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Oct 29, 2024, 18:07

Springboks’ Handre Pollard lifts the lid on Rassie Erasmus’ famed man-management style

By John Goliath

Flyhalf Handre Pollard has debunked some of the myths surrounding Rassie Erasmus’ man-management methods, saying the Springboks’ coach isn’t exactly a drill sergeant.

Speaking on the For The Love Of Rugby podcast with Dan Cole and Ben Youngs, Pollard said there is more to Erasmus than meets the eye.

During Chasing the Sun 2, Erasmus famously scolded the players after the 2023 Rugby World Cup defeat against Ireland, especially zoning in on some of the experienced players in the group.

However, Pollard says part of Erasmus’ “genius” is to keep his players focussed on the job at hand and keeping them grounded, especially after they have achieved so much under his watch over the last six years.

“It’s not a militaristic, bash-you-down to keep you humble. It’s not that at all. It’s a real art. That’s what makes him so good. That’s why there’s not a lot of complacency in our group,” Pollard said on the podcast.

“The first thing he ever spoke about was entitlement. That’s the first thing that breaks a group up, if senior guys think they are important.

“That was way back when we started and it’s still something we live by. The influence that the older guys have on a group is so big. We’ve got a very different experience from our younger days to what we are giving the youngsters now. It’s different eras.

“There’s a lot you can say about him, but he’s a genius, isn’t he?”

Pollard also said Erasmus’ attention to detail when it comes to his players plays a massive role in how he manages a group of players from vastly different backgrounds.

Pollard revealed that Erasmus almost has a sixth sense in recognising when something is not 100% right within the group, before trying to sort it out as soon as possible.

“It’s an interesting one. It has sort of changed over the years because we’ve been together for a long time now,” Pollard said.

“He’s not the guy who is going to have his personal connection with the players, he’s not going to know your wife or baby’s names, he’s not going to know your family’s story.

“He’ll know where you grew up and your history. He believes a lot of that shapes you into the player you will become, if you’ve gone through some hardships then the hardships of rugby will be nothing for you.

“We don’t sit and have coffee together. He comes in and does his thing. But he can read the group like I’ve never seen before. Even before we can pick something up within the group, he’s known it for two weeks already. He’s seen it coming from a mile.

“When we need to be shocked a bit, he does that. Naturally, when you have success, you can be the best bunch of guys ever, but egos are going to develop. He sees that from a mile and just shocks you on a Monday morning and puts you back in your seat.

“That’s why he’s so good. He doesn’t miss anything. He’s quite often not there, but knows everything, knows exactly what’s going on and he can read and feel for the group. He knows when we need confidence and when we need to be put in our place.

“It keeps everybody very equal and extremely hungry. Especially the older guys, your big dogs like Pieter-Steph (Du Toit), Siya (Kolisi) and Eben (Etzebeth). It’s not a fear of if I’m still going to play or not, it’s that I’ve gotta prove myself every single day, otherwise I won’t play. It doesn’t matter who you are. That’s what makes him special.”

Oct 29, 2024, 18:12

Very mature of Pollard to overlook Rasmus’ almost disastrous overlooking of him for the WC

Oct 29, 2024, 19:45

Pollard is not stupid enough to have expected to have been selected when he had not played a minute of rugby at the time the WC squad was announced

Something you seem incapable of grasping

Oct 29, 2024, 23:53

I’m incapable of grasping why our genius coach would leave a WC winning flyhalf at home to take a 4th scrumhalf….I confess.

Oct 30, 2024, 01:22

Because that flyhalf had not played a game of rugby - what part of this fact are you missing?

Oct 30, 2024, 02:53

The part where there are no rules against taking an injured player close to recovery and if he doesn’t recover, swopping him out. But if he isn’t chosen he can only be called up if another player is injured. All verified by a ChatGTP search.


Oct 30, 2024, 03:40

Because of the replacment rule appicable to squat selection -  if he is injured and he is nomnated and canno play in WC matches he cannot be replaced.

Go back to 2015 in te case of Ja de Villiers by the time he was nominated to play in the WC - when he got inhure in the second match - Meyer could no eplace him     Anothe case was Willem Alberts - he was nminated during a time he was inhured and had nt played any rugby for more than a year - he did not play in any WC injury,    Meyer asked the WC Committee whether eh could replace Alberts and the answer came back as NO,     

Oct 30, 2024, 07:54

Well this was not the case with Pollard. R&N knew that Pollard was over the worst Part of his injury. He was not injured at that stage anymore.

Yes he did not have any game time, but was in full training without any hassles.

Rassie made the choice of taking Jan Pierewiet with. At that stage it was not yet completely obvious that he chokes in big moments with his clutch kicks.

