So we beat France, England and 14 man NZ

The French team were just good enough to tie with Italy. But admittedly they played a man down, losing the second half by 7 points. A bit less than the model predicted….but if the Italian kicker was a Pollard, it would have been the exact model 10 points.

The ten points we should have put over NZ, rather than the 1 point we won by.

In the meantime, Scotland thrashes the Poms by 30 points to 21, showing again the safety first tactics Eluckmiss used against the Poms just put the WC at risk and making a mockery of our 1 point win.

Amazing how the data comes together to reinforce the points I have been making.. France was vastly overrated but should have beaten us. England was there for the thrashing but we were lucky to win. And NZ were by far the better team, but it’s a ten point handicap per 40 minutes.

Critically these games are frequently won or lost by the kicker.

Huh thrashed by 9 points bwhaahaaa

France are half the side without the direction of du Pont and they seem to be smarting from the mighty Boks kicking them out of the WC thanks to the direction of the best coach in the business

France over rated and should have beaten us - bullshit, France were an awesome side leading up to the WC, the best French side in history.

You are fucking delusional if you think 9 points is a thrashing. It’s the best Scotland side they have ever had. The current England side is vastly different to the one that played in the WC, but trust you to miss that fact

NZ were by far the better team - what a fucking insult - you really are totally clueless. We dominated the Kiwi’s big time in the first half when it was 15 players all, we lost a player for 20 min and played without a specialist hooker thereby negating the ability to enforce the set piece advantage

This is a fact you seem incapable of comprehending. The kickers form part of the game but a game played by 15 players is won by the team not the individual but again it’s beyond your comprehension

I’ll explain the basics of the game to you. There are 15 players in each side, in order to score points through tries and kicks, plenty of scrums, line outs, rucks, mauls, passes, tackles, clean breaks, clean outs, defenders beaten etc take place

It’s impossible in a team sport like rugby that the kicker can do all of these things himself. Hope this helps Moz

As for the Italian kick vs Pollard is there not something obvious that you are failing to mention hellooooo

Got to love how pathetic and desperate you are to discredit our amazing WC win that every 6N game somehow in your warped mind is a reference to our WC victory. You are no Bok supporter

What you are missing Dave there are 15 players in both teams. And their 15 players played our’s to the point the match came down to the kickers.

The Nostradamus  of rugby….every point I made verified in the 6 Nations. Stick with moz….analysis vs emotion.

You have not validated a single thing

No the matches never came down to the kickers - there was time after some of those kicks took place

The French team were just good enough to tie with Italy.

Emm they beat them in the World Cup 60-7. This French team in the 6 Nations is playing no where near the level they where playing during the World Cup or the 2 years before the World Cup.

But they lost their bottle in the last 15 minutes against us when the chips were really down. South Africa won the WC because teams like Ireland and France, the form horses, couldn’t produce under pressure.

Poor mozzietard is still smarting from the Boks win. Ten years or so of insulting Rassie came back with a vengeance this RWC. 

The poor oak just can't get over the fact he made the worst call ever made by anyone on this board by trashing Rassie. 

I think poor Mozzie needs some post RWC dementia councelling. It can't be good for his health.

France had a very good side at the RWC. So did Ireland. Possibly the best teams they have produced. 

Kriel said Scotland were their hardest match. I didn't watch the You Tube video featuring Kriel but what I do know is the Boks had an extremely tough road to the final and played a good nz side.

I honestly don't know if poor mozzietard, obsessed as he is about Rassie, will survive a third Rassie RWC win. Two wins have clearly shattered the poor oak. How much more can he take! 

We were no better than our opponents - what rubbish

Ramos and Farrell have better kicking records than Pollard and Pollard never won us the WC our fucking team won it it’s a bloody team sport - fuck me Moz are you losing it?

Good observation Strav re France vs Italy in the WC

Sure rugby is a team sport so how come we lost to Ireland in game one of the 2003 RWC?

If you have 14 good players and a kicker in the squad that is not up to international standard such as we got saddled with but thankfully Pollard was eventually called up to save the Springboks.

If he was not called up who would have taken those great long range kicks that saved us.

Captain K or duffer Libby?

Give credit when it is due to the man who saved the WC for the Springboks.

POLLARD you hero.

