Tough match ….Deus most probably got tired of being personally insulted….but it looks to be a norm on here….whatever happened to common decency and respect??
Tough match ….Deus most probably got tired of being personally insulted….but it looks to be a norm on here….whatever happened to common decency and respect??
Thank fuck useless ignorant Doos has fucked off he is no loss at all
He left because the Boks thanks to Rassie won the WC - he is a yellow belly coward, too scared to face the music
The Boks in spite of Erasmus as Peeper aptly put it and because of Pollard won the cup by getting heads three times in a row…hence Eluckmiss.
The departure of Deus dropped the Board IQ significantly.
Bullshit Rassie, the best coach in the business directed our 23 to winning the most difficult WC ever
The man is a genius
Doos is the most ignorant rugby poster I have ever come across and a complete prick to boot
If that is a measure of IQ then it makes sense you get so many rugby calls so wrong
Deus left because that's what he does...he'll be back in a while...with a new nick...he's got outlandish ideas, but he's no coward...he'll be back...and stand by the same ideas.
Deus has Eluckmiss by 30 IQ points
Doos went ballistic when the Boks won. He was even wore than the frot mozzzie. I have never seen a supposedly Bok supporter insult the Boks and of course Rassie like he did.
The poor guy was egged on by the malignant mozzzie. They both considered themselves highly intelligent and very knowledgeable about rugby. For years Mozzie attacked Rassie and made as ass of himself. Along the way he acquired Doos as a sidekick and much of what happened to Doos subsequently can be blamed on Mozzzie's bad influence.
Mozzie's solution to all his bad mouthing of Bok rugby and the coach was to make post after post claiming this win all about luck and one player Pollard. he could never rejoice in the win and see what it had really entailed.
Doos took another route. Thoroughly embarrassed he departed the humiliating scene.
Its all a bit of a tragedy. People talk about Trump Derangement syndrome. But Rassie Derangement Syndrome played out in front of our eyes and led to the demise of one poster. Mozzzie tried to bluff his way through the debacle thinking he could con the board and succeed in devaluing this amazing RWC win. He didn't succeed but he did get Plumster as a side kick and I really wonder where that one will end up.
Personally I hope ou Doos does come back although he must understand his insulting of the Boks is totally unacceptable.
Let’s hope Doos never returns - fuck me that rugby ignorance is a massive irritation
Fucking coward
He didn't understand the game but never realised this. Some of his takes were completely absurd. But its all grist to the mill.
Bring Doos back
An amazing genius no doubt….all he needed was Pollard kicking 9 in a row (probability 7.5%)…Ramos, Mo’unga and Barrett missing kicks they would normally make, Caine getting a dubious red and Steward failing to end the game by kicking deep, gifting the Boks a scrum penalty inside his half.
Incredible that he visualized all those things and incorporated it in his game plan. Hahaha…you can fool some of the people all of the time.
"Hahaha…you can fool some of the people all of the time."
Yes of course Doos was an ignorant yet self-important rugby noob and a weak coward . . . but he did add some great comedy value to the board.
He'll come crawling back with a new name hoping the humiliation has passed . . . as he's done in the past about 35 times already . . . it's how he rolls.
". . . all he needed was Pollard kicking 9 in a row (probability 7.5%)…Ramos, Mo’unga and Barrett missing kicks they would normally make, Caine getting a dubious red and Steward failing to end the game by kicking deep, gifting the Boks a scrum penalty inside his half."
I couldn't stand Meyer.
I hated everything about how he wanted the Boks to play. Duane's comment about the coach telling them not to offload cemented it for me.
As I recall, others felt similarly about the man. Indeed, many of the Rassie cult members too.
Perhaps someone should define the rules for being a Bok supporter and patriot.
Rassie's cult members you say Plumster Bwahahahhahahahahahaha why not give credit to a coach with 2 RWC wins. Who has don us proud.
Talk about sour grapes. 
Beeno, the ever-tribalist...
Here is exactly what I have said about Rassie on this site...
