Looking for Jurenzo Julius

Not this Julius:

Throws what looks like a forward pass for the Williams try at minute 6.00

Moments later misses the key tackle leading to Lions try.

Minute 12 grubber into opponent…luckily Sharks get it back

Drops ball into touch

Drops a high pass near the Lions line

Minute 38 gets good ball brought down by the first tackler.

Minute 54 …knocks on into touch under a bit of pressure

Makes a decent back tackle

Minute 62…yanked

………

Not that fellow masquerading as Jurenzo Julius I’m looking for the gliding African BOD….anybody caught sight of that fellow.

I only caught the first half of the game, and he did Zero in that 40 minutes.

I'm still waiting for just one performance this season where he lives up to the hype.

...in contrast to Hooker who at worst has a solid game and and best looks like a modern Jaque Fourie. And despite Chippo's poor reading of records, had twice as many tries as JJ this season.

...and in contrast to Henco who is a real live wire, perpetually outsmarting the opposition and creating opportunities if not finishing them himself.

As far as I'm concerned, JJ doesn't qualify for a Bok call up yet. Not even close.

Pathetic - grow the fuck up

You are a fucking liar

Forward pass my arse it was a great long pass off his wrong hand

Missed tackle that’s a lie

He lost possession in contact because he was looking to offload with ball in one hand as he has often done to perfection - so what

Terrible high pass thrown above his head he lost

Shit offload thrown at him on the touchline

Those are the facts - you are just a fucking liar

Yanked my arse

The lad is a 20 year old kid - let him fucking play and get a life instead of having nothing better to do than target an existing young talent

Fucking pathetic - how pathetic do you have to be that you get great pleasure out of targeting a young talent the country and not just me is excited about - sex

Hooker??? What the fuck did he do that was any better than JJ on the day - what a joke

He is the best centre since JJ Engelbrecht...

Fuck off you ignorant prick

The first try at minute 7.00. The Lions scrummie pops the ball back to a trailing player, he breaks Julius’s tackle and feeds the next Lion who is now clear of the defensive line. Julius makes a solid tackle and there is no try,

Accept the facts.

You are lying

No Dave you are lying….I never lie. He missed the tackle.

He get bounced at minute 14 as well….he doesn’t seem to have the upper body strength yet.

You always lie - here’ the facts , Lombard steps inside JJ half hits him, he pops the pass and goes down, the Lions 15 gets through Hendrikse but more concerning Immelman - both far bigger players than the Lions 15.

Try was scored through Immelman one on one not JJ stopping Lombard dead but Lombard being free to get the pass away thanks to his little inside step

So yes you are fucking lying but more to the point, you are pathetic enough to blame it on JJ because of your childish targeting of a bright new SA rugby talent - that’s how pathetic you are

I mean fuck me even his pass was forward, the fact that two bad passes were thrown at him is completely ignored - according to your childish prejudice he just dropped the balls

He did no more or no less than any other centre on the day - he spilt one ball trying to offload one handed in contact - shoot him for that

Moz seriously you are pathetic - why the fuck you support SA rugby is beyond me. Instead of enjoying the sights of some new talent you choose to target and childishly run them down

Go fucking support fuck knows who but you are no SA rugby supporter. You have issues with 90% of our players young and old and you hate our coach

Do us all a favour and go support another side

I never exonerated any other players, but if Julius made his tackle the momentum would not have been there, if he managed to wrap the player, which he was trying to do, the pass wouldn’t even have been made.

He missed the tackle.. I’m not interested in Hendrikse and Immelman’s role.

‘’Dave you lie, you know you are lying, you know I know you know you are lying but you still lie…..get some help.

Fuck off am I lying you are fucking lying - you said that JJ missed a tackle - no he did not, Lombard went down after the JJ contact. How the fuck are you meant to wrap your arms around someone who steps inside you? JJ is special but not that special. He got enough on him to force him to the ground but the step gave Lombard enough freedom to effect the pass.

