And doing my final fact check I found this:
Yes, Damian de Allende has played for the Barbarians rugby team. He played for them in a match against South Africa in Cape Town, which took place on June 28, 2025.
AI clearly thought Dud’s efforts were so flaccid, they listed him as a Barbarian player!
Seriously though as an Alphabet shareholder this is a pretty pathetic AI failure,
That was the game where he kicked the dribble thingy for Jessie Kriel to score. Jessie was also playing for the Barbarians and Kurtley Arendse was just too late to stop the try.
Yep just watched the highlights…you were right about the overlap …commit two tacklers and the try was a trot in.
How embarrassing
Indeed...
Absolutely the Barbarians reject the player we have picked almost 100 times
How could they have rejected him if he played for the Barbarians and scored a try?
This should be interesting
Gosh Dave you are a plank….I quoted AI and then pointed out they had their facts wrong, he played for the Boks in that game.
Admit you forgot he even played against the BaaBaas only 2 months ago….this should be interesting
This turned out to be an inadvertent Stinggggg!
Are you interested Draaadtjie……waaaaahhaha!
The only fucking plank is you
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Haha…..yes that is annoying, I thought you were referring to my post above and my search never turned up any other reference to him playing for the BaaBaas. I’m suitably embarrassed…your set Dave.
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So Jessie Kriel scored against Argentina off the DDA dribble? I'll have to ask Mike, he'll know.
Obsession...and a fail...almost as bad as your rants against Jacque Fourie back in the day...similar to Beeno's hate on Matfield...what is strange though is that you've managed to drag in a few others with you...
Mozart is pathetic in hs hatred of De Allende which started in 2014 and is continuing, In 2015 the Sprngbok squad selected by Meyer for the RWC was a pathetic mess. Of the 31 players selected 8 players were unplayable for a variety of reasons. The fact is De Allende was lucky he did not play in the Japan Disaster - but it took the 8 failures out of contention and the same players had to play for all the remaining matches played. There is a reason for the selecion of a 31 player limit in RWC. The idea was and remains that against weaker teams the main component of the team will get breaks from playing - but in 2015 it was not possible and when tte play-off's came around the selected team had to play continuously in all tests, In the winning try by the Japanese Kriel was accused as causng the loss - but the real loss was dfferent - it was a royal fuck-up with the experienced players buggering up royally. Keeping the Japan team in a competitve position. Mattfield ignored he instuctions given to him as to forward play and he was to blame for the fiasco, The fact is that Lambie was replaced at flyhalf - but he was not allowed to get the ball from the scrummies - all he had to do was to get te ball when a relieving kick was necessary. Van Heerden passed the ball over 50 times - of those only 9 passs went to Pollard at fyhalf - the rest went back to forwards or in a few cases directly to De Allende.
What was weird was in the semi - Mozart invented a reason to attack De Allende.for the try scored by Barrett/ What actually happened was that Nonu s tarted running not at the opposition but accross the field and De Allende and De Allende had to follow him. Intially the lie was that De Allende followed him and tackled him - but Pieterse did not guard Barrett and stood dead still when the Allende tackled Nonu he managed to pass to Barrett who scored, No expert ever blamed De Allende for that try and when confronted on that issue Mozart claimed he is the best rugby analyst in the world, It was all BS - same as the fact is about all the other stories Mozart spread.anout De Allende - he even invented a try scoring opportunity in the 2019 final that was total BS and he lied abut what actually happened. The attack never reached the 22 meter line and was stopped when Le Roux was tackled and De Allende protected the ball ensurng there were no ball turn-over.
There is at least another dozen lies about performances involving De Allende and that include the try scored by De Allende in the Wales test where he claimed Biggar did not tackle him - but he was not the only defender to try and stop the try - in the final moment before the score two Welsh defenders tried to stop De Allnde from scoring and failed. So Mozart initially ignored he scoring of the try and then invemted a llie to explain the situation/ He used to write.Morzoscopes on rugby matches and stopped that because it was a concoction of BS totally unrelated to what actually happened in matches,
The we get the soc-called "process tackles". When a player he hated make tackles it is Process tackles but when palyes hes upport made tckles it s not process tackles although nobody else ever used that term and one wonders what the term really means other to demean the tackles amde by hated players.
