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USA spends 800b on defence budget

Started by Moonrover33 REPLIES2,631 VIEWS· 04 Apr 2023, 21:39
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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
04 Apr 2023, 21:39
#1
04 Apr 2023, 21:39#1

Hear the truth from from a local prof



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Apr 2023, 22:36
#2
04 Apr 2023, 22:36#2

There are a few Americas...Redneck America being the most important one. ..keeping the world safe since 1915ish

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AJHPro3,183 posts
04 Apr 2023, 22:49
#3
04 Apr 2023, 22:49#3

Well I bet many dollars are going to be spent on MEDALS for the top brass.

The top guy was recently summoned to appear before the US Senate and Congress to present  the USA Defence Budge and at the time I noticed that he still has some vacant spots on the right side of his chest so he is sure to be first to get another medal for being a DORK I guess.

With all their training and equipment they wasted a one million  dollar device in an attempt to shoot down the "Chinese Spy Balloon" and had to turn around and have a second go to bring it down.

So much for having the technology and being unable to deliver a first hit at a massive balloon without being under fire.

But the second and following balloons got destroyed even the ones that belong to private balloon clubs in the USA.

Now the truth is being withheld form the USA public because leaked reports indicate that the "Chinese Balloon" actually was a Spy Balloon and even did an 8 flight pattern over one military area.

Old Talibiden has his loyal liars doing the usual rounds and denying everything in a vain attempt to cover his arse and WOKE administration.

What a dismal performance once again but same old system and result as usual.

Shocking to think that they are getting all these Billions of Dollars for Defence and wasting most of it.

The Chinese must be besides themselves with this news.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Apr 2023, 00:16
#4
05 Apr 2023, 00:16#4

$800 Billion for Defense - the highest budget for Defense under Trump was $750 billion.   So where is the $800 going?   Most of the money required is for replacement of second hand armaments provided to Ukraine.

Undedr Trump there was stability in the world - under Bdiden the balance has been disturbed and all over the world the wicked are making trouble.   

The fact is armaments orders by Government includes at least a  15% increase in prices to cater for the normal backhanders to politicians and bureaucrats responsible for allocating the money and for placing resultant orders     

Will that strengthen  the actual army of the USA?    Not a snowballs hope in hell is the answer.   The Biden administration is more interested in  getting kickbacks for corruption and in petty politics in recruitment of new soldiers in terms of race, sexual orientation and women - with no emphasis on strengthening of battlefield abilities.

They can spend $1 Trillion on Defense and the weak army leadership will still end up destroying the army from within.   Another 6 years of the present BS will destroy the USA as a country and turn it into a dictatorship - like found far to often in Third World countries.

   

                       

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
05 Apr 2023, 01:56
#5
05 Apr 2023, 01:56#5

Yep, all the US does is raise the Nuke stakes. There used to be a "cold war" now they are hell bent on issuing in "the day after" 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
05 Apr 2023, 02:52
#6
05 Apr 2023, 02:52#6

Bravo USA .................. apparently 47b has been for the glorious Ukrainians as they heroically battle with the evil Putler's army.

I've repeatedly asked the Russian fanboys here, why the invasion ........... not one response apart from a few quotes from the bible ........... even SebKleb went off on a tangent, instead  talking about the Boer war & some of his family's brave fight vs the Nazis. Lol now he's a Putler acolyte, the biggest nazi neo-fascist leader in the world.

I found the answer eventually ............................

A free and democratic Ukraine can serve as an example for the Russian population, which is why it is so important for Putin to destroy you.   ..Mikhail-Shishkin...





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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
05 Apr 2023, 06:08
#7
05 Apr 2023, 06:08#7

None so blind that they cannot see.

The yanks have been pushing towards Russia since World War 2.

They supplied them with arms fir their own purpose just as they supply Ukraine for their own purposes. If they don't fit their global bullying tactics then they will dump Ukraine. Only now China and Russia and Iran are ready for them,tired of their bullying tactics. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
05 Apr 2023, 06:58
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05 Apr 2023, 06:58#8

Russia's invasion may be as simple as economic interest as well - new oil fields and gas fields having been discovered in the area. I mean, it's not like the USA have never invaded and shot up a country for oil, eh? Money and power lads, it's what the elites want and they'll get it any way any how no matter how many little people need to be trampled. The whole lot is corrupt to the core. Side with the people, not the powers. Russians are suffering, Ukranians are suffering. Zelensky, Putin, Biden, the whole of NATO - all having a ball playing their little game of Risk while washing billions of dollars . Fuck 'em.