That passage of play was never a straight one on one - you have Horn picking the ball up from the base, you have vd Bergh running some distance before passing to Lombard, with Louw at 12 running a decoy line, JJ makes contact with Lombard, Lombard passes to the 15 who has plenty of work to do to score. He should never have scored from there given he bashed his way between Hendrikse and Immelman - both far bigger than him

Saying JJ was the cause of the try is a lie, firstly because many passes/ offloads are made from tackles or defensive contact. The try was scored thanks to Immelman primarily and Hendrikse secondary missing the tackle on the Lions 15

But of course you miss the real issue - why the fuck children targeting JJ with your pathetic negativity. What do you hope to achieve by doing this? Do you get a kick out of running a young SA talent down with fabricated bullshit?

He did no more or less than any other centre on the day.

Exactly Dave.

When are we going to start seeing the performances of the quality that Hannekom puts in?

I only make the comparison because that's the level of hype you are putting on the guy.

At some point the performances have to live match the hype.

Henco is light years ahead of him right now. It's not even close. JJ could play out of his skin for the rest of the season, and he'd still be behind Henco.

Perspective.

He was never put down, he was off balance but on his feet when he made the pass without any interference….Julius was past him by about 2 metres. He ran through the tackle but missed his man….who never stepped him, he slid over Julius arm as he went by….that unbalanced him, but he was still able to slide by and make the pass.

Julius missed the tackle because he made the rookie mistake of charging up too fast…he has a lot to learn.

As for it not being a straight one on one…it was Julius on Lombard who got the ball quite high he was actually off the ground securing it….a sitting duck but twisting his body, he was able to avoid the clumsy tackle, turn and make an unimpeded pass.

I hope the schooling is worth all the foul language, but I have my doubts.

Bullshit Lombard steps in JJ makes enough contact to stop him, but not enough to stop a pass, he goes down after the pass.

But none of all that was straight forward - you have 8, 9, 10 and 15 involved in the attack. It was not a straight down the line from the base.

8 to 9, 9 running some distance, 12 running a decoy line, 9 to 10 and 10 to 15 for the try. But ultimately it came down to poor defence by Immelman on the line letting the little guy through him for the try.

But again you are avoiding the real issue with reference to targeting a great young SA prospect. What’s your point? Do you get a kick out of this? Does it make you happy running this kid down?

He never stepped and even if he did, it was still Julius’ tackle to make. You come on here and announce this kid is going to be an all time great. So that attracts our attention and we start looking at him for at least three games since the great reveal and nada.

And when we tell you that you throw all your toys out the cot and have a hissyfit, If you want to be the great prophet accept the consequences when you are wrong.

A competent tackle and there was no try. He may be a future great, nobody knows, but he sure isn’t ready for serious test rugby.

Lombard stepped inside - fact

Hooker and JJ are aligned running up - JJ at least makes contact with Lombard while Hooker completely overshoots or misreads the Lion 15’s run

The try was scored because Immelman missed a tackle on the line - fact

JJ has played many more than 3 games and has made a huge impression in all his f them other than the last 2, does that then define him as a failure?

Does a player shine in every game he plays?

Reality is you are pathetic enough to now spend the rest of your days throwing negatives at JJ instead of enjoying what he has brought to the table

Why the fuck would people be talking him up so much if he was not making the right impressions. Either we are all blind or the likes of you and Plum have no fucking clue what makes a good rugby player or not

But one thing is for certain is that poor JJ will now forever be in your childish sights

As I said why the fuck do you support SA rugby

I’ve seen enough of JJ to say he is the real deal and Id have him at 13 ahead of Jessie Kriel and Am right now. He excites me - but he is human, he will make mistakes, he will have games where things don’t happen but he has shown more than enough to convince me he is special. He is certainly more gifted than Henco v Wyk and Hooker.

