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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
28 Feb 2023, 12:37
#1
28 Feb 2023, 12:37#1

how the rookies shape up to their first taste of Test cricket.


My team in order.....


1) Toni de Zorzi

2) Keegan Peterson

3) Temba Bavuma

4) Aiden Markram

5) Ryan Rickleton

6) Klaasen

7) Marco Jansen

8) Keshev Maharaj

9) Kagiso Rabada

10) Gerald Coetzee

11) Anrich Nortje



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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
28 Feb 2023, 22:13
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28 Feb 2023, 22:13#2
BEEEEEEEE‘Bavuma at 3!!!??? What’s it, 1 x 100 in 94 innings and averaging a staggering 34. I see he did super well today hahaha Why do you do this to yourself???
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Mar 2023, 03:48
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01 Mar 2023, 03:48#3

Plum, I'll say this very slowly........I don't care about your cricket thoughts and opinions, I regret wasting my time arguing with you.....much as I welcome cricket debate and opinion I think of yours as irrelevant and insignificant.

Consider my post a favour.

You're now struggling or should I say scraping to ridicule me which just goes to demonstrate a somewhat bruised ego. 

But tell me this....in what position would you place Bavuma?

And again......consider my response a favour.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Mar 2023, 13:43
#4
01 Mar 2023, 13:43#4

Bavuma should not play test cricket.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Mar 2023, 13:46
#5
01 Mar 2023, 13:46#5

deleted ...was trying something

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Mar 2023, 13:49
#6
01 Mar 2023, 13:49#6
No Draad, he should bat at 3. The spot generally reserved for the best player in the side. So says aunty full-o-Dentsie. Imagine having one 100 to you name, as a front line batter, in a hundred innings and believing that you’re not a BEE pick. Nogal skippie and all. Lol
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Mar 2023, 13:53
#7
01 Mar 2023, 13:53#7

I think Peterson was unlucky yesterday...there was something on the Snicko... a whisper, but there.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Mar 2023, 15:13
#8
01 Mar 2023, 15:13#8
I’m in snow land so didn’t manage to catch any of the game but kept some tabs on the score. I still can’t believe that Bavuma is our test captain. It’s a slap in the face to our cricket. I don’t think Markram should be an opener but i do think he should be in the side and i would have given him the job.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Mar 2023, 16:42
#9
01 Mar 2023, 16:42#9
And Nortje cleans up. Lekker, Mitch!!!
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Mar 2023, 17:34
#10
01 Mar 2023, 17:34#10

And Bavuma goes for a pair...Karma is a bitch...I actually liked him a few years ago...he reminded me of Peter Kirsten, but he just couldn't step up...software problem.

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AJHPro3,183 posts
01 Mar 2023, 18:14
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01 Mar 2023, 18:14#11

How can the skipper add a pair of ducks to his average in test cricket.

He is an not worth a place in the team or being made the Skipper.

Unfortunately politics in all walks of life in RSA is the reason.

Never has worked in RSA but the same road is continuing to lead to the shambles.

Sad when you see the TV coverage of the crowds enjoying the SA T20 games and the pride they take in their teams and now we are back in this ANC camp.



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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Mar 2023, 18:36
#12
01 Mar 2023, 18:36#12
If only we had the balls to start forming rebel teams.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Mar 2023, 18:39
#13
01 Mar 2023, 18:39#13
Must admit, I’m stoked that BEE’vuma got two ducks. He know’s he doesn’t deserve the skipper’s job but he said yes anyway.
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AJHPro3,183 posts
01 Mar 2023, 19:29
#14
01 Mar 2023, 19:29#14

Well with his connections in the political world who else was considered.

But sadly he has really turned into a joke.

A bad one.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Mar 2023, 19:37
#15
01 Mar 2023, 19:37#15

"He know’s he doesn’t deserve the skipper’s job but he said yes anyway."

That's the problem with BEE...these guys are convinced by the PTB that it's their duty to be a symbol of hope for their country...I don't blame them, I pity them...the preasure on them is immense...same with Kolisi...atleast for him a case can be made that he's there on merit....sort of...

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AJHPro3,183 posts
01 Mar 2023, 19:49
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01 Mar 2023, 19:49#16

Yep I am not blaming him for accepting the captaincy but his form does not merit a spot in the playing team at present.

But with that said it would not be accepted by the ANC for him to be sidelined or replaced as Kaptein.

Unfortunately he is being used for political reasons by you know who.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 13:33
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02 Mar 2023, 13:33#17
Jansen doing the business this morning. This guy just keeps impressing.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 14:43
#18
02 Mar 2023, 14:43#18
Bowlers having to save Protea bacon yet again.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:19
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02 Mar 2023, 15:19#19
There is no point wasting more time on Bavuma and Elgar. We’ve seen all we’re gonna see from them and it isn’t enough. Granted, Elgar has done a job for us at times but he was never top tier and has overseen a shocking period of Protea’s batting. Bavuma is a giant wad of television pixels. I say, get the more talented young guys in, bite the bullet for a couple of years and then reap the rewards for a decade. There’s no point messing around any more. We’ve been batting like shyte for years and years now and it’s because keep wanting to hang on to guys with sub 40 averages simply because they have experience. We have a good handful of clearly test quality youngsters and we should be building a unit not instead of trying these patch jobs. I can’t see us batting any more Malan Brevis Stubbs Markram Rickleton Klaasen You can’t tell me that top six would’t get more runs than the current.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 19:00
#20
02 Mar 2023, 19:00#20
KG kinda saved the day in the end. Two decent scores all we managed in this Test. Another batting failure as far as i’m concerned.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Mar 2023, 21:28
#21
02 Mar 2023, 21:28#21

Blackwood got lucky to make it closer, but it still was a walk in the park...

