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Sep 05, 2024, 21:30

Of all the springboks that have come and gone, many have been underrated by Bok supporters.

However one that was constantly overrated is former captain Jean de Villiers.

The Boks were never consistent under his captaincy and to be honest, he was better on the wing than he was at 12 or 13.\


Sorry okes, I just never rated him.

Sep 05, 2024, 21:38

He was OK Chips, not great...his forward pass took us out of 2011...harsh, yes a Moz move ..and he shouldn't have been in the 2015 team ahead of Damian...but still a great servant of the Bokke.

Sep 05, 2024, 21:43

I rated Jean highly but de Allende is better

Sep 05, 2024, 21:50

Actually Jean broke the line and floated a long pass out to Lambie. He never blew an opportunity, he created the opportunity. As for it being forward if it was a shorter pass they never would have called it….it looked like natural drift.


Jean was far, far superior to the clueless robot we have had at 12 for far too long.

Sep 05, 2024, 22:08

No chance de Allende is better and had more impact for the Boks

Just like Fourie was great but Am is better

Sep 06, 2024, 03:14

If I'm not mistaken he was flat on his back when making that forward pass but it was forward for sure, always believed he suffered average hands the pass cost the Boks a semi final spot.

Sep 06, 2024, 07:25

There was so much hype around him.

Look he wasn’t a shit player.

But just plain average.

Our backline barely ever excelled when he was at 12.

Sep 06, 2024, 07:50

I liked Jean, prefered him over Meisiekind, but he wasn't ready to come back for the 2015 RWC...and DdA played good rugga for the Stormers back then.

Sep 06, 2024, 08:06

Jean's biggest weakness was his penchant for ill timed defensive rushes that opened up gaps for the opposition. But other than that you can't even begin to compare his skillset and ability to read play with that of DDA - it's not even a contest. Jean wins by a mile.

Not to forget that Jean played in the era when both the All Blacks and Australia were still powerhouses.

Sep 06, 2024, 08:22

If we ever see DDA running a support line like Jean does at 2:53, then maybe we can talk. But he doesn't. He would have been jogging somewhere around the halfway line in that move.


Sep 06, 2024, 08:38

I liked Jean, prefered him over Meisiekind, but he wasn't ready to come back for the 2015 RWC

Yes, he stuck around a season too long, which may have somewhat tarnished people's memory of him. He should probably have retired at the end of 2013.

Sep 06, 2024, 09:00

DA’s highlights footage is far more impressive than Jeans showing a better player without doubt

Jean was great at reading potential intercept opportunities that’s it

He was never agile, not the most athletic guy out there

Sep 06, 2024, 17:05

Watching that clip, I feel that Brent Russell deserved a lot more tests that he got.

Fok he was something else.

Sep 06, 2024, 20:21

Yeah he was special

Sep 06, 2024, 23:30

Saf didn’t you play with him at school?

Sep 07, 2024, 00:34

Dud Allende 83 tests/11 tries

JdV 109 tests/ 27 tries

And I guarantee you the try assists would be even more  in JdV’s favor. A giant of the game vs a tractor. 

Sep 07, 2024, 05:21

Moz, tonight's game, you watching or is it alweer Gerhard Viviers ?

Sep 07, 2024, 07:36

No Chip that was Hennie le Roux

Sep 07, 2024, 15:25

Back home Blob….thanks for the good steer last week. I wouldn’t say he was Gerhard but a lot better than reading the Telegraph play by play.

Sep 07, 2024, 18:10

Saf There were rumours abound that he is homosexual.

Did you experience any of that with him!

Sep 07, 2024, 18:34

:'(


Sep 07, 2024, 18:37

ouDawie's watching the game on Tuesday.

Sep 07, 2024, 21:11

Well he is married with children so you might be misinformed Chip - not for the first time of course

Maybe you should hang out with a different crowd?

Sep 07, 2024, 21:37

I’ll never leave you and your mum, my boy.

You’ll never ever be left on the streets again.

Sep 07, 2024, 21:44

Dave will never walk alone?

 
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