1) I could not stand that Meyer was happy for us to be 3rd best in the world and stay there. During Meyer's tenure, I specifically said I would like a coach who is willing to take chances and lose some games against inferior teams if it means we beat the All Blacks more regularly and have a real chance of beating the best teams in the world. And that is exactly what Rassie did so I cannot complain. I said that here...very recently.
2) That Russie has won silverware and that you can argue with numbers/legacy.
3) That most of Rassie's selections are exactly the players I would select... other than DDA because I cannot stand him.
4) That this run from 1/4s to the final is the greatest in Rugby history and responsible for probably the best WC of all time.
I could go on.
The problem, Beeno, is that you cannot stand when somebody has a different opinion to you. For somebody to be the worst of the worst, they simply have to disagree with you. Evil = Don't be a Trump supporter. Unpatriotic = have a criticism of Rassie...
You need to get over yourself and realise that your consciousness is NOT the seat of all the truth in the universe.
And yes, the use of the term "Cult" is exactly right. The way some guys here respond to any criticism of him is exactly how people respond when their cult leader is discussed in any negative light. It's about an accurate description as there is.
I honestly can't understand why you would try to make it appear as though I'm not stoked that we won the WC. What are your motivations? Does it make it easier for you when you can people on the other side of the fence? Are you afraid of nuance...of middle ground...of grey areas?
Tell me, do you actually want a world where everybody is in complete agreement with you, all the time? It seems like it.
"I honestly can't understand why you would try to make it appear as though I'm not stoked that we won the WC. What are your motivations? "
ButtPlug, when your master told us how "dispiriting" this RWC win was you immediately went full Servile Gimp and started defending him and agreeing with all his laughable reasons why we shouldn't have won.
Go back and check if you don't believe me.
Nothing more repulsive to me than a suck-up. Baboon-ou used to be the biggest suck-up of them all but at least he's seen the light . . . as have a few others. You still fawn and grovel and beg for little crumbs of approval . . . from a pompous and self-important old loser nogal.
LMAO!
Tribalism, cult members because we support a coach who achieved great things. Really. Get a grip Plum.
Where is you criticism of mozzzie who has been after Rassie for many years. Is he a member of a tribe/cult who is anti Rassie. Why the silence?
Your one eyed take on matters and calling Crusader fan a drunk rather upsets you positioning of yourself as the voice of reason. Bwahahhahahahahahahaa
But I give you credit for what you said about Rassie above as you were right.
Bye the way defending what you believe is correct and debunking nonsense is the way to go! Hence my vigorously opposing men in women's sports and calling those people who support this crazy loons. No apologies either. Society would be much healthier adopting my mainstream views than going down the perverted woke rabbit hole. Ditto on many subjects.
Nope no chance of me stopping calling our perverted, Luciferian corruption. Others can have their opinions, I don't call for censorship like the Stalinist left does, but if they are wrong they get notified.
Rassie is by some distance the best coach the Boks have ever had
Winning this last WC, the most difficult route ever cemented his status forever
As his players say - the man is a rugby genius
ai...we love free speech so much but we quickly forget that free speech means defending the right of others to say things we disagree with. It's the most important part of free speech unless you can provide me a more foundational element to this thing we supposedly value so dearly.
Tell me, do you guys want to log on here and only see everybody worshipping Rassie?
If that, and similar, was the case here then I'd have evacuated the space ages ago.
Variety of opinions boys, it's necessary?
Beeno, you quickly forget how I defend your opinions regarding religion, even though I have never agreed with them. I have written essays in that regard on here. But that understanding isn't enough. No, one must be 100% on the same ground, or else nothing is worth anything. Moz has done the same. Now, how many non-believers here have done that?
Could it perhaps be that it is because both Moz and myself can entertain and defend ideas even if we don't agree with them?
I didn't see you complain when I entertained your ideas without actually believing them.
Ah, but offering others the same privilege is too much.
It's funny how basic this place can be.
The truth is, Moz is simply smarter than you guys. It's very evident and anyone reading the posts on here can glean that within about two minutes. And I think that grates on both of you. ITs actually pretty funny.
Don't walk away from smarter people chaps. Walk to them.
It'll benefit you in the end.
but okay, lets do this...