In the end virtually all Mozart's contributions are manuafactured BS. Really pathetc shit. He manufactured a story about tryscoring and referred to Dane Gerber who never played at 12 - but at 13 where there is more space to operate. However, Gerber's last test was played 33 years ago and that ws the era where the emphasis in rugby changed to forward dominated play and the backline became defense only operations Mozart called that BS Traditional Springbk Rugby" .
Now De Allende is a failure because he was never palying for the Barbarians. The llende came t the forwad when the Springboks started playing a dfferent brand of rugby under Erasmus, And that was onmgoing in 2024 after a brief decline in 2021 to 2023. What is real supershit spreading is that in 2024 the Springboks had the highst try scoring team in internaional rugby in the world - yet it went straight over the head of the Erasmus hatred on site.
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I’m not going to bother correcting your Dud Allende missed defensive assignment that took us out of WC 2015….I have done it many times.
As for your latest about mistaken attack, about Gerber, he played 24 tests, 12 as an inside center, 12 as an outside center. And he scored 10tries as an inside center/9as an outside center.
Once again you open your groot bek and once again you play the fool. Give up man you are clueless. Maybe you had a few marbles once…you’ve lost them
| Loose-head Prop | Ockie Oosthuizen | Tvl | 29 | 7 | |
| Hooker | Chris Rogers | Tvl | 27 | 0 | |
| Tight-head Prop | Hempies du Toit | WP | 30 | 3 | |
| Lock | Rudi Visagie | OFS | 24 | 0 | |
| Lock | Schalk (snr) Burger | WP | 28 | 0 | |
| Flank | Rob Louw | WP | 29 | 15 | 1 try |
| Flank (C) | Theuns Stofberg | WP | 28 | 19 | |
| Eighthman | Gerrie Sonnekus | OFS | 31 | 1 | |
| Scrumhalf | Divan Serfontein | WP | 29 | 15 | |
| Flyhalf | Errol Tobias | Boland | 34 | 2 | |
| Left Wing | Carel du Plessis | WP | 23 | 2 | 1 try |
| Inside Centre | Danie Gerber | EP | 26 | 11 | 1 try |
| Outside Centre | John Villet | WP | 29 | 0 | |
| Right Wing | Avril Williams | WP | 23 | 0 | |
| Full Back | Johan Heunis | N-Tvl | 26 | 4 | 3 conversions, 5 penalties |
And a fail…..how a fail Draad? .Because he was chosen once for a Barbarian team made up heavily of Bok players and no NH players who obviously weren’t available. No center in the history of test rugby has wasted more good ball
No word from either groot bek…typical.
:-) you know... ;-)
Mozart
You are not a plank at all - although you are as thick as a brick and stupid prejudiced beyond normal belief. The Barbarians had to find out w hether a player is available to play before they make selections. Esterhuizen played for his English club and may have been available to play - but how did you know whether De Allende was available to play for the Barbarians or whether Erasmus gave his clearance to such an election. If he is in any squad during the period the Barbarians play - he would NOT be released.
This thread more or less was the worst idiocy I have ever seen on site, .
Clever just admit you were dead wrong and Gerber scored more tries for the Boks as inside center. Draad you’ll have to explain your little message to me a little more fully….go ahead don’t be timid,
I cannot remember Gerber ever played at 12 - but that was over 30 years ago. In every match I saw him play whether on club, provincial or national level he wore the number 13 jersey. It may be that for some reason Gerber too up the 12 position in matches - but that would not reflected in thes tats - so you are grabbing at S trows again. . .
To make statements that the Barbarians would not have De Allende is the graatest idiocy ever imagibnable because you have zero proof about the issue and it is a shit deduction dreamed up in a besorted mind. How many threads have you started about De Allende this week? You have zero idea about the issue and is just busy shitspreading.
