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A few very simple numbers for the anti vaccination crowd

Started by Mozart15 REPLIES439 VIEWS· 19 Jul 2021, 16:01
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Jul 2021, 16:01
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19 Jul 2021, 16:01#1

Nationwide, more than 99 percent of recent deaths have occurred among unvaccinated people, and more than 97 percent of recent hospitalizations have occurred among the unvaccinated, according to the C.D.C. “Look,” President Biden said on Friday, “the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated.”


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Stick with moz.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Jul 2021, 16:32
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19 Jul 2021, 16:32#2

Hahahahhahahahahahaha very funny Mozzzz. Go and read my post about vaccine induced deaths exceeding Covid deaths based on Vaers/ CDC figures.

I do trust your judgement is not being affected by by the synthetic spiked protein penetrating the brain barrier. 

What don't you get about the 11,140 deaths and the VAERs system possibly reporting as little as 1% of adverse events etc

Time you woke up. Or are you covering up for your globalist pals?

Better just stick to trashing Du Toit as at least that doesn't lead to unnecessary deaths.

No more BS please Dr Mozzzzzzzzzz



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Jul 2021, 17:14
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19 Jul 2021, 17:14#3

HasBeen the data comes from the CDC….the only credible data source, cherry picked by all your nutters.

The flashing  red number is 99% of deaths have occurred among the unvaccinated. And 50% of the US population is now fully vaccinated….which means the right number for the vaccinated would be 50% of those dying if the vaccine didn’t work. It’s 1%.

Get your vaccine.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
19 Jul 2021, 17:15
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19 Jul 2021, 17:15#4

Time you woke up. Or are you covering up for your globalist pals?

The cheque from George Soros arrived in the mail, so now Moz is a payed up member of the radical globalist left secretly ushering in a Marxist world government that's somehow achieved via vaccinations.


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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
19 Jul 2021, 17:54
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19 Jul 2021, 17:54#5
The anti-vaxxers protested about lockdowns. Now they are almost finished, they will have nothing to complain about. Life must go on. It is time for herd immunity - either through the vaccine or the disease. Many people who are vaccinated will be asymptomatic- so the actual daily infections will be much higher than what is reported. 

There is no doubt a link between anti-vax and religion. 
A simple deduction because most anti-vaxxers are religious. 
The Church(es) are spreading misinformation and disinformation, even though the Catholic Pope has recommended getting vaccinated. 


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Jul 2021, 19:48
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19 Jul 2021, 19:48#6

"The Church(es) are spreading misinformation and disinformation, even though the Catholic Pope has recommended getting vaccinated. 


They are? Link please Snarkhole.

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
19 Jul 2021, 20:09
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19 Jul 2021, 20:09#7

I don't have a link, you can refer to Beeno's ramblings for more detail. I have posted a link below where you can find many conversations about the Religious babble being anti-vaxxer etc. 

Why are Anti-Vaxxers Religious?

Nearly every anti-vaxxer also happens to be a Christian fighting the holy war against the Globalists. Good vs Evil. That cant is a coincidence.

Nowadays, the Church is known as a habitat for less educated people or/and third world people, etc. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Jul 2021, 20:37
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19 Jul 2021, 20:37#8

Opinion bla, bla bla...you do know it's still an experimental vax during trial?...you do know what that means?

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
19 Jul 2021, 21:15
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19 Jul 2021, 21:15#9
Again, it is primarily the Christians who are anti-vaxxers. 
If the Church was more than useless, it would be telling its follower to get vaccinated.
The funny thing is that all the smart people in the Church will have already been vaccinated. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Jul 2021, 21:18
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19 Jul 2021, 21:18#10

FFS can we just deal with data. Nowhere in the gospels does it say don’t get vaccinated. In fact if you can find the word vaccine in the Bible I’ll give you a banana.

These vaccines were produced quickly for sure. But maybe the old tedious slow production of vaccines is the thing at fault. What Einstein law says it has to take three years.

Trump sussed that out and demanded fast action. We got it and now have these vaccines which have been taken in the hundreds of millions. Yes there a few rare cases out there of people with an adverse effect. But the risk of that is minuscule compared to the risk of dying of Covid.

The more people wait the more Indias and Indonesias we will have. Each with the risk of generating a variant which pivots away from the vaccines.

Think of the covid world as South America when Europeans arrived….totally unprotected against diseases kids shake off over night. It’s totally nuts to refuse protection.

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
19 Jul 2021, 21:43
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19 Jul 2021, 21:43#11

It is nuts, but why are the people nuts?
It is a no-brainer. Are the people dumb, or is there some inert reason?

All new drugs (including vaccines) go through the same approval process. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Jul 2021, 06:20
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20 Jul 2021, 06:20#12

"All new drugs (including vaccines) go through the same approval process. "

Whatever for?...but the covid vaccines have been fast tracked for obvious reasons...what could go wron?

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
20 Jul 2021, 14:06
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20 Jul 2021, 14:06#13

For me, I'm happy with the figures as they stand.

But I'm still on the fence in terms of what they'll look like in a year or three.

Hopefully, the vaccines do work out and there are no long term side effects.

Until some time has passed, I can't say I'm happy to take it.

...And I do understand that if there were more people like me then the virus would have more opportunity to mutate.

Honestly, I feel a bit shitty about the stance I'm taking and I tend to over think things but at the same time, I'm not comfortable just yet to declare the vaccines safe in the long run.

It's weird because in an emergency or if a friend's in danger, I've never hesitated to take a risk. But here's something that I've had much time to think about and yet I'm not happy with either side of the fork in the road ahead of me.

I think you're kinda in the same boat, Draad?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Jul 2021, 20:20
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20 Jul 2021, 20:20#14

Yes Plum, I'm by no means an anti vaxer, but when this whole thing started, they told us it will take years to develop a safe vax, niw they supposedly made a handfull in less tban a year? And they are pushing hard for it, while heavily downplaying the possible side effects?

I've had covide once, without too much trouble...as did you...I'd rather deal with it again than dealing with the unknown fallout from an experimental vax in a few years...I can't understand the fearmongering BS at all. Everybody turned into quivering pansies overnight...WTF? ...

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
20 Jul 2021, 20:33
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20 Jul 2021, 20:33#15
If we could inject the anti-vaxxers with Covid instead of the vaccine, would that be better? 
Rounded up into a field to achieve herd immunity in one go. 
It is nonsense that "they" said it would take years to make a vaccine. They made the vaccine in a few months. It then took extra months to go through very extensive testing on volunteers. Manufacturing had already started before approval to speed things up. 

If it was tested on people in jail (E.g. prisoners with 10-life sentences) using a challenge test, the vaccine could have been ready in months. 

The volunteers are heroes, and the anti-vaxxers are zero's 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Jul 2021, 20:51
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20 Jul 2021, 20:51#16

"It is nonsense that "they" said it would take years to make a vaccine."

No it's not.

....and, yes, at this stage I'd rather be purposely infected by a mild covid strain like the Delta variant instead of getting the jab...and then another jab, and then another....without knowing the long term side effects. 

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