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Another double-negative?

Started by Koos Kombuis29 REPLIES992 VIEWS· 25 Jul 2018, 09:13
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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
25 Jul 2018, 09:13
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25 Jul 2018, 09:13#1

We already know that Trump started an affair with former Playboy model Karen McDougal back in 2006 shortly after Melanoma gave birth (what an upstanding guy and model husband our Donald is) and now - predictably - he's lying through his teeth again after his former lawyer called his bluff and released a recording of their damage-control discussions.


In the recording Trump says "pay cash" but his new lawyer (long-time Trump apologist and asslicker Rudy Guliani) is now claiming Trump said the opposite: "don't pay cash". Sounds like another one of those "double-negative" things that the rest of us are all too stupid to understand.


When is this vain, bloated and repulsive human being going to man up and take some responsibility for his actions? 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Jul 2018, 09:30
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25 Jul 2018, 09:30#2
“When is this vain, bloated and repulsive human being going to man up and take some responsibility for his actions? ” Probably shortly after the likes of Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Loretta Lynch, James Comey, et al have done the same.
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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
25 Jul 2018, 09:43
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25 Jul 2018, 09:43#3
I see, so basically what you're saying is that Trump is exempt from criticism and accountability until all the bad people in the world have paid for their sins?
Bit of an immature and childish view in my opinion but far be it from me to judge.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Jul 2018, 10:13
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25 Jul 2018, 10:13#4
No. That’s not what I’m saying. It is a matter of casting the first stone. Those who are wanting Trump to fail are the ones who are forgetting a few details. Whatever he is (currently) accused of are all that things that happened way before he became president. The USA is an a much better “place” than it has been for ages. He has done nothing that has harmed the USA, or the world, for that matter. The same people who are wanting his head on a platter are the ones who turned a blind eye when Obama sneaked through his Obama Care and when the Clintons were involved with shady uranium deals with...... wait for it...... Russia and when Obama was caught (on a hot mic ) colluding with.... wait for it... Russia and when the ATF were involved with gun running into Mexico with the full knowledge of AG Eric Holder - the same guns that were used when ATF agent Terry was killed in a battle with Mexican drug lords and when the Flint community was poisoned due to water contamination and when billions of dollars were handed to Iran in cash and and and. I could keep you busy with a hell of a long list. And then there were, of course, all the crap surrounding the Clintons and the Clinton foundation and the leaks of sensitive information that lead to the endangerment of CIA personnel all over the world, etc, all of which would have been swept under the carpet, had Hillary won the election.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:09
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25 Jul 2018, 11:09#5

KKK you ignorant pratt, America didn't vote in a saint they voted in a street brawler who would fight for them. That is why President Trump is at his highest approval rating ever.

You double standards are appalling, what a stinking hypocrite you are. 

Also bear in mind that politician pay these accusers to remain silent even if they are innocent due. Trump lawyer Guiliani however says no payment was made.

Then think of how this information was obtained - a total disgrace.

Ou rooitwit is so bent he has no clue whatsoever! 



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:09
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25 Jul 2018, 11:09#6

Vlag, you are either going to be labeled a right wing nutter, a conspiracy theorist or,.....wait for it...a Russian bot, for asking these questions.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:14
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25 Jul 2018, 11:14#7

Windpomp the Clintons are the most corrupt politicians along with Obummer ever experienced in America . Their actions were treasonous and they must be held to account.

Ou rootwit as usual is making a complete JACKASS of himself. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:15
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25 Jul 2018, 11:15#8

Hey rooitwit that Jackass would make a nice avatar for you!

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:25
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25 Jul 2018, 11:25#9
This is the thing, Draad. I don’t give a crap about how I am labbled. I’m true to myself and I know who I am. What I have learnt from this whole story is not based on opinions inthe media. I have watched and sat through the congressional hearings on all those issues that I listed. All of them and not only small YouTube snippets of it. I watched the entire hearings and have listened to the questions asked by both sides of the isle, Democrat and Republican and I have formed my own opinion. I do not trust the media. If, by leaning towards conservative, I’m conceived as being a right winger, than so be it. I am not a blind Trump supporter but I can understand what he is trying to do in both the world and the USA and the irony is that he is more principled than what many would like to believe. You can do your own searches on YouTube and listened to interviews with him as far back as the eighties and compare it to what he is doing. Strange as it may seem, in those days he was asked (in almost) every interview, why he didn’t stand for president. His answer had always been that he was enjoying his job and there had to be someone who could be a successful president. There is an almost 60 minute clip where he was interviewed by congress where they questioned him on advice about the economy. I will see if I can get the link again and post it.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:27
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:29
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:31
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:33
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:36
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:41
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:42
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:43
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 11:45
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Well just thought i would give you some idea of how a jackass like ou rooitwit thinks. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha Lots more where this came from!

