Springbok team to face Australia in Perth

15 – Aphelele Fassi (Hollywoodbets Sharks) - 5 caps, 10 points (2t)
14 – Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath) – 34 caps, 101 points (16t, 3c, 5p)
13 – Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles) – 72 caps, 80 points (16t)
12 – Lukhanyo Am (Hollywoodbets Sharks) - 36 caps, 35 pts (7t)
11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Hollywoodbets Sharks) - 43 caps, 150 points (30t)
10 – Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (DHL Stormers) - 5 caps, 25 points (11c, 1p)
9 – Morne van den Berg (Emirates Lions) – 1 cap, O points
8 – Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls) – 5 caps, 0 points
7 – Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz) – 80 caps, 45 points (9t)
6 – Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls) – 21 caps, 0 pts
5 – Ruan Nortje (Vodacom Bulls) – 1 cap, O points
4 – Salmaan Moerat (captain, DHL Stormers) - 8 caps, 0 points
3 – Thomas du Toit (Bath) - 19 caps, 0 pts
2 – Johan Grobbelaar (Vodacom Bulls) – 1 cap, 0 points
1 – Jan-Hendrik Wessels (Vodacom Bulls) – 1 cap, 5 points (1t)

Replacements:

16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 68 caps, 85 points (17t)
17 – Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 32 caps, 0 pts
18 – Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 53 caps, 0 points
19 – Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 123 caps, 30 points (6t)
20 – Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs) – 44 caps, 40 pts (8t)
21 – Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 12 caps, 10 points (2t)
22 – Manie Libbok (DHL Stormers) - 15 caps, 91 pts (1t, 28c, 10p)
23 – Handré Pollard (Leicester Tigers) – 72 caps, 732 points (7t, 98c, 162p, 5dg)

Oh wow, Rassie rolled the dice on this one. Thought he would be conservative. Just hope it doesn't backfire, but this is pretty much the same team that beat Wales comfortable. 

Still don't get why Moerat is chosen as captain and player. Bog ordinary player, probably the next Marvellous Marvin Orie. 

Excited to see this team. To think we still have Willemse, Moodie and Hendrikse to come back. 

Also notice no Kolisi, probably a rule now that you can't select a white captain. 

But enough experience on the bench to turn things around.  

I tink the above team will win anyway and h drstic chnages are  really  bit of a farce - but in some ways an improvement.  I like the idea of playing Mo rne van den berg at scrumhalf and also resting he two locks.   Same applies to the props. 

I anm also happy about playinng Grobbelaar at hooker.

The fact is there are biggr things to fry and that in paricular is the All Blacks - first in SA. and then against Argentina.   

Fassi can really make a name for himself in this test anyway.        

It’s a wonderful year. First we play Oz, the weakest RC team away….and boy are they bad!. Then NZ have looked awful under Razor with some weird selections. We play this worst ever AB team at home.

Really the only challenge is Bargie away….but even if we lose that we should only need to beat Bargie at home in the final match to win the RC….the easiest ever.

And then on the YE tour we don’t play either France or Ireland, only the Poms and Scotland. It’s a year to dream big dreams. The fly comes later in 26 and 27 as our ancient pack starts to implode.

This team got one move right…deep sixing Dud Allende. But then blow things moving  Dud Toit back to flank and making Moerat captain. Eluckmiss trying to be unpredictable and the center of attention.

Mozart

Read the following Nick Feinberg said about Erasmus:-

https://www.sabcsport.com/rugby/news/father-of-rising-springbok-star-hails-rassie-erasmus-impact-on-son-s-career

You had a hissy fit about the average age of the team that played last Saturday - I looked at the average age of te starting 15 this week is 27,3.   There are laers like Mapimpi Dlamini and Am likely to be phased out this yearm  Want to repeat the hissy fit again.  

Yet you labeled HM’s team which averaged 27.6 a team of geriatrics. And that  team was selected to play the WC semi final, not a nothing RC test against the weakest Aussie team ever. And the bench for Saturday averages north of 30….the insurance policy.

What position does "Dlamini" play??

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Am at 12 will be interesting….I would start Kwagga instead of van staden….the latter has not been convincing on field…Rassie should have left Pieter S at 5 lock as the Captain, with Nortje and Ben J Dixon at 7…Moerat of the bench.

Don't know why there are 3 10s on the park? 

When will Manie come on and where will Pollard Play? 

Wondering how this will play out during the Match. 

Will Sasha shift to 12? Manie come on at 10? 

