Springbok team Announcement for Portugal

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Jul 16, 2024, 13:48

Springboks – 15 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Evan Roos, 7 Ben-Jason Dixon, 6 Phepsi Buthelezi, 5 RG Snyman, 4 Salmaan Moerat (c), 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Jan-Hendrik Wessels.
Subs: 16 Andre-Hugo Venter, 17 Ntuthuko Mchunu, 18 Trevor Nyakane, 19 Ruan Venter, 20 Elrigh Louw, 21 Morne van den Berg, 22 Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu, 23 Quan Horn.

Jul 16, 2024, 13:57

I don't know why some of these players are even in the team and wonder whether it is just another cap being thrown away. 

In the backline, I question why Reinach, at 35 is being selected and why Mapimpi is still even in the team. 

See Libbok is back, I still have questions over him and would have just started with Feinberg as a 10 and let him have a season to be the boks backup if that is the plan.  Manie has now slipped down to 5 on my list. Yes, he has some fantastic hands and stepping ability. Good punter, but poor goal kicker and lose the ball in contact to often. His defence is really weak too. 

Pepsi is not an 6, he is a decent player but not international quality. 

Why on earth is Moerat even captain. He has never impressed me at all. He is slow, not a great ball carrier or even any good at the line out. Between him and Dweeb, they are the single reason why the stormers line outs fail so often. 

Nice to see Du Toit back back for the boks. But why on earth is Fat Trev still in the team, another 35 year old sucking up air. We have plenty of props now. 

Mchunu, the verdict is still out on him as scrummager, but I like what I saw of him in the Saarks last few games. 

I think Rassie had to still meet some quota targets, probably the only reason why Trev is still there. 

I hope Am can find his magic. Nice to see him and Esterhuizen finally pairing up. The two of them compliment each other really well and we hopefully will see more from Am. 

Not sure why Jan-Hendrik has been selected at prop. He folded in halve when he played there two years ago. 

Finally, Grobbies is on the park. I think he should have been capped 2 years ago and not wasted their time with Dweeb as window dressing. 

We could have moved Fassi to wing and Horn and full back. 

I don't think we will learn much from this game to be honest. 

I wish we had some proper tours or mid week games. I would have been great to have the Ireland A play SA A. 


Jul 16, 2024, 14:09

Eluckmiss is really struggling with this team renewal thing…this team is a polyglot of about 5 different agendas,

Jul 16, 2024, 15:01

Actually very frustrating if you think a Reinach gets chosen, but it would be a perfect opportunity for Nohamba.

Agree on Jan Hendrik Wessels is a hooker and did not fare well as a loose head….same story as when they tried John smit as a prop and he got destroyed….Trevor makes absolutely no sense… should have been Wilco with Thomas at Loosehead.

Mchunu is good in the loose, but not really strong at scrumming….Pepsi is good, but the thisituka Brothers is better….Libbok does not deserve the crap his getting.

Why start RG? Should’ve been Ruben v Heerden….Moerat is not a world class lock, his ok but not at that level…Ruan vermaak Better option…. And Mapimpi is still ok, we know that, but try new talent like Zas.

Instead of Arendse start Hartzenberg the stormers wing that was in the alignment camp…Eluckmiss is missing something, yet again some of his selections make no sense…Can only be 5 different kinds of agendas.

Jul 16, 2024, 16:41

My 5 cents:

15 Aphelele Fassi
A good selection, He needs more game time. He is excellent under the high ball and perhaps the best playmaker next to Willie Leroux

14 Kurt-Lee Arendse-
Good selection, but not sure if Moodie is still injured.

 13 Lukhanyo Am - 
Good selection, Back from injury, makes sense to start him with an easier game.

 12 Andre Esterhuizen
Good selection.  An Excellent club player, but somehow has not been as consistent at test level. He needs to bring his all-around play to test rugby

11 Makazole Mapimpi
A bad selection. It is time to move on.

10 Manie Libbok
A good selection. His only issue is polekicking.

9 Cobus Reinach
A bad selection. The Boks have depth at 9, bring in more talent

8 Evan Roos
Good selection. He needs to have a good game to play himself into the main team

7 Ben-Jason Dixon
TBC

6 Phepsi Buthelezi
Is he test level?

5 RG Snyman
Good selection, but needs more game time


4 Salmaan Moerat (c)
A good selection, but has to prove more.

3 Thomas du Toit
A good selection, but I have always felt he should have stayed at loosehead.

 2 Johan Grobbelaar,
Good selection

1 Jan-Hendrik Wessels.
TBA

Subs: 16 Andre-Hugo Venter,
About time he got a run

17 Ntuthuko Mchunu,
TBC

18 Trevor Nyakane
Why is this advert for KFC still in the squad.

19 Ruan Venter


20 Elrigh Louw
Good selection. Needs more game time


21 Morne van den Berg

22 Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu
Good selection, unfortunate not to start at 10.