Let’s face it, we were all thinking Manie is the next best thing. And yes he is a magic distributor, but only on occasion and mostly unluckily to inconsistent for Bok level.

Rassie shaw that vs Ireland and pooped in his pants as he knew that he needs good old Pollie there. It was a big mistake leaving him in the first place.

But Rassie had the luck on his side and it worked out that Pollard could go after all. It’s a pretty obvious story and not worth trying to argue against.

Oct 30, 2024, 11:26

Mpower

'They knew that Pollard was over the worst Part of his injury. He was not injured at that stage anymore."

Who were the  "they" you are referring to.    Did hey ahe the medical updaing repor tha indicated that Pollardd was fit to play in the RWC?.

Easmus would have had the medical progress report when the squad nominee wer submitted before 31 May 2023.    So he houht it was dicy to include Pollard at thats tage when he played no rugby at all in 2023 by the date of submission.

Ersmus si not te fool you people claim he is - he would have the real info to weigh up the situation at that time and obviously thought he could not take a chance with the Pollard selection.

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Oct 30, 2024, 12:07

Rassie and Nienhaber had all the medical info to make a calculated decision .

They made the wrong decision and thru lucky circumstances, with Marx and his injury Pollard could join.

These are the facts and it doesn’t matter how hard you argue or making up stories to suite your agenda, it won’t change the facts.

Would we have won the WC with Libbok as our primary kicker?? Not a chance!! Just face up to the facts that the " Genius " is far from perfect.

Oct 30, 2024, 12:36

Mpower

BS  - the doctors gave him a progress report that you have enver seen and cnow you claim that the decision was wrong.     Pollard retuned to play after completion of the  RC  6 eeks ater when ehs tarted to play for his club.\

That was two months after they had to submit the squad to the RWC,    h e is not a BSter like Meyer who picked players and hen found himself stranded with unplaybale players - 8 of them - whom he could not rplacxe because of BS selection of non-playing players.

You could not be sure about what the emedical rogress report conained neither tdo I - but if the report said Pollard may be able to return to play by mid-September 2023 the decision was the right one at the time.   Remember about the recent Shaca case - the doctors said he could play in November and then changedit to January 2025.    

To claim that Erasmus and Nienaber made the wrng decision without any real evidnce you are talking  BS.    Because e started to play more than two months later is not proof that the decision taken i may was wrong..   After he fact occurenes is no evidence at all at the time the decision had to be taken.   

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Oct 30, 2024, 14:39

FFS we have been through all this before. I did a ChatGTP search which confirmed there is NO rule saying a player who started the WC injured can not be replaced if he doesn’t recover in time to play.

Oct 30, 2024, 15:30

BS

Since when is Chat/GP the authrotiy on such issues,    There are very clear precedents,   Why could Meyer not replace De Villiers and Alberts in 2015.   The reason was both were sufered from injuries and Fat Alberts had so many fat tears that he did not play any  rugby for 14 months when the squad list had to be submitted to the RWC - he same can bes aid of De Villier who had played no rugby since November 2022,    

When De Villiers was injured the logical thing to do was to call up a replacement but the RWC did not allow him to do so.    During th series Meyer threatened to replace Alberts - but again the RWC orgnizers  put an end to it and would not allow it.

Spf FFS  stop be a raving idiot when it comes it this issue - anybody who believe your ravings would alsio believe he moon is amde o green cheese.

   

Oct 30, 2024, 15:55

Permanent replacement

A player may be replaced if injured. An injured player may not return once replaced. 3.22.

https://passport.world.rugby › ... Law 3. Team - World Rugby Passport

Oct 30, 2024, 19:06

Fine - but that implies with emphasis on MAY these replacement would have to get approval It does not tell us what guidlines the WC  committee follws in cnsidering approval.   That is where Meyer could not get approval for replacement of De Villiers and Alberts.     

Oct 30, 2024, 19:25

I agree with Maaik...Chat can't tell me where to find the applicable law/rule...the SS article said you can't replace an injured player who was injured at the time of squad selection...and I can remember these kind of discussions when Jean was in a race to prove his fitness before he could be considered for squad inclusion in 2024...maybe it's a SA Rugby policy or something...Chat is a tool, but not foolproof.

Oct 30, 2024, 19:34

Yes, at the Rugby World Cup, a team can replace a player who was injured at the time of squad selection, provided certain conditions are met.

According to World Rugby regulations, teams can replace players in their 33-player squad if they are injured, but the replacement must be medically verified and approved by World Rugby’s medical team.

Once a player is replaced, they cannot return to the tournament.