Does Fassi get the hook or will they play him the whole game. 

Drop Zulu to 15, bring Pollard on at 12 Manie to 15? 

I think the goal would be to play the team as long as possible. If the guys are tanking then bring the old heads on earlier, if they are winning, let them play as long as they can and then just bring the subs on the last 15 or 10 min. 

KC

According to comment from Pollard he wil be coming on at 12 to replace Am   The rest is pure  guessing.    

Mozart

You are misleading and nobody can discuss anyhing with you,   You were talking about the 2024 squad  - and I responded referring to Meyer's 2012  squad to couner your BS attack on Erasmus,   Then realizing  you had no answer - you then quite the Springboks 2015 team in the WC semi.   

The younger players had to play since the older ones buggered up royally and/or was injured in the earlier stages of the tournamnet//.   

Now you ar coming with anoter angle -  the teams he Sprin gboks face this year is so poor - victories agaisthem deserve no praise/    If thy lose any test - they will according to you a poor team.

How long does it take you to find reasons for attacks on Erasmus - domness?           

Rubbish you raised the 2015 team and I quote you:

‘By the time the WC took place he had added players like Matfoeld to te squad and the average age of the playing team was acually very near to 33 yeas of age’

Sound sufficiently garbled? You lied, even your friend Draad admitted you lied.

Libbok will go to 10, Pollard to 12 where he played when he came on in the first test

Aussies won 18 of 20 lineouts…the Boks 14 of 16. One of the lineouts the Boks lost was 15 metres from the Wallaby line when Dud Toit was outjumped. The Aussies won most  lineouts mid to back where the Dud was jumping. Overall he had decent game, but in the lineouts he was no Mostert.

Would that be PSDT the guy that won man of the match you plonker?

Well my MOM wouldn’t lose his lineout  close to the oppo try line

Nor would he blow a try scoring chance with a silly no look pass when we were 5 metres out.

That’s a possible 14 points he blew…..he did score a decent try where he ran a good line off a Zulu pass. So perhaps a 7 point negative.

Ah ok so PSDT had a bad game did he and those that selected him as mom are just a bunch of fools

Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself with your take on PSDT?

So he didn’t blow those try scoring chances… do you enjoy yourself being a brain dead groupie,

No he never blew a single scoring opportunity and in fact scored a great try running a great line - something useless Mostert could only dream of doing

Now you’re lying…..losing a lineout 15 metres out and throwing a wild pass which the opposition recovered 5 metres from their line constitutes blowing 2 try opportunities. Try to be honest.

No you are lying the only player that blew a scoring opportunity was Willie with his shocking decision to cut in

Your takes are a load of utter fabricated shit as per usual

PSDT had yet another fantastic test as he keeps having test after test

He is not a good player, he is pure class whether at 5 or 7

Who was MOTM?

PSDT

The most inexperienced Bok tight 5 ever?

The most experienced Bok bench ever?

Replacements:

16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 68 caps, 85 points (17t)
17 – Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 32 caps, 0 pts
18 – Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 53 caps, 0 points
19 – Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 123 caps, 30 points (6t)
20 – Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs) – 44 caps, 40 pts (8t)
21 – Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 12 caps, 10 points (2t)
22 – Manie Libbok (DHL Stormers) - 15 caps, 91 pts (1t, 28c, 10p)
23 – Handré Pollard (Leicester Tigers) – 72 caps, 732 points (7t, 98c, 162p, 5dg)

A strong bench....

I don't get both Manie and Pollard on the bench...even if Pollard is considered as the 12 replacement...giving everybody a run probably...

This team can backfire spectacularly...it's still the Wallabies in Australia. A totally unnecessary risk.

Agreed Draad and it’s not like we are playing the next of the best, take the lock partnership for instance. Then we have Wessels at 1 who has played most of his rugby at 2

What’s the fascination with v Staaden at 6 - more dumb muscle

Why not have a specialist young 12 in the squad instead of having to move Am to 12 and have Pollard coming off the bench as a 12.

Some of Rassie’s calls make no sense at all

Minute 19.40 ….all Dud Toit needs to do is hold his feet and offload…..’they must  score’ says the commentator. But Dud is motionless, can’t hold his feet and throws a backhand pass which goes forward. Ball turned over to Oz 5 metres out. 

"Indecent Obsession" was a 90s Aussie boy band....

Not really. I thought Dud was better at lock, but given he botched two try scoring chances, clearly not the MOM let alone the 9.5 rating one of these shills who pose as rugby writers, gave him.

