Not for me, especially when we select B teams ........................... time for a break, cricket & the beach .

Yeah it's reached a point of "who cares" for me. I can't even be bothered to watch any of the whatever it's called Euro competition our provinces are playing in now.

This so called B teams, is what the Lions Franchise Are made off.

But yet they are the only SA team that’s keeping our name high !!

Calling good fringe Rugby players B team material is a bloody insult…..

Just shows me how spoiled SA supporters have become just wanting the Eben, s and Stef,s ….

Instead of standing United behind any SA player no matter where they come from….

With all due respect, this thread stinks of Fake…..

Well MP you can't expect or force people to like something if it doesn't resonate with them, unfortunately. For me it's the simple quality over quantity equation. Even braaivleis gets boring if you eat it every day.

The only reason I suspect you don’t like it is because we’re losing … quality over quantity is a good argument….

But I will stay a SA Rugby supporter thru the difficult times to, Not only when it suits me…

Well at least that’s how I feel.

The only reason I suspect you don’t like it is because we’re losing

No, it's because I'm simply not interested in the competition.

Here's a good take on it

"Surely, fewer fixtures with more riding on them would appeal more to broadcasters, as opposed to just filling air-time with an endless stream of mismatches on niche subscription channels to limited audiences"

It's what killed Super Rugby too - more and more teams being added which just amounted to a bunch of mismatches and nothing games that no one cared about.

But I will stay a SA Rugby supporter thru the difficult times to, Not only when it suits me…

In my opinion, the best way to be a supporter right now is to support our players getting some rest. Plumtree in that article: "We've got to look after our athletes. Right now, they're treated like robots."

We have a big test season ahead next year and our guys just keep playing and playing and playing. Front line Boks like Eben should not have been playing rugby now, but resting and recovering.

I fully agree and have written about it many times. I was so bored and frustrated over the last few weekends. If you think how many games, even at test level we have dumb games. We played Wales twice and these games were so boring. 

Next year is going to be a yawn fest. We play Italy twice at him and another tier 2 team. Only teams we are playing at home and not even in the top five are Arg and Aus. This year we had Ireland and NZ. Then even if France did tour, they too would send their B team as they see it is a development team and don't care. They only care about the 6 nations and Autumn internationals. 

I still think club rugby should be 5 months only

Why does Dobbo mentioned in the article above, that its good that SA is part of the Champions Cup?

I will agree that the schedule is to intense for travelling SA teams .

So if the organisers can make some changes in that regard it would help.

It will be good for SA Rugby in general to be part of this competitive comp.

Yes it’s a good point that our players should be rested.

Therefore it’s of vital importance to build our Depth in other players that needs more exposure to international Rugby.

This way you don’t have A or B players, but players that can all step up and win.

Very similar to the Formular Rassie is using with the Boks.

Or the Lions that keeps on exposing no name players to the best Europe,s got and now they beat them on regular basis.

Why does Dobbo mentioned in the article above, that its good that SA is part of the Champions Cup?

Probably because competition is good. And I agree with what he says about domestic competitions like the Currie Cup - it's dead, sad as that is. The professional era with its lucrative overseas contracts in part has killed it. The best leave, the rest play to empty stadiums. But he also expressed his reservations about how it's being orchestrated. I don't have a solution. It just feels like this is a house of cards that's going to come tumbling down spectacularly some time or another.

We should still be playing Super Rugby?? We are the only Southern Hemisphere team playing our club Rugby in the Northern Hemisphere.

The rest SH teams is doing there thing and it has not influence them in a negative way..

Yes if we can be competitive in the champions cup it will make sense to play there. But how do we reach that?

I still think that creating more depth, not predominantly relying on your A listers, might be a answer. Other than that the organisers won’t do much to accommodate us.