This rule allows teams to ensure they have a fully fit squad throughout the competition, although timing and approval are key factors in the replacement process.

Oct 30, 2024, 20:40

Mpower stop speaking shit - being nearly ready is not ready and nor is a player available for selection if he has not played a game to test his fitness

Why is this even being debated - are you and Moz stupid enough to believe Rassie would leave a fit and ready Pollard out of his WC squad huh?

Get fucking real

Talk about fucking stupidity

Oct 30, 2024, 20:58

At squad announcement time, Pollard was not completely Match fit that is true. But he was not injured anymore and back in training.

Knowing that, how do you explain the exclusion of your tried and tested, WC winning Flyhalf huh?? Honestly how difficult is that to understand??

R&N knew that they could take it easy on him in the first rounds of games and use that time to get him up to fitness, before the Knock out rounds.

But Rassie chose to take a untested Libbok with, that lost us the Irish game. The rest you know with the injury of Marx, that luckily allowed Pollard to join the Squad.

Oct 30, 2024, 21:16

Back in training means nothing until you have tested the injury in a game so that is the obvious reason he was not selected

But let’s ignore this fact. Do you honestly think Rassie would leave out a fit and ready Pollard out of his WC squad - a simple yes or no?

Oct 30, 2024, 21:23

Yes he did leave him behind and only luck saved his bacon.

And bye the way, when he did eventually join the squad he had 30 min of game time under his belt.

So the argument that he was left behind because he wasn’t completely match fit, falls flat. 30 min of game time hardly counts as completely match fit.

Oct 30, 2024, 21:27

So you are saying Rassie left out a ready and fit Pollard

If that is the case you are lying

30 min of rugby is more than enough of a test to prove you are over your injury - if you don’t know that then best you give up on rugby

Oct 30, 2024, 21:53

Nothing changes the fact that only because of tremendous circumstantial luck, did Pollard join the squad and provided the catalyst for us to win the WC .

This was all because of Rassie,s dumb decision to leave a nearly Ready Pollard behind.

If you cannot read the signs as a coach that a player that you supposed to know so well, will be ready , then you shouldn’t coach at that level.

Hope he learned out of his mistakes, because next time he will definitely not have that kind of luck. And leaving everything to chance and luck, is definitely not very intelligent.

Oct 30, 2024, 22:39

There is no coach on this planet who would be stupid enough to select a player that has not played a rugby match in months

Only a fucking idiot would think differently

Thankfully Rassie is not an idiot

Oct 30, 2024, 22:40

This from Chat GTP, which for the record has no opinion on this beyond a much more comprehensive search than an individual could typically do:


Yes, if a player is injured at the time the squad is initially selected and it becomes clear they won’t recover in time to participate, that player can still be replaced. However, teams need to follow World Rugby's procedures, which typically require:

  1. Medical evidence to support that the player cannot participate due to injury.
  2. Approval from World Rugby’s medical committee to authorize the replacement.



At the 2023 Rugby World Cup, several players traveled with their teams but were ultimately replaced without ever taking the field due to injuries that did not improve in time:

  1. Emoni Narawa (New Zealand) - Selected despite a back injury, Narawa was replaced by Ethan Blackadder before he could participate in any games after it became clear his recovery wouldn’t be fast enough to contribute.
  2. Luca Bigi (Italy) - Bigi, Italy’s hooker, was replaced by Marco Manfredi after his injury prevented him from making an appearance. His lingering issues meant he was unable to be cleared for play, and Manfredi filled his spot on the roster.

Oct 30, 2024, 22:42

How much game time did Kolisi have before the squad was announced?

Oct 30, 2024, 23:01

He played against Wales and NZ before the WC started whereas Pollard was not match ready until the weekend before he was called into the squad

Huge difference

Oct 30, 2024, 23:06

Some countries are clearly ok with selecting injured players in their squad - that’s their prerogative

Rassie is on record saying that players have to meet certain fitness criteria before they can be considered for selection - one being that they be match tested before the competition

They have a whole fitness protocol the players have to meet before being selected

Oct 30, 2024, 23:09

World Rugby’s regulations allow a team to replace an injured player at the Rugby World Cup, even if that player was already carrying an injury when the squad was initially selected. This rule is grounded in player welfare considerations, allowing injured players to be replaced if it becomes evident they cannot recover in time to participate in any matches. Each replacement, however, requires World Rugby’s official approval, which mandates medical documentation proving that the injury prevents the player from playing in the tournament.

