle he got ‘stood up’ by Nonu’s fake.

The amazing thing is if you watch the top down video he was actually outside Nonu at the start and Nonu  ended up rounding him. That shows how slowly he reacted.

Nonu was never going to step Dud Dave….he was flanking him on the outside. No way to step him given their body positions. There Dave there’s a finer point for you.

Dud was confused and made three mental errors in 5 seconds to take us out the WC.

Mar 04, 2024, 14:34

Thanks for the heads up Moolaa….haha, kind of devalues one’s point if you can’t even name the AB that shredded Dud.

Mar 04, 2024, 14:49

How did he shred De Allende BSter    Rushing up defence out of line  is disastrous.   Nonu was trying  to get away from De Allende by running cross-field and was caught in the end by following  he was not running beside Nonu he was running at  angle to tackle him.   

However - dim fool - that was one incident 89 years ago and for you to bring up that incident and initially lied about it just is what you specialize in.   I asked  you why no other commentator came up with  the BS you  came up with and no expert came up with  it either - you said   you are the leading expert on RUGBY in the world.   It was obviously seriously funny when y ou - with prejudice and idiocy on rugby issues can come up with.    Hilariously funny.           

Mar 04, 2024, 14:49

How did he shred De Allende BSter    Rushing up defence out of line  is disastrous.   Nonu was trying  to get away from De Allende by running cross-field and was caught in the end by following  he was not running beside Nonu he was running at  angle to tackle him.   

However - dim fool - that was one incident 89 years ago and for you to bring up that incident and initially lied about it just is what you specialize in.   I asked  you why no other commentator came up with  the BS you  came up with and no expert came up with  it either - you said   you are the leading expert on RUGBY in the world.   It was obviously seriously funny when y ou - with prejudice and idiocy on rugby issues can come up with.    Hilariously funny.           

Mar 04, 2024, 14:58

He didn’t need to rush up….he just needed to hold the defensive line with Pollard.  But given he was incorrectly positioned and slow to react, he did have to rush to reach Nonu who was threatening to cross the line unopposed.

A catastrophic  defensive mistake he repeated with Mo’unga at WC 2023. 

Mar 04, 2024, 15:06

Nobody can discuss anything  about aa rugby idiot who claims he is the top expert of ruigby performnce analysis in the world and routinely lie about incidents on rugby.    Where does ruby centers line up anyway - always slightly behind the flyhalf - never before him.   Dimness a  meter nearer would not stop Nonu from running  across the field like he did.       

Anyway we had shit as a coach in 2015 and  Matfield - who was useless as well losing his first line-out when he came on a a replacment  and causing a penalty turnover - which would have put the Springboks in a real possible winning situation. 

Nearly 9 years later and we have the top coach in the world and won the WC twice in succession and you keep moaning about an incident at least 8 years ago - what a fool you are.   

  

Mar 04, 2024, 15:09

What part of if he had shot out directly, Nonu would have stepped inside do you not get

Blaming DA is not only ignorant it’s childish

Two things happened - Schalk fucked up completely by conceding possession and Nonu executed a great in out to cause DA to pause. Of course DA is not going at full tilt for had he, Nonu would have stepped him

As per usual the take on DA is utter bullshit and more than anything it displays rugby ignorance

Schalk is to blame for that try and that’s a fact. He retains possession like he should have and we clear the ball

Mar 04, 2024, 15:09

De Alende was involved in the ruck just prior to that move...there might not have been enough to get back wide to the proper defensive position.

Mar 04, 2024, 15:34

Draad it will always be big bad DA’s fault

Taken with a pinch of salt

Mar 04, 2024, 16:08

Nope…go to minute 0.55….draw a line through Pollard to JP it’s dead straight. Dud is two strides behind that line….there’s your opening.

And nope he was at, but not involved in the ruck. And the ABs moved to the right before coming back to the left. He had plenty of time. Proven by the fact that he was actually outside Nonu when he started his trot forward.

If you think that a center cant be blamed for not defending his direct opponent …if you think the right point of contact is behind the defender….then Dud is not to blame. Which of course means the position Nonu found himself in was a sure try.

But if you think Dud should have been within two strides of Nonu when he got the ball and ceded no space towards the line…then Dud’s ineffective defense took us out the WC.

Mar 04, 2024, 16:43

Bullshit what took us out the WC was Schalk conceding possession on our line

Nonu effected a perfect in out, if you don’t know the effects of this you don’t know rugby

But fact is regardless of this - Schalk cost us the game - fact.

Mar 04, 2024, 17:00

Ever heard of being married to an idea?

Here, watch this...

Saffex, name 3 times that DDA screwed up.

To everyone else...can you hear those wedding bells?