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SebPro2,680 posts
05 Apr 2023, 07:25
#9
05 Apr 2023, 07:25#9

Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

Whoso boasteth himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain.

Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world

Every man is senseless and devoid of knowledge; every goldsmith is put to shame by his idols. For his molten images are a fraud, and there is no breath in them.

He feeds on ashes. His deluded heart has led him astray, and he cannot deliver himself or say, "Is not this thing in my right hand a lie?

…For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.…


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Apr 2023, 07:45
#10
05 Apr 2023, 07:45#10

"Side with the people, not the powers. Russians are suffering, Ukranians are suffering. Zelensky, Putin, Biden, the whole of NATO - all having a ball playing their little game of Risk while washing billions of dollars. Fuck 'em."


^^^^

THIS!!!

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SebPro2,680 posts
05 Apr 2023, 07:51
#11
05 Apr 2023, 07:51#11
The nations were enraged, and Your wrath has come. The time has come to judge the dead and to reward Your servants the prophets, as well as the saints and those who fear Your name, both small and great--and to destroy those who destroy the earth."


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
05 Apr 2023, 08:01
#12
05 Apr 2023, 08:01#12

Sit on your thumb & go for a spin. Hallelujah.

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SebPro2,680 posts
05 Apr 2023, 08:03
#13
05 Apr 2023, 08:03#13
Why are the nations in an uproar [in turmoil against God], And why do the people devise a vain and hopeless plot?


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SebPro2,680 posts
05 Apr 2023, 08:10
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05 Apr 2023, 08:10#14
and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
05 Apr 2023, 09:31
#15
05 Apr 2023, 09:31#15

,,

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Apr 2023, 12:50
#16
05 Apr 2023, 12:50#16

BB

I gave on numerous occasions the peaceful solutions to the Ukraine problem and also the background leading to the civil war that was started in Ukraine when the US funded and organized a coup in Ukraine and even decided who should be leading the Government in Ukraine.   There were agreements reached on the issues  and those include the -

*   guaranteeing  the existence of Ukraine as a country; and

*   the compilation of a democratic constitution for Ukraine after the 1991 constitution was destroyed in the 2014 coup.

The Minsk Agreement was undermined by the Obama Government and never implemented - why nobody really knows bar for the fact that Ukraine became a place where corrupt Washington politicians made millions from USAID money allocated to Ukraine.    The main culprits were Biden, Clinton. Pelosi, Schiff and Podesta.  There are ample documents proving the above.    

Matters got worse in 2019 when Zelenskyy was elected as President.   In the Ukraine there were a number of geo-labs started by the USSR - but those were taken over by the US Government under the pretext that they would ensure closing down of the labs.   After the gain of function research in Wuhan - funded by the US Government - became clear as the reason for the Covid pandemic - the Russians reported the matter  to the UN.    The US denied the existence of the Bio-labs and claimed it was Russian lies.   Unfortunately it is dangerous in the USA to lie when questioned by the Senate or the House the same Assistant that discussed the formation of the new Government in Ukraine - admitted that there are indeed bio-labs in Ukraine and then added they were not involved in any dangerous research on pathogens - but then stated they are worried that the labs and pathogens would be captured by the Russians.   If the latter was indeed the case - why them being worried.

The fact is in the weeks before the invasion the Parties involved in the Minsk Agreement met to try and prevent War in Ukraine.    The decisions of the 2015 agreement was confirmed - but before the matter could be finalized Biden in a speech in the USA  declared that the intention of the pending war was to get rid of Putin as President of Russia and the peace effort fell apart.

The US is the main reason why a peaceful solution could not be found.   The present War is ample means to increase even further corruption in Ukraine and the  war should never have started.  During the first week of the invasion a further meeting was organized by Tukey to stop the War,    The meetings started and then the Ukraine delegation got an instruction from Washington not to attend further meetings, 

 The facts indicate that the Biden Administration is a disaster for the USA.   Everything Biden touched has turned into shit.    So the media needs a dis traction they can lie about and the lies are streaming in on a daily basis.   The election is 18 months away and the only way open to the handlers of Biden is a war - in this case a proxy war - to try and convince people to re-elect the corrupt BSter.   

