Wayne Barnes World Cup final: Referee cops abuse from All Blacks fans for crucial call in favour of Springboks

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Oct 31, 2023, 04:04

Wayne Barnes is receiving death threats for how he officiated the Rugby World Cup final won 12-11 by South Africa, and there is one moment causing a lot of fuss among All Blacks fans.

All Blacks supporters are claiming that Barnes apologised to stand-in skipper Ardie Savea for getting a decision wrong, but still allowed the Springboks to kick a three-pointer.

A close analysis of video from that moment in the match clarifies the situation and what was actually said.

In the 17th minute, South African No. 8 Duane Vermeulen carries the ball into a tackle, with Tyrel Lomax making the first hit. As the big Bok goes to ground, Savea makes the second tackle and moves quickly to steal the ball. Vermeulen holds on and Barnes penalises Savea – the tackler is meant to let go of the opponent before moving in to steal the ball.

As Handre Pollard lines up to shoot the penalty, Savea queries Barnes about the call. Only one side of the conversation is captured on the referee’s microphone. Savea is thought to be drawing the referee’s attention to a replay of the incident on the big screen.

Barnes replies: “Sorry, mate, I didn’t see the replay. I thought you stayed on him. I didn’t see you come off enough.”

Barnes is clear about his reasons for giving the penalty – he believes Savea did not break away enough before grabbing the ball. Rather than the referee admitting guilt, the use of the word “sorry” seems to be Barnes politely saying he didn’t see the replay. Or it could be he was politely acknowledging to Savea that his own interpretation was different from that of the All Blacks No 8.

Sky commentator Grant Nisbett is the first to misunderstand the comment.

“Bit of a tough call in a World Cup final, to concede a mistake,” says the veteran broadcaster.

In the World Rugby laws, Section 14.5 says:

  • Tacklers must immediately release the ball and ball carrier after both players go to the ground;
  • Immediately move away from the tackled player and from the ball to get up;
  • Be on their feet before attempting to play the ball;
  • Allow the tackled player to release or play the ball;
  • Allow the tackled player to move away from the ball;
  • Sanction is a penalty for failing to do so.

  • https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/wayne-barnes-world-cup-final-referee-cops-abuse-from-all-blacks-fans-for-crucial-call-in-favour-of-springboks/JL5JXTHV4RBOFNB4GAL4JUJRYA/

Oct 31, 2023, 04:58

To think we have all this technology, TMOs in front of a stack of monitors with super slo mo sticking their fingers in the pie time and again, three officials on the field and if anything there is more controversy and discontent than ever. 

Sometimes it's just the fans being stupid, like this one, but other times it feels like the game is over regulated and there's too much babysitting going on to no positive effect.

Oct 31, 2023, 05:26

I get it, I'd probably complain to if I were a Kiwi.

But you know, after this WC I have a brand new, freshly polished, and robust hatred for the French.

What a low class bunch of tossers.

No matter how passionate Bok or AB fans are, we would simply never carry on like they did for the remainder of the WC after the Boks beat them.

Oct 31, 2023, 05:34

I viewed with the NZ commentary team & remember having a wtf. moment hearing the commentator talking about the ref admitting to Savea about making a mistake.

Nov 02, 2023, 10:52

Blobbok you won. End of story. Enjoy your win.

Nov 02, 2023, 13:48

Unfortunately for you guys Hakwa ou Blobbrain now lives in NZ and is one of yours. Okay we are not sending you our best I have no choice but to admit but you cant entirely blame us as you really need to scrutinize more carefully who you let in! 

Worse news for you Hakwa is that Bobbie is becoming a full on Ab supporter. A relief of course to us and a burden for you guys. Unhinged guys like Blobbrain are an embarrassment! At a minimum ban the mong from attending rugby games. 

Beeno just giving his nz buddy some friendly advice! Limit the damage I say!

Nov 02, 2023, 15:18

Siesman Beenz! Blob is a solid Bok and WP supporter...always has been...and he had your back in the past, more than you know...don't let politics get in the way of that...too late I know...geen salf meer te smeer...

Nov 02, 2023, 15:28

Hi Mike!

Nov 02, 2023, 15:31

Barnes has announced his retirement.

Thanks.


Nov 02, 2023, 20:03

He is 44, so perhaps the trolls got him. 

Nov 02, 2023, 20:55

Sadly there are always fans who don’t know how to accept defeat. All teams know there is a margin for error in sport & you have to score enough points to take the risk of a ref’s mistake being critical. We didn't manage to do that.

Nov 02, 2023, 21:04

If you are in the public eye, it is probably best to be able to pause your social media accounts at certain times- as this is probably how most of the trolls are getting to them. In a few months, everyone will have forgotten or found someone new to troll.


Nov 02, 2023, 21:45

He was always going to retire after the RWC. 

Nov 03, 2023, 12:18

Thankfully.

 
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