Mar 04, 2024, 17:08

Big fat fucking YAWN

Mar 04, 2024, 17:18

Do you know what being married to an idea means, Saffex?

At some point you become too proud to admit you were wrong and too lazy to deal with the fallout.

So you stay in that toxic relationship for far too long hahah

Mar 04, 2024, 17:42

I’m about as wrong about DA as Rassie is

Mar 04, 2024, 18:04

I’m a huge Schalk fan, but I can admit his fumble was a big part of the AB try….the other part was Dud Allende blew the coverage. I wonder why Dud fans can’t admit that. I’m guessing because the Dud case is so  bereft of any tangible positives, there isn’t room for any negatives.

Mar 04, 2024, 18:12

I don’t need to admit it I can see exactly what happened - Nonu’s in out had the desired effect - it often does

Dweba on Fassi the other day

Mar 04, 2024, 18:27

Hahaha….classical Dave harping on the in/out, whereas Nonu had run 20 metres before the in/out. And it wasn’t an in/out. It was a slow down and an acceleration. He never changed his angle through the whole run.

Mar 04, 2024, 18:43

It was an in out I’ve just double checked

JP fucks up by coming in - had he kept his line there was no try as DA got Nonu

Mar 04, 2024, 19:13

He just made a step faking it, he never changed his angle. A step would have made the tackle easier. And JP who was on Barrett cut off the pass by coming in…trouble was Dud never made the tackle. There was also the risk of Nonu beating Dud to the line.

It’s amazing how little analysis of these things take place in rugby. In American football they would have identified Dud’s horrendous positioning and slow reactions as the problem.

Mar 04, 2024, 19:21

Mozart

I have to tell you one terribly story about De Allende - in the 2015 RWC test De Allennde made a hard  tackle of  Nonu that caused  a serious injury and had to leave the field.    Not surprisingly   that instead of carrying  the ball forward Nonu did the expected - he ran across the field in a desperate effort to avoid another De Allende tackle.

So we have 3 reasons for the try -

1     Burger lost the ball forward in a tackle that led to the attack by the AB's;

2     Pietersen who instead of covering Barrett stood around and did nothing to prevent the Barrett try.

3     De Allende

I believe 1 started the problem and 2 completed it.  Most to blame was 2      

  

Mar 04, 2024, 20:26

Mike, you can’t blame Petersen. It was DDA getting beaten by Nonu that forced him to have to try and cover both him and Barrett! He was in a no win 2 on 1 situation due to DDA’s lack of pace and indecision. This is all academic anyway as the ABs were far superior in that game. From memory the Boks only got within 10m of the AB line once in the entire game!

Mar 04, 2024, 20:29

It's the same as the when DDA hugged the English player and basically just allowed him over the line.

He ran next to him for a while then hugged him a bit, and at no point looked like actually stopping his man. This was after Pollard had already stifled most of his momentum.

Or when DDA chooses to kick when he has a 3 man overlap.

Or the countless occasions where he totally stifles momentum and dies with the ball.

Willemse's reaction in the Irish game tells you exactly what the story is. He was absolutely livid that DDA ruined another clear try scoring chance in a very tight game. It was a type of letting out of frustration that says Willemse expects DDA to fuck up and can't stand it.

None of these things are a mystery to anyone that isn't completely biased.

Mar 04, 2024, 20:49

Wrong he changes his angle slightly which is what the in out is about.

DA makes the tackle but JP who should have stayed wide to cover Barrett, cuts in leaving Barrett open to receive the pass from Nonu to score

So had Schalk not fucked up and had JP stayed wide - no try would have been scored - so blaming DA as I said is complete rugby ignorance

Mar 04, 2024, 20:52

Bullshit Moola DA tackles Nonu - he is going nowhere so JP made the error cutting in. JP stays wide he tackles Barrett with DA having tackled Nonu - no try

Blatantly obvious

Mar 04, 2024, 21:12

Everyone is wrong...everyone but Dave.

Mar 04, 2024, 21:32

Ok Plum so given DA tackles Nonu and Barrett scores, how is DA to blame given JP was originally covering Barrett?

I’m all ears

Mar 04, 2024, 22:12

Nonu slows up to connect with Barrett. He could have probably scored the try, Dud had put himself in the position of tackling from behind.  That’s why JP had to come in. His blocking of Nonu’s path was the only prudent thing to do. Dud couldn’t even make a smother tackle from behind.

It’s incredible really Dud’s direct opponent in a one on one situation makes 25 metres inside the 22 and according to Dave and his moronic  supporter, he has no culpability .

It’s a strange, strange game they watch Master Jack.