23 Quan Horn. 
TBA

Jul 16, 2024, 17:02

It’s a stupid selection it’s missing out on the opportunity to blood new players

What the fuck are Reinach, Mapimpi and Nyakane doing in the side fuck me they are all past it,

Not convinced Esterhuizen and Am should be there either - they have nothing to prove. Send them back to the CC for game time and cap a young centre pairing of say David Kriel and Ethan Hooker

Would have been the perfect opportunity to cap Green instead of Mapimpi and someone like Tambwe instead of Arendse who has zero to prove.

Why the fuck have Ruan Venter doubling as a lock when you could have capped the impressive Ruben v Heerden off the bench.

Reinach at 9 ahead of Papier, Jantjies or Nohamba is extremely short sighted - what the fuck is 35 year old Reinach going to offer the squad moving forward

Nyakane ahead of Wilco - give me a break

Disagree 100% with those on here anti Buthelezi and Moerat, both are quality players

Buthelezi should only play 6 he is too small for 8. He is a good linking forward

Not convinced by Horn on the bench, he is too small, good provincial player but can’t see him setting the test arena alight

His selection ahead of David Kriel is a joke

Wake up Rassie for fuck sake - this side sells us well short on new blood

Jul 16, 2024, 17:21

An Excellent club player, but somehow has not been as consistent at test level. He needs to bring his all-around play to test rugby

They should have stuck with Esterhuizen after he destroyed Aus in 2018. Nothing wrong with his test performances, especially considering the deal he's getting as bag carrier/very very part timer. Unfortunately DDA has some kind of glue to his ass.

Jul 16, 2024, 17:28

Reinach and Arendse are strange selections. I would have given whatsisname that played against Wales a run again. Edwill. And Williams could have had a proper game. Reinach is not going to the next WC. Don't know much about some of the young forwards so can't comment.

Jul 16, 2024, 18:13

Edwill is injured … A guy like Reinach or Trevor has still got a Bok contract , so to justify there huge salaries they must still play some kind of roll…Rassie should get rid of these older players….just saw the video of Rassie explaining his selections and he makes no sense…..besides that he looks very tired and stressed out.

Jul 16, 2024, 18:44

Dave you have to admit this team selection is just plain stupid.

Rassie must have been pissed to select such a team.

Moerat is the Captain for the test as well, I ask you.

Jul 16, 2024, 19:28

Edwill is injured …

Ah yes, I recall something like that now.

Jul 16, 2024, 19:36

"Eluckmiss is really struggling with this team renewal thing…this team is a polyglot of about 5 different agendas,"

Have to agree. This isn't even an A or B side...this isn't a twam. A few fringe players and has-beens thrown together...nonsensical,  can't understand what he thinks he can accomplish...can't spot the method  in this madness...but he's probably got some sort of agenda...

Jul 16, 2024, 20:45

The team should have been made up of fringe players with only a handful of caps and the best new talent about.

The options in this regard are endless:

15. Fassi / Gelant

14/11. Green / Nkosi / Tambwe / Davids / Hartzenberg / Jacobs / Zas

13/12. David Kriel / Hooker / Hendrikse / Jurenzo Julius / Dan du Plessis / Similane / Sherwood / Marnus Potgieter

10. Sacha / Masuku / Libbok / Chamberlain

9. Williams / Papier / Nohamba / Jantjies / vd Bergh

1/3. Steenkamp / Mchunu / Wessels / Matanzima / Thomas / Wilco / Sadie / Hanro Jacobs / Klopper

2. Dweba / Grobelaar / AH Venter / Kotze

4/5. Jenkins / Moerat / Ruan Vermaak / Ruben v Heerden / JF v Heerden / Andre Smith / Reignardt Ludwig / Rahl / Nortje

6/7/8. Buthelezi / James Venter / v/ Staaden/ BJ Dixon / JL du Preez / Ruan Venter / Vincent Tsituka / Elrigh Louw / Liebenberg/ Roos / Dayamani / Dan du Preez / Emmanuel Tsituka / Gumede / Augustus / Horn

Jul 16, 2024, 21:18

Looking at the list of Talent available to SA Rugby in comparison to what is actually being used, is it not fair to assume that Rassie Erasmus is not doing his Job Properly??

 
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