But that’s my opinion and hopefully he goes on the be a great - he excites me unlike you who just chooses to childishly target him and define him by the odd quiet game and a load of pathetic fabrication by yourself like a forward pass or the cause of a try - utter horse shit

But hey ho rugby negativity clearly floats your boat - it’s not the first time we have been down this road - the list of players young and old is endless

It’s pathetic really - why do you support SA rugby?

He scored a mere 3 tries this season.

He hasn't won any MOTM awards.

He has had no games where he was the best back on the field.

Dave, you have to stop using the appeal to authority when it suites you. You always revert to "but others say he is good so he must be good".

When it comes to Mostert, the best coaches in SA pick him as often as possible and play him in the most important games. Here, you believe you are smarter than these coaches and their opinion doesn't matter. But when their opinion lines up with yours, then it matters.

What matters is performance.

JJ has put in hardly any of note. A couple of flashes, nothing more.

Henco is outperforming JJ.

JJ needs more consistent Performances, if he wants to be a Bok.

Saffex, you should be celebrating the fact that rugby noobs like Moffie and his Servile Gimps don't rate Jurenzo Julius. It's all the validation you need.

I'd be questioning his potential if they did rate him. It worries me a bt that some of these noobs rate Ethan Hooker. Maybe I need to rethink that one . . .

Funny, cos I actually came here to make a post about Hooker...

Hooker - 194cm and 98Kgs

DDA - 189cm and 103Kgs

Now kindly view the try he creates at timestamp - 00:39.

He's bigger, far faster, and smarter than DDA.

Says the biggest Rugby noob of them all…..other than deliberately stirring shit, what Rugby knowledge are you sharing??

All that is said here, is that maybe it’s to early to call JJ a Bok Wunderkind when he is still finding his feet at URC level….

I'll add that the try on the timestamp 04;00 minute mark in this clip is one of my favourites this season - and JJ sparked it.

Watching Esterhuizen distribute in that video makes a mockery of people calling him dumb muscle. See his passes at 0:11 and 4:18.

So true Rooi - when you start measuring a player by how many tries he scores, you know it’s a lost cause

If you think Henco v Wyk or Hooker are out performing JJ then again it’s a lost cause

If Hooker [search: singles near me] was that great he would be starting at 12 or 13 for the Sharks especially considering the absence of Esterhuizen - but no he is left out on the wing

Don’t get me wrong I rate Hooker highly he looks a good player but like Henco v Wyk they rely mostly on power to execute - direct kind of players - not much X factor there

JJ on the other hand looks to attack space with skill, the lad glides like Sacha does

And Plum you are speaking shit, he has on numerous occasions been the best centre on display in a game

JJ is going to play many more tests than Hookef or Henco ever will

What the hell, Saffolk ?! “ search singles near me “ !!

What the hell, Saffolk ?! “ search singles near me “ !!

LOL! The man is insatiable.

I think he might be !

Dave your record of calls who flop is unmatched…..there are literally scores of these flubs.

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Apr 27, 2015, 18:08

A player that tends to go under the radar but has been pretty impressive this year......he was excellent for the Lions on the weekend.......how the hell did he not get a Bok training squad call up?

There are a few others Meyer has missed out on like centres Odendaal and Vorster.......not to mention Kriel at 6 and Coetzee at 15.

Mostert the Lions lock has been very good as well but I guess his size at 112kg to 115kg counts against him.

….

And there we have Dave punting Mostert.. hahaha!

I soon saw through what Mostert was actually about - all heart and energy with zero physical productivity.

For me a Bok lock simply has to be physical, it’s why Victor Matfield bulked up to a respectable 117kg to compliment his great rugby skills

My added beef with Mostert is that he is not even a skilful rugby player that could potentially offset his physical deficiencies

I don’t even think he is an average player I honestly think he is just plain crap - but that’s my opinion. He makes loads of process tackles - it’s not the job of a lock - openside flanker maybe but not a lock

As for JJ well he is just too gifted not to make it - he is up there with Sacha, Willemse etc

I cut off the name of the player you were punting here…it was Combrink. Another great who wasn’t.

