Match fixing 
Match fixing
But NZ played with 14 men, now if they had played with 11 I’d say we were part of a video game.
NZ played with 14 men for a half, the Boks played with 14 men for 20min and without a hooker for 78min and the game was played in the rain
Wrong again NZ played with 14 men for 53 minutes….the Kolisi yellow card was evened up by the Frizell yellow. Which actually makes the handicap 13 points.
Fourie was on there because the genius coach thought that was the best option. Don’t argue with the genius.
Come on chaps, it’s Christmas. Time to give this up !! 
You know we can’t becs…in any case Dave is on the ropes, my last post finally has him cornered.
There is no such thing as a points handicap it’s a load of shit.
It’s a fact that the Boks were down to 14 men for 20 min including the vital final 10 min
Not having a specialist hooker negated our ability to enforce the dominance we should have had in the set pieces thanks to the loss of Cane and the rain prevented any possibility of enforcing the advantage out wide
Given these facts, the numerical advantage the Boks had, counted for absolutely nothing
The genius that is Rassie has us win that game because he believed that Fourie’s contribution outside of the set pieces would still trump the Kiwi’s and guess what - that is exactly what happen
Us less mortals would have had a specialist hooker on the bench - not Rassie as he sees things differently and therein lies his genius
Rassie is always a step ahead and deep down you know it but you are too proud to admit it. We know it though as we know you are not stupid
I tried !! 
The same ropes Ali used :)
Dave’s posts are getting longer and longer….now he’s calling himself a lesser mortal. Has the lad got hold of the Lilly diet?
Mozart posts became boring due to repeating the same Story continuously. He still continues with hsi statenebts that the Springboks did nt deseve to win in the 2023 and that Ersumius si destgroying S A Rugby . In the cas he wrote two posts mildly cricitcal of Meyer and Coetzee - since Erasmus became cSA Dirctor of Rugby his atatcks on Erasmus must have exceded a thousand posts. that is why it bcame boring and rptaive. . .
I can't believe you guys still fall for all the trolling....
Moz is taking the piss with you guys.... and he seems to win on a daily basis
DA Moz has been against Rassie since his Free State coaching days.
He has kept up a never ending smear campaign. Unfortunately for the half baked loon the more he tried to smear Rassie the more it backfired on him.
Now he is still doggedly trying to trash s coach that has TWO RWC wins.
Face facts Mozzie and Doos have made monumental clowns of themselves. Doos actually has more self awareness than Mozzie and realised what a clown he made of himself and buzzed off
Mozzie has too big an ego to admit defeat. He thinks he is so smart that he can talk his way out of this debacle. But no chance of that. The guy is today a joke.
I wish the clown were trolling about Rassie but he is not and the same goes for a host of issue where he simply tows the treasonous, deadly Globalist line.
Mozzie is a Globalist warmongering neocon. No laughing matter.
DA if you believe Moz is just trolling and worse still winning then you are fucking stupid
Definitely winning….as for trolling, I couldn’t possibly comment.
"DA Moz has been against Rassie since his Free State coaching days"
Yep, and he knows exactly which buttons to still push to get a response from you
"DA if you believe Moz is just trolling and worse still winning then you are fucking stupid"
The exact example of "fucking stupid" Dave, is you posting the same old long explanation ad nauseum.... about the Hooker we lost after 2 mins..... the wet weather, the red card, the yellow card.....Kolisi's missed try, how good PSDT was in the final .......yada yada yada yada yada .... especially when one can see that Mox is intentionally pulling it out of you, all the time, with this constant and deliberate trolling.....
I asked Moz a direct question a while ago, on what result he would want in a certain situation in this world cup final, and he answered it quite clearly..... he would definitely want the Boks to win the final...... so that was enough for me.... then the games started.
From then on, he has been pulling the piss out of some of you guys every single day, and you constantly bite every single time.... get worked up......get all emotional ......and just like you did here....call people fucking stupid...... yet the really stupid one is you.
DA you clearly are fucking stupid for if I am repeating my answer to Moz then what the fuck is he doing to have me needing to repeat my answer, huh????
If you really think Moz is just saying all that 14 man shit to poke the fire you really are fucking clueless
Moz means every inch of his 14 man take along with us being lucky and Pollard winning us the WC. If you don’t know that you don’t know Moz at all
DA is ignoring all that has happened. He ignores the fact that Doss was Mozzie's closest ally. Doos was even worse than Moozzie when it came to castigating Rassie viciously and saying virulently anti Bok stuff like the Boks have a soft underbelly etc.
If DA cant see the degree these two were desperate to see the Boks lose then he is indeed a halfwit.
Did Mozzie EVER rebuke Doos for his hateful rhetoric against Rassie and the Boks. I can recall him doing that and the reasons are obvious. Mozzzie became obsessed with Rassie and dreamed of Rassie and the Boks going home after the group stages.