So you really never knew who the MOM was, or are you becoming as dishonest as your uncle?

Jessie Kriel was probably the MOM , but Arendse and Zulu also had fair claims.

Mozart

You again did not watch the match and came up with BS about Du Toit.   Kep t up - fools neve see anything  they do not wat to see.

Minute 44.14…...the Boks have the throw in, twelve meters out. Line out captain Dud Toit calls himself but the Aussies read the play and set up ahead of him and he fails to move towards the ball ….Aussies steal the lineout and a clear clear chance for a maul try lost.

Bad throw-in - BSter and the forwards decide where the throw-in goes - not ome particular player.   That system that a speciifc player calls line-outs has been out of use years ago.   Have you not see before any line-out there is a short discussion between the forwards on the throw-in?

BSter caught out again spreading BS.   If there was a Line-ou Captain as you cal it - then why do all the forwards meet - all that would happen is that the mysticl line-out captain alone talks to the hooker as to where the ball should go anyway.    There is n such term in rugby anyway.          

Schplottttt! Please stop Wanker I am truly tired of schooling you.

Most Mozart Idiocy on display,   The whole ssyem of  calling line-outs have been kicked out of existence yeas ago.   There is no specifc player calling line-outs -  It was stoppe since it as so badly executed and apparen for opposition to counter/

The game moved on from the Matfirld days when he called all lineputs - it faded in the last 16 months when the opposing teams in line-puts took too many balls appl;icable from thee Sprinngboks and was not used since 2018,   

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https://youtu.be/HbYbbZtqIJI

All Blacks: 15. Beauden Barrett, 14. Will Jordan, 13. Rieko Ioane, 12. Jordie Barrett, 11. Caleb Clarke, 10. Damian McKenzie, 9. TJ Perenara, 8. Ardie Savea (c), 7. Dalton Papali’i, 6. Ethan Blackadder, 5. Sam Darry, 4. Tupou Vaa’i, 3. Tyrel Lomax, 2. Codie Taylor, 1. Tamaiti Williams

Reserves: 16. Asafo Aumua, 17. Ofa Tu’ungafasi, 18. Fletcher Newell, 19. Josh Lord, 20. Sam Cane, 21. Cortez Ratima, 22. Anton Lienert-Brown, 23. Mark Tele’a

Mozat

Either you are a deceiver or smthing similar/    You do not even undertand what happened iro my comments/   You were acting like a prima donna whining bout the age of players and you wnt on to claim that it wa the first time in Spring bok history that a team that old was selected.   Now we all know that 2024 is the first year o the 3 year cycle to work towards the 2027 RWC.

So the equivalent year to eb com[ared was 2012,   I commented on tha awful struidity and then because you were caught out again talking BS switch the issue t the 2015 WC team that played in the semi against the AB;s in 2015,   Not very clever at all.

There was anther issue tat played a role in the 2015 team story and that was Meyer seelcted the worst WC squad ever.  There wre in fact 8 unplayable players in that squad and as is normal in RWC tests aganst weaker teams the experienced players were to be rested,   

But tn the Japanm disaster appened in which te older players played like shit and in the next match.    The resut was that the unplayable plaers could not eb used properly in the round robin matches ad two of he oldest team membes vnished from sight and the youngster had to play for test after test,    The youngest players in the team constantly had to start n tests because the older players were not producing the goods. 

But lets get back to the real topic and nt the decit emanatog from you re aalways BST and one expect better from you than what is now coming out,    You suffer from to systems all coming out.   The are TDS and EDS,    You cab surely work out what those two syndroms are.

Once again….I made the point that the Boks were very old starting the WC cycle. You then posted this:

clevermike

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You introduced the 2015 team age, I didn’t….and you lied about it.  And you refuse acknowledge that HM’s team was 3 years younger than the 2023 team. You just lie….we all know you are lying…you know that we know you are lying. But you are so far gone…you simply continue lying.

Your own words the ‘playing team in 2015 was nearly 33’…..they were 27.68. You exaggerated their age by 4 years. Disgusting.

Another lot of BS  - I refer secificaly to 20-13 when the matter ws made worse by getting Matfield and Du Preez back aftr eir retireent.   I never mentione 2015 and you went all-out to spread BS as per normal   

‘By the time the WC took place he had added players like Matfoeld to te squad and the average age of the playing team was acually very near to 33 yeas of age.’

What does this mean, ‘by the time the WC took place’’? 2013 or 2015?

Hello?