Oh wow you really are utterly clueless - he has been excellent for the Stormers this season since his return
He and v Heerden have been very good
Oh wow you really are utterly clueless - he has been excellent for the Stormers this season since his return
He and v Heerden have been very good
Mozart
No comment on your shit necessary.
Nonsense he is an ordinary, old, provincial level lock. Just another one of your big picks who went nowhere Dave. I tried to warn you…but no, Schickerling is this gold nugget Rasmus hasn’t got right.
Then why are you commenting Saaiman….I have zero interest in anything you have to say.
Moz you have clearly not watched any of his games this season so stop speaking shit or commenting on players you have not even watched
For if you had actually seen him play for the Stormers this season then this kind of ignorant bullshit would not be coming from you - well actually it probably would
JD has been very good for the Stormers this season including the game on the weekend despite the poor showing of the majority of his team mates
The only Stormers players emerging with some credibility this weekend were Gelant, Zas, de Wet, JD, Ruben v Heerden and BJ Dixon
The commentators were talking up Gelant faster than he was missing tackles. Not one of those players is going to be a Bok regular. They are provincial level.
Gelant was excellent
Moz if JD is only Provincial level, what would you call Moerat? And just because of 1 mistake he made it does not define him.
I read thru some of the comments and it’s alarming how quick good Rugby players become “ Shit “ just because of a few mistakes on this Forum.
Most of the Springbok incumbents has made stupid dumb mistakes in there careers. But it sure as hell did not define them.
Also BJ Dixon where I can clearly remember you guys being happy with his performance in the beginning. But then after one or two Quiet games he is shit??
Nah guys giving up so quick on players, is just ridiculous ! Same counts for Jordan that he must be kept away from the Boks, is nonsense.
Total irrational behaviour to be honest.
Yep it’s pathetic how quickly these clowns turn on players
Schickerling has always been good and is now even better
Jordan Hendrikse is a class act
BJ Dixon is a great looking prospect as PSDT’s back up
Roos is suddenly shit now to
Jurenzo Julius apparently looks average - fuck me could we get more rugby ignorant than that?
Manie is super shit
It’s all a fucking joke
Same counts for Jordan that he must be kept away from the Boks, is nonsense.
Here's context speaking for me personally: I don't watch a lot of provincial rugby. I don't have the time. So I call things on a game to game basis when I do get the time to watch.
Jordan was terrible on Saturday. Not just one or two incidents, constant throughout the game. He dropped balls in contact, made numerous defensive errors from positioning to missed tackles. He looked like a complete amateur, not someone who should be anywhere near a Bok side. That's what I call.
I've seen little of Julius. He was hopeless on Saturday, could barely make a tackle. That's what I call.
Or should I sit there watching a game saying "gee that player is something special isn't he?" after he'd just been brushed off like a little kid? What's the point?
Also BJ Dixon where I can clearly remember you guys being happy with his performance in the beginning. But then after one or two Quiet games he is shit??
Comparing Louw's last two test performances against Dixon's - Louw looks at home, Dixon looks lost. That may change, but in my experience, great test players usually look at home right away. Some terrific provincial players just never make the step up to test rugby. Simple fact, nothing to get too emotional about. Dixon may still come good. We'll see. Right now Louw looks by far the stronger candidate.
0.30 Gelant fails to take the high ball
I’d call Moerat a provincial level lock. Which isn’t terrible, but not one of those guys except perhaps van Heerden looks to me like a possible Bok regular. We anointed Roos, he was the next coming. It didn’t work….move him from provincial rugby to test rugby and he becomes ordinary.
Pakie your take on all those players is utter shit but that is expected from a clown passing judgement on players having hardly watched any rugby
Moz why not try include all the good Gelant did in that game
Let me guess those commentators constantly singing his praises know fuck all about what they are talking about much like myself of course who saw it exactly as they did
Instead we should bow to your usual ignorant bullshit
Gelant had a good game did more good than bad - it was not without mistakes but fuck me one would swear players don’t make mistakes
Gelant did nothing good in the first half….and I’m not going through that miserable second half again. Be my guest.
I don't thibk Roos is a test level 8.
I instead see him as a good replacement for PSDT. He's more mobile and stronger, with much better ball sense. Also hits like a truck.
He's a guy you'd wanna give a license too, and would terrify oppo 10s of you allowed him to target them.
I've never thought his best position is at 8.
Pakie your take on all those players is utter shit but that is expected from a clown passing judgement on players having hardly watched any rugby
Not as big a clown as someone like you ignoring everything he sees while doggedly sticking to preconceived ideas that never change. Make us another list of 100 world beating players who will never succeed at test level you clueless twat, go on.