I blame both the USA and Russia for the War.   Russia is accused of the attack on Ukraine - the USA is accused of warmongering and undermining of peace negotiations.   Those are factual and the fake media you believe in 100% is back to a protection racket protecting the thieves and crooks in the USA.                            

                  

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SebPro2,680 posts
05 Apr 2023, 15:50
#17
05 Apr 2023, 15:50#17

Mozart take a visit to Bulletin Office in Keller Centre.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Apr 2023, 18:00
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05 Apr 2023, 18:00#18

The US defense budget is up courtesy of Putin. The same mistake the Russians made in the eighties. China’s aggression likewise will leave a Taiwan and a Japan bristling with missiles.

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SebPro2,680 posts
05 Apr 2023, 20:38
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05 Apr 2023, 20:38#19

LOL Mozart, China the aggressor !

The truth is :

China has been telling the world that its rise will be peaceful because China has never been an aggressor state throughout its long history. As proof, the Chinese point out that it has never invaded another country in the last 2,000 years.20 Aug 2020
Tell me why the West tells lies to derail those who just want to develope their own and mind their business?
How many wars has USA, Great Britain (the British Empire) been involved in by interference (WW2 excluded) as was perhaps the only war justified.
Read about the disgusting Opium Wars that USA and England instigated in China, where opium was grown and used against the Chinese nation to destroy them...it was rife there and nearly destroyed these people during those old days and dare not even mention colonised India what happened there.

Don't even try going there.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Apr 2023, 21:46
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05 Apr 2023, 21:46#20

Seb, China has been invading everywhere for decades...I'm surprised by your naivety. 

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SebPro2,680 posts
05 Apr 2023, 22:04
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05 Apr 2023, 22:04#21

Draad, please don't show ignorance, name one and describe it, since the Ming Dynasty.

Please list them one by one.

That's the trouble with us, we believe bullshit.

We are liars and hypocrites who can't back up with facts and invent fears based on lies.

We judge falsely.

There is an old saying.


"Give a dog a bad name and hang him"

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SebPro2,680 posts
05 Apr 2023, 22:28
#22
05 Apr 2023, 22:28#22

Meanwhile I just want to cause a reset in flesh and blood human bots here who are programmed by lies and false accusations in order to control and enslave them. Poor things they cannot see reality even when it is blatant and punches them in the face.

By the way, is that enough, it does not those after 2004.....Hahahahahaha


US Interventions

US Military and Clandestine Operations in Foreign Countries - 1798-Present

Global Policy Forum
December 2005

Note: This list does not pretend to be definitive or absolutely complete. Nor does it seek to explain or interpret the interventions. Information and interpretation on selected interventions will be later included as links. Note that US operations in World Wars I and II have been excluded.

 

1798-1800France

Undeclared naval war against France, marines land in Puerto Plata.