If you thnk Esterhuizen with 20 tests played scored ZERO TRIES and made 1 Dubious try assist - what makes him a better center than De Allende. You eaplain that to me - and don't start with IF - prove something real for a change,
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So this is what you said:
’Really pathetc shit. He amnufactured a story about tryscoring and referred to Dane Gerber who never played at 12 - but at 13 where there is more space to operate.’
Turned out the pathetic shit was your’s. Apologize like man.
Go ahead Saaiman, you can do it…,,if you want to make up facts to attack others, you have to own it,
"Clever just admit you were dead wrong and Gerber scored more tries for the Boks as inside center. Draad you’ll have to explain your little message to me a little more fully….go ahead don’t be timid,"
Life is too short...
PS didn't Gerber play a few mathes on the wing?
PPS...Gerber had 13 on his back even if he played inside center...his number only changed when he started playing wing.
He played wing for WP at the end of his career.
Mozart
I’m not going to bother correcting your Dud Allende missed defensive assignment that took us out of WC 2015….I have done it many times.
The above rsulted from a totally distorte satory you ivented about the cident, I t started off with a lie about De Allende in the end not tackling Nonu - which was BS anway, But then who is to argue against the self-proclaimed best analyst of performances of rugby players in the world? So no further comment on the above quote needed since it is indeed BS.
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Mozart
I’m not going to bother correcting your Dud Allende missed defensive assignment that took us out of WC 2015….I have done it many times.
The above rsulted from a totally distorte satory you ivented about the cident, I t started off with a lie about De Allende in the end not tackling Nonu - which was BS anway, But then who is to argue against the self-proclaimed best analyst of performances of rugby players in the world? So no further comment on the above quote needed since it is indeed BS.
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Not big enough to admit you were wrong….you never are. So the Barrett try.
NZ get the ball deep in our 22. It’s a simple Dud on Nonu/ JP on Barrett situation there is no overlap.
But Dud hasn’t moved far enough across to comfortably cover Nonu….he is also two steps behind Pollard and a step behind JP leaving a nice chink in our line.
‘Nonu runs into that space…….Dud lopes across, then finally realizes Nonu is serious and starts accelerating. Then Nonu does a stutter step and stands him up.
Nonu set off again…..as does Dud, it’s unclear if Dud is going to reach him and JP has to come in to prevent the straight try. Dud running straight across on the shorter angle finally gets to Nonu after he has covered 20 metres. But JP is committed and a pop pass to Barrett gets the try which puts NZ in the lead.
What did Dud do wrong? He was out of position laterally and 2 steps behind Pollard. Being out of position he needed to accelerate flat out…he lopes initially. Then when he could still have pulled off the tackle he gets stood up by Nonu.
If he is in a line with Pollard laterally and directly opposite Nonu he would have been in position to make the tackle….it was a 2 on 2. Earlier you see Bismarck Du Plessis bringing down Nonu to prevent a try….where was Dud?
Also on this video you will see Lomp missing a simple tackle on Kaino for the other NZ try. And Pollard drilling his kicks. This team was not much different tactically from our 2023 team. Two players simply missed their defensive assignments
https://www.world.rugby/tournaments/videos/117777/rugby-world-cup-2015/match-highlights-south-africa-v-new-zealand
Udicoy cxaused ft he B S you came up as to th e Barrett ty i n 2015. If you know anything about ab ckline play jr inside center always take up a position behind the lyhlaf - your claim that he was out of line was a lie again. You never emntioned what happened. Every wprd you wrote abovce si a misrepresentation - ir better still an outright lie. Nonu that not attack the line he started running across the filed to try and get away from De Allende and DE A Allende and he did kept up standing whe D E Allende ta ckle him. As he was going down he off-loaded the ball to Barrett with Pitersens tanding like a statue watching what appened without the ened to protect a gainst such an off-load,
The more you repeated that incidenr he more you invented more lies. The fact is no expert and news reporter ever claimed that De Allende as the cause of the try being scored - but in your pissbrain you invemted it.
