Moart
Has Razor won 2 WC in a row? Stop your BS attacks n Erasmus please. - you are increasing looking more stupid every day.
Moart
Has Razor won 2 WC in a row? Stop your BS attacks n Erasmus please. - you are increasing looking more stupid every day.
This will be a very interesting experiment. Razor will be more open minded when it comes to Backline play and not predominantly 10 man Rugby.
Manpower
Are you still too stupid to see the difference how the Springboks play now from how they plaed under Erasmus's predecessors You are stuck in certain BS ideas and fail to see what is really happening.
Wow imagine being sad enough to now imply that Razor is better than Rassie
There is no limit to your dive Moz
Why bother supporting the Boks - seriously?
One would swear the AB side was a poor one - just look at the names on their team sheet
Ok Uncle Clever, how did we score most of our points in our wins over the AB? We are predominantly still playing exactly the same Rugby as we did in 2019.
What scires did the AB's plaers got than our plaayers. In e seconf test Shaca was better than Polard and miles better than McKenzie, De Allende was the Player of the Match in he second est and in the first test it was Du Toit.
On the hole I rate he whole two eams s follows:
* Springbks 7,5/10
* All Blacks 6/10
I suppse you rate it totally different based on Predjudice.
Exactly clever you dumb plank. If our players are way better than the AB players, why did we struggle to beat them.
Who out of that AB team would make the Bok team. None of the backs ….maybe Barrett at 12, but only because Dud is our current 12… nobody else.
In the pack maybe their tighthead and Savea. That’s 3 players.
So with a team that’s better at 12 out of the 15 positions how did the genius only settle the match in the last quarter?
Swop the teams and there is an automatic 14 point swing….the team coached by Razor gains 7 maul related points and the Boks lose 7.
Playing at home with a team which is better in 12 positions the genius scrapes home and EggYolk sings glory hallelujah. Groupies can’t think.
You besotted and Preujudice plank ould come up that BS like the above. Do you ever see o what really happe during matches and know what is relevant to rugby - especialy those things yu do ot want to see and lie about examples endlessly and wehen caught out go quiet about it and then a ywear later repeat the BS.
What you write onm ste came from a mind that is totally biased. It is rare hat top teams win matches by big margins anyway,
Arsehole I ask you super BSter who you would replace De Allende with? 90% of real rugby experts suppott De Allende as the best nside center in te world at present - the other 10% promoted players from their own countries/ You are the only idiot attacking the best coach in world rugby, How the hell did you get biased to the insane level you are?
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Back to the question….why did we just scrape home against the ABs when we would only choose 3 of their players for a joint team and we were playing at home. Let go of the wanking machine and focus. Then try your best to answer the question that’s posed,
Pathetic
MOZART
Watch the following video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7jmgsHmI58
Maybe if you are no totally blinkered you may find out how rugby s mproved unde Erasmus,
Answer the question Clever and you can chime in Eggyolk. How can a genius struggle to beat a team with only 3 players we would substitute for our own…. Playing right in the kraal????
What a load of utter BS without any proof of anything at all and then comes up with a unbeleivable ;evel of hatred of ERasmus and certain players,
How about actually looking at Moz's argument.
Do you agree that very few ABs would get into this Bok side? - I do
Do you agree that with a side that is so much better than the current ABs, a -5 point winning margin is underwhelming? - I do
So, allow me to make a case for you plebs because you're obviously not able to.
Razor is probably a better Rugby coach, and Rassie is probably a better Rugby Team coach. Razor is likely better at getting his team to score points. And Rassie is better and creating unity, spirit and belief.
And lets be honest here for a minute, these ABs are nowhere near Richie's side. I'm sure most of the Kiwis agree. My belief is that side was the ABs best side ever and it'll be many years before they replicate a side like that.
And allow me to make a comment that's gonna piss every Kiwi on earth off. DMAC is overrated and shouldn't be in that side. He doesn't do nearly enough to make up for what he can't do.
And here is a challenge that I know none of you on the team DDA will EVER take up;
1) Make a contention about something and ask Moz or MPower to respond.
2) Observe their response and see if its a)more ad hominem or if b)they actually address your points and debate you.
We already know what'll happen. They'll actually address you contention. And that, my friends, is where the difference between the DDA fans and the rest of is drawn.
I'll make another hypothetical - give this team back to Allister Coetzee for a season and give Razor a season to build his side. Razor by 20+ for me.
