So Moffie

Do you support Rassie?

No I support the Springboks and I hope DrLucky doesn’t take us back permanently to win at all costs as he did when the Aussies thrashed us.

So do you support Rassie the coach?

Ooooh this is Dave the failed lawyer who became an ice cream salesman polishing up his lawyering skills. What happened to Dave the farmer, did you finally eat all the livestock?

Awe so cute - this pathetic attempt at humour masking the truth

So you say you don’t support Rassie but you support the side - yeah wow that makes sense.

You are a fucking liar Moffie - no Bok supporter spending every moment on here discrediting the teams performances game after game either telling us how lucky we are or how weak the opposition are

Fuck off do you support the Boks you fucking liar

Objection sustained, that question has already been answered. Porky don’t waste the court’s time

Keep masking away Moffie

We know the truth - nothing about you is about supporting the Boks

You take pleasure in them losing all because of your childish dislike of the coach

That’s how pathetic you are

Fuck off and go support another side - the Boks don’t need your sort supporting them

You are no different to those losers in Cape Town supporting the All Blacks

No different to you denying the merit of Jake White’s WC is a more accurate accusation…..you can’t win these arguments Dave you are limited by your low IQ, emotional thought process, bias and laziness.

What flavors are moving these days

Jake was useless back then he had Eddie to save him and the Boks - huge difference. Back then I had to rely on Eddie to win us that WC

You can bang on as much as you like about IQ’s and ice cream you loser but none of that detracts from the issue in hand here

You are not a Bok supporter - that’s a fact evidenced by the tone of the majority of your posts on here, undermining our sides achievements - that does not equate to support

You are a very stupid old man. I’m just exposing you for who you are - you are no different to the CT Kiwi supporters.

Ill say it again, you are NOT a Bok supporter and as I’ve said on numerous occasions, I bet you secretly wish they would lose and secretly rejoice when they do

There is no way you proudly fly the Bok flag in the company you keep - no way in hell

I have enough respect for the Boks to expect them to win playing rugby…as in the 2019 WC final, as in the Twickenham match against the ABs, as in their recent win in NZ. That’s what I support.

I don’t support win at all costs, kick the ball rather than taking a chance spreading it to the backline…..kick and defend which defined the whole 2023 WC leaves me unmoved.

In other words I have high standards for the Boks…any win is good enough for you. But NZ never became the world’s leading rugby team just because they won…,they won with style. And for the Boks to supplant them, that’s what we have to do. The reaction to the recent games we did that was overwhelming.

So I think I have more respect for the team than a groupie like you who isn’t worldly enough to even conceive the objective.

But I’m not going to tell you to get lost, why would one give up on a daily laugh.

Your problem is that your hate for the coach blinds the reality - that’s how pathetic you are.

Objectivity my arse - your discrediting the Boks at every turn has fuck all to do with objectivity and everything to do with your anti Rassie

Reality is the Boks have played great attacking rugby mixed with their traditional strengths for much of Rassie’s reign - our tries scored, metres gained, defenders beaten etc are up there with the best sides in the game over Rassie’s reign.

Your take is just a pack of lies. The only time we played boring rugby was post Covid given no rugby had been played for so long

You are not a Bok supporter, so stop trying to kid us that you are. We know better - Bok supporters don’t discredit and undermine their amazing achievements at every turn

But your most desperate call is telling us a side does not need a coach - fuck me and you have the audacity to say I provide the laughs on here - get fucking real

The current Bok team is so experienced they could pretty much coach themselves, but they’d need a real leader the Kolisi style of leadership wouldn’t work. Which is not to say they wouldn’t be better with a competent coach, but I’m pretty sure they could beat this Bargie team without a coach which is what I said before you distorted it.

So are you saying Rassie is an incompetent coach - wow - joke of the decade

As for a side not needing a coach kind of sums you and rugby up

There is no way you support the Boks

Where did I say that…..cut and paste

Which is not to say they wouldn’t be better without a competent coach,

Which means exactly what I wrote, that I am not saying they wouldn’t benefit from a competent coach vs no coach at all. I was limiting the point that they could coach themselves….try not to be too stupid, this is boring enough already.

No Moffie you liar you said this side never needed a coach - competent or not

The most fucking rugby ignorant statement ever

Your stupidity is fucking boring

I said this side could beat Argentina without a coach. There it is again for you to read, try to stop lying:

The current Bok team is so experienced they could pretty much coach themselves, but they’d need a real leader the Kolisi style of leadership wouldn’t work. Which is not to say they wouldn’t be better without a competent coach, but I’m pretty sure they could beat this Bargie team without a coach which is what I said before you distorted it.

How the fuck am I lying when it’s you who said the current Bok side could beat the Argies without a coach

That is the same as saying the current side does not need a coach - the most ignorant rugby statement ever

So finally you limit it to what I said….we could beat the Bargies without a coach, rather than we would be better without a coach. I stand by that.