He was a very good wing

Yeah Combrink was really shit !!!

Saffex, you're debating the quality of rugby players with someone who said Cheslin Kolbe would never make it as an international wing, Jaque Fourie couldn't tackle, Andre Esterhuizen is a snail, Pieter-Steph du Toit is useless and Meyer Bosman would be the next Springbok flyhalf legend.

Let that sink in.

Don’t forget Adi Jacobs at centre :)

I counter the last 2 posts with Luke Watson is better than (world player of the year) Schalk Burger. No more need be said. Oh damn, let’s throw in Eben Etzebeth is a show pony from Time Stamp.

But we digress….Julius has looked like a school boy in the matches I’ve watched. I can’t see the genius selecting him any time soon unless it’s against Georgia.

The bigger question is will he continue to start for the Sharks, last week’s yank when the game was in balance was ominous.

I liked Combrink. What was the story with him not getting more chances? It's like he just suddenly disappeared from the scene one day.

And nothing wrong with Combrink except he couldn’t break 12 seconds in the 100 metres. I seem to remember Farrell gassing him in the English test in 2016.

His test career lasted 5 months…another player that ‘had’ to to be picked.

These reminiscences are fun, shall I keep them coming?

JJ looks like a school boy kind of sums your rugby stupidity up

Case closed

Commentary from that game:

Daly kicked towards the visitors’ 22. The wing Ruan Combrinck made a mess of securing possession before flicking a pass along the ground to Willie le Roux, who failed to grasp hold of it. Brown hacked on and when he missed the ball with his hands as he tried to dive on it near the line, Lawes was on hand to touch down.

And this classic:

Youngs still had a trick in his hand. Every time he received the ball, he looked to see where the hapless Du Toit was, aware of the forward’s large turning circle. The scrum-half spotted him neither guarding nor marking the first receiver and glided through a gap that should not have been there to set up Farrell, whose conversion gave the centre a match total of 19 points.

Off to golf…..that should be a bit more challenging.

Another lie about a player - Combrink was slow was he? Either you are blind watching his highlights video or you are stupid enough to lie about his pace

Combrink had a long lay off with injury and never made it back after that

He was a quality player

Moz why the fuck do you bother supporting SA rugby? Serious question

"Moz why the fuck do you bother supporting SA rugby?"

What on earth makes you think Moffie supports the Springboks? Weren't you on the board during the last RWC?

Every win by Rassie's Springboks was like a dagger in Moffie;s heart . . . and those 1 point wins in the knockouts were especially painfully for the pompous old fop.

PSdT being named World Player of the Year a few weeks later was the last straw that sent him over the edge . . . which is why he comes on here day after day and week after week trying his best to denigrate the Springboks fantastic achievement while pretending that he hasn't got egg all over his stupid fat face.

LMAO!

He slates the majority of our players old and new and he hates our coach

I get so much enjoyment watching our players, love seeing new talent coming through - it’s why I watch and love the game

Moz sits there and throws negatives at the players and the coach. How the fuck do you enjoy or gain any pleasure in slating the majority of what makes SA rugby rock

Fuck me we have the best coach ever, the best side ever and a host of exciting new talent coming through and all Moz can do is bitch and moan about it all.

Its all a bit sadistic - must be fucking depressing being so negative about SA rugby all the time

What’s the fucking point?

Springbok rugby is in the healthiest state it's been in for about 70 years . . . but Moffie hasn't stopped bitching and whining about all the players he hates and the coach that he hates.

Why would you think this jaundiced old relic supports South Africa or the Springboks?

He professes to be a supporter, I’m asking why he bothers given all the negativity he throws at our sides at all levels

How does he derive any pleasure from watching with a view to targeting players and worst of all ignorantly discrediting the best coach the Boks have ever had

"How does he derive any pleasure from watching . . ."