Fuck me how stupid are you lot - Manie has a similar kicking record to Pollard and against Ireland he had an off day like Pollard has in his career but what you fail to fucking grasp is all that happens prior to any kick being taken and what happens after

Am I blaming Libbok for our loss to Ireland no I am not, sure he and Faf missed some easy kicks but plenty more happened over the 80 min other than those kicks

Kickers are integral to the game but they are not alone in determining the outcome of games - that is down to 15 players creating or missing scoring opportunities over 80 min

If you make a kick at minute 75 to take the lead your team still has to defend that lead as a whole for the next 5 plus minutes in order to win the game. It’s not that kick that won the game

You clowns seem incapable of comprehending this obvious fact. AJH you are sounding as ignorant as Moz these days

Manie doesn’t have the nerve….maybe four years of tight test  matches can help. But he failed last year in the Club final, he failed against Ireland and he was on his way to failing against France.

It’s simple for all, except those who want the reality to be different,

All our players efforts. All Eluckmisses’ bulldust amounted to a draw. Our kicker, and France and the AB kickers had a chance to win the games

Pollard did it, he won the WC. On Sunday we saw again a kicker with the game on his boot who folded under pressure.

Pollard is a rare talent. A player, who like Maxwell at the cricket World Cup won the crucial contest.  Eluckmiss was crazy to leave him at home and only got bailed out of his stupidity because Marx got hurt.

Bullshit Pollard never won us the WC the team did. After he made the kicks we still had to defend that lead - that’s a team effort

Just like Kolisi failed to make that pass in the final which would have negated any needs for kicks to be made, just like the AB try should never have been awarded thanks to an obvious forward pass.

So much happens in a game other than kicks - you win some you lose some and that’s down to the team not the kicker

As for Pollard not originally being selected - fuck me he was injured helloooo. He had only played 20 min of rugby for Leicester the week before he was called up. Wake up Moz

As for Manie folding under pressure - bullshit we saw just how good he was at slotting a pressure kick not that long ago

Um Moz how the fuck did the Italian fold under the pressure? Fuck me his ball fell off the tee - did you watch the game???

How often do balls fall off the tee….hahaha…is that a professional effort or something you expect in a school game. Did it ever happen to him before. When last did you see it happen. You are clutching at straws.

As for Pollard not being selected. The team was chosen more than 2 months before the crucial matches…..plenty of time to get Pollard match fit. Manie bottled out….,our kicking percentage against Ireland was 20%. Is that the guy you want taking a 55 meter kick to beat France?

Given our pack and WC pedigree, we should have been winners. We demonstrated that at Twickenham. Erasmus’ tactics almost lost  the WC and Pollard saved it.

And as for defending the lead…haha….we were only in the lead at minute 69 against France and minute 78 against England. Bishops under 15 could defend that lead.

No Dave the absurdity of your defense is now fully exposed….genius….hahaha!

Ah ok so a ball falling off the tee is of little consequence to you when taking a pressure kick - kind of explains a lot about your rugby takes Moz. I’m not going to bother trying to counter that it’s not worth it.

If the side was selected 2 months before there is even more reason not to select Pollard given his recovery timeline would have bern in its formative stage. Case closed on that.

So are you saying sides have never come back to win at minute 78? I’m not even going to pose that question for 69 min. Saying an u15 side could have defended that lead in a WC knockout game is one of the most ignorant takes you have ever come up with

We won the hardest WC thanks to our 23 players, directed by the best coach the Boks have ever had

If you were a true Bok supporter you would be celebrating that instead of all these weak attempts to devalue everything this side has achieved under our genius coach. Shame on you Moz - think about it bud you are a discredit to the side. Which other Bok supporter out there has ever gone to the lengths you have to trash the side. I mean right now every 6N game is somehow dragged into the WC equation.

But for us true supporters no one can take away the fact that this awesome side under our brilliant coach has just won two WC’s in a row and will win a third. That’s how good Rassie is. His third WC victory will be the death of you.

Hand in your Bok supporting notice now Moz, I don’t want to see you suffering a third WC win under Rassie

Mozart 

Have you got nothing  else to do - but to write your repetitive BS on site?

Mozart 

Have you got nothing  else to do - but to write your repetitive BS on site?

Cry me a river Dave. Groupies ignore reality. The real supporter demands the best of his team and what we saw at the WC was a long way short of what the team is capable of. 

You think we have the best talent in rugby by some margin. I agree.  How does a team with those resources scrape home on the superiority of its kicker. I’ll tell you why, because the coach’s never take a risk strategy brought every first level team we played into the contest.