I'll show how rapidly we can run out of ground, Beeno, and demonstrate how I've offered you far more leeway than I have ever offered Mozart.
"Bye the way defending what you believe is correct and debunking nonsense is the way to go! "
Okay...
You claim to "KNOW" the universe is a creation...created by the God YOU believe in.
Tell me how you KNOW this.
I'll warn you beforehand that in the discussion to follow, I will allow you none of the reprieve that I have previously.
Here we go...
No we don’t need people worshipping Rassie but equally we don’t need people making a fool of themselves trying to paint the picture that Rassie is poor that we won the WC thanks to luck or the ignorance that it was down to Pollard and nothing else
That’s the mentality of a 5 year old
But hey each to their own - we have history on here - we know Moz will continue to embarrass himself, while Doos - well we don’t really give a shit about what becomes of him
I’m guessing his absence is down to his pet budgie passing away this time
Poor ou Plumster stumbling and bumbling along. Now he says we are worshiping Rassie. Such a load of nonsense. We have simply defended Rassie against one scurrilous attack by Mozzie and his doos over a period of years. And guess what we were proven correct.
We told Mozzie he was hopelessly wrong about Du Toit and we were of course right. For a supposedly smart man mozzzie has been a disaster.
Mozzz is actually not that smart. He gets caught out again and again as you must have noticed. He has been schooled by Mike who has simply demolished poor mozzzie. Left Mozzzz is in tatters. Hahahahahahahahahaha
So here is just one simply proof that for some reason has escaped you Plumster. Science currently is telling us once there was nothing. There was thena big bang and now we have the Universe. So if there was always nothing how can there be something here now. ONLY SOME THING ETERNAL EXPLAINS WHY SOMETHING EXISTS TODAY.
Science has in fact proved God. As has the human genome.
By the way Plumster don't flatter yourself I don't want or need any leeway from you or anybody else.
As for entertaining my ideas or anybody else's ideas by all means consider them but if you don't agree have the honesty to say so. Leave the devious games to that old deceiver Mozzzie.
Don’t worry Rassie has luck on his side - plenty of luck in fact
The luck to originally take us from 7 to 1
Luck to win the RC
Luck to win the Lions series
Luck to win the 2019 WC
Luck to win coach of the year
Luck to win the 2023 WC
Luck to take us to number 1 currently
In effect we don’t need an astute rugby coach we just need a very, very lucky one
Luckily we have a lucky coach
Dave Rassie's record has been fantastic. Mozzzie's campaign to devalue the Boks RWC win as a means of devaluing Rassie has failed dismally. That list of yours blows up all their nonsense.
Pity to see Plumster going down the tubes as a poster. Will he recover his sanity one wonders.
Ok, Beeno, lets have a look at some of the problems with your statement...
"So here is just one simply proof that for some reason has escaped you Plumster. Science currently is telling us once there was nothing. There was thena big bang and now we have the Universe. So if there was always nothing how can there be something here now. ONLY SOME THING ETERNAL EXPLAINS WHY SOMETHING EXISTS TODAY."
1) You assume that your mind should be capable of understanding the origin of the universe. Science MUST be able to explain it to you and if it can't then a God must have created it. So before human beings could fly in the sky, as we now know we can, were people saying that since the smartest minds of the time could not explain how humans can fly, that only God can fly in the sky?
2) Science does not state that there was 'nothing' before the big bang. Maybe some scinetists do, but that is not the general position of "science". If you bothered to read scientific papers on the matter you will find that a) science admits it doesn't now know what led to the big bang, b) there may be many big bangs occurring within a much more vast universe than we currently believe the universe to be and c) there may have been different universes before this universe.
3) Assuming the universe is a creation, you have ZERO evidence of the fact that the Judeo-Christian God is its creator. There are countless religions far older than yours, and often with far more sensible explanations, which describe the creation of the universe by the hands of a singular or a plural collection of Gods.
4) Your assumption that I believe the universe to have sprung about from nothing is a) a misrepresentation, since I have never said that, because I do not believe it to be true and b) a refuge often made use of by people in your position and more of a strawman argument than anything else.