Geez there are some sad excuses for Bok supporters on this board
Fucking pathetic
Best of all is Razor is probably a better coach than Rassie - fuck me I’ve read some shit in my time
My point being that yes, we have a great bunch of players, but without proper coaching, without proper systems, they'll be just that - a bunch of great individuals that will get their asses kicked like they did under Coetzee because they don't have an effective system of being a winning team.
One comes here hoping that mozzietard will recover from the spiked protein interfering with his few brain cells. But no luck the dope plummets to new levels of stupidity and ludicrous bias.
Mike and Dave congrats on your patience in putting up with this drivel.
Yes mozzietard is a fake Bok supporter. He is getting more bitter about Rassie every Bok win that happens. He has been floored by Du Toit who is now reckoned to be one of the greatest 7 s to play the game. Allende has just won man of tbe match.
Yes Mampara power is not the only manpara posting here. Hahahahahahaha.
BYE the way this is not a bad AB side at all. That hooker of their is the best on the world. Forwards are pretty solid and backs remain very dangerous.
I agree with Plum about Damian Mckenzie.
I always wonder what poor Mozzietard will come up with next to trash Rassie and the Boks. He is sounding more and more unhinged, desperate in fact. To proud to admit he has made three horrendously bad call, Rassie, Du Toit and Allende. Bwahahahahahaha.. Nevertheless I wish Mozzie a speedy recovery. I suggest he takes Dr Peter McCullough cocktail for the vaccine injured. Anything to spare us this drivel. See a shrink, it might help. There must be a cure for Rassie Derangement Syndrome. 
No cure for TDS, those suffering from this are doomed. They are far far gone. I see Nate Silver, the Democrat posing guru. Is predicting Trump wins 312 electoral college votes. He iy needs 270. Trump is rising in the polls. After Harris has been Brutally fact checked people not realise Trump won this debate hands down. Hahahahahahaha. The GOP are planning to haul in AN S Whistle blower has come forward. ABC has admitted to fact checking only Trump. Turns out their fact checking was complete nonsense.
I always am amazed how little some oaks know about rugby and politics. Mike has his hands full. I am too busy fighting for Trump to help Mike.
This Argintinian tests is going to be very interesting. Mozzietard will be hoping for Atlrgirs won. Oh if only, if Only Rassie would lose!
Pakie what the fuck are you on about - is the current side not being coached to your liking are we not winning enough for you
Fuck me what a load of utter shit
Dave, if you have trouble with basic English comprehension, don't make it my problem.
Pakie
With respect te comments under this thread is theoretical nonsense and will always be assumptions. The SA team is also in ransition and the omplaint is that the team changes are not fast enough.
So the playes are going to be changed through the next two years to prepare for the 2027 RWC and there will duing such a period be ups and downs.\
We already know that Vermeulen is in te coaching staff and it is alredy indicated that he sme will happen to Kolisi. So h will be around in 2027 as coaching ssistant, Provided their perfomance levels are maintained the only players likely to be in the playing squad in 2027 may be Marx, Etzebeth, Du Toit and De Allende - but that depends entirely on performance levels being maintained.
There is also a small change that Pollard may be in that caegory but he is already not the preferred starting flyhalf since Shaca came on the scene and that will become more evident during he next two years, As is the case with Snyman Pollard is also injury prone and often absent from playing for lenghty absence from the Springbok team sdue to injuries, The latter wll be a factor borne in mind as well.
"My point being that yes, we have a great bunch of players, but without proper coaching, without proper systems, they'll be just that - a bunch of great individuals that will get their asses kicked like they did under Coetzee because they don't have an effective system of being a winning team."
The above is typical BS spread by idiots and laughed at by rugby experts worldwide because it shows tha both of you are prejudiced and idiotic. It is not like Meyer and Coetzee who were so shit that they were fired for gross incompetence and destruction of he clubs they coached afterwards because of gross ncompetence. Mozart and you never criticized those two - but the two of you wrote shit about Erasmus ten times a week on coaching of which you have zero knowledge.
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Oh dear lord.
The premise of the original post is that we have better players, and that is the basis for our success. The players, not the coaching. Okay?
Right. So then I said that if this team gets handed back to Allister Coetzee for a year, Razor's ABs will put 20+ on them. Okay? Clearly implying that the coaching actually has something to do with it.