Under Regulation 9, player release and replacement are subject to verification of injury status to safeguard player health and maintain team integrity. This protocol is designed to be flexible enough to accommodate players who may need to travel with the squad while their fitness is assessed and, if necessary, be replaced later if they are unable to recover in time for competition


Oct 30, 2024, 23:28

Everything from not picking another specialist hooker, four scrum half’s and leaving your star Flyhalf behind, is the behaviour of a A Grade Poephol.

Especially with no laws preventing you from taking a player with, that is not completely match Fit.

Pollard was not injured anymore, so that is even dumber.

WC 23 Victory would not have happened without the dump Truck full of luck, warrior like defence and Pollard….Facts.

Oct 31, 2024, 00:03

Ah so Rassie with 2 WC’s, a Lions series and two RC’s is a poepol

Fuck right off you ignorant twit

Oct 31, 2024, 00:18

Yes he did win 2 WC , Lions series, 2 RC,s and he did strengthened our Forward play again, but that doesn’t change the fact, that he is also a Poephol!

And his Poephol Moves is still carrying on in 24 with his dumb ass Player selections.

Congrats Dave as you join Rassie, as our very own Ruckers Poephol :) Well done !

Oct 31, 2024, 00:21

Dave

Both Mozart and Mpower is hallutionating,    I gave them the examples of  De Villiers and Alerts in 2015 - where WR refuse to allow them to be replaced and hey wiould not bcause he whole onject of their BS is a desperate case of  their constant efforts to belittle Erasmus.

I challenged  them to indciate who they wan Erasms replaced with and Mpower came up with a list of shit inclusicve of Jake White and poined out that any coaches fired by their fracnhse or clubs should never be on his list and White was one of those,

A noth er example is Ben C urry in the England squad,   He was the top England Loosie in 2019 - but injured at the time the list was submitted - so England did not put Ben Curry on their squad list - but included his younger brother Tom Curry on their squad list.    Tom Curry made a huge name for himself in thta tournament - but what is of importance is why did England left Ben Curry of their squad list if there was no prolem should he not be able to continue playing if he played in the WC abd got injured again - that is beyond their level of understanding.  .   .     

The obvious BSter Mozart  - coward as he is - did not repond to it, 

Is it not time that some memebrs realize that heir repetitive BS is boring? 

  

Oct 31, 2024, 00:22

And currently with the 2nd ranked team despite the  overwhelmingly best talent. One win out of four  against Ireland despite having a 2 to 1 home field advantage. What are the Harrassmiss tactics….box kicks, defense, scrumming penalties and mauls. And gimmicks no lasting new tactics. 

Oct 31, 2024, 00:25

Uncle Mike please eat something, you getting awfully grumpy…..it might be low blood sugar.

"Is it not time that some memebrs realize that heir repetitive BS is boring? "

- Honestly Uncle Mike, not trying to upset you, but maybe practice what you preach.

Oct 31, 2024, 00:41

But dimness - ciurrently the Springboks are the RC cup holders and lost he one test against Ireladn after beating them in the first test and the margin betwen Ireland and SA is extremely thin.   The fact is that Ireland managed to win the second tests bcause of two dropped goals towrds he end of the 2nd test  and that makes everything so complicated by the drama queen on site.

Mozart 

If Erasmus is such a poor coach - give us the name of who you want as coach,             

Oct 31, 2024, 00:42

Only reason we are number 2 is because we sent a B side to Argentina and lost that thanks to a Manie miss bang in front of the poles

The Boks will be back at number 1 after the EOYT

Oct 31, 2024, 00:48

I thought Manie is such a class act Dave?

Well we will have tough games vs Scotties and Eng.? So if we play Positive Rugby, we stand a chance of winning yes.

Oct 31, 2024, 01:56

The Boks may be number one if NZ do what we apparently can’t do, beat Ireland. This was a super favorable year for Springboks…a RC where we played two away tests against Australia and two home games against our only real opposition in the RC …NZ. Followed by a year end tour against the three weakest opponents, England, Scotland and the Wallies.

You couldn’t have scripted it better. The next three years will be much harder and we will be able to see Erasmus more clearly.

Oct 31, 2024, 02:25

Well effectively losing one test since the WC is pretty bloody impressive by Rassie so no complaints there

The loss to the Argies with a B side hardly counts and the loss to Ireland was thanks to useless v Staaden and a drop

I’ll take that - the Boks are the best side in the game and by the end of the year we will be back to number 1

With the young talent coming through and our new attacking mindset we are going to get even better

England and Scotland weakest opponents - bullshit

Oct 31, 2024, 04:00

You think they are better than France and Ireland?

Oct 31, 2024, 09:26

Oh without doubt 100% we have better players in every position other than Doris at 8 for Ireland and DuPont at 9 for France

Plus we have the best coach in the business

Oct 31, 2024, 11:29

What about Charles Ollivon, Gregory alldritt? Josh van de Flier, Doris and Ryan Baird gave our loosies a uphill battle.