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 21:54
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02 Mar 2023, 21:54#22
Only a walk in the park because the Windies suck at batting. Anything like Pakistan or better and we’d be seriously struggling to cope.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 06:53
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03 Mar 2023, 06:53#23

I agree that both Elgar and Bavuma should go...and I don't see the point with playing Klaassen now...they should be begging De Kock to come back.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 Mar 2023, 07:46
#24
03 Mar 2023, 07:46#24

No, there's  26yr wickie Ryan Rickleton in the current squad ready to go. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Mar 2023, 15:08
#25
03 Mar 2023, 15:08#25
Welcome back, aunty. What did you think of the test?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Mar 2023, 15:20
#26
03 Mar 2023, 15:20#26

De Kock fails when he needs to succeed, like at WCs. But what happened to  Verrynne the man that the selectors were derelict in not selecting.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Mar 2023, 15:22
#27
03 Mar 2023, 15:22#27
I still like him for the Test side, Moz…but he’s a keeper. Though, I’d take him as a batter ahead of Bavuma and Pietersen.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Mar 2023, 15:24
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03 Mar 2023, 15:24#28
Agree on Quintie. He’s a hired gun that can win you game on his own but when the pressure is on, he’s not the guy one wants there. He can stay in the T20 side.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 18:58
#29
03 Mar 2023, 18:58#29

QsK won us twice the matches he lost us...we are better with him tban without...not playing him is stupid and weakens us...I would play him and Verreynne....Klaassen isn't bad, but it's too late for him...ship sailed already.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Mar 2023, 22:06
#30
03 Mar 2023, 22:06#30
With the way we’ve batted in tests for the last 3 years…we may as well just play an ODI squad in Tests. QDK doesn’t wanna play Tests though.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Mar 2023, 01:01
#31
04 Mar 2023, 01:01#31

This is interesting, the top South African WC batsmen:

Klusener 124

AB de Villiers 63.52

Faf du Plessis 57.57

Gibbs 56.15

Miller 51.11

Hudson 47.58

Kirsten 47.41

……..

De Ock 29.8….way down on his ODI average for all internationals of 45.57. More proof that de Ock simply doesn’t come through when it counts. If we exclude the non crucial ODIs his stats plummet further.

That would include the Sri Lanka  match in 2015, where their total was so low, pressure was alleviated and the dead rubber match against Oz when we were already out. Take those matches out and his average drops to a less than mediocre 22.64.

Pressure and poor technique…he was really a number 6 bat where he would occasionally come off.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Mar 2023, 20:11
#32
07 Mar 2023, 20:11#32
See, Dentsie…that’s how you make a call. https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/aiden-markram-is-south-africas-t20i-captain-temba-bavuma-dropped-1362028 “ It’s a slap in the face to our cricket. I don’t think Markram should be an opener but i do think he should be in the side and i would have given him the job.” Ask nicely and I’ll tell you where I bought my crystal ball.
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AJHPro3,183 posts
08 Mar 2023, 19:08
#33
08 Mar 2023, 19:08#33

Well Markram nearly got a century and Captain got into double figures.

Progress but that is against the WI not one of the major test teams.

Liked de Zorzi's steady knock.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
09 Mar 2023, 10:44
#34
09 Mar 2023, 10:44#34

Liked de Zorzi's steady knock.

So did I, let's hope there's a lot more to follow, we really don't need another one swallow.

Also interested to see how Rickleton goes in the 2nd innings.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Mar 2023, 14:21
#35
10 Mar 2023, 14:21#35
I see skippy got 50. Are we in line for his second century every in Test cricket? I hope so, because yet again our batting has crumbled. Linde and Jansen should be playing ahead of Maharaj and Harmer. Because what else must the Proteas do prove that we need a very very very long tail?
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Mar 2023, 17:20
#36
10 Mar 2023, 17:20#36

165*

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AJHPro3,183 posts
10 Mar 2023, 18:12
#37
10 Mar 2023, 18:12#37

Well Captain really has played a responsible captain's innings at the right time.

Sure has us "Bavuma" knockers eating humble pie with this innings.

Good knock and I hope that he makes 200 plus.

Just shows that he has the talent and that hopefully the slump in his game is over.   


Still on cricket did any of you folks watch the Green batting performance against India.

What a great cricketer this young man is.

Power batting on a spinners wicket and against India's best spinners......unbelievable performance.




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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Mar 2023, 21:09
#38
10 Mar 2023, 21:09#38
The lead is 360 atm. Glad Bavuma finally got a score but it is a rarity. Perhaps he’ll find some good form for a while. He now has two centuries in a hundred innings and is 32. This score should see him stay in the team until he retires :/
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Mar 2023, 08:19
#39
11 Mar 2023, 08:19#39

Well done to him, but one swallow doesn't a spring make...he'll have to build on this, but our next test is only in 9 months time...we don't play enough tests...

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 Mar 2023, 12:45
#40
11 Mar 2023, 12:45#40
Lol the Windies are a joke
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