But then in a trick so obvious a five year old could call it, you say that’s the same as saying the current side doesn’t need a coach when I expressly said it doesn’t mean we would be better without a coach.

When you have lost an argument don’t try to lie your way out of it.

We go back to Dawie imagining facts and then arguing based on those imagined facts.

The guy really has the mental capacity of a prepubescent child.

Moffie you dumbfuck all you are saying is that the current Bok side does not need a coach

You can spin it anyway you like - it’s the dumbest rugby comment ever and serves only to prove how fucking rugby ignorant you are

You are literally a fucking idiot and your bumbchum Buttplug is so fucking stupid that he thinks you have a good point - go figure

You should get a room together

I’m not spinning it you ludicrous fat man…..I’m quoting what I said….you’re spinning it and distorting it in the process. I said we could beat the Bargies without a coach, no more no less.

Well dumbfuck that implies they would not need a coach for a host of other sides as well

Regardless of that it has to be the most ignorant rugby statement ever - delivered by a fucking fool

No it does not imply anything….stop lying you fat fart.

Well dumbfuck if they don’t need a coach against Argentina, they won’t against Scotland and Oz either as both are ranked below the Argies you idiot

Lying my arse - just give it up old man you are taking a hiding and I’m starting to worry about your health

Ah but rankings don’t count you wouldn’t accept Argentina’s number three ranking before and in the 2007 WC. I told you when you used that pathetic cop out you have forfeited the right to use rankings in any debate.

Hoist by your own petard and hoisting a fat man like you is quite an accomplishment.

No dumbfuck I asked you to provide their ranking over a period of time which you failed to do

I also pointed out that the likes of France, Ireland, Scotland and Italy were weaker than they are today - geez even Chip worked that out

So come on old man - do we not require a coach against Scotland and Oz right now? How about England huh?

Again you use rankings…_they don’t matter according to you.

Current ranking applies right now

We were talking about rankings back in 2006 you idiot - to get an idea of a sides status back then one would need to look at a monthly ranking over at least a 6 year period

Are you able to comprehend the difference here huh?

I said giving me one months ranking back in 2005 then 2006 and 2007 tells me fuck all

So do we need a coach against England, Oz and Scotland huh? Answer the question old man - stop ducking and diving like a little girl

Rankings back in 2006 applied in 2006 the same way current rankings apply now Shorty.

Oh boy - you are as thick as pigshit old man

I bet the reason you are not giving what I requested is because you chose to be selective for I bet if you showed the monthly rankings over an extended period we would not see Argentina sitting at 3

Prove me wrong old timer

Er wrong I showed rankings for the beginning of 2007, just before the WC, and after the WC. And rankings in 2008 for start, mid and end of the year. Which prove for the WC Argentina was a legitimate semifinalist and they carried that form through the next year. Sufficient for the purpose.

Were the Boks an illegitimate finalist because they were ranked 7th at the start of 2019?

Schplotsky!

Giving me the odd selective month in two years is telling me fuck all or very little

Try again

You should never ask a question you don’t have the answer for in debating…..Low IQ stuff Shorty:

Here are the monthly IRB/World Rugby rankings for Argentina using the last weekly update of each month:

2007

2008

Source: Weekly historical rankings dataset on Wikimedia Commons (

Oopsy!

I said over a six year period old man and no I don’t have the answers it’s why I’ve asked you to provide them as I can’t be asked to look them up you idiot

You are getting your arse kicked here and are stupid enough to tell me I’ve got a low IQ

Fuck me if mine is low your must be minus something

You are such easy pickings

You just keep shifting the goalposts….you complained about only getting selective months in the 2 years….so I gave you every month. You got what you asked for and that’s all one needs to know Argentina was a legitimate semi finalist in 2007.

Stop lying I asked for an extended period of a least 8 years - the normal cycle for a squad

Stop lying old man - you just never stop lying

‘Giving me the odd selective month in two years is telling me fuck all or very little’

….so I gave you every month. Now you want 8 years. Shifting the goal posts. The only form that counts is the WC year, but it’s nice if it’s backed up the following year.

Yes dumbfuck I asked for an extended period ages ago

Moving the goal posts my arse

Go back and read you liar or do you want me to cut and paste to expose your lies huh?

The floor is yours old fart

Nope I have answered enough of your questions. Here’s a challenge for you…….you find a 2 year period where Argentina had a higher average ranking than 2007 and 2008. You say Argentina is a better team now….prove it.

It’s fucking obvious they are better you idiot and that has nothing to do with rankings

Fuck are you really this thick?

Its common knowledge the rugby world over that since the Argentinian players started playing Super Rugby and playing in the UK and France their rugby trajectory as a National side has been on the up

Even you, as thick as you are know that

And no you have not answered my question in full, not even close

It’s obvious….translated I can’t find any time they had two better years than 2007 and 2008. But somehow I just know they were better sometime, somewhere, somehow. It’s common knowledge….man no wonder you bombed in the law courts if you ever got that far.

Fuck you are dumb