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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
25 Jul 2018, 12:38
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25 Jul 2018, 12:38#19
Careful there Cloudy, the Trumpanzees are basically saying we're not allowed to dislike Trump for being a misogynistic, rude, vain and self-serving liar because Obama once said this or did that.
My concerns are around the incompetent and egotistical clown in the Whitehouse today, not his predecessor or Richard Nixon or Abe Lincoln or whoever and I am with you 100% . . . Trump is a disgusting excuse for a man. The absolute pits.
Cue the Trumpanzees with their plaintive "Obama did this" or "Hillary said that" whining.
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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
25 Jul 2018, 12:53
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25 Jul 2018, 12:53#20
Looks like Ivanka Trump is following in Daddy's footsteps as her failing fashion retail business closes down before it goes bankrupt.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Jul 2018, 13:20
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25 Jul 2018, 13:20#21

Uhmmmm, so no bases for saying that Trump is mysogynistic, rude, vain, lying, incompetant, egotistical, etc. Just plain accusations, and he has done nothing for America.

He has always only had a few things on his mind as far as the USA is concerned. Look at the facts like the economy, unemployment, the shapeup of NATO, etc.

Of course his distractors would say that the NATO thing was BS and then would expect the USA to keep on funding the protection of Europe while they are doing bugger all themselves.

His distractors were up in arms over his aproach to the Paris agreement. An agreement where the USA, once again, was the main contributor into a pit of funds with no end purpose. No punative actions against those who violate the agreement or fail to pay their contributions. In addition, the worst  offenders in the agreement were the ones excempted from the terms of the agreement as well as the funding of the agreement, i.e. (among others) India and China.

His distractors were up in arms over his withdrawal from the Iran Deal. He was against the terms of the deal and wanted it renegotiated. Billions of US Dollars in hard cash were litterally flown into Iran under the deal. Iran were allowed to continue their nuclear armement under cover. They were allowed to continue to fund ISIS, etc.

Why should we not explore previous administrations in evaluating Trump?

Once again, I have not called anybody any names becaue of their dislike for Trump. I have just taken note of the opinions of others and gave my opinion based on my own observations. If that makes me a Trumpanzee, then so be it.it.

Then again.... if what Trump is doing exonerates any of his predecessors of any wrong doing then there is something seriously wrong somewhere.

This is the irony. In an interview a few days ago Rep Matt Gaetz (R) was interviewed and asked about something Rep Adam Schiff (D) said about (IIRC) the declassifying of FISA warants. Schiff, himself, proposed legislation to declassify information regarding the handling of FISA warants. He (Gaetz) supported it. The legislation wasn't passed by Congress. When the latest saga started unfolding around the current debate into the FISA warrants in the Trump/Russia saga Gaetz, once again, saught to introduce the same legislation that Schiff proposed some time ago. This time, though, Schiff refused to support the exact same legislation that he himself put forward back then. This just to illustrate that somehow, what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander as well.

Peace.

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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
25 Jul 2018, 13:57
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25 Jul 2018, 13:57#22
Let's all hope it's just the one term he's judged on.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Jul 2018, 14:05
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25 Jul 2018, 14:05#23

I am not going to go into the debate over his personality and/or behaviour but I will leave you with this, and it is my opinion based, once again on my own observations and misstrust in the media. The media, IMO, has totally lost the plot. They have forgotten that they have an important role, i.e. to convey the facts and not opinions and to provide oversight over govt and to do it objectively. Instead they have become invloved in political manipulation. This is the contents of emails sent to and from the Hillary campaign manager, John Podesta:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/59194