1801-1805TripoliWar with Tripoli (Libya), called "First Barbary War".1806Spanish MexicoMilitary force enters Spanish territory in headwaters of the Rio Grande.1806-1810Spanish and French in CaribbeanUS naval vessels attack French and Spanish shipping in the Caribbean.1810Spanish West FloridaTroops invade and seize Western Florida, a Spanish possession.1812Spanish East FloridaTroops seize Amelia Island and adjacent territories.1812BritainWar of 1812, includes naval and land operations.1813Marquesas IslandForces seize Nukahiva and establish first US naval base in the Pacific.1814Spanish (East Florida)Troops seize Pensacola in Spanish East Florida.1814-1825French, British and Spanish in CaribbeanUS naval squadron engages French, British and Spanish shipping in the Caribbean.1815Algiers and TripoliUS naval fleet under Captain Stephen Decatur wages "Second Barbary War" in North Africa.1816-1819Spanish East FloridaTroops attack and seize Nicholls' Fort, Amelia Island and other strategic locations. Spain eventually cedes East Florida to the US.1822-1825Spanish Cuba and Puerto RicoMarines land in numerous cities in the Spanish island of Cuba and also in Spanish Puerto Rico.1827GreeceMarines invade the Greek islands of Argentiere, Miconi and Andross.1831Falkland/Malvinas IslandsUS naval squadrons aggress the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic.1832Sumatra, Dutch East IndiesUS naval squadrons attack Qallah Battoo.1833ArgentinaForces land in Buenos Aires and engage local combatants.1835-1836PeruTroops dispatched twice for counter-insurgency operations.1836MexicoTroops assist Texas war for independence.1837CanadaNaval incident on the Canadian border leads to mobilization of a large force to invade Canada. War is narrowly averted.1838Sumatra, Dutch East IndiesUS naval forces sent to Sumatra for punitive expedition.1840-1841FijiNaval forces deployed, marines land.1841SamoaNaval forces deployed, marines land.1842MexicoNaval forces temporarily seize cities of Monterey and San Diego.1843ChinaMarines land in Canton.1843Ivory CoastMarines land.1846-1848MexicoFull-scale war. Mexico cedes half of its territory to the US by the Treaty of Guadeloupe Hidalgo.1849Ottoman Empire (Turkey)Naval force dispatched to Smyrna.1852-1853ArgentinaMarines land in Buenos Aires.1854NicaraguaNavy bombards and largely destroys city of San Juan del Norte. Marines land and set fire to the city.1854JapanCommodore Perry and his fleet deploy at Yokohama.1855UruguayMarines land in Montevideo.1856Colombia (Panama Region)Marines land for counter-insurgency campaign.1856ChinaMarines deployed in Canton.1856HawaiiNaval forces seize small islands of Jarvis, Baker and Howland in the Hawaiian Islands.1857NicaraguaMarines land.1858UruguayMarines land in Montevideo.1858FijiMarines land.1859ParaguayLarge naval force deployed.1859ChinaTroops enter Shanghai.1859MexicoMilitary force enters northern area.1860Portuguese West AfricaTroops land at Kissembo.1860Colombia (Panama Region)Troops and naval forces deployed.1863JapanTroops land at Shimonoseki.1864JapanTroops landed in Yedo.1865Colombia (Panama Region)Marines landed.1866Colombia (Panama Region)Troops invade and seize Matamoros, later withdraw.1866ChinaMarines land in Newchwang.1867NicaraguaMarines land in Managua and Leon in Nicaragua.1867Formosa Island (Taiwan)Marines land.1867Midway IslandNaval forces seize this island in the Hawaiian Archipelago for a naval base.1868JapanNaval forces deployed at Osaka, Hiogo, Nagasaki, Yokohama and Negata.1868UruguayMarines land at Montevideo.1870ColombiaMarines landed.1871KoreaForces landed.1873Colombia (Panama Region)Marines landed.1874HawaiiSailors and marines landed.1876MexicoArmy again occupies Matamoros.1882British EgyptTroops land.1885Colombia (Panama Region)Troops land in Colon and Panama City.1885SamoaNaval force deployed.1887HawaiiNavy gains right to build permanent naval base at Pearl Harbor.1888HaitiTroops landed.1888SamoaMarines landed.1889SamoaClash with German naval forces.1890ArgentinaUS sailors land in Buenos Aires.1891ChileUS sailors land in the major port city of Valparaiso.1891HaitiMarines land on US-claimed Navassa Island.1893HawaiiMarines and other naval forces land and overthrow the monarchy. Read More | President Cleveland's Message1894NicaraguaMarines land at Bluefields on the eastern coast.1894-1895ChinaMarines are stationed at