So now another one. I do not blame De jager for that miss - because of Matffield being in the squad he had to play in every test since the Japan Disaster and aside form that Matfield fucked up royally after he replaced De jager and that as much caused a Springbok loss as you blame oher people for. After Matfield came on in the first line-out her was outjumed by Whitelock and five minutes later he tried a neck wrestle after the ref awarded a very kickable penalty to the Springboks. Incdentally Matfield was as useless as 8 of the other squad members who were shit ersonfied - causing players like De Jager t start in every test in the 2015 tournament after experienced players caused the loss by the team in their first match against Japan. By he time a player like De jager was completely tired out and the same applied to De Allende as well.
Have you ever known why the RWC squad comprise of 31 playes? It is because of he eneed to rest players dyring the tournament. The fact that their were 8 unplayable players in that squad caused a situation where nobody could be rested and that was one of the reasons for Myer to be fired effectively in 2015 and also fired by Stade Francaise - he wa a clueless coach and was fired because he was incomptent and destroying teams he coached.
By the way it must have been shock to your deadhead rugby idiocy when the Sringboks won the 2023 RWC so realizing you are simply prejudced beyond believe my sympahy goes out to you.
Now a final question - why is Esterhuizen your choice at 12 afterscring no tries in 20 tests. I asked you how you justify that BS and you went quiet, Would like to hear from you on that one - so hee it is again. On whst basis did you select Esrhuizen.to replace De Allende,- so please tell us and leave the lies out stupid idiot.
By he time a player like De jager was completely tired out and the same applied o De A llende as well.
De Jager, a 22-year old test player "completely tired out" after playing the following minutes with 7 days between each game:
Japan - 67 minutes
Samoa - 26 minutes
Scotland - 74 minutes
USA - 62 minutes
Wales - 80 minutes
That's 309 minutes.
Jerome Kaino (31), who De Jager failed to tackle, had also played in all 5 the previous games for the ABs for a total of 349 minutes. He didn't look "completely tired out", did he, at almost 10 years older than De Jager?
Duane Vermeulen at 29 played 4 x 80 minute games before the semi for 320 total minutes. Was he tired out as well?
De Allende did not play against Japan. His minutes for the matches before the semi are 47, 74, 59 and 80 for a total of 260 for a 23-year old. So he was completely tired out? We're supposed to be believe a 23-year old test player cannot complete 5 tests in a row without being completely tired out?
Now dof Mozart
How many minutes did St Matfield played dimness.
And as far as I can remember Kaino was a loosie - and as per normal you cimpare him to De Jager who played a lock. Very real comparison dimness.and knowledgable experts will never make, Another efort at spreading shit.
By the way Matfield legt t he field s howing no inury at mnut 13 f e Samoa match and e ws replaced by De Jager, So please tll us how that 80 minus 13 now amuonts to 26 Minutes, Nobody knows what injury Matffield sustained - he just walked off the field and did not appear in the playing team until the semi-final were he buggered up riyally. when coming up to replace De Jager.
The tight plays as grinders and are regularly replaced earlier than other players - so the brilliant site BS spreade came up with an embarrassing now BS story,
I wonder how you manage to compare icomparabe isues by speading BS on site.
So I asked you a real question - how di you jsutify ssupport of St Estrh uizen wh en eh scored n tries at all in 20 matches, S till waiting for that one stupid,
Stop talking rubbish Clever.
The inside center does NOT come up 2 metres behind the flyhalf.
The inside center does not line up 2 metres to the left of his direct opponent
The inside center does not let his opposite run 20 metres on a diagonal inside the 22.
The inside center does not get bamboozled by a stutter step in a try scoring position.
When it’s a two on two inside the 22 the inside center recognizes his responsibility to quickly stop his opponent.
This incident was eerily similar to the Mo’unga incident…..Dud laying off his opponent, Dud getting gassed, Dud falling for a stutter step. Who else was supposed to be responsible for Nonu who had a free run to our 5 meter line.
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What damn inside center in modern rugby lies 2 metres behind the offside line 15 metres from his line?? Dud Allende was hopelessly out of position and hopelessly slow to respond.
