Siya Kolisi helped win the WC

That seems to be the prevailing view.  But what are the facts? There were 5 knockout matches that were competitive, I leave out the Japanese hammering in 2019.

Wales 2019…..Kolisi was subbed in minute 69 when the score was 16 to 16. His absence ensured our win because Louw made the crucial turnover leading to the winning penalty. Final score 19/16. Score after Kolisi left 3/0.

England 2019….Kolisi subbed in minute 64. The Boks were ahead 18/12 and the match wasn’t won. Final score 32/12. Score after Kolisi left 14/0.

France 2023….Kolisi subbed in minute 46, the Boks were behind  19/22. The final score the Boks won 29/28. Score after Kolisi left 10/6.

England 2023….Kolisi subbed in minute 51. The score was Boks behind 6/12. Final score Boks win 16/15. Score after Kolisi left 10/3.

New Zealand ….Kolisi subbed in minute 73…the score 12/11 which was also the final score. In at least 3 of these games, Wales, France and England we won the match after he left the park.

In aggregate we were 71 /73 with Kolisi on the park and 37/9 after he left the park. Clearly there were other factors at play. For example Pollard coming on and making his kicks. But it’s very hard to argue Kolisi was essential to our WC wins. In every match the victory was in doubt when he left the park. 

And in every match except NZ we did markedly better after he was subbed.

Kolisi leading us to WC victory is a pleasant fiction.

Oh what utter crap that we did better when he left the field one would swear rugby was a one man game

Kolisi would have played his part in all those minutes he was on the field as he is a class act. Subbing him for a player like Kwagga makes perfect sense

Kwagga is a far bette operator off the bench when the starting pack had worn the opposition down. He has never been a good starter as he yet again proved against Ireland

Kwagga at least adds value when he comes on, we can’t say the same for Francois Louw when he used to come on other than his one moment of glory effecting a vital turnover. Other than that moment, Kolisi was always far far superior

Kolisi was a passenger on the good Ship Springbok,

Passenger my arse he is one of our best 6’s ever certainly better than Pienaar, Schalk etc

More assertions, more balls….against Ireland he did nothing as well. You’re just a groupie Dave, believing everything you are fed.

Take the first Irish test…here’s your great 6:

Moz you keep bringing stats up they mean zero especially from ESPN who are piss poor

Kolisi had a very good first test against Ireland and that’s a fact

I’m no groupie - never have been never will be - I know too much about the game to have to rely on the views of others and I certainly know stats provide zero context and tell you nothing about a players game

Kolisi was very good against Ireland and that’s a fact - so much so that it made a mockery of the French idiot who called him fat

Of course stats are informative. If a player makes 60 metres you can ask if he had a long non contested run. But if he makes 10 Metres in 5 runs and makes 3 tackles missing one it’s crystal, his contributions were meager. As they almost always are.

A scam, a fantasy. I see him hovering over the down ball and bottling out as the cleaners come in.

Occasionally by accident he does something useful

Wynand Claasen....Francois Pienaar...

"Of course stats are informative."

I think you are a bit unfair on Kolisi, in that World Cup final he played his best game for the boks ever. Making big hits, gaining meters with ball in hand and even poaching a ball or two. He had a great World Cup final in 2019. 

However, all the other games he would either stay in the tram lines or never look to steal the ball. Just watch at ruck time, he is there, but he doesn't compete, he just shifts away from the ruck, and he will shift wider to move away from the contact zone. 

His play stats are really poor too. 

https://all.rugby/player/siya-kolisi

But when he is on for an entire game the boks tend to lose

One thing is for certain and that is any assessment by Moz one has to take with a pinch of salt unless it’s fucking useless Mostert he is banging on about

Apparently PSDT was not that great in the WC final and Mostert was better

Kolisi was outstanding in the WC as he was in the first Irish test

The big winning factor for the Boks was the Bomb Squad.  Obviously things improved when they came on.

WC final 2019, he had a strong  defensive game….along with the whole Bok pack…..Etzebeth, Vermeulen , Malherbe, DudToit and Mostert were all terrific on defense.

On attack here are his stats, he made 7 metres while conceding one turnover. If you assign  a turnover 20 metres, his running efforts lost us a net 13  meters .

Ah those worthless stats again

You bet 3 runs for 7 metres and a fumbled ball. A total myth.

Bullshit he was good as he always is

He did do a good national anthem, that was as good as it always is.