So, of the very many explanations and ideas out there for how the universe may have come about, and because humans have a very limited, often primitive, understanding of reality, are you really qualified to come on here and preach your specific beliefs to people when you are one of those people? And then to look down upon, and put words in the mouths of people that may have a different view to yours?
Here, let me prove it to you...
Without Googling it, tell me how many laws of thermodynamics there are and what they are.
See, I don't think you can. I'm also of the opinion that you know as little as everyone else here about physics and are likely unable to write down a single meaningful equation related to reality.
Now, that's fine...no harm in not being a physicist.
But one does wonder, when you know so little about the nature of reality, what qualifies you to opine on what reality is and what made it?
Many very smart people have devoted their lives to understanding these things. Many of them have peeled back layers and given us a far greater understanding of the world than we previously had. They did exactly what religion tells them to do...to work hard, to help themselves and seek understanding, and to be unshaken in their devotion to truth.
And the religious zealots, how do they treat these people?
Oh, that's right, they call them fools, idiots, Satan worshippers and and and...
Criticism is not a bad thing….it helps mostly what you yourself can’t see, that enables positive change…..No one is saying Rassie is completely useless, but let’s face it he is not a master Backline smith….especially with the likes of stick that has failed to add something special….what I am saying is just add a better attack coach….use our possession better in running more ball in hand, instead of forming rucks mostly….Ja Rassie has luck, what happens when the luck runs out? Don’t want to speak for other posters, but by reading there posts, it seems all they want is to add more to the Bok arsenal…Adding to the already existing good things….so in the end, we all want the same thing, some are just more critical…which is not a bad thing….Deus was sometimes over negative, but when game day came, he was behind the boks 100%….also in RWC in some post, reaching out to you Dave….In saying let’s put our differences aside and hope the boks win…and in most of those games he called that Boks will win…just chill on all this Fanatical aggression, it’s negative and very strenuous….
Exactly, M!
Actually I’m planning to reread the Gospel according to Matthew. It’s the most comprehensive of the gospels and it’s been a while. In the meantime I have read countless books about Roman and Greek mythology.
Why not reread the work that literally gave us our moral code and legal sensibilities? It’s not a long read, some 50 pages. It might be an interesting mini book club project if any other posters are willing to set aside an hour or two.
So Harrassmiss who has become Eluckmiss.. what’s the my take. Firstly he was crucial for Bok success. He took us back to our rugby roots and restored belief in the Bok players. It took a Springbok to discard the expansionist doctrine that was pervasive in the press. We had to play like the All Blacks to be successful. Many on here, who are now big Erasmus fans were all in on this view.
The answer was the opposite, we had to go back to what we did well….sometimes as long ago as the eighties eg scrumming which was a lost art. Get that platform right and we could compete with any team. Harrassmiss saw that and doubled down on that.
But Bok rugby was never only about that. We had great backlines in 1938, 1955, 1960, 1968 and throughout the Danie Gerber era. And we have incredibly fine backs today. To see instead Faf, who had a brilliant break when young, hoisting box kick after box kick…ignored that whole other dimension.
That style makes every match an arm wrestle….and the knockouts were the ultimate arm wrestle…..they could instead have been Twickenham in August. We wasted Esterhozen, Willemse, Kolbe and Arendse.
It’s obvious to every thinking person we were very lucky to get through three one point games. Rather than a sure route to success our tactics brought teams like England into the game.
So I think Erasmus was right initially, but our team has only played to its full potential once….the WC2019 final.
As for the culture, not competing in 2020 was not in the spirit of the game…..and refgate reduced the Lions tour to an ugly controversy. Both unnecessary and reflecting poorly on South African sportsmanship which has always been something to admire.
So I see a talented but limited man, who has been fabulously successful….but hasn’t grown our game. Our tactics are 50 years old and our players are 31 years old.
Bullshit Moz the majority of people are not stupid enough to believe that games are won by an individual kicking for poles thereby discounting everything else that took place in the 80 min by 23 players
The majority of the people are told what to believe
So the majority of people discount the fact that the game is played by 15 players over an 80 min period and in order to get those kicks, tries need to be scored, penalties, scrums, line outs won, tackles made, defenders beaten……….
