Disappointing read, I thought Kolisi was going to offer drain cleaning tips.
Disappointing read, I thought Kolisi was going to offer drain cleaning tips.
That’s RG’s domain
S9 here we have some thinking Rassie could be the greatest coach ever but Mozzie and Doos think he is useless.
Mozzie and Doos are obviously way, way out blinded by the bigotry.
Rassie has to rank amongst the best now surely.
Very humble by Kolisi, to say that he gets subbed early for not playing well- only for Kwagga to come on and win the game.
One of Rassies positives is his ability to motivate and dealing with his players on a personal level….but his forte, besides that, is his forward mindset…when it comes to our Backline, he is not the man for that….and I think this is what Moz and Deus highlights….if Brown does get signed and is giving the freedom to apply himself, it will make us stronger.
Well I think that pretty much proves the point that Kolisi is half a player….nice chap though.
Kolisi is a class act who starts because Rassie is astute enough to know that Kwagga has never been impactful as a starter at test level.
Completely different players - the bigger physical Kolisi starts with a view to softening up the opposition, leaving Kwagga to do his 7’s thing when the initial physical damage has been done.
Makes perfect sense
Kolisi softening up the opposition…..waaaaahaha. You have surpassed your former BS record with that gem. A class act who is subbed so the Boks can win….confirmed by Kolisi himself.
Mpower stop speaking utter shit - there is absolutely nothing wrong with our backline play
We scored more tries than our opponents in the WC and our backline was on fire against the AB’s at Twickers
This notion that we are forward based is ignorant bullshit
I never said that our Backline is useless…but adding more attack skill to our Backline play ( and we do have the Runners for that ) can not hurt at all…Most tries were scored against the lesser teams…against France we did well in scoring tries, but our defence let us down a bit…you can really not say that most of our tries is scored of innovative Backline play….yes it does happen, but predominantly it’s of forward play…driving mall from line outs, using the Forwards from rucks to get closer to opponents line and Bashing over….with who? Our forwards….we tend more often to form rucks and driving mauls to score….adding more sharpness to our attack, is a good thing….and it looks like Rassie is seeing it to….no wonder he wants a Kiwi like Brown : )
We are forward and Pollard based.
Bullshit
Nope…the truth. The best stat for backlines effectiveness is defenders beaten. Here’s the scoop for the starting backlines in our key WC games:
Ireland 15/Boks 15
France 27/Boks 9
England 7/Boks 8
New Zealand 26/Boks 8
Total: Opponents 75/Boks 40
Our back line, despite huge amounts of great ball, was constantly outperformed or held to parity. Hell even toothless England almost matched us.
And if you believe our defense was better than our opponents….the miserable attacking production of our back line is even more pathetic. We simply have no way of attacking except from turnover ball.
Eluckmiss has coached the most sterile unattractive Bok rugby since readmission….bailed out by the strength of our forwards, Nienaber a defensive genius and the unerring boot of Handre Pollard. There now you can see it right in the numbers.
Oh what nonsense - defenders beaten is no measure of attacking backline play it’s an individual stat - a measure of an individual’s performance
No ways did the French backs beat 27 defenders vs the Boks 9 - those stats are bullshit much like those saying Mostert never missed a tackle
The Bok backs were no worse or better than their opponents this WC
Imagine believing the likes of Danty and Fickou out played or Bok centre pair or that Barrett and Ione did the same or that Kolbe and Arendse were outplayed by their opponents, same applies to Faf, Pollard, Libbok and Willemse
It’s rubbish - never happened
Rassie is a brilliant all round coach - the only time he played the crash/ bash kick and chase was post Covid as he worked out that without game time it had to be kept simple.
We played good attacking rugby on our last EOYT culminating in that awesome performance against NZ at Twickers
Well I expected the usual denials…but we were also bested 15 clean breaks to 11 in those games. I suppose clean breaks don’t count either. We actually have great individuals, but no backline cohesion. Just endless Faff box kicks and Dud Allende charging into the first object he sees.
Yes clean breaks are no different to defenders beaten - it’s an individual measure
As I said not one single backline we played. against out performed our backs as a unit or individually
It’s just bullshit - but feel free to prove me wrong with actual footage of all this better creative backline play
Clean breaks aren’t a measure of backline performance….sure Dave. But if you want to watch what a real backline does, watch how Mo’unga freezes Dud Allende and creates the ‘try’ called back because of a prior knock on.
The demented mozzitard continues his efforts to diminish the Boks in the hopes of diminishing Rassie. Years of effort in this regard have come to nothing except diminishing his own credibility!
Its has become a serious obsession with the poor oak.
Anybody with eyes in his head knows the Bok backline is today a good attacking force. Also brilliant defensively.
If and Mozart but it mean unlimited hatred of Erasmus and some players. So easy to find a topic to lie about a break where nothing happened because the was a prior knock-on by the AB's and there was an A B knock-on before the so-called line break. Easy one - so lets go back to h si much praised White Spring bok eng land final in the 2007 final. After missing three other tackles Steyn missed an easy tackle where the English youngster ran straight through a tackle attempt leading to the near scoring of a try by England. Was White or Steyn ever blamed for that one by anybody.