Well that just shows how little you know
Why the fuck would you want possibly our most gifted 8 wasted at 7 bashing it up
He has shown all the attributes of the perfectly rounded 8
He is big and physical, has good pace, good hands, runs great lines - the perfect 8
Better skills than Elrigh Louw and Wiese who rely mostly on power, which of course works
Roos and Hanekom are our best all round prospects at 8, followed by Horn and Emmanuel Tsituka
Fuck me not that long ago you wanted Roos at 12 and now you see him at a 7 - that is absurd.
Blindside requires the least skill of the 3 looseforward positions and you see Roos as a 7 after wanting him at 12
You make as much sense as priest in a porn movie
Ah fuck off Pakie do us a favour and refrain from passing judgement on players until you actually watch some rugby you stupid prick
It’s fucking insulting and trust you to be stupid enough to admit you hardly watch as you are sooooo busy
Fuck right off
Okay well, Dave has spoken. Apparently I watch too little rugby to participate here. Fair enough.
Well Pakie you admit that you don’t watch the guy that often and yes his performance this WE is one that he will want to forget.
I see potential in him because of the games where he was performing very well as a attacking Flyhalf.
His kicking game was also up to standard and just like Sacha, he is a Flyhalf that defend strongly. So it’s unfair if you define/ judge him by this one game. And Let’s face it Pakie we all get emotional on here:)
Ben did have quiet games where he might of looked a bit out of place. But like I said before that some of our incumbents sometimes still have those bad days.
Pollard,s performance in the second Irish test is a example of this. He was poor and on here described as a has been, that is finished. But since then, he had good games again.
Moz I personally think that wasn’t it that JD broke his neck, he would of been in springbok contention long ago.
He is a good line out option, above average ball carrier and defender. If he will reach that level again like before his injury, we will have to wait and see.
Yes Pakie shut the fuck up as there is nothing worse than a prick formulating opinions on players having hardly watched any rugby
Do yourself a fucking favour and go watch the CC, Baby Bok and URC games Jurenzo Julius has played this season and come tell me he looks ordinary
You fucking clown
Plum,s idea of playing Roos at 7 is not bad at all. He is more than capable because of his skill set.
And Pakie with his analytical approach is refreshing and accurate. Definitely Competent.
Especially with the pictures of different situations in a game that is being discussed, is very helpful in understanding that discussion.
Only a fool would want to play Roos at 7, yes he has the skill set but who would be stupid enough to waste the rest of his skill set that is best suited to 8 and the least suited to 7?
The way I see it you can accommodate both Roos and Hanekom in the starting team.
I have mentioned it before, but I would like to see 6 Roos 7 Elrigh and 8 Hanekom.
I don’t know if Elrigh has played 6 before, but Roos has for the stormers, and was not to bad.
I have no issue with Pakie in general but telling us Hendrikse and Julius look ordinary based on one game having not watched much else is fucking frustrating
If you can’t formulate an opinion based on the whole and not just a small percentage then rather shut the fuck up
It’s like me listening to one song on an album and concluding it’s a great album
That makes no sense as Hanekom is the smallest of the 3 and the one that turns over ball more than the other two, so the obvious call would be 6. Hanekom 7. Louw and 8. Roos
That can also work.
Hanekom 243 lbs /6’4”
Ardi Savea 210lbs/6’2”
I think Hanekom will be fine at number 8
There is no doubt Hanekom would make a great test 8, he is a class act
"And Pakie with his analytical approach is refreshing and accurate. Definitely Competent."
I agree, I really enjoy them
Dunno about you guys, but I think sounds Pakie seems far more knowledgeable than Dave.
You think sounds do you Buttplug?
Nice work there
I personally get far more information and technical understanding about certain aspects of the game from Pakie's posts, in comparison to Dave, in fact, you can't even compare the two.
Oh bless you DumbAss - but please don’t kid yourself or us - you are incapable of taking anything in relating to rugby
Why the fuck are you on this board - your rugby contributions are fucking zero
You are just a fucking worthless blue arse fly
Is it attention that you need? Why else would a non rugby person frequent a rugby board? Serious question
Thanks for the best wishes Davey... I thought there might be a soft limp dick somewhere behind that hard facade
Pakie is far.... far more astute about Rugby than you will ever be, so I was just being genuinely honest....
...it has begun...his neck to tong too?
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DumbAss tell us where you rank when it comes to rugby?
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"DumbAss tell us where you rank when it comes to rugby?"
