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A Massive Covid Wave in Germany and Central Europe Despite High Vaccination

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Nov 2021, 14:50
#1
29 Nov 2021, 14:50#1

I WILL HAVE THAT JACKSS MOZZZ SPINNING LIKE ATOP BEFORE I AM DONE.


Reviewing Europe’s current Covid statistics one cannot but shudder. It is now clear that an enormous, record-breaking Covid wave is making its way through Germany and central Europe. Astoundingly enough, this is happening on the continent where many countries boast vaccine uptake between 65 and 70% of the total population.

Less than a year ago, Dr. Anthony Fauci stated that an inoculation rate between 60 and 70 percent would bring about herd immunity. According to a report from Axios which was published on December 25 of last year:

“Dr. Anthony Fauci has long cited 60% to 70% as the level of COVID infection/vaccination the country would need to achieve herd immunity — for the disease to fade and life to return to normal…”

Most countries in Europe now fall well within that range on the vaccination count alone.

The effect of the vaccines is further augmented by natural immunity which, according to some experts, may run as high as 50% in some populations. Nearly two years into the pandemic, people in many places have been extensively exposed to the virus and as a result possess natural antibodies. Therefore, inoculating, let’s say, 65 percent of the population with a good vaccine should result in overall immunity in the region of 80 percent. With this kind of immunity levels we should expect, if not elimination of the disease, then certainly a considerable decline in its occurrence.

It is, however, now amply clear that despite its high vaccination ratios Europe is nowhere close to achieving the promised relief. Not only that, but things are, in fact, much worse than they were at this time last year when there were no vaccines around.

Even though we do not know the exact threshold required for herd immunity against Covid 19, one thing is certain. If the vaccines worked the pandemic should be now largely under control, given Europe’s high vaccine uptake. Unfortunately, the opposite is the case.  Even as we speak, Germany and central Europe are in the grip of the worst wave since the beginning of the pandemic. This wave is likely to travel further and sweep through other parts of the old continent.

We will show you the reality of the situation by presenting the relevant data in an easy-to-see, straightforward way. We do this by juxtaposing graphs that depict vaccination rates with graphs that show case rates in the countries we discuss.

Neither side in the vaccine debate would dispute the validity of the data presented below. The data is taken from the Google Coronavirus Statistics tool which draws its material from official sources and government databases. The data is publicly available and widely accessible. If you wish to verify or reproduce the data used in this piece, you can do so easily by going to google.com and typing “coronavirus” plus the name of the country whose statistics you want to examine. Once the country’s data comes up, you can choose in the horizontal menu that appears under the term “Statistics” what type of date you want to see: “New Cases” or “Vaccinations.”

Germany

As of November 25, Germany’s full vaccination rate stood at 68.1 percent while more than 70% of the population have received at least one dose.


Despite the vaccination rate that should have brought about herd immunity in that nation, Germany is suffering record case counts. On November 24, the country posted 79,051 new cases, topping by more than 50% the previous record of 45,333 set on January 7. It is highly revealing that the nation’s vaccination rate then stood at 0 percent. Germany’s seventy percent vax uptake not only failed to tame the pandemic, but it coincides with its worst case figures since the start of the pandemic.ARE YOU GETTING A GLIMMER OAKS! 


NOW OAKS PLEASE O TO THIS WEBSITE AND TAKE ALOOK WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN AHOST OF HIGHLY VACCINATED COUNTRIES AFTER THE VAXX WERE BROUGHT IN.

VAXX DISASTER

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Nov 2021, 12:57
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30 Nov 2021, 12:57#2

Hey mozzzz what's your spin on this?

Did you look at the graphs for the rest of the countries?

Please stop talking nonsense about the effectiveness of jabs or how safe they are. 

Thanks 

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
30 Nov 2021, 13:56
#3
30 Nov 2021, 13:56#3

Moz made a fair point that there are fewer restrictions in place now that at the midst of the pandemic. If it accounts for this spike, who knows, but it has to be considered as part of the equation.