There was nothing innovative about this coaching job, the extreme bench split aside and that was another roll of the dice. And many of the selection decisions were nuts…..4 scrummies , no reserve hooker…leaving Pollard at home.

Oh bullshit Moz it’s a WC you don’t go out to play all out attacking rugby. One would swear all the other sides did as much.

If it’s groupies that ignore reality then 99.9999% of Bok supporters are all part of that group

Rassie was more innovative than any other coach at the WC - the bench split being an obvious example

Pollard was injured you don’t select injured players. Why would Rassie have otherwise left him out, he is the incumbent?

We never won on the superiority of our kicker we won on the strength of our side being better thanks to the resolve and belief instilled in them by that man Rassie

Hand your notice in Moz

I hand in my notice to the Bok groupie society.  Actually, no need, I never was a member. Genius…hahaha.

I have no issue with the Boks winning the world cup.

With 3  one point wins I strongly suspect that the right side won the world cup.

We all go into world cups with the objective to win every single game.

1 point or 30 points - it does not matter - A win is a win in world cup rugby.

Teams have to deliver on the field and the Boks did that.

We keep hearing that the Boks beat a 14 man All Black side - SO WHAT - THEY CAN ONLY BEAT WHAT IS IN FRONT OF THEM.

And lets get honest - Rassie knew that NZ would probably be down to 14 during the game - Their very poor displays over the last 4 years with the only consistency being - A very poor coach who led us down the shitter / A rugby Union who just sat and waved at the fucken prob lem / yellow and red cards and bullshit.

NZ were way off the mark.

Could they have won the world cup - Yes

Did they deserve to win the world cup - NO

Utter bullshit for 4 long years with absolutely no substance - A disgrace to NZ Rugby.

The Boks earned it.

The AB's need a kick up the arse - Not for losing the world cup final by 1 point - BUT FOR 4 YEARS OF ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT WHERE OUR RUGBY STANDARD WAS RUBBISH.....

The best game the Boks played in 2023 was the AB game at Twicks.

Gave them no respect. Marx bossed proceedings, drawing ire in the form of a cheap shot. And our midfield was dangerous as all hell. 

One could argue that had the ref given the ABs more leeway with their early-push maul defense, the complexion of the game'd likely be different.

Still, it was easily the best performance of the year.

And I think it's more down to personnel more than anything else. 

This Bok team really needs Marx. In my opinion, he's the righteous captain. I'm happy for Kolisi and he does seem to be a wonderful guy. But this is rugby and Marx is his superior. 

Fake Bok supporter mozzietard has consistently tried to find reasons what Rassie didn't deserve his two RWC wins. Its become an unhealthy obsession with the poor oak.

Marx is without doubt the world's best hooker. Possibly the greatest hooker rugby has seen? The Boks were extremely unlucky he got injured as he makes an Etzebeth like difference to the pack. Bongi on the bench strengthens the Bomb squad.

But Marx is not the only unfortunate injury that hit the Boks. Pollard missed the Irish test. Then we had the great "Lomp" who fit and on form is a world class lock. We had Am a class center out.

Had we been able to have all this players fit from the beginning of the RWC we would undoubtedly not have lost a match and undoubtedly have won by bigger margins.

Despite all this Rassie and his team still secured a RWC much to the horror of ou Mozzietard who is now trying to wiggle out of his decades long trashing of Rassie.

Rassie did a great job. Give credit where it is due. 

If ou Doos were still with us we would have had double the laughs. Come back doos!! 

Pollard misses from 55 meters, and we exit in the QF against a team that were tied by Italy. And absent Marx’s injury that kick was going to be taken by Manie who had just landed one and missed 4 against Ireland ….hahaha….genius.

It is going to be interesting to see who Rassie will be selecting for the #10 position this season.

I know who I would select.

Dave it is always better to defend a point lead towards the end of a game as opposed to trailing the other team.

Sure the other 14 players had to perform and defend to maintain a good defence in the dying minutes of a game to ensure victory but if the points gained from that kick did not count what would the result have been

Defeat is the answer. 

Dave if you subtract all the points scored with Pollards boot would we have won any of the close games as per your earlier comment made on the 27th at 00.14?