Now poor Mozzzie is buried under a mountain of EGG. Doos has departed and if he returns it will be under another alias.
Now DA after all this says that Mozzzie is merely trolling. Good trolling needs to be smart so if this clown has been trolling ( and he hasnt) its backfired on him in a spectacular fashion.
I know Moz wanted the Boks to win he just can’t live with the fact that Rassie masterminded the triumph, therein lies Moz’s issue
Moz is a Bok supporter he just hates Rassie, the best Bok coach ever
Rassie Masterminding…
‘Okay Oakes you must maar play hard, you know the refs are against us. And whatever you do don’t try any of that passing nonsense, leave it to Faf and Pollie they have a kick for elke oomlik.
And you Oakes must maar tackle, these New Zealanders are tricky buggers. We can’t seem to maul much anymore, I need to do a tape about that to make the refs a bit fairer…haha, but dis in die toekoms. For now just don’t give away penalties
The plan is eventually we’ll get a scrum and Ox will get under those fairies and Pollie never misses. So don’t think too much, leave that to me and the other coaches.
Go out there, geniet die ding and obey orders’
Moz maybe I’ve been wrong all this time - maybe you are just stupid?
How could you of all people tell Dave?
Wow, the Dom Dutchman card...classy...and yes DA, I know that was a deliberate troll too.
How Mozzie gives himself away.
Anyhow one hopes he reforms and takes heed of the objections to his weird behavior.
"for if I am repeating my answer to Moz then what the fuck is he doing to have me needing to repeat my answer"
LMFAO ..... oh Dave, you stupid little idiot.
"What is the behavior of a troll?
Trolling is when someone posts or comments online, to "bait" people, which means deliberately provoking an argument or emotional reaction. In some cases they say things that they don't even believe, just to cause drama."
The rest was trolling ....
So, to answer your question Dave..... the above explanation is precisely why you keep repeating your responses to Moz...
You fucking idiot.
"Wow, the Dom Dutchman card...classy"
So.... you got all this from Moz's response to Dave?
Sheeesh... ok
DA the only fucking idiot here is you
Stupid and clueless
DA is being really stupid. It is very clear thst mozzzie would rather have the Boks losing the RWC than letting Rassie have any credit.
DA must be blind after all these years of Mozzie nearing Rassie at every turn not yo see the guy is obsessed with proving Rassie is a useless coach.
Mozzie's mental state deteriorates every time Rassie wins. So now here we are with Mozzzie and Doos far, far gone.
Wake up DA. Don't encourage the delusional Mozzzie.
"DA is being really stupid. It is very clear thst mozzzie would rather have the Boks losing the RWC than letting Rassie have any credit."
Well, despite what Moz continually posts to you guys, if he has openly admitted to me and everyone else on this forum, after my direct question to him...... that he would definitely want the Springboks to win this 2023 world cup, I have no reason at all to not take him at his word.
"DA the only fucking idiot here is you
Stupid and clueless"
For a guy who is supposed to be "educated" ..... you sure do display a constant high level of ignorance and utter stupidty ....
Keep telling everyone how we lost Bongi after 2 minutes..... LMAO
"DA must be blind after all these years of Mozzie nearing Rassie at every turn not yo see the guy is obsessed with proving Rassie is a useless coach"
Nah Beeno.... you are the blind one here ... your emotional side is taking over your rational thought process.
Moz's posts about Rassie are in abundance .... and it is as clear to anyone on this forum that he despises Rassie..... and that is his opinion.
I am not and never have referred to Moz's dislike for Rassie, because that is just blatantly obvious......I am talking about you believing that Moz wanted the Springboks to not win the world cup......there is a huge difference.
Nope. Mozzie was desperate for the Boks to lose. Years of smears aimed at Rassie would come back to haunt him and they did. He and Doos became the laughing stock of the board.
His only option was to somehow show that the Boks were unworthy winners.
He immediately started his nonsense. While most of us was rejoicing in the win he and Doos were livid.
It was a repeat of our RWC win in Japan only worse as more was at stake for Moz and Doos.
But Rassie won his second consequetive RWC in the toughest of circumstances, the EGG landed on Mozzie and Doos. Doos knew the gig was up and ran away.
Moz as he always does doubled down on stupid.
If you can't see all this you are as blind as a bat.
Forum » Rugby » The Best Springbok game in years
Now that was what we were asking for. Not the dull tactics that barely won the Welsh test, but a softening up followed by some excellent running rugby. Perhaps the Welsh test was a rope a dope tactic, or perhaps Rassie realized we had to take a few chances.
The test was won with the massive defensive stand in the first half.....and by the Beast's total destruction of Coles. He did it in the British Lions series as well. So many questioned his selection ahead of Kitshoff, but he is the best loosehead in the game.
Vermeulen was, however, the rightful man of the match. Massive brave runs, secure kickoff receptions.....unmoveable on the deck. And there were those who wanted a Deysel twin.