Then there hooker Ronan Kelleher had very good games. The Irish and the French is no push overs.

Oct 31, 2024, 12:57

I will choose a team that will beat Ireland and France with all players fit  ahd rcovered from injury:-

15    Fassie

14    Kole

13    Moodie

12    Willemse

11    Van der Merwe

10    Feinberg-Mngomezulu

9      Williams

8      Roos

7      Du Toit

6     Hanekom

5     Snyman

4     Etzebeth

3     Du Toit

2     Marx

1     Nche

16    Venter

17    Steenekmp

18     Malherbe

19     Schickerling

20     Tshituka

21     Hndrikse

22      Hesrikse

23      De Allende/Pollard

 


Oct 31, 2024, 13:17

You can’t start Hanekom and have him on the Bench to?? Hanekom is also comfortable at 8.

I would pick Elrigh Louw instead of Roos. Then my 12 Would be David Kriel and 13 Rikus Pretorius.

Willemse is a 15 and is very good there. But so is Fassi. One of them on the Bench instead of DR. Allendig .

Your wing is that Duhan V D Merwe?? His playing for the Scotties.

But if he would play for us that would be great. Otherwise what about Arendse?

Malherbe is a much stronger TH than Thomas. And Wilco is stronger than both of them.

Good team otherwise, Uncle Mike.

Oct 31, 2024, 13:45

Roos…he has been even less impressive than Jason Dixon. If JD was impressive provincially but a dud in tests ..,Roos too.

Oct 31, 2024, 13:52

By the way Dave, that wasn’t the question. I said Wales, Scotland and England were the weakest opponents…admittedly skipping over Italy. You said that was BS in your usual polite fashion. My question is do you rate Scotland. Wales and England above NZ’s opponents, France and Ireland?


Oct 31, 2024, 13:53

Is 21 and 22 Jordan and Jaden Hendrikse?

You can also pick one or two of Ruan Vermaak, Ruben van Heerden, Reinhardt Ludwig , Corne Rahl as Lock Cover.

Oct 31, 2024, 14:09

Thanks for pointing it out and buggereed up wth Hanekom.  

No Vn der Merwe who plays for the Lions.

I know mlherbe is better than any oher player at Tighthead at the moment - but he is older than the other players and I wold rather have him as a back-up in a team.   He is hardworking in tight forward play.

No I disagree about  Willemse - he is a natural 12 and has played at 12 regularly  in he past - a naural 12 anway.    I have seen Low play a number of imes and I think Roos would be a much  better link plaaaaayer adding to backline attacking play.   He  has much more pace than Louw,  

n picling  the above team I look at th startegy Brown brings to the Springboks game plan.  

I think Pollard and Kolisi will by 2027 both be in he coaching devlopment progam of Erasmus and Pollard may also be a player aas a back-up because of his goasl-kicker.   I like Wolhuter as a potential additiona flyhalf in that suad as well,     The oher potential flyhalfs leaves me sone cold,.    Erasmus may do with Pollardd that he did with Frans Steyn in 2019.   

I like Kriel as a center - but think he may be bettr at 13 than he is at 12.At present performances he is at present below the standaerd set by De Allende. for inside center usage.

Anyay - instad of the repetitive  posting about how por a coach erasmus is - I thried to fnd something about the future  and not the past that we can discusss a a topic anyway,   Maybe I should have started a ew hreat on the issue and then  gets inputs that way,   

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Oct 31, 2024, 15:29

No but I’d rate England up there with France

As for Roos being poor at test level bullshit

Oct 31, 2024, 16:11

The AB vs Ireland is going to be a tough game and the outcome will be very interesting. I think Ireland will be favourites.

So will the French game, with France also possible be the favourites . But that being said the AB stands a good chance of winning both.

Our games is easier but I think next year we also play Ireland at home and France not sure?

I think Roos will have a very tough route to get back into Bok Contention.

The likes of Elrigh, Hanekom ( which I think is going to be a Bok Super star) then possible Tsituka brothers and don’t forget Jasper Wiese, is standing in his way.

His Brother Cobus Wiese will also Play himself into contention. Versatile player that can play Lock or flanker on both sides of the scrum.

Oct 31, 2024, 17:02

Mozart

Schickerling never played in tests that I know of - Maybe in the period when Coetzee was coach and all players failed,   However Schikerling  suffered a broken neck that kept him out of rugby for between 2 and 3 years.   So in which tests was he a failure?


