Who is the better all-rounder - Andile or M Prtetorisu

Pretorius is in fact a bowling all=rounder - while Andile is more of a batting all-rounder.    To consider their performances one has to go to their performances on provincial level and see how they do perform in the shorter versions of the game  both in batting nd bowling:-

Batting in 50 over games

                                                         Andile                              Pretpris

Average                                            26.42                                12.33

Strike Rate                                        87.38                              106,73

Bowling in 50 over games

                                                        Andile                              Pretorius

Average                                            31,46                                 25,05

Economy                                            5,53                                   4.01

Batting in T20 games

                                                     Andile                              Pretorius

Average                                           11,10                                 14,00

Strike rate                                      115.14                               136.58

Bowling in T20 games

Average                                           25,32                                20.70

Economy                                            8,48                                 7.68

The situation is that Andile played in 100 50-over games and 91 20 over games - while Pretorius played in 18 50 over games and 18 T20 games,   The sample is big enough to give an accurate reflection of how the two players perform on a comparison basis.

Andile came out looking much better in batting in 50 over games - but in all other facets of the game  his performances  were worse than that of Pretorius,   I would rather strengthen the bowling and batting combined  and in all probably play Pretorius at 8 and Mulder at 7 in both ODI's and  T20I"s ahead of Andile.           

Dave

The following batted very well today i the first match today:-

Hamza, Verreinne and Van Tonder - the latter during the first game this series.

The Knights needed 20 runs off the last over to win the match - so Migael Pretorius  had 19 runs scored in the over plus a no-ball by the bowler made up of two runs, 2 sixes an d a four off the last ball.   What a star.    

Sorry Mike...

Which M Pretorius are you referring to above?

Are you typing before thinking again?

I am referring to the right player - Migael Pretorius of the Knights,  

In the g ame today he on his own won the game against  the Cobras making 18 runs in the last over, in 4 balls.    

Chippo

That is the kind of player the Proteas need when runs are needed in the late part of shortened version games,   

Other than present players like Markraan, De Kock,  Rabada, Ngidi amd Mulder - Van Tonder and Potgieter will be my first choice for the upcoming  series against Pakistan. 

We agree!

We also agree on Duane Pretorius vs Andile.

Ever seen Nandre Burger bowl?

Yes I have - he is good  nit need some finer point coaching,   He should move to Bloemfontein for some coaching  by Donald.    

"Von Berg another fat old twat playing pro cricket"

See David, cricket is for people of all shapes.

Go on.. get out there and play some ball son!

Arjuna will be waiting for you.

Players like Nortje and Pretorius did the wise thing - they first ensure that they lay the right basis academic wise before turning to professional cricket.    However both should have been in the Proteas team years ago.

Players should b e selected  on performance-based merit and not reputation,           

The two games today will be between -

*   the Warriors and the Cobras; and

*   the  Highveld Lions and the Knights

All of  Hamza, Verreinne, Rickelton, Van Tonder and M Pretorius will be in the games yo be played,    Wonder why Janneman Malan has not been  used  yet.       

The two games today will be between -

*   the Warriors and the Cobras; and

*   the  Highveld Lions and the Knights

All of  Hamza, Verreinne, Rickelton, Van Tonder and M Pretorius will be in the games yo be played,    Wonder why Janneman Malan has not been  used  yet.       

Sport is a short-term career in which money can be made - but in most cases  bar a few - not enough to last a lifetime..   Especially in SA - where national selection is not always on merit  it is a tricky situation to be in.

The real money in cricket is in the IPL and similar competitions throughout the cricket-playing countries,   To get into the IPL in particular players can get rich in a few years - but only top performers on national level succeeds in that/    You know that  since SA selections are not based on merit  to get into the Proteas team is more difficult and a dicey situation to bet on from a career perspective, 

There is not enough money in provincial cricket to ensure lasting  financial well-being. 

Linde is the better all-rounder.

A better version of Symcox. Much better actually.

Have been following this T20 challenge.

Markram and Rickleton are the biggest disappointments so far.

A few sparks aside, the batting has been terrible. 

Some of the shot selections are schoolboy stuff. Some of the bowling is club level.