Losing Lomp for Mostert, was no problem either, as Mostert was huge in the goal line defence.
Big games also by Etzebeth, Malherbe, and even Kolisi.
And really all the backs were good today. Allende was solid apart from a bad miss on May in the English in goal. Am showed great touch in the Mapimpi try. And while Kolbe's try was huge, even better was his smother tackle on Lawes when England had a big overlap. Willie found his mojo with one smart early break and fine general fullback play.
But defence was the core of this win.....England, who made a huge mistake playing Ford against this Bok defence, simply had no clue what to do by the second half. They needed Farrell at 10 and Tuilagi at 12. But by the time they made the switch, the Boks were dominant
……continued
I was delighted that we were able to score two fine tries to underscore the win.....something we were criticized for not doing in our other WCs. Scoring those tries provided the high the crowd needed.
Our return to success has come from a rejection of the expansive game and a return to traditional Bok rugby.....with massive defence and physicality. But while last week's performance was dull and risk averse.......today we added the second bit......subdue and then penetrate!
Well done Rassie that was a master class. If the Boks stick with this formula we can get back to where we were before our banning.....top dog.
Oh for fuck sake it was raining
Didn’t seem to bother Mo’unga when he gassed Dud Allende….or the All Blacks when they made 221 passes, 5 offloads and beat 37 tackles. One less tackle beaten than the Boks made in all 3 of their playoff games. And only 12 less passes than the Boks made in all 3 playoff games.
The excuse of that light drizzle is rubbish….you know we would have played no differently if the sun was shining. Anything else?
They had to ...they were chasing the game.
Now back to he original posting. Dave is correct that betting agencies does nt operate on that basis and would not offer odds on that type of thing. However, if somebody goes to Ladbrokes and say I have a thousand pounds and want to lay a bet like the one suggested - they would work out the odds of that happening to be equal to chances of winning a national lottery - ie 6,5 billion to one - and probably accept the bet with odds being a 1000 to 1 or even more.
However, it remains a theoretical question and can never be regarded as factual,
In the meantime it opened another forum for the hate-based attacks on Erasmus that has started in April 2018 and is continuing ever since. It also offer another opportunity to similar attacks iro of hate of some players going back near to 10 years,
No, they played their normal WC game, because the conditions were perfectly playable,
...and yet it wasn't good enough.
Oh wow I must have been watching a different game - so in the final the AB’s were playing a wonderful attacking game
What a load of utter shit - since when did passes, offloads or defenders beaten equate to attacking rugby without context
We could see 20 passes in a single phase that amounts to absolutely nothing, an offload or two means nothing without context. I could beat one defender and run straight into another
Does all this amount to attacking rugby
Fuck no it does not
There was very little attacking rugby played by any of the big sides in the major games
Your take on the Boks not playing attacking rugby in a WC played in wet conditions, stands for all the sides
..and yet it wasn't good enough.
ooooh I felt that muggie bite. But even though it was the product of only 14 men, it would have been good enough if Barrett did a Pollard.
14 men means nothing when the opposition are down to 14 for 20 min and playing without a specialist hooker in the rain
54 (Cane)+10 (Frizell) -10 (Kolisi) - 10 (Kolbe) = 44 minutes
44 x 0.25 points a minute = 11 points
Can you finally grasp this Grade 1 arithmetic?
Your 11 points is fictitious bullshit
Never has and never will apply in a game of rugby
Especially when the side with 15 has no hooker to press home the advantage, not to mention playing in the rain
Boks had the lead when it was 15 against 15 - do the maths with that
Actually no…the Frizell yellow preceded any scoring. So the Boks never had the lead until the benefit of playing against 14 men. Swat….another I’ll considered argument is destroyed.
Bullshit the Boks always had the lead
getting yellow for a deliberate leg roll to take our hooker out...it should have been red...why should we feel like lesser champs because the Allblacks didn't have the discipline to keep all 15 on the pich...the pressure applied by the Bokke lead to those lapses in discipline...that wasn't luck...our preasure game crafted those lapses...BOKKE!!!
PS...if you wanted a running game in the wet, Pollard shouldn't have been the 10....
No one is stupid enough to try play attacking rugby in a WC final when it’s raining
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If you could have somehow and somewhere.... made this specific bet, before the world cup started, I would really like to know what the odds would be...of you getting this correct..
The factors for this particular bet would be:
-- Whoever officiated the rugby world cup final, it would be that ref's 111th game.
-- The eventual world cup winners would win the quarter-final, semi-final, and final ...all by 1 point ... therefore - 111
-- The winners of the 2023 rugby world cup, would accumulate a total score, between them and their opponents .... from the quarter final, to the final, of 111 points .... as per below.
-- South Africa beat France - 29 - 28
-- South Africa beat England - 16 - 15
-- South Africa beat All Blacks - 12 - 11
29+28+16+15+12+11 = 111