People are told to believe the above, it’s not a reality of every game? Wow I’ve learnt something
Thanks Moz :)
All that great play got us to the point where Pollard had to make every kick to win the WC. It never got us into position where he could even miss one kick. You keep thinking all those scrums, lineouts and tackles created a winning scenario….nope our opponents matched that. What they didn’t match was the goal kicking.
Oh my word poor plumster doesn't even know that scientific consensus is that once there was nothing and now there is something. He does suggest scientist don't know why there is something given there was nothing. Hahahahaha.
The other scientuc consensus today is that matter is not ertenal. It once didn't exist neither did soace or time. Science changed its stance on this one and I stunned poor Rooitwit by pointing this out.
You are obviously a beginner on the subject. Keep an open mind and you will be in for a great surprise. God exists and always had. The Bible knew a this long before science caught up on tbe issue. Hahahaha.
Steven Hawkins infamously said that because of the law of gravity (where did that law come from) the Universe would create itself out of nothing.
Einstein said nonsense is nonsense no matter how brilliant the mind that expresses it.
No Plumster nothing can't create a damn thing. Only liars and loons think that.
So the biblical explanation of an eternal being creating the Universe is far more plausible than nothing creating the universe.
Logic tells us clearly nothing can't create anything. All science has done is told us there was once nothing and now there is something. Science has thus inadvertently proved there is an eternal being who created everything.
The fact God may have created multiple universes is of no relemance to the debate. It is in any event pure speculation.
You lamely try to suggest even if God exists he may not be the God of the Bible. Hahahahahahaha. Hilarious stuff from the Plumster.
The eternal bring who created this stupendous Universe is a being of amazing Intelligence power and wisdom. Just like He is described in the Bible. Jesus took a few loaves and fishes and fed the 5,000 and there were baskets left over. Jesus created all this out of nothing. Sounds like the God who created everything to me.
However the main point at this stage was to prove that there was a God and this has been successfully achieved.
The argument here is not about the God of the gaps. Ie if we don't know something we say it is God who did it. The appeal here is to pure logic. Nothing can't create anything.
Plumster if you think the human mind is incapable of having any understandungvif how the Universe formed then what are you arguing about. Best be quiet as you have no clue. You clearly struggle with simple logic that nobody has been able to break. A universe cannot create itself out of nothing etc.
So how did a Universe arise out of nothing Plumster. How did it all happen without God being involved.
How did the human genome get written using a 4 character alphabet and forming the longest word in history of over 3 bkion character.
Each DNA stand having some 360 VOLUMES of encyclopedia Brittanica worth of INFORMATION. Information doesn't happen randomly. Hence world leading atheist Antony Flu coming to a belief in God and saying it was the INFORMATION in nature that led him to God.
Science has been very busy proving the existence of God. The Bible says the heavens declare the glory of God.
By the way Plumster you talk about my views apart from the Bible I have the work of scientists as a reference.
The biological scientists has done a amazing job of showing the incredible creation of life by God.
Trying to make out these are only my views is pure nonsense.
The second law of thermo dynamics states everything is in a state of DECAY. ie the Universe has an ending. Any thing that has an ending is not eternal and has a beginning.
This law once again is a proof of an eternal God.
Nah, I'll be quiet when I want to and talk when I want to, thanks.
You have espoused the false narrative that science believes the universe to have come about from nothing.
You say that because it's what you've seen YouTube videos and read on creationist websites.
But the simple fact is that it is NOT TRUE. That is NOT the position of science. That is a creationist straw man argument, nothing more.
Now, you're always talking about truth and justice.
So let's test your zeal. Go and do some actual research. It's very easy these days and you can even enlist the help of Bard AI to quickly find prominent scientific papers on the matter...
Here, I will ask ChatGPT on your behalf...
Question - "Does the Big Bang theory assume or state that the universe came about from nothing?"
ChatGPT - "No, the Big Bang theory does not assume the universe came about from nothing. It describes the rapid expansion from a hot, dense state, but does not specifically address what preceded this state or how it came into existence."
Okay...I can save you some time and tell you that ChatGPT is 100% correct in its summary.
So what now?
