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A question for consideration - how did Obama helped along ISIS in Iraq and Biden did help the Taliban

Started by clevermike2 REPLIES525 VIEWS· 24 Aug 2021, 15:37
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2021, 15:38
#1
24 Aug 2021, 15:38#1

There si no way that Obama fucked up badly in Iraq and Biden in Afghanistan - so lets go into details.

Iraq an Obama

In 2012 the biggest idiot bar Biden - Obama - decided to withdraw all US troops from Iran.   As the US troops trolled out of Iraq - ISIS rolled in and it was clear that ISIS would capture southern Iraq and the problem they would have was to capture the Kurdish controlled area and they established their Caliphate.   

Does anybody knows what Caliph means in Islamic religion - it means Mohammed's successor  direct contact with Mohammed,   .

After chaos took over in Baghdad Obama decided eh has to do something - he sent  in 200 advisors to help the Iraq army in beating back the ISIS attacks  - with strict instructions that the US army personnel shall not be involved in fighting.   So on roll ISIS to capture Baghdad.

Lucky for some Iraqi's Trump took over - send troops to Iraq instructing them to wipe out ISIS in both Iraq and Syria,   The caliph is found hiding in Northern Syria and found there  a horrible and cowardly death,   

As bad as ISIS were so bad is the Iran terrorists fighting surrogate wars in  Syria. Yemen and Iraq,   The Iran Terrorist chief was  General Soleimane - hated by the people of Iran for his cruelty - Trump decided  that Soleimane had enough blood on his hands back in Iraq to co-ordinate the terrorist army.   So the US informant found out about his presence and he got blown up and died,  Their poor dear  so the Democrats went in mourning because their brother in arms in terrorism  was no more.      

OBAMA FLOPPED HORRIBLY  BADLY IN IRAQ,   

Afghanistan

Trump knew that Obama made a royal f#ck-up  so he knew that any withdrawal should be carefully planned and that their must be a clear understanding iro all parties concerned and must be one in close liaison with allies still having troops in Afghanistan.   

So what did the planning process entail:-

*   A ceasefire  agreement between the then Afghan government  and the Taliban - facilitated by the Trump Administration that must be complied to by both parties with the threat that any breaking of the agreement  will be punished and wiped out of existence of the party who breached the agreement;

*   A withdrawal agreement signed by the US Government.  The Afghan Government and the Taliban - with the same punishment threat as was the case in the other agreement - and  with the support of  the  other allies of the USA with interests in Afghanistan - eg the UK and some EU countries,  There were no objections from the allies at all.   

The withdrawals started and by the time Biden took over the Presidency there were still some 2,500 soldiers left in the  whole of Afghanistan.    So how did Biden managed  to fuck up the process totally?    So Biden decided to withdraw all foreign troops from Afghanistan and the first to go were the Germans.   They did what was expected  from them - they sent the German  citizens still in the area and the Afghans working for them  together with all the excess armaments out of the country.    Then finally they withdrew their troops and  what happened should have been a warning to Biden the Taliban attacked and occupied the city where the Germans were stationed without the punishment they were afraid of should it happen outside of the Armistice Agreement.  They were not punished for doing it as they would have been under a decent and real President.   As it was it was a stupid spineless idiot in charge in Washington.

 So next was the withdrawal of the 2 500 Americans - most of whom were stationed at the Bagram base at Kabul.   There were no co-ordination with the Afghan army, while the Taliban breached the armistice agreement without any punitive action  being taken by Biden was nearing Kabul.    Without even informing the Afghan personnel  they were leaving the US soldiers left the base in the middle of the night and the next morning when the  Afghans arrived they found the base empty  with the prison on site open and the prisoners gone - but even more importantly with all the heavy armament equipment  together with all the rockets and ammunition left behind.   

Although warned Biden did not take away all the US citizens before the troop departure and did not ensure that the equipment of the US Army be removed and taken away or destroyed the Taliban now has the best armed army in central Asia.  Worst still he left the people that worked together with the Americans for 20 years behind for them and their families to be slaughtered.   

When realized he made a real  fuck up Biden with the media and even the Democrats screaming at him sent back 6 000 soldiers to Kabul Airport, while the German, French and UK Governments  sent in small army specialist groups to the airport.    Unlike the Americans the said Governments knew exactly where their citizens were and how many the were  as well as collecting threatened Afghans working with them - they send army personnel  into Kabul to fetch their citizens and refugees and the Taliban did not interfere with them.   

Unlike the USA to this day they do not know how many USA citizens are still in Afghanistan - neither do they know where they are.    They did not know how many refugees - ie Afghans who worked with the USA - there are and where they are.    So instead of sending out army units like the other mentioned nations did to fetch their citizens and refugees to the airport  - they told the citizens they could get hold of that they must find their way to the Kabul airport on their own.   The Al Qaeda elements saw their chance for revenge and they beat up some citizens and refugees and did not allow them through - while killing some of the  Afghans who worked for the US Government by firing squads.  

If ever their was a total fuck up made by any President of the USA with bloody consequences it was made by Biden and his woke administration - they were gutless and proper organization was non-existent.   So what else is  bad - the Americans must now plead with the Taliban to let people get to the airport.  Obama's flop in Iraq was terrible - the Biden catastrophe was total and nobody in the world - bar brainwashed idiots - now believe that the USA  would live up to any undertakings provided by them. 

 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Aug 2021, 20:35
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24 Aug 2021, 20:35#2
Fool me once...all that equipment...no logic in it...
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Aug 2021, 08:41
#3
25 Aug 2021, 08:41#3

Getting worse by the hour - the Taliban told the US to get out of Afghanistan by 31 August 2021  - the date Biden  claimed he set - but it seems that the Taliban gave him the date - and Biden is now starting to withdraw the  troops from Kabul airport.     In other words Biden is now claiming that the American citizens  who wanted to leave  have all left already - the rest is happy to remain in Afghanistan.    .       

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