Tientsin and Beijing. A naval ship takes up position at Newchwang.1894-1896KoreaMarines land and remain in Seoul.1895ColombiaMarines are sent to the town Bocas del Toro.1896NicaraguaMarines land in the port of Corinto.1898NicaraguaMarines land at the port city of San Juan del Sur.1898GuamNaval forces seize Guam Island from Spain and the US holds the island permanently.1898CubaNaval and land forces seize Cuba from Spain.1898Puerto RicoNaval and land forces seize Puerto Rico from Spain and the US holds the island permanently.1898PhilippinesNaval forces defeat the Spanish fleet and the US takes control of the country.1899PhilippinesMilitary units are reinforced for extensive counter-insurgency operations.1899SamoaNaval forces land1899NicaraguaMarines land at the port city of Bluefields.1900ChinaUS forces intervene in several cities.1901Colombia/PanamaMarines land.1902Colombia/PanamaUS forces land in Bocas de Toro1903Colombia/PanamaWith US backing, a group in northern Colombia declares independence as the state of Panama1903GuamNavy begins development in Apra Harbor of a permanent base installation.1903HondurasMarines go ashore at Puerto Cortez.1903Dominican RepublicMarines land in Santo Domingo.1904-1905KoreaMarines land and stay in Seoul.1906-1909CubaMarines land. The US builds a major naval base at Guantanamo Bay.1907NicaraguaTroops seize major centers.1907HondurasMarines land and take up garrison in cities of Trujillo, Ceiba, Puerto Cortez, San Pedro, Laguna and Choloma.1908PanamaMarines land and carry out operations.1910NicaraguaMarines land in Bluefields and Corinto.1911HondurasMarines intervene.1911-1941ChinaThe US builds up its military presence in the country to a force of 5000 troops and a fleet of 44 vessels patrolling China's coast and rivers.1912CubaUS sends army troops into combat in Havana.1912PanamaArmy troops intervene.1912HondurasMarines land.1912-1933NicaraguaMarines intervene. A 20-year occupation of the country follows.1913MexicoMarines land at Ciaris Estero.1914Dominican RepublicNaval forces engage in battles in the city of Santo Domingo.1914MexicoUS forces seize and occupy Mexico's major port city of Veracrus from April through November.1915-1916MexicoAn expeditionary force of the US Army under Gen. John J. Pershing crosses the Texas border and penetrates several hundred miles into Mexican territory. Eventually reinforced to over 11,000 officers and men.1914-1934HaitiTroops land, aerial bombardment leading to a 19-year military occupation.1916-1924Dominican RepublicMilitary intervention leading to 8-year occupation.1917-1933CubaLanding of naval forces. Beginning of a 15-year occupation.1918-1920PanamaTroops intervene, remain on "police duty" for over 2 years.1918-1922RussiaNaval forces and army troops fight battles in several areas of the country during a five- year period.1919YugoslaviaMarines intervene in Dalmatia.1919HondurasMarines land.1920GuatemalaTroops intervene.1922TurkeyMarines engaged in operations in Smyrna (Izmir).1922-1927ChinaNaval forces and troops deployed during 5-year period.1924-1925HondurasTroops land twice in two-year period.1925PanamaMarines land and engage in operations.1927-1934ChinaMarines and naval forces stationed throughout the country.1932El SalvadorNaval forces intervene.1933CubaNaval forces deployed.1934ChinaMarines land in Foochow.1946IranTroops deployed in northern province.1946-1949ChinaMajor US army presence of about 100,000 troops, fighting, training and advising local combatants.1947-1949GreeceUS forces wage a 3-year counterinsurgency campaign.1948ItalyHeavy CIA involvement in national elections.1948-1954PhilippinesCommando operations, "secret" CIA war.1950-1953KoreaMajor forces engaged in war in Korean peninsula.1953IranCIA overthrows government of Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh. Read More1954VietnamFinancial and materiel support for colonial French military operations, leads eventually to direct US military involvement.1954GuatemalaCIA overthrows the government of President Jacobo Arbenz Guzman.1958LebanonUS marines and army units totaling 14,000 land.1958PanamaClashes between US forces in Canal Zone and local citizens.1959HaitiMarines land.1960CongoCIA-backed overthrow and assassination of Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba.1960-1964VietnamGradual introduction of military advisors and special