Is really me that doesn't know what I'm talking about?
But more importantly, do you actually believe that The Big Bang theory claims that the universe popped into existence from nothing?
You seem to believe that IE it is your view.
Let's deal with this "nothing" idea of yours first, put it to bed, and then we can move on to the next supposed claims for creationism.
Let's see how long are able to remain civil in this discourse.
I'm guessing, much like the second law of thermodynamics, this conversation will decay over time, as we slowly shoot the Judeo-Christian view of the universe down.
But, as I said, let's start with the strawman "nothing" topic first.
Power speaks about Rassie being lucky. He doesn't mention that Rassie had key players out. The world's best hooker for a starter and a turnover king. We saw what Kwagga's turnover ment. Marx was a collosal loss. Also very solid when throwing in and very powerful scrummager. This absence ment Bongi could not be in the bomb squad.
Then we had Lood out. Lood is a fine lock and a master at the lineouts. He was a big loss.
Two of your Frontline tight 5 gone.
We missed Pollard in the opening games. We would have beaten Ireland had Pollard played.
We missed the silky skills of Am. A fully fit Am is probly the best outside center in the game. Very creative.
We would not have been talking about 1 point wins had Marx, Lood and Am been fully fit and available. We would certainly have gone through UNBEATON.
The big point and one which the increasingly servile gimp Plumster refuses to acknowledge is that Mozzzie has been smearing Rassie for close on a decade. It has been unrelenting. He pretends to be objective by his bias shines through.
Happily poor mozzzue has utterly failed. Rassie now has 2 World Cup win and a battery of other achievements.
So congrats to all who were not conned by the con artist Mozzie!
Lomp was no loss….Mostert is far better. Am could have been a loss if Eluckmiss was willing to pass the ball….in the defensive game we played, Kriel was better suited, Marx was a loss, but we all know he would have played for 20 mins.
In the Anglican religion one of the prayers ends with ‘world without end….amen’. A hard concept to grasp, but a more optimistic one than Revelations.
Even more difficult is the idea of ‘world without a beginning’. Existence always existed, that’s the central fact. How it evolved into producing our world can partially be explained by science, but only with considerable speculation and after a point in time where existence was infinitely old.
We can be sure the world is not just a few thousand years old. The missing time between creation and the birth of Christ as described in the Bible is not even a debate.
What’s more interesting is whether Christ at any time endorsed that Old Testament view. Something I will be looking for when I reread Matthew.
The standard religious tactic when challenged is to call such questions a ‘sin’ with unclear but radical punishment. That’s in every religion. Don’t allow questions. But if you follow the creationist logic, we were given enquiring minds. We needed them for survival.
As time goes by our increasing capabilities may shed further light on some questions….but a million years from now we still won’t have solved ‘world without a beginning’.
Bullshit Moz they did match that we scored more tries than most of our opponents, dominated more scrums leading to penalties etc
You are speaking shit
So if our opponents kicked all their penalties…..like Pollard did….France would have won and the ABs would have won. I’m afraid you just can’t grasp this simple logic. We won because we had the more accurate kicker, not because our team created more opportunities.
Yes Rassie does have luck….to win three knockout games in row with 1 point, you do need the Rub of the green or a 50/50 Reff call your way….that is called luck….what Moz is saying is very simple, create more opportunities so you don’t have to rely so much on the Element of luck….this is not bashing or bad mouthing, it’s logical.
...not if you're in the Cult of Rassie.
Then it's not logical at all.
What the old deceiver is saying is consistent with what he has tried to do for almost a decade. Devalue Rassie. That is the real purpose of all his whining about the Bok RWC triumph.
All the loon sees is luck and Pollard. Poor Mozzzietard has become a laughing stock. His side kick had more self awareness an realised the jig was up and left. Mozzzietard has such a big ego he thinks people are going to accept his drivel. 
As Dave has said, this was the toughest path to a RWC and luck and a good goal kicker would NEVER have been enough without numerous other factors coming into play.
Anybody not realizing that Lood is a world class lineout forward simply has no clue whatsoever. Mostert is not in the same class.