By the way Matfield legt t he field s howing no inury at mnut 13 f e Samoa match and e ws replaced by De Jager, So please tll us how that 80 minus 13 now amuonts to 26 Minutes,
Here is Matfield leaving the field at minute 54. You can see it in the full match video at 1:14:50.
As usual you do nothing but lie, lie and then lie some more.
Who said he was 2 meters behind and if NONU ran at him - which he did not do bcause he was hurt in the previous test trying to do it and left the field injured and learned a bitter lession in the pocess. Nonu tried to run accross the field in an effort to get away from De Allende and in the end failed despite your lie about the tackling firstly not happening and now he stood up while he in fact did not. I am not even going to relook at your BS - you lied too many times coming up with different stories when your previous lie was disproved - so rechecking it would be a waste of time.
De Allende was in the position about a meter behind the line of - you do not even know when that so-cloaied 2 meters happened ir being dreamed up by you like you lied about that imaginary trscorng opportity that you invented in the 2019 final. It was BS from he word go and was never even a remote tryscoring opportunty - it was just another Mozart lie.
By the way I am nt going to respond to your BS about Gerber - because it is distorted idiocy. A man wearing a number 13 Jersey may occassionally switch positions in mayches and lne up dfferntly - but it was t e frst tome ever that a man wearig the no 13 Jersey now suddenly played a whole match at inside center wearing the no 13 jersey.
What was difrent before 1992 was that the playing style of the Springboks changed to a ten-man game plan with te rest of the backline only there for defensive purposes. You called that Traditional Springbok Rugby at e time, There were brief periods under Christie, Du Plessis and Mallett (who inherited the squad put together by Du Plessis which fell apart when he had to start making changes to the squad and Mallett lost he plot,
The High Priest of ten-man rugby was Jake White - who had the luck of a poxdoctor in the 2007 RWC and in the end the Springboks won in 2012 because there were 5 converted penalties, There was as always no plan under the idiot coaches following the Jake Fiasco plan - kick the sot out of the ball. Jake had another record though and that was he copped being fired as a failed coach on 4 occasions during his coaching career and always for the same reasons.
White was just a limited ability coach. comfined to playng ten man rugby and wih no real game plan to find potential weak spots in opposing teams. He never even considered backlines of haing multimal obectives - namely an attacking mechanism as well as a defending one. However, White had a pronlem all along - which he shared with Meyer and Coetzee - in 2014 there was a real initiative developed where coaches can follow the tendencies and techniques of both the Springboks and their opposition team idetifying strategies to enhance the backline in attacking as well as identifying what attacking strategy would be followed iro scoring of exploiting wdeaknesses in opposing playes, That always influenced coaching under Erasmus and was proven in 2024 ended up in the Springboks scoring most tries of any test team in 2024, That while Mozart and co went on a campaign aganst De Allende and that on behalf of he try-deficient 31 year old Esterhuizen. Amazing BS supreme,
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Nothing to say about your lie about when Matfield left the field against Samoa, ou Maaik?
‘Who said he was 2 meters behind and if NONU ran at him - which he did not do bcause he was hurt in the previous test trying to do it and left the field injured and learned a bitter lession in the pocess. Nonu tried to run accross the field in an effort to get away from De Allende and in the end failed….’
Hahaha, now Nonu ran across field because he was afraid of Dud’s tackle. The men in white coats are coming,
Did Nonu run accross the field - according to you he did not. That is the lie of yours why no real rugby analyst ever blamed De Allende for the try scored by Barrett - you invented BS and post a statement of 2 meters behind Pollard made on a guess by you - There is no real evidence supporting that statement ever. When the ball went to the scrummie all players normally start to move up in defense and there is no proof whatsoever that your shit has any real evidence at all. Another shit lie invented by you.
I asked you how your constant attacks fit in wth yur support for St Eterhuizen - who in 20 test matches NEVER scored a try. I asked you before on that one and you ignored the question. Reason - your pet hatred of De Allende is all that count in your totally besotted brianless hatred of Erasmus and certain of the players he selected.