Next, I further clarified that with this:
My point being that yes, we have a great bunch of players, but without proper coaching, without proper systems, they'll be just that - a bunch of great individuals that will get their asses kicked like they did under Coetzee because they don't have an effective system of being a winning team.
Clearly this team is not getting their asses kicked like they did under Coetzee, so clearly I am not talking about the current setup. I am saying that a bunch of good players alone does not a successful team make, clearly implying that the current coaching setup has a hell of a lot to do with the team's success.
I see, so you agree with us that Moffie's statement in the OP of this thread is complete and utter bullshit?
Going by the Bok results all credit goes to Rassie. Has not put a foot wrong and that's with 10 changes per game.
I see, so you agree with us that Moffie's statement in the OP of this thread is complete and utter bullshit?
Well it's hypothetical, which is always iffy because it's essentially opinion based.
Give a good coach excellent players, obviously he will have success. But he needs to be a good coach first. And of course there's not just one coach, there's an entire staff, and the Bok staff is not likely to mold the current ABs into a side that will consistently find themselves 20 points short of the mark against any other side in the world. That's hypothetical too, but I'm pretty sure of it. How will the Boks do against their own defensive system, for example? It's a far more complicated equation than "Boks man for man better".
So Pakie it’s our fault and lack of the grasp of English that makes a few of us question the content of your post?
Oh I see
See Dave, you're getting better at comprehending already.
So Pakster you think ou mozzietard is INNOCENTLY raising a hypothetical and this has nothing to do with having a go against Rassie as he has been doing consistently for close to ten boring years!
Face facts poor mozzie has a severe dose of RDS
The problem with many of you guys, as Beeno just demonstrated again, is that you're so intent on being combative and/or contrarian that you just read to react, not to understand.
Dave is an honest groupie, HasBeen is locked into his war against globalism, Mike is stupid and Sic’s only joy in life is when he thinks he has insulted another poster.
A motley crew.
Now back to the debate. It’s not a 100% thing. No it’s not all players. But it’s also not all coaching. Our wins over the ABs were paper thin. And yet we had massively better players and were playing at home. . So who did the more successful coaching job. I think 100% that Razor over performed expectations.
Funniest response so far from sic who simply couldn’t understand Pakie’s nuanced argument.
Groupie my arse I’m the complete opposite as for our players being vastly better - absolute rubbish
Name a single Bok player that is vastly better than his opponent
Eben and that’s where it ends and that’s a fact
Not even the Duds? But you kept telling us Dud Allende is the best on the planet and Dud Toit is our best blindside ever?
Yes de Allende is very good but so is Jordie Barrett
PSDT is great but certainly not vastly better than Blackadder or the young lad that was so impressive in the last test
But come on I posed the question to you which Bok players are vastly better than their NZ opponents
Just answer the question
Pakie
This type of dicussion never before took place when While, De Villiers, Meyer and Coezee were coaches, Why is it now a topic other han a basis for attacking Erasmus an some playes members are prejudiced against?
When challenged about the fact that the kind o critcism is coming out on a daily basis now and pointed out his silence about Meyer's dsastrous coaching and selections - he came up wih only 1 example of where he was mildly critical of Meyer (1 case in 4 years) and the same applied to Coetzee.
When SARU apponted Erasmus as Dirctor of rugby Mozar's first reacion was that SARU should have rather have retained Coetzee and nt appoint Erasmus.
No ir is virtually every day that critcs shout abuse on Erasmus based on very little being factual and often fake assumptions - that si why I say we should discuss pertinent issues and not prejudiced BS on site,
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Mike, this is a discussion board. We're discussing. Why is 90% of the player conversations on this board around DDA and Steph? Dunno, that's the way it goes, polarizing stuff gets more mileage than middle of the road stuff. This place is fun, keeps us busy and is only as serious as you make it up in your mind to be.
Eggyolk I named the 3 ABs I thought were better above….Jordie Barrett, Savea and Williams. For the rest the Boks are better to vastly better. Better at halfback, vastly better on the wings, better in the front row, vastly better at lock and better at loosie.
With all those advantages, playing at home, it shouldn’t have been a close run thing.
And of course you are totally contradicting yourself…..,would anybody say this about the AB team:
Michael Hooper: ‘We are in the middle of genuine Springboks dominance, they are leaders in World Rugby’
Michael Hooper has spoken glowingly about the Springboks.