To be absolutely brutally honest Dave..... about where you ranked as a lawyer.
ouch........................
Answer the question you stupid prick
Deflection adds zero value
Zero deflection Dave .....
You asked me a question, and I gave you my very honest answer.
My knowledge on rugby is not on par with what some other posters on here know, and I have openly admitted that many times before in the past, and I have never ever been shy about that....but that should never stop or exclude me from posting my own opinion on any certain player or the game.
Just like your ability to practive law was never on par with the other lawyers in your legal profession..... hence why you moved over to selling ice cream....
At least I can admit and own my limitations .... 
Listen here fuckwit you know nothing about me so save us the product of your pathetic imagination
But more to the point what the fuck are you doing on a rugby message board when you admit you know fuck all about the game
Are you that desperate an attention seeker? Fuck me you are beyond pathetic and I mean that sincerely
I don’t know much about rugby but let me join a rugby message board - WOW - get a fucking life you loser
The oaks seem to be at it this morning.
Like 0ajster I don't watch rugby apart from the Boks as 8 have very busy campaigning for Trump on Social media. Hopefullt I can scale back on this next year and watch the Stormers etc and identify the real talent for you oaks.
Pakster shows insight at times and at other times....
The guy who has not really impressed me the few times I have seen him play is Dixon. He has been too passive. He looks the part but is he a real warrior?
"But more to the point what the fuck are you doing on a rugby message board when you admit you know fuck all about the game"
I didn't say I knew fuck all about rugby Dave, I just said that I didn't know as much as some other posters on here..... and that is 100% true..... we have some really great rugby minds on this forum.
However, if the topic ever did come up about knowing fuck all about something, then I would obviously just use you as an example , and refer to you from the days when you were a so called lawyer.
Shiter-ling is a decent provincial player, but to be considered a Springbok candidate - a player needs to be the winning man of the match at lower levels. This is not happening.
If Roedoelf Straulie was the Boks coach he would have been capped, along with most other people in Saffex lists (e.g. 100 players in a squad of 34).
Sharktwat your take on rugby players is as good as my take on your mothers knitting class
I bet you have not even watched him play this season, that’s how pathetic you are
To all those saying JD is only a provincial lock, they need to look at some of the locks already in the Bok setup.
Moerat, Nortje, Nico JVR…. These guys are in no way better than JD or Ruben….not a chance!!
If they are, please back up this claim with hard Video evidence.
:)
Nortje has earnt his spot for the Boks. His performance has been improving at the Boks after a slowish start in the first few games.
Moerat has done nothing to demonstrate that he is Springbok material. Unlike say Norje, who wins man of the match at games below test level to demonstrate that he is a candidate for higher honours.
I am not sure if Moerat is a quota, but he has been extremely poor in every test he has played for the Boks.
I have not seen enough of JVR to comment, but I don't recall him ever playing for the Boks.
Last season I did not watch many of the URC games, but I have watched them over the last few weeks. Even so, I still see match reports that praise the players that stand out with match-winning performances.
Not saying Ruan is Bad but JD is of the same class.
"Nortje has earnt his spot for the Boks. His performance has been improving at the Boks after a slowish start in the first few games."
Playing well, but doesn't look the part at all...bizarre that he is preferred ahead of Ruben...
Agreed Draad - Nortje is just another Mostert who lacks physicality
He is good in the line outs but so what so is Ruben etc
I really don’t get how Nortje has cracked the nod ahead of Ruben v Heerden and Ruan Vermaak initially and with the return of JD Schickerling and Cobus Wiese who both look better players than Nortje
Even young Corne Rahl looks a better prospect
There you are Mike, the whole Snickerling string….once again you accuse me of lying….once again you are wrong.
You are and remain a liar and both threats confirm it. You are a stupid liar at that as well. We already know you habitually lie about incidents in matches and the above shit of yours confrim it as well.
Wehe . . . the two Grumpy Old Men calling each other stupid liars again . . . as if we don't know that already!
LMAO!
When Mozart discover a new name for plaaayers - like Dud Toit in the case of P-S du Toit - and In te case of Schickerling - you must always know that he will lie about the performacnes of he player and incidents involving of he player i he 3 meers away fom where the iciden hapened. he applied th same BS to Erasmu.
When he described incidents in matches you must know he is lying about what actually happened. When it was then foud that he lied woul go silemt on it and then a year of so aftards revive the lie. . .
Threads Saaiman….they are threads not threats.
Are you Treatening me? :)
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This guy is swatting at an opponent’s arm while another oppo is dividing over for a try right at his feet. How the blue blazes can anybody rate this perfectly ordinary lock.