Amazing experience on site - Media BS is al that counts

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Oct 17, 2022, 16:33

Whenever any item is dealt with by the members  they claim the media are the only source which  is true,   So we have a crowd of brainwashed fools basing their contribution on the leftist media in the USA and the UK.   Nothing else counts for them. 

Aas if that is not enough conspiracy theories abound on site too.        

Oct 17, 2022, 17:52

Do you ever get sick of misrepresenting people?

The majority of media in the UK is right wing by the way.

Oct 17, 2022, 18:14

So dumb mike, care to share your superior intelligence on you amazing ability to immediately know what is true and wht is fake news, that is one amazing super power you have. 

I think all the world powers should kiss your ass and ask for enlightenment 

Oct 17, 2022, 18:17

Us mere mortals await your every utterance with baited breath, God has obviously appeared on earth as some old prick, who knew

Oct 17, 2022, 19:15

"The majority of media in the UK is right wing by the way."

What a subjective statement...I suppose it depends on where you are on the "spectrum "....from my POV, the majority of media is left wing.:D

Oct 17, 2022, 20:25

I would agree with you, Draad ! 

Oct 18, 2022, 00:25

What a subjective statement

Its not even remotely subjective.

The Times, the Telegraph, the Daily Mail, the Daily Express and the Sun are all right wing newspapers with readership that far out weight left wings papers like the Guardian and the Mirror.

The main news Channel in the UK the BBC has been so totally and utterly compromised and neutered it dare not say any sort of criticism of the Conservative government or Brexit.

The Channel 4 is decent but the UK government attempts to silence it but threatening to sell it off where utterly disgraceful.

Sky News is another Murdock owned media outlet and as for GB news, good lord that joke isn't funny.

Oct 18, 2022, 07:18

Since Covid I have read the news outlets from  India . There is no country in the world with more reporters than them. Hats off to them. 

Oct 18, 2022, 07:28

I do not mind any news outlet - but the Guardian is much like the leftist media in the USA and those thrive on conspiracy theories and propaganda fake news.    When media becomes propaganda outlets  and not real news outlets they are comparable to Lord Haw Haw and Herr Goebbels and obviously Pravda in the late unlamented Soviet Union.   Was it not Goebbels who operated on the principle that if people are fed lies and it nis repeated enough people will ultimately believe it is the truth.    

Lets take a typical example in 2016 Clinton was colluding  with the Russians - yet the Obama Whitehouse and the DNC concocted lies about collusion by Trump and those were religiously spread by the media,   There is not a single member - Stav, SB and the New Zealand members that was not warned  on site that it was fake propaganda news not to be  believed - yet they fell for it lock stock and barrel.  

I do not fall for propaganda but that is not realized by some site members and if you in any way disagree with them you are accused of spreading disinformation.   For instance -

*    in Ukraine the civil war started as a result of an unlawful and unconstitutional coup organized and funded by the USA;

*     when it was claimed there were biolabs doing research on dangerous pathogens - everyone on site claimed it was Russian disinformation - yet in the end in Senate the Assistant Secretary of State under oath admitted there are such labs and the USA is worried the pathogens would fall in the hands of the Russians.

In the latter regard the immediate excuse was the USA are working together to close the labs left by the USSR in 1991 - but 30 years later there were zero progress in closing the old labs down - in fact a completely new lab was constructed with US money and operational funding and control is directly under the control of the USA.

It is a dangerous world we live in and there are serious problems caused by countries and all are making serious mistakes on international level.   I criticize the USA because they are supposed to be the bastion of democracy in the World - yet they are in chaos and their inane conduct are causing world wide problems for all people.   I do also criticize Russia for over-reaction in the Ukraine situation - both the Russians and the USA are at fault for what happened.   Although Russia is not a Communist dictatorship like the USSR used to be/ - there are deficiencies in their Government putting  too much power in the hands of Putin.   In the USA we have a puppet President who suffer from dementia - plenty evidence of that - and the country is governed by an unelected cabal.    China is a really dangerous threat to world peace - but the USA billionaires controlling the USA  Government at present have huge investments in China and what comes out of the US Government is just plain BS in dealing with the problems caused by China.   The amount of word salad is unbelievable.    A typical example of what is going on is the sale of the strategic oil reserves of the USA to China in an obviously corrupt deal being used for the sale.     

In the end I believe it necessary that people should try and determine what is published  in the media should be considered  objectively and with independent minds as to what  is propaganda and what is real news.                                     

Oct 18, 2022, 11:48

"1I do not mind any news outlet"


Oct 18, 2022, 20:56

"Its not even remotely subjective"


Oct 19, 2022, 05:55

This seems credible:

The Guardian - Centre Left (Labour, some Lib Dem)
The Independent - Centre Left (Labour and Lib Dem)
The Observer - Centre Left (Labour and Lib Dem)
The Financial Times - Centrist (Mixed)
The Times - Centrist (Mixed)
The Telegraph - Centre Right (Conservative)

The i - Centre Left (Labour and Lib Dem)

The Morning Star - Left (Socialist parties, some Labour)

Mirror - Centre Left (Labour)
Express - Right (Conservative, UKIP)
Mail - Right (Conservative, UKIP)

Sun - Right (Conservative)
Star - Right (Conservative and far right parties)
News of The World - Right (Conservative)

Oct 19, 2022, 07:01

There's no empirical measure, so it's still a subjective test.

Oct 19, 2022, 16:35

That split of papers is probably accurate but in terms of readership. Right wing papers have the far greater readership.

Oct 19, 2022, 21:43

Ja Stav, I know I'm labled as a right-winger, but just because I'm right of a lefty doesn't make me a's a subjective position...nobody can prove where exactly the center is supposed to be.

Oct 19, 2022, 23:55

"...nobody can prove where exactly the center is supposed to be."

Oh I think we can, Squeaky Toy. You are the centre. So utterly lacking in conviction ot integrity, so eager to please everyone and be liked. The embarrassing way that you grovel and fawn to every other poster in your futile attempts to be relevant or anything other than boring. You are the epicentre.

Oct 19, 2022, 23:56

I never suggested you were.


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