Former Australia captain Michael Hooper believes that the Springboks are currently at the “peak of their powers” following their demolition job of Wallabies in the Rugby Championship.
Hooper, who recently retired from Australian rugby, spoke glowingly of South Africa after their 33-7 victory over his former side
The ex-flanker says that South Africa is a ‘seriously good side’ and highlighted his commentary gaffe during the broadcast of the Rugby Championship clash.
Springboks’ dominance
Well, the below is absolutely untrue.
"This type of dicussion never before took place when While, De Villiers, Meyer and Coezee were coaches, Why is it now a topic other han a basis for attacking Erasmus an some playes members are prejudiced against?"
I signed on to this site specifically to see if anyone could shed light on why the Pienaar/Steyn axis was being forced and why nothing new was being tried. I was talking specifically about the coaching and how one dimensional the Boks were.
OK Mozart
You made your own assssment of players based on your own prejudiced assessment, and then try ad make a case for what you came up with, Then you try and tell us - despie videos made available on site that tere were no change in the Springboks game plan - and Erasmus si the worst xcoach the Srigbok had since 2004.
Every real expert has never supported your allegations - but then as you bragged in 2015 that you are the best rugby performance anylist in the world. Believe me no real analist will agree wih you on that assertion - especially people that have the advanced nternet analysis system you do not have access to
While you never critticized coaches since 2004 your attacks n Ersmus on a viually daily basis and mostly based on lies you have invented yourself. - for instance without real evidence you claimed that the Springboks play 10 man rugby and not comprehesve rugby because they can only score maul tries without even knowing what maul tries really entail. You also said that you never see anyway positicve Du Toit and De Allende did in tests they played in and when challenged on it - you lied on what really happened in the matches referred to.
Aside from that you use no comments posted on site proving that you are not wanting to see the truth of what is really happening in Springbok rugby. You claim you aupport the Springboks - but when you write comment on the team it is clear you hate the Springboks and hope they lose - so you can have real ammu to attack Erasmus/
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Eben, outplayed in about 17 consecutive games by Pieter-Steph du Toit is this one "vastly" better player we have.
LMAO!
Pakie
I cannot remember any instance where you specifically criticze Meyer or Coetzee an also Morne Steyn/ I my be wrng is that in the case o Erasmus the attaks is basicaly n a daily basis - in other cases it was maybe three or four times a year,
Get real please what you wrote are so repetitive - it really is boaring. .
"Funniest response so far from sic who simply couldn’t understand Pakie’s nuanced argument."
Oh I understood it alright. He was trying to tell you in the nicest (but rather servile) possible way that you're sounding like a biased rugby noob again.
Just by the way, if anyone is wondering why Moffie now calls me Sic, it's because of the number of times I had to point out his double standards and hypocrisy over a long period of time . . . not to mention his poor use of language and grammar.
Moz you are speaking utter shit as per usual to the point that it’s all a bunch of lies
Fassi / Willie vs Beauden Barrett
Kolbe vs Jordan /Tele’a
Kriel vs Ione
de Allende vs Jordie
Arendse vs Clarke/ Reece
Pollard/ Sacha vs McKenzie
Reinach/ Williams vs Perenara
Ox vs Williams / de Groot
Bongi/ Marx vs Cody
Malherbe vs Lomax
Eben vs …..
Mostert vs Scott Barrett
Kolisi vs Cane
PSDT vs Blackadder/ Situtu
Wiese vs Ardie
Not a single Bok is vastly superior to a Kiwi other than Eben and that’s a fact so stop speaking shit and just accept the fact that your anti Rassie is so fucking sad that you will stop at nothing trying to devalue his achievements
Thankfully we know better, while you continue to embarrass yourself
Dave asking this abject buffoon to stop talking shit is not going to help. The oak is far, far gone.
Mozart
As per normal you are talking BS - you are not basing aything you claim is the case,
What is really amazig is the claim that the AB team is in period of transition while the SA teams that played he AB's were not in a similar situation. Yet the average the 23 players had in test apperances for he AB;s was 47,5 tests per player in test appearances, In the case of the Springbks the same figure is 46,1 tests per player
So the fact that is beoming clearer is that statements such as mentioned above is n fact BS.