forces.1961CubaCIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion.1962CubaNuclear threat and naval blockade.1962LaosCIA-backed military coup.1963EcuadorCIA backs military overthrow of President Jose Maria Valesco Ibarra.1964PanamaClashes between US forces in Canal Zone and local citizens.1964BrazilCIA-backed military coup overthrows the government of Joao Goulart and Gen. Castello Branco takes power. Read More1965-1975VietnamLarge commitment of military forces, including air, naval and ground units numbering up to 500,000+ troops. Full-scale war, lasting for ten years.1965IndonesiaCIA-backed army coup overthrows President Sukarno and brings Gen. Suharto to power.1965CongoCIA backed military coup overthrows President Joseph Kasavubu and brings Joseph Mobutu to power.1965Dominican Republic23,000 troops land.1965-1973LaosBombing campaign begin, lasting eight years.1966GhanaCIA-backed military coup ousts President Kwame Nkrumah.1966-1967GuatemalaExtensive counter-insurgency operation.1969-1975CambodiaCIA supports military coup against Prince Sihanouk, bringing Lon Nol to power. Intensive bombing for seven years along border with Vietnam.1970OmanCounter-insurgency operation, including coordination with Iranian marine invasion.1971-1973LaosInvasion by US and South Vietnames forces.1973ChileCIA-backed military coup ousts government of President Salvador Allende. Gen. Augusto Pinochet comes to power.1975CambodiaMarines land, engage in combat with government forces.1976-1992AngolaMilitary and CIA operations.1980IranSpecial operations units land in Iranian desert. Helicopter malfunction leads to aborting of planned raid.1981LibyaNaval jets shoot down two Libyan jets in maneuvers over the Mediterranean.1981-1992El SalvadorCIA and special forces begin a long counterinsurgency campaign.1981-1990NicaraguaCIA directs exile "Contra" operations. US air units drop sea mines in harbors.1982-1984LebanonMarines land and naval forces fire on local combatants.1983GrenadaMilitary forces invade Grenada.1983-1989HondurasLarge program of military assistance aimed at conflict in Nicaragua.1984IranTwo Iranian jets shot down over the Persian Gulf.1986LibyaUS aircraft bomb the cities of Tripoli and Benghazi, including direct strikes at the official residence of President Muamar al Qadaffi.1986BoliviaSpecial Forces units engage in counter-insurgency.1987-1988IranNaval forces block Iranian shipping. Civilian airliner shot down by missile cruiser.1989LibyaNaval aircraft shoot down two Libyan jets over Gulf of Sidra.1989PhilippinesCIA and Special Forces involved in counterinsurgency.1989-1990Panama27,000 troops as well as naval and air power used to overthrow government of President Noriega.1990LiberiaTroops deployed.1990-1991IraqMajor military operation, including naval blockade, air strikes; large number of troops attack Iraqi forces in occupied Kuwait.1991-2003IraqControl of Iraqi airspace in north and south of the country with periodic attacks on air and ground targets.1991HaitiCIA-backed military coup ousts President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.1992-1994SomaliaSpecial operations forces intervene.1992-1994YugoslaviaMajor role in NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.1993-1995BosniaActive military involvement with air and ground forces.1994-1996HaitiTroops depose military rulers and restore President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to office.1995CroatiaKrajina Serb airfields attacked.1996-1997Zaire (Congo)Marines involved in operations in eastern region of the country.1997LiberiaTroops deployed.1998SudanAir strikes destroy country's major pharmaceutical plant.1998AfghanistanAttack on targets in the country.1998IraqFour days of intensive air and missile strikes.1999YugoslaviaMajor involvement in NATO air strikes.2001MacedoniaNATO troops shift and partially disarm Albanian rebels.2001AfghanistanAir attacks and ground operations oust Taliban government and install a new regime.2003IraqInvasion with large ground, air and naval forces ousts government of Saddam Hussein and establishes new government.2003-presentIraqOccupation force of 150,000 troops in protracted counter-insurgency war2004HaitiMarines land. CIA-backed forces overthrow President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.
 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2023, 03:15
#23
06 Apr 2023, 03:15#23