That's my point. He doesn't.

A biased and self-important rugby noob.

Strange concept watching a sport and hating on most of what you see and the guy pulling the strings

Rugby to me is the polar opposite to what Moz gains from it

Nothing more exciting than seeing the likes of a Roos, Hanekom, Arendse, Moodie, Willemse, Sacha or Jurenzo Julius break onto the scene

Hahaha….while the cat’s away….is that the best you could come up with, the same old whines. Totally hypocritical because both of you were in exactly the same place about Jake. This is the field you both plowed.

For someone that hates Bok rugby, Moz sure does watch a lot of it.

I've yet to make a match thread where he doesn't pop up.

Lol Rooi you and I were both in camp "Eben needs to pull finger and stop living on rep."

...and during Coetzee's time, I was in an even worse camp. While the Boks were losing to Los Pumas, the Lions were thumping the Jags by 40 points. My simple conclusion was, take that entire Lions side and make them Boks. They were obviously a far superior side to the Boks with an almost unbeatable gameplan.

Of course, looking back now, most of those players faded into obscurity and the Boks suffered Coetzee until fans were on the verge of rioting.

Anyhoos, I pulled up some cricket posts recently where Dave was certain Markram was excellent and should remain in the Proteas.

Let's not talk about crystal balls, because everybody's lets them down.

And indeed, this all takes focus away from the man of the hour.

I can see why he is being hyped. It's clear that he has skill. It would be nice to have a Bok nicknamed the Boogeyman. I wanna buy it all. I want Dave to be right. I want JJ to start being as effective as Henco.

...but, for now, the price ain't right. I would never buy one of those still-under-construction properties. Not until the plaster is at least going onto the walls.

Julius is just past foundation stages at this point.

JJ is better and more effective than Henco when it comes to what will work at test level

He is ready for test rugby now, just like Sacha, Pollard, Frans Steyn and Willemse were at the same age

Id have him as my Bok 13 ahead of Jessie or Am right now

I’d like to see more of Moodie at 13 as well, he excites me more than Henco does

Direct less creative players like Henco don’t excite me as much - they are easy to defend against at test level

Assertions, assertions….that missed tackle won’t fly with the genius. The kid needs to show he can compete against the adults.

Well for a start Rassie is not stupid enough to define JJ’s contact as a missed tackle only a prejudicial fool with a childish agenda would make that call

Fuck me regardless of that imagine being stupid enough to think players never miss tackles - even the great de Allende or PSDT miss tackles

You mean like the tackles the great Dud never made on Nonu and Mo’unga…..no Julius’ miss wasn’t as bad as that, at least he made contact and it wasn’t in a WC knockout.

The child here is you Dave….going gaga on any new player he thinks he spotted first. That’s led to abysmal record over hyping nothing burgers.

Grow up.

Fresh coming from you who childishly takes great pleasure in watching a game involving SA players with the sole purpose of extracting as much negative as possible from those players and if the coach happens to be Rassie then of course he gets childishly targeted as well.

But best of all is you are beyond realising how much you embarrass yourself on the topics of our awesome coach and two time world player of the year

As for JJ’s so called missed tackle - if you knew anything about rugby you would know that a missed tackle sees the attacker continue his attack and not land on his hands and knees

Our awesome coach whose idea of a backline attack is a box kick and who just happened to encounter the weakest Oz and NZ teams since readmission with the best Bok talent pool we have ever had.

And despite those advantages needed Pollard to be perfect and NZ to get a red card, just to win by a point.

Spare me the BS.

As for the tackle Julius missed….Julius made contact with Lombard and then slipped off him, Lombard was entirely free of the tackler when he passed the ball. A missed tackle.