Mar 04, 2024, 22:34

No Nonu could not score as DA got him down - that’s a fact. Credit to Nonu for the in out but given DA got him down there was no reason for JP to cut in leaving Barrett open to receive the pass and score

Given Schalk, DA and JP were involved one would have to conclude culpability was in the order of Schalk, JP then DA

Schalk and JP made errors, DA was slightly thrown by the in out by Nonu but still got him down.

To blame DA for our WC exit is just plain childish

Mar 04, 2024, 22:39

JP had cut in way earlier because it wasn’t clear Dud would make the tackle. That opened up the pass, which Nonu made….slowing down slightly. Given he could easily have reached the 2.5 meter line with the pass…if he just goes flat out Dud never gets him…too slow as Moolaa said.

The real problem you don’t want to admit is Dud was way out of position.

Mar 04, 2024, 23:26

Mostert would've nailed Ma'a'aa  .................... nay bother:angel:

Mar 04, 2024, 23:41

Think the Nonu thing is an aberration? Watch minute 10.20 to see Mo’unga pull an eerily similar fake on Dud….leaving him behind and gifting Smith a try which was called back, apparently incorrectly 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrQh9HCCvNQ

Mar 04, 2024, 23:41

Bullshit DA was not out of position, Nonu’s in out checked DA but he still got Nonu

JP fucked up by leaving Barrett open to score

Those are the facts - just as it’s a fact Schalk fucked up by conceding possession

The real issue here is your claim that DA was responsible for our WC exit - that my friend is utter bullshit and having heard the facts here - you will now know it

DA ranks 3rd in culpability after JP and Schalk and that’s a fact

This take on DA is as ignorant as any other on him by you and the likes of Plum

It’s all a load of crap but thankfully Rassie sees it the way I do

Mar 04, 2024, 23:48

DA was not out of position 2 metres behind the line through Pollard and JP? Desperate stuff Dave….watch Mo’unga putting the same move on him, only worse in the video above.

Schalk was stripped it happens, I have seen Etzebeth being stripped…but he was culpable. JP came inside to stop Nonu running it in….his position on Nonu’s path forced the pass. He was not culpable.

Dud has to be able to mark his man in the 22. And he should never let his man take the outside gap, you learn that as an Under 13 center….there’s cover inside, the outside gap is fatal. He was most culpable.

And he repeated his act in 2023 with Mo’unga, rescued by an incorrect TMO intervention.


Mar 05, 2024, 05:25

First it was one meter - now it is 2 meters. Same first De Allende did not tackle Nonu - then it waa  I never wrote that.   Are you becoming like Biden suffering from dementia?    

Mar 05, 2024, 08:47

Just as ou Mozzietard has waged a smear campaign against Rassie which has backfired on the buffoon in a spectacular fashion so too this perverse  twit has waged a campaign against Allende for many years now. Same as he has waged a camping against Du Toit.

The bigot has his pet hates and delights in going after these Boks day after day. 

He will never understand that one incident cant contribute to a loss. There are many factors that contribute to a loss in a TEAM sport like rugby.

You will not ou Mozzzietard never says a word about Matfield giving away a stupid penalty will according to his criteria cost us a spot in the RWC final. Reason - Matfiled was a great favourite of his! .

In this incident it is clear poor mozzietard is gunning for Allende AGAIN. But very clearly the facts again don't bear him out. Bwahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

Another dismal performance from poor mozzzie


Mar 05, 2024, 11:30

Moz so DA who makes the tackle on Nonu is culpable, while JP who cuts in leaving Barret open to score the try is not?

Wow good thing you never pursued a career in law

Mar 05, 2024, 13:45

No I just had the legal departments of major companies reporting to me. Back to the substance….was the Mo’unga incident also not Dud’s fault?

Mar 05, 2024, 13:52

When was that Mozart? Before  you became dementia Mozart.   You are a bloody idiot  because in your view everyone is wrong  and  you are correct - while the exact opposite is true.     

Mar 05, 2024, 14:05

Yes well before, when I was 36 years old…you are losing the plot Wanker, stick to the subject. Your personal attacks are nasty and boring, try a bit of humor.

Mar 05, 2024, 15:07

Well the Fact is that everyone in the team and even Rassie admits, that they use Dda for a certain purpose….that up till now slots in with the Plan…Now Rassie is mixing things up as he saw that more is needed in our attack using our possession better ( not only counter attack) ….this might mean that a different player then Dud will be needed in the 12 channel to adapt better to Brown,s input.

Mar 05, 2024, 19:42

If I recall correctly DA was culpable when it came to Mo’unga but he was definitely not when it came to Nonu

Mar 06, 2024, 01:15

To me they are similar, but let’s agree to disagree. 

 
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