Fuck sake AJH all these if’s and but’s. If the correct calls had been made then the NZ try should not have been awarded it was an obvious forward pass - if Kolisi had made the pass we had an easy run in try. If if if…..had any of these if’s happened then Pollards kick would have been of little consequence as would have been the case had the Boks conceded a try or a kickable kick after the Pollard kick

Saying Pollard won us games is ignorance of the highest order

Moz what was the score in the France vs Italy WC pool game huh?

Pollard won us the game by converting a kick that the other #10 would not have made.

Now we all know you have your opinion but you are not always correct.

Unfortunately you cannot accept that Pollard is a better and winning #10 compared to the other choice.

Pity.

Bullshit saying that the other kicker would have missed is utter rubbish

Libbok has proved time and again that he is able to land pressure kicks

No I am not saying the other kickers are better than Pollard, I’m saying their kicking records are pretty similar

No Pollard did not win us the fucking game, he was part of us winning the game he did not win it alone - if you can’t comprehend this fact just chuck in the towel

The Fact that you guys can’t argue away, is that Rassie himself realised that hunting only for penalties, kicking the leather of the ball in the hope that opposition make a mistake or the plethora of Stampkar play, will not take us further in the hunt for another WC….Ergo the appointment of Brown to give us more needed dimensions to our game ….Ende : )

Wrong. The Boks are already an attacking force as a number of tests PROVED. 

The appointment of Brown is simply another step in the process of continual improvement. 

Nobody in their right mind thinks the Boks today can't attack. 

Rassie is a holistic thinker. No stone will be left unturned in an effort to win another RWC. He knows you have to keep evolving if you want to stay at the top. 

Of COURSE  what the Boks currently do will not be enough to win a RWC in 4 years. Other teams are not going to sit on their hands.

Rassie happens to be possibly the most in ivatuve coach we have ever had. Some very dumb oaks somehow think Rassie would suddenly stop innovating. 

No this is simply an ongoing process. 

Pretty pathetic to suggest the reason Rassie is innovating is because he realizes the Boks can't just kick the ball and hope for errors to win. Total BS from beginning to end. 

It is just another not too subtle smear by halfwits trying to puff themselves up by offering a bizarre critique of Rassie.

Rassie did enough things right to win the RWC. His challenge is to improve the team sufficiently to win another. I for one wish him all the very best in this endeavor. 

I take no nonsense from halfwitted nutters who consistently criticised Rassie and seldom if ever give him any credit. 

There is every reason to give Rassie credit. These nutjobs don't because they are fake Bok supporters. Prime examples are mozzietard and the departed Doos. 

Doubtless they would lOve Rassie to be fired in case he wins a third RWC! YES IT'S THAT BAD. They are smarting ftom the Bok triumph. Bwahahahahahahahaha haha, side splitting stuff from the fakers. 

Love of Trump, love of Rassie, love of Tucker, love of Russia. What connects the dots for HasBeen I wonder. Gosh Rassie and Russia…could it be he’s confusing two….swop a u and an e….bingo, or rather Beeno.

This has to be another globalist conspiracy.

Rassie has 2 RWCs...Russia have none. Rassie is a coach respected by all his players and all his former employers...a path to success...a patern you refuse to recognize or acknowledge...and you like to demean him, take digs at his weight and intellect...fat-shaming is so 90's...keep up with the times. 

Put a few pounds on have you Draad, you porker. How much do you actually weigh….150kgs?

Well I for one give Rassie Tassie props for getting the Kiwi on board…but a lot of time has been wasted in between…and the criticism is all for a good cause as we want the boks to be better….some people analyse deeper with different thought expression and that’s good…away from the norm with independent ideas…is refreshing and not indoctrinated….Tassie will survive:)

"How much do you actually weigh….150kgs?"

Way less than that...but more than I should...what's it to you anyway?

Dtraad in my mind's eye I've you down as a Louis Moolman lookalike .............. trust you've still got die baard.

Draad they have a shot that will fix your issue….Ozempic.

Blob, baard is less than Louis Moolman...I'm smaller than Wilco...less chins than Saffex...and I  don't need any shots, I'm fit as a fiddle...if you me and Moz go golfing, I'll carry both your bags and wait for you at the 19th...won't play too many shots myself...and BTW, I keep my beard trimmed...

Draad how many chins do you see :)

Hahaha…are you not entertained.

Saffex...it seems I've been lead astray...glad to see you're a single chin like me...gray AF though...

Dunno ouDawie, now that you're the local Mr Whippy, surrounded by lekker roomys.

I used to eat a bit of the stuff when I first started making it but that novelty has long warn off