Both os wht I would call disastrous decisions = Mo'uhaga is not even making the AB team anymore and os present form a very poor flyhalf badly out of form. By the time tests cme stoumf Sacha will be back and plaing for the Boks, I think you are alking about Jordan Barrett and in his case I do no support his selection. He is playing for Lenster in his off seson and definitely so-so in perfromnces,
Given it’s Arendse I’m replacing I thought it was pretty obvious I’m talking about Will Jordan.
Picking wingers for a world XV is tough. You're losing three of Cheslin Kolbe, Damian Penaud, Kurt-Lee Arendse, Will Jordan and Duhan van der Merwe . . . all of whom are deserving of a spot in a world XV.
For me it would be Cheslin #14 and Duhan #11.
As for the initial question, Rieko Ioane is probably better than anything we've got at outside centre . . . given that Jurenzo Julius hasn't had the test exposure he will surely get in the future.
It's because we left them to play SR against noobs.
Pay us, and we'll come back, Kiwis ;)
Forward play trumps back play….so without the SA teams they erode more than us. Perverse but probably true.
Yes Plum as 8 said years ago we never got a fair deal and the refs were biased against the Jarpies
I said leave them to stew without us and they will regret their behavior at some point.
Let’s just wait until after the Rugby Championship this year shall we boys instead of blowing your trumpets loudly in February!!!
Lol @ moolaa
The only AB player I don’t rate that highly is Cane - none of the rest would let a Bok side down
The Boks are better but there is very little in it
I’d take Ione over Jessie but not Am for instance
Retallick or Barrett over Mostert all day long given how infrequently we start RG - both far far better players
Another Mostert attack……I’d take Savea over Dud Toit any day and add in Dud Allende as a bonus,
Moolaa you chaps were damn close in 2024. In fact you should have won the Ellis Park test, forgoing a penalty when that would have put you two tries in the clear with 15 or so minutes in the game.
This year we play in NZ…these will be massively contested tests.
The fact that you were so close playing in South Africa with a team that, man for man, was not on par….has to be regarded as a bit of a Bok flop. There is still no evidence of a Brown effect.
"Another Mostert attack……I’d take Savea over Dud Toit any day and add in Dud Allende as a bonus,"
And yet you didn't pick the Alblack 12 ahead of DdA in your OP...and Ardi plays 8 or openside...not blindside like The Great PSDT.
"...and Ardi plays 8 or openside...not blindside like The Great PSDT."
Yes . . . but a rugby noob wouldn't know that.
Well Mostert is fucking useless and I mean that sincerely unless you measure a Bok lock by the number of process tackles he makes
Moz you are stupid enough to pick anyone ahead of PSDT for no player has made your name more mud than he has
Well Barrett is even worse….but I’d take Esterhozen ahead of Dud. No center has made less of so much good ball provided by the best pack in the game.
As for Savea, the irony…..Dud is a lock playing flank, Savea covers all the bases of loosie play, Dud Toit covers one….tackling, and then only if it isn’t open field tackling.
Draad the epitome of parochial thinking, if you can call it thinking.
Barrett worse than Mostert? What you smoking?
I was responding to Draad and your post dropped in the interim. So I was talking about Dud Allende and Jordie Barrett. But if it’s a choice between Mostert and Barrett the lock, I’d take Mostert.
I don’t know why some of you have this fascination with Rieko Ioane??
He’s being stymying our outside back attack for years and has never mastered the role of a 13. He’s only ever been a winger (a good one) and is constantly called out by AB supporters to be moved on or out altogether!
Spot on Moolaa he was an excellent wing but seems to have never learned center play. But look who is punting him, Rooinek has a very limited grasp of back play.
powder puff Mostert over Barrett is literally insulting
Bullshit Moola he is better than any of your other 13 options and I’d take him over Jessie Kriel
Ione is dangerous - if you rated him as a wing there is absolutely no reason he is not passable at 13 given how long he has been employed there
If I was defending I’d rather have Jessie coming at me than Ione
Wrong Saffex. His only attribute is a good defence. He is forever dying with the ball on attack and seems totally incapable of running his wings into space or ever actually being able to feed them, a prerequisite I would have thought for any good centre.
Nah, he’s rubbish!
Saffex said he's better than Kriel or any other 13 in NZ...I don’t watch too much SR these days, but I'm sure there should be a decent 13...care to name a few.
The Boks vs AB Player Match ups for upcoming 25 season is also going to be interesting….Wilco Louw vs Tamaiti Williams, Sacha vs Damian Mackenzie….
Then a Cameron Hanekom vs Ardie, PSDT vs Ethan Blackadder and the list goes on….
The 25 season will be tough for the Boks.
Well it will be an exciting year watching the Boks play the AB's / France / Ireland - All away from home.
The AB's will be alot better this year.
Draad, we have Billy Proctor lined up to take the 13 jumper off Rieko but also the ever reliable ALB who can play either 12 or 13. ALB is way underrated outside NZ but is as steady as they come on attack and defence and never makes any silly errors. Other than that, there’s a few promising players but none that’s head and shoulders above the others.
ALB is as boring as fuck
Yes but he doesn’t make errors….
Moola stop selling yourself short
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I can think of three….I would probably play Jordan in place of Arendse. Mo’unga ahead of the Hendrikse/Libbok options, although Pollard would be on the bench for the last 20minutes. And the obvious one, Savea would replace Kolisi.
That’s it. That tells you a lot about the talent pool we have available to us.