There we go - childishly on queue - so Rassie has been facing the worst Oz and NZ sides since readmission - that’s a complete lie as always. Oz potentially but certainly not NZ

I see you conveniently fail to mention that Rassie has faced the best French, Irish, Scottish and Argentinian sides ever

I see you are still stupid enough to not comprehend the impact of not having a specialist hooker for 78 min - shock, shock

Lombard went nowhere after the contact by JJ other than flat on his knees - missed tackle my arse - you don’t even know the basics of rugby - shock, shock

You have failed to mention how shit most of the SA players are

And none of the French, Irish, Scottish or Argentinian sides have won a WC. What does it matter if Argentina is better, they are never going to win a WC. Oz has…..on 3 different occasions. Having them fall out of the mix makes it much easier.

As for the ABs…what generation of AB was worse. Maybe the 2003 team, but they beat us quite easily..

As for the rest of that rubbish it’s all been discredited. Stop lying, stop swearing, stop insulting your fellow posters and debate like a gentleman.

The purpose of the board is to debate points of view not insult those who disagree with you. It’s getting very tedious. If there was just a hint of humor it might be more acceptable….but there’s none, just red faced hissyfits

Your pathetic anti SA players is beyond tiresome - you are an insult to SA rugby supporters

Winning a WC is not the sole measure of a side you fool fuck me

You ignorantly bang on about the Boks playing the worst Oz side but fail to acknowledge that the French, Irish, Scottish and Argentinians are the best they have ever been - throwing your pathetic theory, that the current Boks are facing weaker opposition, right out the window - shock, shock

You don’t fucking debate rugby, your sole purpose on here is to attack our players and awesome coach

Do us a favour and go fucking support another side as you are not a SA rugby supporter

More of the same….classless ranting

Beats the hell out of targeting the majority of our players and our awesome coach

I support SA rugby, do you?

You support win at all costs, game the refs, kick the leather off the ball….celebrate opposition red cards.

I absolutely want the Boks to win…but I want them to be what the ABs have been and still are to fans around the world, the team that exemplifies rugby played at it’s best.

With the explosion of talent now available we should be evolving into that team. We aren’t, our backline play relies on individual brilliance, our passing game is 3rd tier. We win because we have the most physical athletes on the planet.

We can be much, much better.

"I absolutely want the Boks to win…"

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha!!!

Yeah right!

Stop being such a stinking liar, Moffie.You've been willing Rassie's Springboks to lose every game they've ever played. Don't deny it.

That’s exactly how your mind worked when Jake was the coach, I’m perfectly capable of not enjoying our current coach, but still fully supporting the Boks. Every time you open your mouth you expose your rotten self.

This notion that we don’t play the best rugby is the biggest load of shit ever as is us kicking the leather off the ball - that’s simply not true - far from it in fact

We would not have wings with the best strike rates in the game if we did not play it wide

We score more tries, make more clean breaks, beat more defenders than most sides

The only time we played it conservatively was post COVID as we had spent no time together

Game the refs, huh? Celebrate red cards - that’s another lie

You take on Bok rugby is far from reality

This is what Time Stamp said:

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Oct 30, 2023, 15:50

Before the RWC started I said words to the effect that I consider Rassie to be a crybaby, a bungling fool with a big ego and lacking the courage or ambition to play attacking and exciting rugby.

During the RWC I said that Rassie made some incredibly stupid and shortsighted decisions and I complained bitterly about the mindless kick-and-hope game plan.

Now it's after the World Cup is over and we have defended our title successfully and become the first team to win 4 titles.

I still find it hard to forgive Rassie for his embarrassing crybaby behaviour during the British Lions tour, I still think he lacks the courage or ambition to play attacking and exciting running rugby. I do believe he had the biggest and best pool of talent to choose from and nearly botched it and I still dislike his insatiable need to control everything . . . but (and this is a big "but") . . . I also said before the tournament started that if he won it, I would call him a rugby genius and that is what inspires this post.

…..

Sounds pretty much exactly what I said….Time Stamp goes on to praise Luckmus’ motivational skills and execution. But the trouble is he came to the above conclusion after Luckmus had coached the Boks more than 60 times.

