So the squad that we have now, will only change if there is injury…..not much hope for players knocking on the door….and interesting to hear that Willie plays a lot on Flyhalf in Japan….and it looks like he might be used as the Third Flyhalf option @ the WC.
Well it was good to hear an unemotional assessment about the test against the wee abs.
It must have seemed to the oaks you were hearing Beeno speaking!
Note the point about playing rusty players.
So yes we won the the last 60 minutes 17-15. However that did not include two disallowed tries one of which was undoubtedly a try. Or how about a conversion hitting the post and Kwagga's try near the post not being converted.
All in all we were extremely close in getting another 19 points.
But all these things were disregarded by over emotional oaks.
So congrats to Nieaber for getting it right just like Beeno did from the get go. Hahahahaha. It's called rugby acumen oaks. In short supply in some quarters! 
I see we are going to have an extremely tough draw.
Hope Handre Pollard is fit and ready for RWC.
If we won 60 min of the game and AB only First 20, how the Hell did we loose?? Make no mistake we had a very very poor start and yes we did fight back, but I can admit that we were totally outplayed and squeezed for 80 min by the AB…Superior Game plan, Superior commitment made them the worthy winners… in Nienhaber speech is also a lot of deflection and bla bla, not real clarity…all i know is that the way we played against AB, we have no hope in hell to win the WC.
Mampara power do the maths oak. We could very easily have win the 60 minutes by 2 plus 19 = 21 points.
Mampara power please apply lonely brain cells before posting. Try and follow what the coach is saying. Nice to see a rational man not reaction with emotional nonsense.
Thanks
Beeno Biscuits if you want to live in denial and always rely on “ we could of won” then by all means…but don’t make your problems my problem….Thanks in advance : )
How Jessie Kriel can be the face of Bok rugby is a mystery.
The Boks are so riddled with mediocrity it really doesn't faze me anymore. It seems appropriate. There was a time when Kriel was one to worst players in the squad. Now he is one of the better ones. It's a very cruel time to follow the Boks.
Doos speaking utter horse shit yet again
Jessie now one of the best players in the squad bwhaaahaaaaa
Not sure which is worse - that comment or Arendse is not test standard
Doos you are soooooo funny
Arendse cannot compete in the air, can't defend, and cannot work constructively on attack. He is a track runner who can run into free space. That's not a quality rugby player.
But do go ahead Coach... lets have your references for Marx and Libbok. You seem to always know better, but you can never give specifics... just errant conclusions that defy logic and fact.
Arendse is fine in the air, is very good defensively and brilliant in an attacking sense whether constructively or from broken play
Right now he, Ntamack and Jordan have to be the best wings in the game
Marx was a game changer when he came on Libbok had little time against NZ but was fantastic against Oz
If you think I’m going to go watch the Bok second half again just to reference how good Marx was then you are even more stupid than I know you are
I would not piss on you if you were on fire so why would I waste 40min of my life on you
I just recall Marx making a huge difference, referenced by every article on the game
Hmm, just rubbish being spouted. I'm sorry but they keep getting things wrong when selecting players and it tells on the pitch.
Also, abs showed how to dismantle Nienaber defense. Squid rugby did a really good analysis on this.
The score board still reads lost by 15 points and even we did get the Kolbe try and conversion of the kwagga try. We are still 6 points short.
You should always field in form players.
How do we have to see under cook players who haven't played a game for several months or there first game back from injury?
I also stressed that the Japan boks will need to become match sharp.
Then, look at New Zealand. They currently have a 15s team playing a series against Japan, in Japan to keep players match sharp.
Sounds old excuses. I have heard this from Pieter DE Villiers and also from Coetzee
"I just recall Marx making a huge difference, referenced by every article on the game."
And referenced by me during the game, on its thread.
Made an immediate nuisance of himself.
He has that "presence" and should be this team's leader.
"Squid rugby did a really good analysis on this."
I like how this guy has built himself up. Looking forward to his WC vids.
Marx didn't have much of an impact for a good while after he was on. He popped up at the tail of the farcical lineout, and that was it. He wasn't especially effective at anything.
Doos shut up you ignorant prick
No one sees it like you do, take a look in the mirror you fool
Has anybody been able to explain the 3 minutes into the second half brining on of Marx and RG?
