Spingbok Post Mortem

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Sep 23, 2023, 21:08

The Bok team is not playing as a cohesive unit, probably down to having 2 B-teams and facing such a tough Irish team. 

The number one problem was the breakdown, where the Boks were missing Marx and Vermuelen. The other players did not step up enough, even with 2 open sides on the pitch. 

Rassnaber has made mistakes with selections - all raised as concerns before the match:

a. No Pole Kicker (Although Liboks form for kicking poles is bad)

b. No Specialist Hooker (Deon Fourie is not a hooker. I would rather use Escom at 2).
Dweeba is not a very good thrower either)

c. Settled Squad vs Musical Chairs (Bok team looks too individualistic)

d. Pushing too early in the scrums. (3 penalties conceded in the 2nd half)

e. No Willie Leroux on the bench to create space for tries, and plan-B.

Sep 23, 2023, 21:11

The Boks played well. What an amazing Test Match. You would have won if you scored those penalties but I did not want you to. See you guys in the Finals.

Sep 23, 2023, 21:13

Weren't good enough  to score enough  points in the first 20 when Ireland were dog shit, goal kicking was abysmal. 

Should have won by 10

Sep 23, 2023, 21:22

I haven't seen the game but the loss can be marked up to the Dud playing at 12, that chap Kriel and that bloke de Toit (multiple winner of the player of the year award) who has skinny ankles and a long neck. He's really not that tall.:ermm: and of course as Hakwa knows us kiwis had the fix in with the ref. Comment added out of respect for Beeno:P

Sep 23, 2023, 21:29

Hi JW:D What a Test Match. Wow. Yes it went according to plan. Jacques and Erasmus agreed - at the last ruck even though the ball was there in front of the ref's big eyes we whispered in his ear piece to blow the whistle for Game Over. 

Sep 23, 2023, 21:33

It's as simple as that Hakwa. Job well done!:P

But seriously, two really good teams battling it out and it sounds like no serious injuries or cards wreaking the game.

Sep 23, 2023, 21:33

We didn't turn up...

Sep 23, 2023, 21:35

We didn't turn up...

Neither did we :D

Sep 23, 2023, 21:36

You could see the difference in the guys coming out….our chaps smiling and gesticulating. The Irish deadly serious. 

Sep 23, 2023, 21:41

Moz  Part of me did want you to wipe those Irish Smirks and grins but then I again looked at the big picture

Sep 23, 2023, 22:09

Marx is below average at the breakdown, and Thor has about one good carry per game. Both players would have made no difference. Both are either slow to rucks, and/or early cleared off of it.

The team needs an entire rebuild and real coaching. Clown Pants and Igor got lucky once, and have proven it was just a flash in the pan. This is the worst ever prepared Bok side at a WC. The Irish made us look good for about 20 IQ points when they moved the ball. 

Sep 24, 2023, 00:41

Ah the big picture Hakwa…Nienaber alluded to the useful learning after we lost this anticipated contest. Sort of what the NZ coach said after Twickenham.

Sep 24, 2023, 01:21

That ball was definitely coming out of the last ruck of the game. The ref may have not seen it or perhaps it took too long, although I don't know if there is a time limit for rucks.

Sep 24, 2023, 01:26

JW the ref made some mistakes….both ways. The fact is we had several maul cracks at Ireland in the last 10 minutes. I’m so over the ref excuses.

Sep 24, 2023, 01:26

JW the ref made some mistakes….both ways. The fact is we had several maul cracks at Ireland in the last 10 minutes. I’m so over the ref excuses.

Sep 24, 2023, 01:34

Sure the ref is not to blame for the Bok loss, they had 80 minutes to win the game. I was just wondering if others thought happened in that last ruck.

Sep 24, 2023, 01:52

Must be a split second decision by the ref as to when he calls the maul collapsed. The ball of course popped out as soon as he blew the whistle but it certainly wasn’t clearly visible to me prior to that. Either way, Ireland are still serious contenders and if the ABs manage to get past Italy and make the QFinals, I’m not sure we have the cattle to take them out. The close quarter passing amongst the Irish backs and forwards was outstanding and is surely far superior to any other team at the RWC. Ireland do of course still have to beat Scotland but on today’s performance I’d say the Jocks have no show.

Sep 24, 2023, 03:12

The ball was there infront of his Big Eyes. He was staring at it as he blew time. Irritating. I did not like the fact he spent more in small chat with the Irish than the Boks. 

Sep 24, 2023, 04:10

I will sumn up the situation in 4 words - "missed kicks at goal"

Pemnnalty kicks at goasl - 5 missed 1 made

Try sonversion                 -   1 missed - 0 made.     

Sep 24, 2023, 10:39

Ou mozzz so over ref being criticused. If the Boks lose the ref mustn't be criticised. Bad ref decisions can't you a test.  The other worn out shibboleth is that the bad decisions always even out even if they don't.

Ou mozzz will grasp at any straw like a downing man when it comes to discrediting Rassie. Hahahahaha.

Given that really there was a reasonable case for not playing Pollard ( and I didn't see anybody before the match saying Pollard should play?) It was not  Rassie fault we lost the match via missed penalties and a failed conversion.


Sep 24, 2023, 10:53

The coaching staff insisted they're not worried about goal kicking in the weeks leading up to this game. It seems they're not worried about a lot of things they should be worried about. Flashing lights won't send the ball between the uprights.

Sep 24, 2023, 10:57


Sep 24, 2023, 11:18

Flashing lights won't make the BS going through the posts. Wow Pakster strikes gold. 


So without Pollard who would you have picked. 

I note that the misses were very close. 

Sep 24, 2023, 11:21

The game was lost due to the fact that the Springboks did not have reliable post kicker in the squad.

Libbok is piss poor at the very best and Faf was really no better.

Libbok is out of his league and it shows big time.

At least 14 points missed.

No top team can afford to miss so many kicks espically against a team rated #1 in the world.

Hats off to the Irish.



 
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