Willie better at 15 than Barrett
Kolbe vastly better than Jordan
Kriel better than Ioane
Barrett better than Dud
Arendse better than Clark
Sacha/Pollard better than DMac
Williams even with Perenara
Ox even with Williams
Marx even with Taylor
Malherbe better than Lomax
Etzebeth vastly better than any NZ lock
Mostert better than Barrett
Kolisi better than Caine
Dud Toit even with Blackadder
Savea better than Wiese
The Bomb squad massively better than the NZ bench. Given the choice we would probably pick Jordie and Savea, no one else.
The truth is many of the name AB players had a poor series. Beauden Barrett was a shadow of the former great player….Jordan a failure at 15…Ioane awful at 13, totally outplayed by Kriel.,,DMac dithered and missed key kicks..,Caine a nothing burger…even Savea was well below his best.
Some of these players are too old…others are out of position, others were just poor….Reece was a basket case, Tele’a ineffective, Lienert-Brown past it.
More crucially there was no leadership in this AB team….no senior players, Taylor excepted, who stepped up. These are the players who imploded against the Bargies in NZ.
It’s hilarious that the same posters who were touting our depth are now saying there is no talent edge over the ABs, all to protect Rasmus.
From ChatGTP
The All Blacks team that recently played against the Springboks in the 2024 Rugby Championship had an average of around 38 test caps per player. This was notable for being a relatively inexperienced squad by All Blacks standards, as they often field teams with higher average test caps
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The average number of test caps for the Springbok team that played against the All Blacks in their recent match in Cape Town was notably high, as South Africa fielded a very experienced side. Key players like Siya Kolisi, Eben Etzebeth, and Pieter-Steph Du Toit contributed significantly to this, each bringing over 70 caps. The total number of test caps among the starting 15 players was around 790, giving an average of approximately 52 caps per player.
Lol.
What a joke
No ways is Willie better than Beaden
No ways is Kolbe better than Jordan
Ione is definitely better than Kriel
Biggest joke is Mostert better than Scott Barrett - dream on - that’s not even close. Scott is world class Mostert a pretender
But more to the point here - the Bok players are not vastly superior to the AB ones as you maintain and in some cases the AB players are better
So as I said you are speaking utter shit and only a fool would have a Bok side down as a surety to beat an AB side by the margins you dream up. Get real it’s the All Blacks and the notion that this is an average AB side is a load of crap
Reality is the Bok side is a good one, coached by the best coach the Boks have ever had
"No ways is Kolbe better than Jordan"
Yes ways...Kolbe must be a contender for player of the year...Jordan is good but struggling for form of late.
Jordan is up there with Kolbe - yes Kolbe might have the edge right now but is certainly not vastly superior
Eben, PSDT and Ardie stand out in comparison to their opposite numbers but that’s it
Kolbe is the most dangerous back in world rugby. We just don't get the ball to him enough.
If ever there was a thread where BS reigned supreme it is this thread/ If any team lose in tests with margins bigger than 40 ponts that coach should not be replaced by Erasmus. That was the shit Mozart wrote in 2018 based on lies invented by him about Erasmus' career as a coach and rugby manager..
In the modern environment of Rugby the coaches fell under the management of he Director of Rugby of the fanchise or club and on national level. Erasmus left he Direcor Post of the Stormers to become The Dircor of Rugby in 2010 of the Stormers to join the structure of the Springbok team the Stormers started a collapse that lasted for Coetzee's rmainng peiod as Stormers coach.
After the disastrous performance of the Sprinboks in the 2011 RWC De Villiers were fired by SARU as National coach and Meyer was appointed as Springbok head coach. Erasmus approached Meyer to suggest a basis iro which they could work together to improve the team - but Meyer refused such co-operation and turned into a disster as coach. By 2014 the Spingboks was piss poor and lost out of 9 tests played in the period November 2014 to September 2015 the disaster was evident - the Springboks won only 3 matches. One of the wins were agaist a very poor Argentine team ni a warm up match for eh RWC of 2015 and the Springboks lost all the RC matches in 2015 and the last loss was the Japan Disaster in he RWC.. SARU effectively fired Meyer by telling him an extension of his conract as Springbok Head coach will not be cosniderd and he was succeeded by Coetzee - a coach even worse than De Villiers and Meyer were combined.