By the way - you invented lies trying to discredit De Allende.you attack me for stating that Esterhuien in 20 matches had 1 try assist. I think that assist did not do anything bar passing the ball to the wing - he did not draw in any defenders and created an overlap, But I would accept that as 1 try-assist in 20 matches played, So in his 89 matches - how many try assists are De Allende credited with. Based on his record it is definitely going to exceed 10 - so let us know what the real figure is and don't try and lie again. .
I do not expect a response from you - you cannot be trusted on anything related to honesty - so please do not try any further stunts based on player hatred,
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Classical Simpleton…..he has his head handed to him on the string about sending the A team early, so he comes back to the other string he has imploded on….3 days later and repeats all his debunked arguments. It is unique I have to admit that.
Mozart
You know yopua re spreading shit all the time and has been proed t do so by inventing lies as tow hat happened in matches - but tell us why you support the 31 year-old Esterhuien with his average to rather poor test perormances over the past 7 years to replace De Allende?
You obviously are a coward who spread shit - but do not answer questions about the shit you spread, So tell us shitbrain - are you going to answer the Esterhuizen question at all.
Correction….I don’t answer your questions Simpleton. But I will answer this one. I watched Esterhozen play his club rugby up north. He was outstanding at putting his 13 into space….by using his power to commit tacklers and deftly offloading at the right moment.
More powerful than Dud, a much better distributor of the ball and a player who can read the game. His best years have been wasted and DrLucky has only developed a new interest in him because he likes the idea of a sub who can play in the backline and on the side of the scrum.
But we all know offloading is not part of Lucky’s game plan. So we won’t see the best of Esterhozen. Under instructions he’ll crash ball like Dud leaving our structured back play where it is….nowhere.
There is the world a little clearer to you now?
It amazes me how a person can lie over and over again, and believe that people will take his opinion seriously?!
Delusional in a unexplainable way and actually the Biggest shit spreader of them all!
N o it so nmt thee xpamation I asked for Mozart.
What you came u on vlb levvel in Eng land is ntmal self-opiniomated BS. Frpm you that is to be expected No proof - sero = but that has never been roved on fanchise elvel thsis ear and defintely not on test elvel.
The question was simple - if Esterhuizen was as good as you claimed why in 2- tests plaed did h e not scored a single try and you then came back in one try assist - which was a dubious one. So back to t e question Mozart cannot find a single reason for and he has to revert to BS as an answer. So tell me idf Esterhizen was so good why in 20 test played he had no tries scored and only ne rather dbious try assist in tests,
Generalization of things like pace and strength is you cannot prove at all is what you come up with. So where sis strength an issue in center play. Those are line breaks and breaown ball protectio where De Allende is vastly better than Esterhuzen ever was. So why is that the case? The orher issue relates to 2018 tests played in tests by the two players. In his five tests Esterhuizen amde 22 tackles and missed 5 tackles and in his equivalment matches De Allende made 42 tackles and missed 5. So eplainthat one to me too.
The oter issue Mozarr is clearly unaware of - there is a difference between club and franchise rugby on the one hand and test rugby. Some players of which Esterhuizen is a real example flop because they fail to make the step up from Club/franchise level to test level - s rvinga bout Esterhizen on slow wet foelds is one thing on test level it is entirely dffernet situation.
Sotrya gain and th is time come up with real examples as well as dreamed-up BS.
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It occurred to me that one way of testing the sincerity of the UK apparent admiration for Dud Allende is to see which foreign centers have been invited to play for the Barbarians. Here’s the AI list, with some amusing quirks:
There have been numerous non-UK centers who have played for the Barbarians Rugby Club over the years. The Barbarians are an invitational side, and selection is based on the quality and conduct of the players, rather than their nationality
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Here is a non-exhaustive list of some non-UK centers who have represented the Barbarians:
The Barbarians pride themselves on their unique style of play, which emphasizes open, attacking rugby. The Barbarians have consistently invited top talent from around the world to showcase their skills in the famous black and white hooped jerseys.
… Jacques Fourie and JdV have also played for the Barbarians, but not the man who has played 89 tests for the Springboks