That’s what he really believed before he felt the need go with the mob, a classical weak man response.

But he was right for once, Luckmus was a bumbling cry baby who lacked ambition and nearly bungled the WC.

So Moz do you think Jake is better than Rassie?

We’ll never know, he was sabotaged by the Union he is working for today. But here are some numbers:

Jake with 1 WC was 36 and 17

‘After 4 years and 1WC….the equivalent to Jake….Rusmus was 34 and 18.

Food for thought.

I really don't get the Jake hate.

All the while Plumtree's Sharks have underperformed so often, being absolutely hammered on occasion, while often having more Boks on the field than non-Boks.

Yet, Jake's side is doing better than anybody else's, but he takes all the flack.

Plumtree and Dobson are shit as well

Still looking…

I' guess he must be wearing camo because I've searched everywhere too and there are zero signs of the guy Dave has described.

Could it be that JJ is somewhere, but it's not the JJ we have been told about.

What I did see him do yesterday when Mapimpi was tracking back for a a ball, was to start jogging back. Then Mapimpi got in a bit of trouble with the pickup and suddenly JJ started sprinting again, getting there too late to be of any assistance.

A real bad mistake because Mapimpi was always going to be under pressure and even if there is only a 10% chance that Mapimpi might need help, you make sure you are back there to help him. He didn't, and the Zebs got a try for their troubles.

Moz that will because your eyes are fucked and you are just childish. Clever inside support line to score that try - rugby brains - then never got the ball for the rest of the game - hardly

Plum I see your man Hooker can’t even catch a ball passed straight to him? But I’m not sad and pathetic enough to target our youngsters and throw unmerited shit at them. If you are going to be pathetic enough to target a player then you better hope the one you tout delivers the goods. Unfortunately Hooker flopped again but he is better than that but like JJ got fuck all opportunities as the Sharks were pretty shit on the day - not a single backline movement all game

Fucking pathetic joke the pair of you

Plum, don't get me started on Plumtree or the Saarks.

They gave so much talent and had so much that they just discarded.

I'm not even sure which union is the best at the moment or if we have any decent coaches in SA.

I thought Dobbo was up there but maybe they got lucky with COVID and other teams felt financial pressure. The Stormers are getting worse every season. The lions can't seem to get out of first gear.

Bools have so much talent.

So Ja, I thought we be topping all 4 spots of the table by now.

Maybe we don't have so many great professionals that can do the job.

I think we are lucky with Rassie that seams to get the best out of these players. Just wish our coaches could create a similar environment

I am not so sure that Jordan is the anwser at 10…..

he is to erratic sometimes where he needs to be calmer to make the right decision. Libbok is not much better either.

Our back up 10,s is not that solid. Jurie Mathee is my opinion better.

JJ is suppose to create opportunities to score , not wait for his team mates to provide.

Like Mapimpi Setting him up with nice and easy run in try. Where is the magic and glide gone?

Our franchises should be doing a bit better I would say….the biggest problem is keeping up the good performances .

He can’t create if he does not get the ball you fucking idiot

Excuses, excuses….he should get More involved in the game to get hold of the ball more….ATM he is not the player you make him out to be…

And insults from a lunatic like you, won’t prove your points better. You are tedious and strenuous like a baby with a wet panty…

Ok dumbfuck point out the instances in the game where he could have got more involved

Lets prove how fucking rugby ignorant you are

Time stamp where you think he could have done more

Good luck dumb fuck

Jordan's problem is Jayden being too relaxed.

I won’t give up Dave I’ll keep on looking.

Time stamp, the whole 80 mins…

You gave up on SA rugby long long ago Moz - your only pleasure is seeking the negative in our players

What would be admirable is you actually declaring as much instead of feeding us your bullshit

After all you know better than Jean and Schalk

Mpower you little chicken shit - man up or shut up you ignorant prick

He glides Dave but he glides slowly…when the Zebra wing broke round, even carrying the ball he easily gassed your man who then did a pathetic swan dive when he should have followed the play.