Oct 31, 2024, 21:38

I never  said Snickerling was a failure in tests.. I said I have never seen him play an impressive match. Roos, however, I have seen play impressively at lower levels, but fade for the Boks…..famously overwhelmed by the wee Portuguese wing.

Oct 31, 2024, 21:54

I’m not sure where we should be rated, Saffolk. 

Some of the selections he’s made for this Test are a bit of a worry ! 

Oct 31, 2024, 22:08

Mozart let us et one hing straight.   you said he following:-

 JD was impressive provincially but a dud in tests ..,Roos too.

Now you c hange what you said 

This is why nobody can ever trust  you ib any posting you make on site,   I am pretty cerrtain you never saw Schickeling playung in any match - so you are talking utter BS as expectred from you - but I will gyve you another chance - in which matches did you see him play and in which year?

Be careful it is a qustion that can easily be checked out so don't lie again.       ,.   

Oct 31, 2024, 22:38

Look at the post, read it again, seek help if you need it. JD is obviously Jason Dixon….not Snickerling

Oct 31, 2024, 13:45

Roos…he has been even less impressive than Jason Dixon. If JD was impressive provincially but a dud in tests ..,Roos too.

Nov 01, 2024, 01:08

Mozart

One can only wonder what  twists you will come up next with.   You started a sentense  about Schickerling and stated  clarly h was a did in non-existent tests - there was no "If"  before JD when I copied your own post - now there suddenly is.   So all I wanted to know in which tests he was a failure.    

Then you should have said  sorry I was wrong and the argument would have been over.   You did the dishonest opposite and now you are making it worse.   The fact is twisting things around and adding a word that was not in you orginial posting - you prove to be dishonest and a poster whom nobody should believe because he is a habitual liar and fraud is not beyond you.

So admit you wrote something that was true on site and maybe save some face under the circumstanes 

  

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Nov 01, 2024, 03:30

It was not a sentence about Schickerling, it was a continuation of the discussion of Jason Dixon who I shortened to JD. There is no ‘if’ there because you cut off the copy after the start of the sentence.


The sense of the paragraph is…if Jason Dixon was impressive provincially but a flop internationally Roos was as well….it had absolutely nothing to do with JD Schickerling.


And think about your big finding. What difference does the ‘if’ make? None, in fact the ‘if’ somewhat weakens the case against  of JD (Dixon)….introduces a bit of doubt. Your botched paste was stronger.

Once again you make a mistake….leave off the ‘if’ and then accuse me of lying.


Nov 01, 2024, 04:16

And you want some attention. Above you posted this trying to still claim a player who was injured before the WC couldn’t be replaced:

 Both Mozart and Mpower is hallutionating,    I gave them the examples of  De Villiers and Alerts in 2015 - where WR refuse to allow them to be replaced and hey wiould not bcause he whole onject of their BS is a desperate case of  their constant efforts to belittle Erasmus,

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Here’s what actually happened:

 De Villiers will return to South Africa for further specialist treatment and Jan Serfontein will join the squad in Newcastle on Monday.’ Serfontein was a sub against the USA.

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Don’t bother to admit you were wrong, you’ll just repeat the claim in a few weeks.  I have genuinely been trying to avoid arguing with you since your concerning  health revelation, but you just  won’t be denied.


Nov 01, 2024, 06:16

Don't admityou r talking shit - I mentioned JD Schickerling in the team I selecd never mentioned Dixion at all.   You commented on Schickerling  and hrew in Roos as well.   Yoj wer cpmmning on h am i posed and no now suddenly you refer to Dixon.

We had this kind of shit from you for years.    Si I waioed for a while and hen asked you what ets Schickerling played in ad you were caught twising it around and frist came out with  BS about what ou have seen of him on franchise level at all.    Whn I quoted your statemnt - you changed what you initially wrote by putting an If before JD,

I did not speak about Dixon at all and the Louw Mpoer referred to iro of loosies wa not emntiond either - he mentioned Louw - so he normal BS on your part followed.   You condemened a player you have never seen playing as inadequate - shos you your player assessment is about on par ith all the BS you normally spout on site.

By the way if Serfonein replaced De Villiers in the squad i ould have been officially announced s a replacement and the lod o ply in evey susequent match on De Allende would agains he inot tests in the Round Robin stage would ahve ebeen lightned - but it was NOT nd after playing for five weeks in a row in the series it was impssibl to expec from any playe in any WC o do that.   THere are 31 sud membr dselected in the WC to all for rest games during the Round Robin stage of the tournament against weaker teams - bu in 2015 it just did not happen.   Same with De Jager - because the useles at that time Matfield  could not be used.   When  came from the bench he fucked up royally.   

You strated eJD shit story and I caught you out twice.   So live with it - it just exposea gain wht you routinely writ on site.  

