Oops we have DA and PSDT on that list
They must be shit
Oops we have DA and PSDT on that list
They must be shit
5 out of the top 20, not bad.
Marx should also be included in this list.
Kwagga is perhaps the best impact player in the world, but not a starter.
Fuck Shark you are beyond rugby clueless
Frans Malherbe was in the shape of his life this last WC and he was the unsung hero of the Bok side
Easily the best tighthead in the game
Marx is not on that list as he has been injured for ages
The top 20 rugby players in the world….which doesn’t include flankers who can’t fetch or beat a tackle and centers who can’t think
https://www.ruck.co.uk/the-20-best-rugby-players-in-the-world-have-been-ranked-finn-russell-19th/
The fact that they make some lists tells us all we need to know about your ignorant takes on these two
Marx isn't just the best hooker in the world, he's probably one of the best players overall.
DDA only makes lists written by people that don't actually watch him play(please use this statement to rank me on the list below).
But let's do another list and start on this thread...
Shark - clueless Mozart - ignorant Plum -
No Buttplug you are not ignorant don’t kid yourself you are fucking stupid
The fact that DA makes a list of the top 20 proves just how fucking stupid you are
Poor players don’t make top 20 lists or the side of the year in 2023 but hey ho - once stupid always fucking stupid
Just opinion….the same way humans were once convinced there were fairies in the gardens. The stats say Dud Allende is one of the lowest producing incumbent centers ever in terms of:
Clean breaks
Metres gained per run
Offloads
Tries
Try assists.
His tractoring 99% of the time produces nothing, you might as well give the ball to a good forward runner, which excludes Dud Toit, whose only contribution is tackling.
Those are the facts not the fairy tales you believe Dave.
Bullshit he is the most effective 12 in taking it up, the primary role of a modern day test 12 and had the most dominant tackles
The lad is a class act playing to a pattern that wins competitions
Taking the ball up for a meter or two….what good does that do.
It’s the standard, it sets up the next phase, no different to Eben taking it up
The stats for current test 12’s does not see them beating loads of defenders or making clean breaks - it’s simply not the reality of test rugby
You lot just don’t get the significance of his role all you see is tractoring
But best of all is that all the other 12’s are doing the same, he is just doing it better than them because he is stronger
The only real standout 12 this past year has been Aki but let’s face it he has done fuck all previous to this.
You lot are devoid of reality - you still want to see 12’s attacking space, ripping defences apart - it’s not 2010
The other 12s offload…both Kerevi and Aki get their support into space. Dud just dies with the ball. They create he procrastinates.
Very few offloads from Aki he bashes his way over the advantage line. It’s been some time since Kerevi did anything of significance
Aki has had a purple patch, he was insignificant before that
DA has been the most consistent over the years it’s why he always finds himself starting
No he does not die with the ball he sets up the next phase
So after 10 Dud Allende like phases we have gained 15 metres and given the opposing fetchers 10 opportunities to steal the ball…great.
Oh wow if that was the case DA would have been dropped years ago
Keep it real Moz
My vote's definitely with most of the ruck.co.uk list .......... btw Aaron Smith retired after RWC.
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10. Levani Botia (Fiji) 9. Aaron Smith (New Zealand) 8. Charles Ollivon (France) 7. Damian Penaud (France) 6. Will Jordan (New Zealand) 5. Bundee Aki (Ireland) 4. Pieter-Steph du Toit (South Africa) 3. Antoine Dupont (France) 2. Eben Etzebeth (South Africa) 1. Ardie Savea (New Zealand)
And if you want to have a look further down their list, here’s 11-20
20. Frans Malherbe (South Africa) 19. Damian de Allende (South Africa) 18. Finn Russell (Scotland) 17. Cheslin Kolbe (South Africa) 16. Gregory Alldritt (France) 15. Richie Mo’unga (New Zealand) 14. Marcos Kremer (Argentina) 13. Dan Sheehan (Ireland) 12. Hugo Keenan (Ireland) 11. Scott Barrett (New Zealand)