Ever heard about Hong Kong? 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Apr 2023, 07:38
#24
06 Apr 2023, 07:38#24

Seb, they don't use armies to invade...they send their people to settle all over the world...and they buy influence, resources and strategic infrastructure all over the globe, yet it's almost impossible for any foreigner to settle in China...they are very, very dangerous and if it wasn't for the USA, they wold be worse...don't kid yourself they are our enemy...and BTW, they are responsible for Covid too...and swine flu...and bird flu. They have some good peple there but the CCP is the greatest threat to the Western way of life, not Putin.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
06 Apr 2023, 08:16
#25
06 Apr 2023, 08:16#25

Seb, please don't ever think that it is only war that constitutes a country trying to "invade" other areas around the world....

The Chinese have been masters of this for decades....

There are far too many reasons to mention here why China does this, but absolutely none of these reasons are good, in any way and they do it solely to benefit themselves, and in most instances it is always to the detriment of the country that they lent the money to.

Whether it be for economic reasons, political, or just from a natural resources point of view, China will always do the dirty to ge t what it wants in the long run. 


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SebPro2,680 posts
06 Apr 2023, 08:20
#26
06 Apr 2023, 08:20#26

Aha, we have finally "found" a speck in China's eye after grappling and scratching around, at least we think we're found because big brother said so and we have been programmed to automatically agree.

Hong Kong LOL which was lease to another past bully, the British Empire.

Empires of lies and hypocrisy, no I don't think you are stupid but a victim of your own false pride, imagining vain things that are not there and bad naming other nations so you can satisfy your greed and power, using "weaker" nations all over the world to exploit and keep in bondage.

Sad and tragic and yes it's now reached a threshold and climax and no, you won't defeat and destroy China and Russia because simply they won't or never will surrender, believe me....there's just so much you can pour in. They have just had enough of constant meddling.

Just 2 things can in reality happen at this climax, either USA and NATO stops and turns around or WW3.

Greed and power are a disease and no, money is not necessary evil but the love of it and lust for power is.

Do unto others as you would like done to you, respect their differences, live and let live and respect this, help each other to prosper and never covert, or be jealous of anothers prosperity and resources.

We will certainly be more happy doing this.

There are some unsavoury elements in all mankind especially our own, lets acknowledge that truth and leave them alone to fix it and only help them if they ask you without clandestine obligations and bondage...it's really none of our business otherwise.

We are only left with 2 choices...carry on with your emotional war games stemmed from pure hatred and fear...play the fiddle while "Rome" burns.



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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
06 Apr 2023, 09:49
#27
06 Apr 2023, 09:49#27

Ti's true... So often we hear Russia invaded Ukraine

So often we forget USA invaded alm those countries listed. 



WOOSH... Silence

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 Apr 2023, 10:29
#28
06 Apr 2023, 10:29#28
I have a question for everybody here. Why, in a world where we are better equipped to find solutions to problems than ever before, are we seemingly struggling so much to come up with solutions?
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SebPro2,680 posts
06 Apr 2023, 11:25
#29
06 Apr 2023, 11:25#29

Some here are so tragically enslaved by their own psychotic mental condition, a sickness that breeds hatred for things they simply don't understand and results in fear.

I find it strange that despite what actually is and has happened they seek and trust only that which is clearly not true and only see what they want to see to satisfy their own well-being and self-centered egos.The western hegemonic mindset is reinforced that way and the most frightening thing now is people are being controlled by enforcing compliance to those who choose to seek, find and discern using their own individual ability to reason and actually independent experience, against the status quo.

Covid 19 and it's restrictions appears to assist and infect peoples mental health, a sort of conditioning process. People are angry and frustrated. They appear to be lost, not knowing and this results in speculation, assumptions, presumptions and fear. They take it out on each other, even those they generally get on fairly well. Now with the world in turmoil in just about everything it exacerbates the situations to extremes.

On top of that our identities, our cultures, our unique individuality and characters are threatened by those evils which want us to identical in all aspects, bar a code of numbers. It has been going on for some time now, at first maybe 2 decades ago, subtlety and now with  aggressive leaps and bounds towards AI which will turn us into obedient robots. No souls and empty spirits and colourless nobodies. Another brick in the wall. Musk was partly right when he warned if we go to far with AI, we are summoning the demons. However I believe we should kill this at the root.

We probably won't however because we could utterly destroyed the world and it is possible it could be just around the corner.

China identifies ‘first red line’ in US relationsBeijing demands that Washington stop all contacts with Taipei “at once”

The Taiwan issue is the “first red line” that shouldn’t be crossed in relations between China and the US, Beijing has told Washington.

The warning from the Chinese Foreign Ministry came early on Thursday, hours after Taiwanese leader Tsai Ing-wen met with US House Speaker Kevin McCarthy and other lawmakers in California’s Simi Valley.

“China firmly opposes and strongly condemns” the high-profile meeting that took place on American soil, the ministry said in a statement. “It seriously infringes upon China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and sends an egregiously wrong signal to the ‘Taiwan independence’ separatist forces,” it added.

Beijing will take “strong and resolute measures” in response to “egregiously wrong action” taken by Washington and Taipei, the ministry warned.

“The Taiwan question is at the core of China’s core interests and the first red line that must not be crossed in China-US relations,” the statement read.