Deus, after Marx came on the line outs where near perfect.
He immediately began scratching around the AB ruck and slowing them down.
When Marx and RG came in the Boks made 60m in the very next play and then took control of the game for a good long period.
That's how I remember it anyway.
Marx's inspirational, got McCaw like qualities
This is utter nonsense. What field presence did Marx have? McCaw, an average player, did have actual leadership qualities. Where was the communication from Marx? Where was the production? Marx was not integral to any aspect of the Bok play. He was a much lesser presence at the breakdowns (attack and defence) than Kwagga, Steph, Koch, Eben. I cannot recall a moment where Marx slowed any ball down. There is a gross overestimation of the Bok's meager second half and then no analytical capacity to understand what any player did on the field. The biggest marker of this was Willie. None of you saw Willie playing 10, and instead, it was a fight between Willemse and the woefully inadequate and inferior Libbok. I am appalled by the ineptitude of it all.
Agreed, Blo
He was our Graeme Smith.
Would likely walk into any side in the world and leads from the front.
BEE is just the best, is it!?
I saw Willie playing 10, Deus….
Lots of forward play gets missed, at least when you look at individual performances.
None of the bomb squad had a great individual game, but the team looked completely different.
Each time one of the bench like Marx, Duitoit, Vermuelen, and Snyman got onto the pitch, the pack looked better as a unit
The Bok pack was more observably overpowered in the second half. Du Toit added pressure, that has been admitted, and RG muscle... the rest were barely present. Thor did almost nothing of note. We may have looked a little better in the scrums, but that's where it ended. The casuals are desperate to assert that the second half proved the Boks were the better team... it actually proved the opposite. Marx was much better than Bongi, but he was not very good on the day. I've been through this game ruck by ruck.
I don't think the Boks were better than the ABs in the second half.
I do think they were far superior to the first half Boks though...and the dividing line was when Marx and RG got subbed on together.
The Boks were better than the AB’s in the second half - the scoring confirms that
We got our selections wrong - we certainly did not start that test with the correct side
Arendse for Mapimpi
Libbok for Willemse
Marx for Bongi
RG for Lood
PSDT for Mostert
v Staaden for Kwagga
Roos for Wiese
Makes that a better Bok side
Truth is, Deus probably did watch the game a lot more closely than the rest of us. I went through some his review and he doesn't really miss a beat with his reporting on it.
For me, what Marx brings is that presence that only great players have. He can have an average day but still exert massive influence simply because of the respect he gets. Bongi doesn't get nor deserve similar levels of fear.
The ABs made fewer mistakes than us in the 2nd half and let's also remember that they were actually brave enough to try build an even bigger score as opposed to closing up shop.
Had they decided to tighten things up, I doubt the score line would have been as flattering to us.
It's all ifs and buts...but I know that never came away from the second half thinking we were better than them in the last 40.
To be honest, I'm kinda glad we lost. I hope we struggle all the way to the WC because hopefully that lights a fire under our arses.
The game was a lot closer than that
The AB’s were great in the first 20, they kicked more than we did and we were poor under those kicks
Kolbe’s disallowed try was a try and Eben should have scored his.
The Bok replacements in the second half gave us the edge and we won that half
The AB’s also had the rub of the green on the day, especially for Jordan with the ball bouncing into his hands circled by Boks and that knock forward in the in goal to score
The AB’s deserved the win which might not have been the case had Arendse, Libbok, Marx, RG, v Staaden and PSDT started
For as much as a dislike a some what ABs represent, I have to give them credit. Their mentality is admirable.
They've never been a team to close-up shop once they're in a healthy lead. They'll always try to put more scores past you.
That's how winners play the game...any game.
Agreed….this is what the Boks are missing…that killer instinct to carry on till the end….we have it to a degree but not at a consistent level that is needed….For a astute Rugby man that should know better, Rassie keeps on not getting it right…. That makes us play catch-up Rugby most of the time….no one really knows what they are working towards for the Future…so far with the lack of player depth and Rather sticking with basically the same 2019 squad, there is not much thought given to Future but Rather a last Hooray for Coach and Players.
It takes accuracy and composure. They are also far more skillful than us. We are poorly coached and it shows.
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