Hope you're both well. Amy Chozick and I are doing a story about how the > Clinton campaign and its supporters view Trump as a general election > opponent and plan to run against him. The story will run in tomorrow's > paper. > > One part of the story deals with how Secretary Clinton, President Clinton, > President Obama, and other Dems regard Trump as a potential general > election opponent. > > I wanted to run some points by you about President Clinton, based on our > reporting with allies and campaign advisers and other Dems who have spoken > to him. > > We're told that President Clinton (like Mrs. Clinton and some other Dems) > thinks that Trump would be a formidable opponent in the general election, > and that Dems are in a form of denial if they dismiss Trump as a joke who > would be easily defeated in November. President Clinton, like others, > thinks that Trump has his finger on the pulse of the electorate's mood and > that only a well-financed, concerted campaign portrayed him as dangerous > and bigoted will win what both Clintons believe will be a close November > election. > > We're told that President Clinton (like Mrs. Clinton and many other Dems) > thinks the single greatest weapon against Trump is Trump's own instinct to > make outrageous, divisive, even hateful comments that can come across as > unpresidential. He, Mrs. Clinton, and the campaign all agree that they will > need to seize on opportunities to paint Trump as extremist and recklessly > impulsive. > > > > We're told that President Clinton, like Secretary Clinton and some others, > think Trump could pose a real threat in battleground states that President > Obama carried in 2008 and 2012 -- like Virginia and Ohio -- and he will be > competitive in Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. > > We're also told that the campaign intends to unleash President Clinton on > social media and the campaign trail when Trump lashes out/tries to sway the > news cycle.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Jul 2018, 14:25
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25 Jul 2018, 14:25#24
Rudy is actually a very pleasant man....just saying.
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Koos KombuisClub Pro409 posts
25 Jul 2018, 15:00
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25 Jul 2018, 15:00#25
So it's full circle and we're back to saying it's all the fault of the naughty media.
Trump himself said recently that we should not believe what we see and read. That's actually a relief because what I'm seeing and reading is that the clown in charge of the most powerful nation on earth is a weak, vain, self-serving and dishonest womanizer who bullies and threatens his allies while sucking up shamelessly to his enemies.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Jul 2018, 15:29
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25 Jul 2018, 15:29#26
“So it's full circle and we're back to saying it's all the fault of the naughty media.” As I said. I don’t trust the media. I also do not blame them. They report on what they are fed and where the media bosses’ sentiments lie. I responded to what I have read in those leaked emails where they declared their MO and the media have reported on it. The very same media who had no issues with previous administrations doing exactly what they are accusing Trump of. Cue the pictures published about the kids who were detained in cages which turned out to have been taken even before Trump ran for president. And the media narrative.......? “Look at this filthy Trump fucker who detain kids in cages”. And the whole world sucked it up and are still sucking up to it.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Jul 2018, 15:52
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25 Jul 2018, 15:52#27
What is truly amazing is that these ant Trump nutcases must know that Trump is destroying the Globalist NWO and hence the 24/7 vitriol against him. They have to know that an unprecedented smear campaign is going on and they have to know how many times the MSM has lied and got it wrong.YET they still believe the never ending propaganda. How gullible can one get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! President trump has a very likable personality that resonates with the American voter - watch hvs rallies and his speeches. He loves the country with a passion and fights as hard as one man can to MAGA! What i am seeing are more and more are comments saying he is the greatest president in American history. Certainly he is the first president since Reagan to put America first. Trump arrived in the nick of time.The kiwis will doubtless carry on in their own way not knowing they have been lead by the nose by the Globalist MSM propaganda. Their heads are fully of globalist BS. When Will they wake up!!!!
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Jul 2018, 15:54
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25 Jul 2018, 15:54#28

Sorry but am I the only one that thinks that's just not a good look for a president? 

No you are not, it's disgusting how little respect he has for the opposite sex. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Jul 2018, 17:22
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25 Jul 2018, 17:22#29

Article

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Jul 2018, 20:25
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25 Jul 2018, 20:25#30
Trump has one quality which in a president makes up for many sins.....he is a patriot....the majority of people understand he is working in their interests. That creates a lot of trust, especially after Obama whose own internal job description was more likely to have the word 'world' in it, rather than America.
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