I gave you my answer, not my problem if you don’t like it…..

fact is that you overhyped the guy and now you are sour face because he is not living up to the hype!! lol

He glides Dave but he glides slowly…when the Zebra wing broke round, even carrying the ball he easily gassed your man who then did a pathetic swan dive when he should have followed the play.

With the Zebre try in the 50th minute a number of Sharks players were guilty of jogging back as the opposition was converging behind a kick. Only Mapimpi was sprinting, but he made an error, and in the end a Zebre player surrounded by 4 Sharks players scored a try, with the joggers (Penxe, Julius and Hendrikse) all arriving too late to save the try. Only as the try scorer, who was behind Julius on the 22, streaks past him onto the loose ball does he wake up and picks up some pace to intervene, but too late.

Two steps quicker, two steps more commitment in the chase, and any of Penxe or Julius could have dotted the ball down and saved the try. Lazy stuff.

Oh what utter fucking bullshit Moz

That's what I've been telling you Dave.

While you rate JJ as some mega-great in the making, nobody ever has to make excuses for Henko because he goes looking for work and finds it.

Weirdly, you call Henco a power based player, but it takes smarts and rugby IQ to find work and make an impact when the ball isn't coming to you.

We've been watching JJ for months now, and it's still only glimpses.

JJ's massive unforced defensive error yesterday was very telling. He's nowhere near being considered for Bok duty.

Plum stop fabricating shit - what defensive error did JJ make?

Henco did sweet fuck all for the Lions when he came on

Rugby IQ my arse - the Lions attack using their backs so Henco gets plenty of opportunities

Not a single line movement by the Sharks yesterday which saw JJ receive the ball

Not a single one but you sad fucks are so hell bent on dissing him you sit there and fabricate shit about a defensive error that never happened

We get you telling us how great Hooker is and what did he show yesterday?

Saffex, the Servile Gimps are just mouthing off the same ignorant nonsense that their master spouts.

JJ didn't get much ball yesterday but on the rare occasion he did, he was electric as usual. Definitely a future star. There are a lot of faces on this thread that will have a lot of egg quite soon. Watch this space.

Spot on Rooi these noobs are embarrassing

It must be sad knowing so little but profess to know so much

I mean they even know better than Schalk and Jean

Hilarious

So say Wantwit and Stupex…..ROFL! Remember the Deysel twins and how stupid everybody was then. You can’t fix dumb.

But you know better than Schalk and Jean - fuck right off

I mean how profoundly stupid does that make you look but you are too stupid to comprehend this fact

Literally

Looking stupid is unfortunate, being stupid is terminal. Which are you Dave?

"Looking stupid is unfortunate, being stupid is terminal. Which are you Dave?"

Well, we know you're both, Moffie.

LMAO!

This is not about me I’m just pointing out how stupid, let’s confirm, rugby stupid you are

Some things are rugby obvious and when they are backed by two legends of the game you kind of have nowhere to hide but you are still literally stupid enough to believe you know better than these legends

It’s embarrassing

Not to mention stupid enough to still be trashing a 2 time RWC-winning coach and a 2 time World Rugby Player of the Year!

Saffex, the Servile Gimps are just mouthing off the same ignorant nonsense that their master spouts.

ButtPlug pops onto his soap box and leads the charge.....true to form he tries to sound clever LMAO!

Dave

I am not gin g to get invovled in all the tripe witten on site, I will summaize my comments in ne sneence - I think Julius has huge potential - bu eneds ssome fine-tuning for hsi deelopment in future,

Dave

I am not gin g to get invovled in all the tripe witten on site, I will summaize my comments in ne sneence - I think Julius has huge potential - bu eneds ssome fine-tuning for hsi deelopment in future,