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Nov 01, 2024, 14:17

Nobody cares who you spoke about, nobody reads your posts. 

Nov 01, 2024, 14:27

But you do have an opportunity right here to admit you were wrong about Jean not being substituted at RWC15. Do it!

Nov 01, 2024, 14:53

y the way shi there iss no JD other of than Schikerling  ever menioed your excuse that it was B-J Dixon - note the hi-finated name of Dixon - is a total lie as per normal about your test story about  Schikckerling.

I tried to  finmd the team that you mnioned Serfontein was supposd to be on the bench and could not did it.     Why was their no report that Serfonein wa srelacing De Villiers in the emdia at the time - s evn if your tale i true - why did De A lende to play in evcery match after the first game  - the Japan  Disaster and there was no mention f Serontei for the rest of the season/   .     

I have nohing to apoogize for - you lied about Schickerling repeatedly so you went from being a liar - you became a multiple liar.  .   

Nov 01, 2024, 18:00

You really are clueless:

7 October 2015
Olympic Stadium, London
World Cup Pool Match
South Africa
64
USA
0
Captain: Fourie du PreezReferee: Pascal Gauzère (France)
Coach: Heyneke MeyerAttendance: 54,658
Team - Combined caps: 623 (starting 15)
PositionPlayerProvinceAgePrev TestsScoring
Loose-head PropTendai MtawariraSharks3071 
HookerBismarck du PlessisSharks31751 try
Tight-head PropFrans MalherbeWP248 
LockEben EtzebethWP2340 
LockLood de JagerCheetahs2215 
FlankFrancois LouwBath30392 tries
FlankSchalk (jnr) BurgerSuntory3282 
EighthmanDuane VermeulenWP2931 
Scrumhalf (C)Fourie du PreezSuntory3373 
FlyhalfHandré PollardBlue Bulls21164 conversions
Left WingLwazi MvovoSharks29141 try
Inside CentreDamian de AllendeWP2391 try
Outside CentreJesse KrielBlue Bulls2171 try
Right WingBryan HabanaToulon321133 tries
Full BackWillie le RouxCheetahs2630 
ReserveJan SerfonteinBlue Bulls2222 
ReserveWillem AlbertsSharks3134 
ReserveTrevor NyakaneBlue Bulls2619 
ReserveSchalk BritsSaracens349 
ReserveMorné SteynFrancais31593 conversions
ReserveCoenie OosthuizenCheetahs2622 
ReserveRudy PaigeBlue Bulls260

Nov 01, 2024, 18:40

I thabk you for the above - but that is not the latest 

If he was recalled hemade buger all tothe team and De A llende had to start in 6 matches in a row .   So he was on the ebnch and did he actually play.   \

The above is a nce diversion the difference i called ou to be your normal self by lying about Schickerling ad every time yu hhad a diernct story.    Finally homesty is the best policy, s try ad change your disgusting behavior.         

Nov 01, 2024, 19:11

The issue isn’t whether he played or was on the bench…he was there at the WC ready to play. You said that was not allowed. Stop digging, just admit that as usual I was right and you were wrong.

Nov 01, 2024, 19:34

Well I for one was thrilled to see Pollard eventually get the call to join the Springboks in the RWC.

If he was not called up what do you Rugby WC followers think would have happened to the Boks?

The long kicks Pollard converted in the games he participated in resulted in a win by a single point.

Now we all know the Elton L would never ever have made those kicks so hats off to POLLARD and ERASMUS.


Nov 02, 2024, 11:40

Poor Mozzietard and Mampara Power are so very bitter about our great Bok coach RassiecEtasmus

They tried hard to make a name for themselves by relentlessly criticizing Rassie so they could show they knew better. Unfortunately for these two bone heads Rassie just kept wining huge matches and series.

Du Toit proved himself to be an all time great and Allende a very useful center.

Have their long snouts rubbed in the dirt again and again was a painful experience for these two confused loons. Their egoes suffered immense damage and their rage grew proportionally. 

Poor mampara is becoming as unhinged as the unfortunate Doos. Mozzietard is clearly very rattled as he battles to find anything at all against Rassie. 

Face facts, coaches, players the public and the press acknowledge Rassie is a great coach. But dont expect these too buffoons to have the honestly to admit they are wrong. They don't have the integrity of even a Rooitwit to admit they were wrong! Hahshahahaha

Their hope is at some point Rassie will fail and they will then argue Rassie's amazing success was due to luck, weak opposition, we suddenly have the greatest players ever etc etc etc etc. We did so well despite Rassie. 