In the semi final and final it was raining. These conditions have never suited a Bok side. We are not good wet weather players which is understandable given our climate. Some oaks with short memories forget what happened in the tests preceding the semis and finals and just how good the Bok attack was.
This Bok side overcame all obstacles. They never chocked, their courage and determination was second to NONE. They never conceded defeat. That great Pieter Steph Du Toit, a forward despised by mozzietard, epitomised what this team was about.
What Mozzzietard has tried to do is play down or ignore the Bok strengths apart from Pollard. To this disgraceful fake Bok supporter its was all luck and Pollard. Man what a joke Mozzzietard has become!
Away with the mozzzietard. Go and support the wee abs turncoat!
You miss the point HasBeen, I don’t care what you or anybody else thinks.
Your points:
1 It was a tough path to the WC final. But we lost to Ireland and played NZ down a man.
2 Lood is a world class lineout forward…nope…pretty average. His loss made no difference in 2019 and it made no difference in 2023. In 2015 he was splattered by Kaino for a crucial try in a close game:
Lood de Jager 6
Brushed off by Jerome Kaino for New Zealand’s sixth minute try – not what you expect from an 18st13lb lock.
3 It was raining in the semis…..it was a light drizzle…perfectly playable conditions.
4 The Boks never conceded defeat….fair point, we had a lot of veterans.
5 Dud Toit epitomized what the teams about…yep tackling. Lots of hot air about his tackles in the final….Mostert made the same number of tackles per minute played, and unlike Dud missed none. But he had a good if narrow game.
7 To this disgraceful Bok supporter it was all luck and Pollard. Nope there were lots of contributions by Eben, Fourie, Kwagga etc. But our opponents had similar contributions by Telea, Aaron Smith and Savea…..the difference was the card(luck) and Pollard.
The jackass goes down again!
Oh what utter shit that the difference was Pollard fuck sake only an utter fool would conclude a game was down to one individual and that everything that happens for 80 min or the input of our awesome coach counts for nothing beating France, England and NZ to win the WC get a fucking grip
It was a bloody awesome achievement by a great side directed by the best coach we have ever had - fact
As for Lood we missed him big time he is twice the lock useless powder puff Mostert is. Had Lood been fit we would have had Lood starting with RG on the bench - two real locks instead of one pretender who runs around making process tackles all game and adding zero physical productivity
As Matfield said - Lood is the best 5 in the game - he should know
Oh and by the way the opposition missing kicks is no different to Kolisi not making a simple pass to put his man away for a try
14 men vs a Bok side down to 14 men for 20 min and no hooker for 78min
ABs down for 50 minutes on the red/yellow and 10 more minutes for Frizell at the start. The Boks down for 10 minutes on the Kolisi,,,,should have been a red…tackle, and the Kolbe yellow.
Net time the ABs were down a man 40minutes. Handicap 2.5 points per 10 minutes. The ABs had a 10 point handicap.
Zero handicap for Fourie…..that was Eluckmiss’ choice, he clearly thought Fourie added more than a replacement hooker.
And yes Kolisi botched the pass, but there were plenty of general play screw ups….they all amounted to a stalemate and the game was decided by Pollard’s superior boot.
Up a man for the whole half we should have torched the ABs but Harrassmiss’ risk averse tactics have created a team that is more comfortable defending than attacking.
The game was won by Pollard, but almost lost through a series of selection and tactical decisions made by your hero. I have seen hero worship before, but nothing as blind as this. Why would you want to be a groupie….admit it, Dud Allende was a mistake, box kick everything was a mistake, the bench was a mistake.
Now lets get the situation discussed above into perspective.
First of all lets deal with Doos. He had been on site for many years and must hae used at least 12 user names in that period. Unfortunately he will be back to cntiinue his BS on site. It will be easy to identiy him. Just imply Meyer was a bad coach and he will scream BS on site.
Mozart is another complte idiot.. When it was announced that Erasmus were appointed as Director of Rugby and that he will handle the duties of both that position and coaching of the Springbok team until the world cup Mozart came up with a classic on site. He said that the appointment of Rrasmus would turn out to be a disaser and that it would have been better to retain Coetzee as Head Coach.