According to Beijing, an independent Taipei and stability in the Taiwan Strait were as “irreconcilable as fire and water.”


The Chinese Foreign Ministry urged the US “not go further down the wrong and dangerous path” of trying to use the Taiwan issue to “contain” China. Washington should adhere to the One-China principle and “stop at once any form of official exchanges with Taiwan,” it said.

Taiwan has been self-governed since 1949, but never officially declared independence from China. Beijing, which considers the island to be a part of its territory, strongly opposes its contacts with the US.

Despite officially recognizing Beijing as the sole legitimate authority in China since 1979, Washington maintains strong unofficial ties with Taipei, supporting its push for sovereignty and promising to defend the island militarily in the event of an attack from the mainland.

“We’re stronger when we are together,” Tsai told McCarthy during their meeting on Wednesday. The Taiwanese leader said she was grateful to the US for helping with “efforts to protect our way of life.”

McCarthy said “friendship between the people of Taiwan and America is a matter of profound importance to the free world. It is critical to maintain economic freedom, peace and regional stability

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It’s the second time that Tsai has met a US House speaker in less than a year. A visit by McCarthy’s predecessor, Democrat Nancy Pelosi, to Taiwan last August caused a major spike in tensions between Beijing and Washington as China launched its largest-ever military drills in the Taiwan Strait and slapped sanctions on Taipei.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2023, 13:30
#30
06 Apr 2023, 13:30#30

I love the way on the list there is no mention of DDay….given the incredible bias that produces that list, without any of the motivations, I would have thought this might be in there:

‘In 1944 the USA and Allies deploy a huge invasion force to attack Germany,  a nation that had made no direct attacks on the USA.’

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AJHPro3,183 posts
06 Apr 2023, 15:59
#31
06 Apr 2023, 15:59#31

Best to start learning the two most used Chinese languages as they are slowly taking over countries without firing a shot.

Just go to any international import and observe the influx of the Chinese folks migration into the USA and Canada.

Between China and India the take over of areas in these countries is alarming and not only changing the cities and businesses but politically as well.

It starts with municipal elections, then province/state elections and then the big prize Federal elections.

This is planned and promoted by politicians who seek their votes at any cost to the country or its population.

Wake up.

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SebPro2,680 posts
06 Apr 2023, 16:29
#32
06 Apr 2023, 16:29#32

It does not mention D-Day obviously as it's not relevant, the heading says :

US Military and Clandestine Operations in Foreign Countries - 1798-Present

Global Policy Forum
December 2005

Note: This list does not pretend to be definitive or absolutely complete. Nor does it seek to explain or interpret the interventions. Information and interpretation on selected interventions will be later included as links. Note that US operations in World Wars I and II have been excluded.

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Apr 2023, 16:34
#33
06 Apr 2023, 16:34#33

elMozart

I hope for your sake you are correct - we need Democracy in  the world and not dictatorships - but I belivee than when Soros writes out policies to be implemented iro law and order and Gates on global warming - which is implemented by Bidem - is there not a threat to Democracy in the USA?

I Trump is charged with unlawful actions to impact on the 2016 election - a charge which is total BS compared to the Russian Collusion lies concocted by the Democrats - the situation is really farcical.   Incidentally I saw a classmate of mine in the shop and e told me  his son  as a senior position in Delta Airways in the USA.   He said that the people he worked with are up in arms as t he charges amount to BS - which will backfire on th e Democrats.

When the FBI. the CIA, Homeland Security and the WH collude with the media and internet platforms to censor news that could be detrimental to the Democratic Party -  while the Biden Presidency tried to implement a Disinformation Board is that indicating that Democracy is under attack?

If the FBI are instructed that parents who at school board meetings about the quality of education  offered in State schools are to be regarded as  Domestic Terrorists?   When lawbreakers are free to break the law and no action is taken against them based on Soros  policy instruction - is that democratic?

Another 6 years of Democratic Party rule and if the people survive  WW3 the Democrats are striving to make sure it happens - will there be anything left of Democracy in the USA?             



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SebPro2,680 posts
06 Apr 2023, 18:11
#34
06 Apr 2023, 18:11#34

RED ALERT- THE ROAD TO DECEPTION.

https://www.youtube.com/live/K8Xq-jx06bQ?feature=share

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