Most overrated Bok team

Johan Goosen

Ruan Combrink

JJ Englebrecht

Dud Allende

Ashwin Willemse

Patrick Lambie

Enrico Januarie

Coenie Oosthuizen 

Richard Dalton

Deon Carstens

Lomp de Jager 

Dud Toit

Luke Watson

Siya Kolisi 

Pierre Spies

Haha no way Combrink was underrated.

You can safely remove Allende, Willemse, Lood, Du Toit and Siya. 

Collectively not a great side. 

Louis Koen over Lambie

Koen had a great boot but that was all. 

Bullshit to

Goosen

Willemse

de Allende (the best 12 in the game)

Lambie

Combrink

Coenie

James Dalton

Lood (Matfield says he is the best in the game)

PSDT (world player of the year)

Kolisi - better than Schalk

The likes of Mostert, Orie, BJ Botha, Morne, Adi Jacobs etc belong on that list

Koen was never ever regarded as highly as Lambie. Koen was a bit better but Lambie had the most extraordinary hype. That was the beginning of the mythical era of Bok rugby. Now we have Damian, Lood, Kolisi, PTSD, Libbok, Arendse, Moodie, Faf, Willemse, Malherbe et al. Looking at it man for man, the 2003 side that played NZ in the world cup was much better than this side, or the 2019 final side. 

Most overrated of all Luke Watson.

Overrated for the longest period Dud Allende

Best singer who is overrated Sia Kolisi

Most overrated blonde…,Dud Toit.

Watson was quite overrated, but it doesn't come close to Steph, Lambie, Kolisi, Damian, or Lood. Watson had some good enough performances to at least draw attention, the others were flat lines. Damian in particular was catastrophic between 2014 to 2016. He gets more criticism now, but where was it then? He is actually better now than he was then!

I expected a stronger rebuke from Saffex. Some of his favourite players being targeted. 

Goosen was never talented. He was found out as early as the Bulls game in Super rugby that year. I think I still have that game on disc. 

Ashwin was a strange one. In a poor Bok effort in 2003 against the AB's in the Tri Nations, he did stand out. However, he wasn't exactly great overall. He obviously fell for his own hype. Jake was desperate when looking to him for the 2007 WC, but JP really repaid that faith in him! It was a close call too! 

Yep JJ was very good that year so much so I said he would be the best 13 since Gerber

Unfortunately it soon became apparent that he lacked the hard edge and I was the first to concede I was wrong about him. There have been far worse 13’s than JJ, starting with swinging door Adi Jacobs - he was an insult

But there are lying twats on here who say I said he was better than Gerber - just a fucking lie

I missed Luke Watson on that list - nothing overrated about him, he was a class 6 winning Super rugby player of the year - that says it all. It was his agenda away from rugby that fucked him up

You said he was better. However, it wasn't a good year for him. Hence why he was replaced by Fourie on the EOYT. JJ was a turnstyle on defence. Who could forget his failure to stop Barrett who was within reach? Blew a test, and was never anything thereafter. JJ was awful. Taute was better, but Goosen blew that too. 

Stop lying you worthless cunt

It's true, Barrett rushed right past him and blew our defence for a try. JJ was a porous defender with exceedingly poor presence in contact. He could run fast, but what did that trai t accomplish? Not a lot. 

Saffex, would you ask a chimpanzee to code you a program? Would you play chess against a donkey? Would you ask a chicken to help you with a crossword puzzle?

No?

Then why in the name of all that is holy are you trying to engage Doos XL in a rugby discussion?

12997 posts of nothing. That's quite an achievement. The weasel pokes it's head out every now and then, sometimes even its knockers, but never can a rugby post be found. 

I do need to correct myself. Notshe is the all time greatest Bok. 

You have a point Rooi - I hear you