The attacks on Erasmus started in 2015 whe h as thouh to be a replacment for the disastrous Meyer - but got really venomous as from 2018. Initially he lied about Erasmus' caeer in the coaching field and did not even bother to check whether his statents on site was true.
That issue went on through 2018 and 2018, despite the S pinmgboks won the 2019 RC. Mozart's attack on Erasmus was started afresh when the Springboks beat the Welsh in the semi. However for about a week after the final it was announced that a new head coiach would be appointed to take over the coaching fuctions. Mozart screamed about Erasmus; inability to take responsibility for anything. The fact that Erasmus was never appointed as Had Coach and did the coaching on an iterim basis never entered his mind. There were two other conditions contained in his contract of appointment and those were
* that the selecion committee system is to be abolished and selection would be done by the Director of Rugby and the coaches invovled;
* that SARU would deal with appointment of ciach es based on Erasmus' recomendation.
Mozart then went bananas about the second cndition mentioned and claimed that it did not exist - but that Erasmus was a coward refusing to take responsibility for anyhing.
That waqs followed by his "Chicken story about non-participation of the Springboks in the 2020 RC due to the Covid issue. That dxecision was taken by the SARU Board and not Erasmus and wa based on a variety of factors.
That was followed by his constant jeremediats about how SA will be out fo the WC without reaching the play-offs, When that did not happen he changed his tactics and claimed that the only reaon why the Springbosk won the WC in 2023 was because Pollard converted four panalties and the AB's should have won the match and the reasomn he used was the red cart.
So far there is no news about the Appointment .of the New Head Coach - but one thing is for sure - if the new Head coach succeed - Mozart would claim that it happened despite of Erasmus. If he failed it Mozart will claim ithat it is s the result of having Eraasmus being around.
It is now near to 6 years of constantly atatcking Erasmus based on lies and prejudice.- so on should realize we are dedaling here with a total prejudiced rugby idiot. . .
Bullshit the game was not won by Pollard it was was won by the 23 and our brilliant coach
We were down to 14 men for 20 min of the game - fact
Having no specialist hooker and the fact that it was raining meant we could not press home the numerical advantage - fact
The fact that the AB’s missed a kick or two is no different to scoring opportunities like the non Kolisi pass not being taken. Rugby is full of if and buts but it’s won by 23 players over a period of 80 min being directed by a brilliant coach
Our win is made that much more remarkable by virtue of the fact that we had to beat France, England and NZ to achieve it.
Fucking awesome performance by a great side directed by the best coach the Boks have ever had
50+10-10-10 =40 if you can’t be sure just looking at it, use a calculator.
NZ had 14 men for longer than the Boks did, that has never been disputed
But given we had no hooker we were unable to press home the numerical advantage in the set pieces coupled with the fact it was raining
If you can’t see that you don’t know the game
But despite the hooker handicap our astute coach was savvy enough to work out that Fourie’s contributions in general play outweighed his failings in the set pieces - therein lies the genius of Rassie
We all would have selected a specialist hooker on the bench
Genius, pure genius……choose a sub hooker who nullifies our lineout advantage. Nonsense of course, our maul never worked against England or France or Ireland either. We never scored one maul try in a key game at the WC. Even against Scotland with Marx playing.
Kapow! Up goes another bullshit argument in a puff of smoke.
We scored more tries than England and France, we had no specialist hooker in the final but still won
You don’t beat France, England then NZ in the greatest challenge in the game with a coach who does not know his stuff
To imply the opposite smacks of utter rugby ignorance.
The problem here is, this is not a rugby thing for you it’s pathetically personal. You don’t like Rassie - I’m actually not sure why exactly but the joke is you like Jake who let’s face it is a complete prick or so the players say
You are a strange one Moz
But we all know how great Rassie is. The country knows it, world rugby knows it
Just read an article where Reinach says Rassie is the greatest coach the Boks have ever had and he is so pleased he is staying involved
Apparently the Boks are in good hands
...it's easier to hate...
No grounds for that hate at all
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What a match. Hope ou Doos gets to see this!
Hey Doos all is forgiven, your brand of entertainment is missed. Hahahahahahahahaha