I do think the world should stop worrying about infections and focus on severity of symptoms. If a million people a day get infected with only mild symptoms we don't have a problem, everyone is just building immunity then.

But yeah, the vaccines doesn't prevent you from getting the disease, it just helps you fight it better. So it's only logical that you can still spread it even if you're vaccinated. Lots of asymptomatic carriers now.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
30 Nov 2021, 15:36
#4
30 Nov 2021, 15:36#4
I’m no virologist but have been saying since day one that the majority of the focus should have been on the groups that are most vulnerable while disruption to everyone else should be kept to the barest of bare minimums. Instead we made kids wear masks to to school, locked down entire countries, racked up national debt and made this about politics and control. Politicians and media are not your friends. They’re bloody scumbags. All of them. When the world should have come together to protect the vulnerable it was instead turned into a circus. Again, it was small independent media that was calling for calm and time after time making calls that turned out to be correct. How strange, when you consider their budget and the fact they didn’t have massive think tanks directing them. Truth is, it had nothing to do with think tanks and everything to do with profitable affiliations. It’s disgusting to see how people’s fears have been preyed upon purely for power and monetary gain. The simple answer as to why Africa has done just as well as anybody else despite not working itself up as much as the developed world, is because most Africans don’t pay much attention to the throughly poisonous media and its lackey politicians. They simply allowed life to go on, whether intentionally or through incompetence, and it worked for them. The bottom line is that this has been an economic disaster and was blown entirely out of proportion from the get go. While these scumbag politicians just can’t wait to threaten the world with carbon taxes, curfews and other restrictions of the most basic of freedoms…we have yet to see our cowardly representatives come together in ANY meaningful way to investigate that bloody lab in Wuhan. What excuse could there possibly be for being as limp wristed when it comes to a potential war crime of proportions not yet seen since the 40s. It would be nice to know that at least few heads will roll once the dust settles but that’ll never happen because the bastards are all playing the same game and cover for each other while distracting the sheep with some unrelated bullshit. Psychopathic elected elites indeed.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Nov 2021, 17:40
#5
30 Nov 2021, 17:40#5

I’ll just post this again:

The gamble is not getting vaccinated. Look at the UK…

May 2020  empty, stadiums, pubs, concert halls no schools/no Delta/no vaccinations…over 1000 deaths  a day.


March 2021….partial engagement, but still empty stadiums etc/full Delta/limited vaccinations over 1500 deaths  a day.


November 2021….full engagement, stadiums packed to the rafters/Delta dominant/extensive vaccinations.…..less than 200 deaths a day 

…..the numbers can’t be clearer.

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
30 Nov 2021, 18:14
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30 Nov 2021, 18:14#6
The bigger question is why do folks make this such a political issue rather than ensuring that the fragile folks are looked after.
Always about politics such as in Cuomo`s case for instance.He took advantage of the elderly (the most fragile)  to claim political points to support his eventual political ambition of running for President, his distorted version of his claim to fame for his Covid plan and then to add insult to injury his famous `Book Deal``.
Shocking that we allow such a low life into any office.
When is China going to be held to account for this man made criminal humane and commercial disaster which is world wide plus the criminals who sponsored this type of medical experiments.
That includes the so called `Science Doctors` in the USA who made funds available for this type of experiment.
Who in their right mind would first think up such an experiment and secondly and then go ahead and trust CHINA to carry out the research.
Either they were on the take or seeking fame as MAD Scientists.
Seeking a Nobel Prize perhaps.
They should all be held to account and shot at dawn.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Nov 2021, 22:11
#7
30 Nov 2021, 22:11#7

I agree with those sentiments AJ …..experimenting on these dangerous viruses should require rigorous justification and constant review. This was always going to happen at some point.

Trump should be nominated for the Nobel Prize for pushing the vaccines….he has saved countless lives.

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