So guys you can expect to have to put up with their drivel indefinitely and will enjoy many a laugh at the expense of these loons! :D




Nov 02, 2024, 14:35

Oh dear….this is the surest election sign yet. HasBeen who guaranteed a Trump victory is not out there beating the Trump drum. Instead he is back in the Rugby section talking up the second ranked team. What’s your take today HasBeen, still think you have election iced or have you given up?

Nov 02, 2024, 16:53

Mozzietard from what the polls are showing it looks like a great Trump win. 

However on X, various websites, You Tube the instances of demonrat fraud keep rolling in. 

Trump looks stronger than he ever has. In addition the NEW RNC under MAGA control is actually fighting voter fraud unlike last time. They are win ing cases in court. 

So Demonrats efforts to win by cheating will be harder. 

Since I know how much cheating went on in 2020 and what the Demonrats are trying in 2024 it's all a question of how many Illegal votes can the Demonrats get away with. Frankly I don't know. 

I see Arizona said it would tale 10 to 13 days to count the votes!!! The other battle ground states say results will take days.

Some good news from Georgia, if true, is SOS Rappensperger say Their results will be out that evening barring some 10, 000 overseas votes. 

Great to see the Liz Cheney hoax crashing and burning. What a disgraceful war mongering family they are. The Uniparty Globalist Liz is now supporting Harris. It's great when these snakes show their true colour's. 

I have so much to share on this board but my time is better spent lightening American  voters. 

The truth is Trump has defeated Harris. Can he win so big it's too big to Rig. 

I won't be happy until the final result is known. Then the GOP will I susoect need to deal with Marc Elias, BLM and of course ANTIFA riots.

Bye the way don't lie and say I quaranteed a Trump victory. My stance has been consistent with what I have written above. 

Tty posting a few posts with no lies. It would be good for your soul. 


Nov 02, 2024, 18:46

Hahaha….yes you are right, you are now raising election fraud more and more. I wonder why that is.

Nov 04, 2024, 04:39

Beeno - we know Moozart is a rugby liar - bu t why did  y ou ost t  is hread under rugby and not under Beeno's trumpet.  This si where the problems is,      

Nov 04, 2024, 05:03

Mozart


Stop talking shit all te time - first of all you lied about Schirkerling  and twisted like a snake to get out of your lies .    Then you lied about the final as well.   The players who played a 60% role in that test were the players who forced the AB's to concede convertable penalties  and the player you hated since 2013 - namely Pieter-Stef du Toit - the MOM in the final.    He was the player that set he example for oher players to follow.     

You were so easy to deal with when it came to rugby becausse you lied all the time about rugby player performnces especially when it came to certain players.   The Matfield case in 2014 and 2015 was part of the reason why the Springboks  that year lost against Japan,i the Round Robin stage and against the AB's in the semi.    It must be terible for you when your lies are exposed regularly    

So lets accept it - you  are never to be believed when it comes to rugby issues -especially since you hae Erasmus as well.              .    .       

Nov 04, 2024, 05:17

Actually this string was about Pollard and by extension his non selection for the World Cup….you were unable to follow the argument about Snickerling on another thread. Go there if you want to try and prove your point again. The other stuff has been fact checked and debunked many times….just the ramblings of an old fool.

Nov 04, 2024, 09:29

Listen doos 

I ried t mve away from the repertitive garbage ou keep onm about the past  - which ymou have been spouting  a thusand times on site.   Pollard was dealing with the present scenaario and what Erasmus is about - and you went back to the 2023 RWC - which had zero to do wih wat Pollrd said about Erasmus as a coach,   That has zero to do with what is happening at presssent and your repetitive garbage was not applicable.to thepreseent thread and yu tried o uen it around.

Trying to get away from your BS - I wrote a thread dealing with poenmial futue selections and you then lied about Schickserling being a failure on test level, and then your twisting started - you claimed you never said what I wrote and came up wi a new statement that what you saw of him playing.   I then quoted your statement on Schickerling after you denied what you wriote and came up with a new Twist,    The new sentense sarted wih If - which was not in your original statement.

When did you see Schickerling playin in matches and when were the matches played,   .

So forget about your snake like ehaviour in this case and try and be honest for a change.                

Nov 04, 2024, 15:05

The issue regards Pollard  and Harrassmiss is how he stupidly left him out of the WC squad. His defenders then said if Pollard was picked injured he couldn’t be subbed….as if that mattered when you can pick 4 scrumhalves.


 I then proved that was wrong and gave examples. You then pointed to JDV not being subbed in 2015….which I totally blew up. Including your pathetic last attempt claiming Serfontein never played….which was wrong as well.

Your Schickerling mistake was on another thread….go there if you want further schooling.

 
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