Erasmus saw that there was nothing but further detruction of Springbok rugby in SA. He resigned as SA Director of Rugby - and accepted a similar post as Director of Rugby of Munster, In his conmtract with Munster was on his request a provision that Erasmus would be released from his Munster contract. The Head Coach of Munser died of heart attack in January 2017 and in 2017 Erasmus and until he left Munster in March 2018 was both Director and Head coach of Munster and Van Gran that used to be an Assistant of Meyer as Springbok coach was taken n by Erasmus that was of great cale to Van Graan. Munster had a top year and in 2017 Munste which in both the European Heineken Cup series and the URC. In 2017 Erasmus became the Irish coach of the Year - sonmething neither White nor De Villiers, Meyer or Coezee achieved after they left the Springboks.
When Erasmus replaced Coetzee in 2018 Mozart came with a classic comment that SARU should have rather retaned Coetzee than appoint Erasmus. What was ineresing about Meyer was his appointment as Head Coach of Stade d' France and Coetzee's appoinmet as coach of Canon Eagles Japan, By mid 2019 both teams were heading to disaster and relegation and both were fired for gross icompetence by the clubs concerned. They were viciously poor as bth Springbok and club coaches - but supported by piss-head Mozart.
When Easmus took over the job left vsacant by Coetzee in 2018 the Springboks were rankd 7th in the world. By October 2019 they were ranked the no 1 team in the World - but Mozart rearded it as m being a total diaster as coach and his prma donna attack on Erasmus neve stopped and is still ongoing now for 6 ears of shit reading., .
The abve showed how really deicated some of the site members are SA rugby be destroyed and hat indeed is pathetic BS they spread. .
Lots of claims Yolk. Give us your combined starting team. Mine would be:
Willie, Kolbe, Kriel, Barrett, Ioane, Pollard, Williams.
Ox, Marx, Malherbe, Eben, Dud Toit, Blackadder, Kwagga, Savea.
Exactly 4 ABs make it.
Eggshell here we go
Barrett, Kolbe, Ione, de Allende, Jordan, Sacha, Perenara, Ox, Taylor, Malherbe , Eben, Scott Barrett, Kolisi, PSDT, Savea
But that’s not the point now is it - you ignorantly claimed the Kiwi players were vastly inferior which is complete crap
As the likes of Tele’a, Clarke, Reece, Jordie Barrett, McKenzie, de Groot, Lomax and Blackadder come close to making that combined side as do Willie, Arendse, Kriel, Am, Pollard, Williams, Bongi, Marx and Wiese
Pfffft….Ioane was awful, Braden Barrett is lost at 15, Perenara can’t even make the NZ starting team, Marx would get the hooker nod to keep the front row unit intact.
Bullshit Beauden is a class act wherever he plays
Ione is far better than Kriel
Perenara started the first test and is better than Reinach
Williams is still to set test rugby alight but he has hardly started there
Marx does not start for the Boks when he should so it’s Bongi or Codey and on current form Codey takes it
McKenzie is a class act - a few kicks don’t define him, I’m not that stupid
Tele’a is one of the best wings in the game
I’m a Bok fan calling it as it is - Reinach, Kriel, Bongi and Mostert/Nortje should not be starting for the Boks - add the better options and those 4 positions are taken up by Boks. I could say the same about Willie at 15 - Fassi and Willemse are better options
But the genius disagrees and so do I.
Add Will Jordan and Wallace Sititi to the list of ABs with a claim to a spot in the combined side.
The genius is not perfect
Anyone thinking Mostert is a test quality lock is certainly not perfect
But that does not make him any less the best Bok coach we have ever had
Ok
Lets get this straight and I have a question to you 3 - Mozart, Pakie and Mpower Please tell us since Erasmus accordng to you is a rugby idiot ad a poor coach - who do you 3 think should be the Springbok Head Coach and why.
Lets get this straight and I have a question to you 3 - Mozart, Pakie and Mpower Please tell us since Erasmus accordng to you is a rugby idiot ad a poor coach
Perhaps after you tell me what gave you that idea.
Go back tro your contuously on the fct Erasmus selct te wrong plaers, that he has no planing for player develop,emt mad tepacement;; that there is no dvelopment in Springbok rugby plannng and implementation of attacking rugby/
So a reucd your posts to the description you factually confrm our real thinking about Erasmus,
But that is not the issue here - who in your mind should replace Erasmus as Sprngbok coach? That is the question - one name please.
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Give Razor the Bok players and Rasmus the AB players….what’s the result. My guess is Razor by 20.