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Here's the guy who may have to go

Started by Mozart3 REPLIES1,048 VIEWS· 27 Mar 2018, 23:45
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Mar 2018, 23:45
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27 Mar 2018, 23:45#1
'When Sutherland sacked Mickey Arthur as head coach five years ago he said the responsibility for team discipline lay with the head coach. “Discipline, consistency of behaviour and accountability for performances are all key ingredients that need to improve. And we see that the head coach is ultimately responsible,” he said in 2013. Arthur was sacked for disciplining players for not doing homework. ' ... Sutherland seems to be a bit inconsistent, and he has been around for a long time. De facto he is the face of Aussie cricket. How many coaches do you change before it's your problem. Also, if he is just a little bit sensitive he might notice Lehmann is not exactly cleared in the court of public opinion. Nor have his comments about the Newlands crowd gone down well....fans aren't stupid, they know Quintie is no rabble rouser, they have a good sense of who started all this and they are angry. The Australian team is in effect leaderless at this point and Sutherland should have reserved a room for the fourth test. He might also have developed a little bit better sense of what really happened in crotchgate if he spent a bit of time with the team.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
28 Mar 2018, 13:51
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28 Mar 2018, 13:51#2

Moz

It's utter nonsense. Always so easy to describe how perfectly one would behave in adverse situations but the true test only happens when those situations arise and you have to act.

From start to end yesterday, this was all about half truths, scapegoating and damage limitation.

CA will have us believe that...

a) this never happened earlier in the series - Despite occurrences in previous games leading to the cameramen looking to see if they are tampering. Amazingly, the cause for the investigation was erroneous, yet yielded the expected results. How lucky huh!

b) nobody else but those three knew about it - Despite it being practically impossible for the bowlers not to notice the amount of reverse they are getting being completely abnormal AND early. Despite memebers of the English team claiming that Warner admitted to ball tampering over drinks during the Ashes.

c) That they have been transparent in their investigation in the hopes of putting this right - When it's clear that they wont even admit it's "Cheating" even after being asked three times. So what is it then if not cheating?

The fact is that they don't want to sack the coach because the WC is around the corner and they'll have to rebuild. They care more about he WC than they do about actually stopping the rot which is quite obviously overseen by Lehmann.

The way things are playing out it does appear as though CA are in part responsible for the way the Oz team have been conducting themselves of late. From the swearing at players, of which there is account on top of account from India, to England to SA - All of which according to Smith is nonsense. All being overseen and likely pushed by Lehmann.

Also notice that nothing will be said about Bancroft putting sugar in his pocket during the Ashes. It's there on video, just before he runs onto the field, being done by the same guy who was just caught ball tempering, but somehow this "investigation" leads CA to believe that this is the first time this ever happened? Funny, sugar and sticky tape would be pretty useful? We saw the sticky tape during this test and the sugar during the ashes...It takes very little assumption to arrive at an answer here. Thorough investigation my arse!

Its stinks to high heaven and if anything this should show the Oz public what kind of people are running their favorite sport.

In that type of culture, are we surprised to find that young skippers end up becoming cheats?

Just as Bancroft didn't do this out of the blue, so to i believe Steve Smith didn't just dream this up. He has been involved in a dressing room where the culture is poor, overseen and probably pushed into it by the coach, who himself answers to what appear to be a pretty arrogant CA who after all this commotion still appear adamant to lie to the public.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Mar 2018, 14:41
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28 Mar 2018, 14:41#3

Plum

I could see that the main object was to cover up the situation.  Aside from the issues mentioned by you there was –

*    the  Rabada issue – where I believe the conduct  of Smith was deplorable;

*     the De Kock – Warner incident  -  there has never ever been an incident where De Kock was accused of unacceptable behaviour, conduct or  language abuse and that were confirmed that it is not in his nature to abuse people;

*      the fact that there was a virtual 100% improvement in the swing bowlling of the Assies bowlers compared to their achievements in Australia starting extremely early in innings and the suspicion that  the ball has been tempered with in all three tests.

The extremely poor conduct by Ausie players turning the tests series into a soap opera is not covered – but I believe it starts with CA and goes from the top down.  CA should start cleaning up and Lehmann is one guy clearly involved in bad conduct promotion.         


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
28 Mar 2018, 18:31
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28 Mar 2018, 18:31#4

Agree with you both.

Clever policy they're using really. Taking lack of time and turning into an advantage by having to do things "quickly". 

It's a matter of happenstance that the other suspicious stuff isn't investigated properly. Wink wink!

Very clever.

Worst shame is that Smith is a bloody good player. We dislike him immensely. He even looks the part. But he can bat that guy! 

What he'll probably do now is go to nets for the a few hours a day and smash balls. Plotting his vengeance. 

I hope so. 

Warner can pi55 off though. 

It's also annoying that it may have happened during this test series. If they were cheating and that cost us maybe two or three wickets per innings. That's a lot and it would have changed the margins substantially.

Most of the wickets were lost with the "older" ball, so it's plausible.

#C rotchgateConspiracyFiles


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