This reminds me about a string of outright lies by Mozart on De Allende in the 2019 final where eh created a try-scoring opportunity that never existed and blamed De Allende for the failure. Analysis of the incident showed Le Roux gaining 8 metes carrying the ball and De Allende's contribution was to prevent a turnover of possession at the breakdown. where the Springboks due to De Allende retained possession. Whatsoever Mozart ever comes up as to incidents in matches are standard BS he thinks up himself and then write saga on site telling us lies he invented himself. .
That was a one on one poor defensive laps by an individual nothing to do with creative backline play
I’m a huge DA fan and defend all the utter rubbish thrown his way by some of you on here but that was a poor read by DA
An exact duplicate of the lapse where Umaga froze him in the 2015 Semi to take us out the WC. Not a great tackler, and capable of huge mental lapses.
Mozart
You have a cheek to bring up that incident against NZ in 2015. All evidence was that you were distorting what really happened and in fact your story was just another Mozart lie.
Bullshit DA is one of the best defenders in the game - it’s one of his strengths
Most dominant tackles in the WC
Case closed
Actually no…Will Jordan had the most dominant tackles for a back. Dud is second. But at an 81% tackle success ratio, he ranks 315 th out of the 495 players in the Opta WC stats.
As I said a poor defender who tends to get confused when having to make a decision.
Case closed.
And just point out what a b/s stat the dominant tackle is….highest percentage of dominant tackles among the backs was Elliot Daley….second Damien McKenzie.
Bullshit DA was listed as the top back with dominant tackles
Moazrt apparently does not know h at dominant tackles mean. Both Daley and McKenzie are light weight backline players incapable of making dominant tackles - but then the idiot also claim that Mostert makes strong tackles - when it just did not happen.
Every argument Mozart brought up on this thread became more BS and I for one are not go/ing to add any further comments on this one is just causing further idiocy by Mozart. . .
No your source is wrong….maybe the fool didn’t know Will Jordan is a back. And in terms of tackle success Allende was 315 out of 495. Straight from OPTA.
Here knock yourself out. And if you are capable of reading the table you should apologize Russia bot.
https://theanalyst.com/na/2023/09/rugby-world-cup-2023-stats-hub/
Apologies Moz DA had the best % of dominant tackles for a back in 2023 not just the WC, I had to go back to the article. I thought it was just the WC. So in fact that makes DA’s performance that more impressive.
Kolisi had the best % for a forward
Ja, and Kolisi is kwansuis k@k too...can't make this sh!t up....LEKKE BOKKE...CHEERS VIR 'N GATSKOP JAAR!!!
The definition of a dominant tackle = the polar opposite of what Mostert does :)
Yes it’s what McKenzie does.
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The difference between us and others': Erasmus' Bok 'transformation'
By Josh Raisey
With two World Cups to his name now, one as head coach and one as director of rugby, Rassie Erasmus is already being heralded as one of, if not the best coach in rugby’s history.
It is clear to see that the 51-year-old has revolutionised South African rugby, but it is harder to know exactly how he has achieved that. But his captain Siya Kolisi recently gave an insight into what Erasmus did behind the scenes after becoming director of rugby in 2017, and later head coach, which made the Boks the force they currently are.
Speaking recently to Jim Hamilton on RugbyPass TV’s The Big Jim Show, the double World Cup winning captain explained what makes the Springboks different to other teams and how Erasmus transformed the team, starting with making Kolisi captain in 2018. The 32-year-old shed some light on the culture that Erasmus has created- where the team is more important than the individual, and, more importantly, how they do not forget who they are representing.
Jim Hamilton visited Siya Kolisi at his new club in Paris, Racing 92, for an in depth chat about life since the 2023 RWC final.
“People don’t speak enough about him and they don’t get him. We get him,” Kolisi said of his head coach.
“He started talking about the country and how things were in the past.
“How transformation is important and if we’re to win, we have to transform, we need squad depth. He started talking about transformation whereas in the past it was a hidden thing.
“He’s up front with the players. The Springboks were different in the old days and we’re going to give opportunities to people to try and make this South Africa team look more diverse.
“He reminds us sometimes when we complain or when we lose motivation, he’s like ‘remember what’s going on in the country, you are the one percent, you do what you love. Don’t forget where you come from. Think about that boy, the young Siya that’s out there, when you want to give up.’
“He calls it out when you get big-headed, my teammates too. That’s what’s great about our team.
“When guys get subbed – I get subbed at 45 minutes sometimes – and I know why. Because I’m not as effective as I usually am. Then Kwagga [Smith] will come in and they win the game. It doesn’t mean I like it, but I’m comfortable enough to know the team is more important. I think that was the difference between us and others.
“Some players would get pissed off when they’re subbed off early. But we’ve had hard conversations as a group. That’s what I really enjoy, when we have honest and serious conversations. You get hurt, but you don’t take it to heart, you move on the next day.”