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Any update on the invasion?

Started by Rooinek27 REPLIES868 VIEWS· 13 Nov 2018, 07:29
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 Nov 2018, 07:29
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13 Nov 2018, 07:29#1

Must say, things seem to have gone awfully quiet on the Caravan invasion?

You'd think the invasion of a sovereign state - especially a really big powerful one like the USA - would still be all over the front pages of every newspaper in the world but there hasn't been a peep about it since . . . hmmmm . . . when was it now . . . oh yes, not a mention of the caravan since the Midterms!

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha!

The gullible Trumpanzees on this board bought into this blatant political stunt hook, line, sinker, reel, rod, fisherman, jetty, beach, coastline and seaboard!

LMAO!



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bluebokPro3,977 posts
13 Nov 2018, 10:43
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13 Nov 2018, 10:43#2
Of course they have gone away. The elections are over. 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 Nov 2018, 11:56
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13 Nov 2018, 11:56#3
Talking of behaviou r changes before and after the midterms, has anyone else noticed how scarce Baboon-ou has been in these parts since the Republicans lost the House?
I wonder if he's sulking or if he's got a new tyre swing in his enclosure that's taking up all his time?
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
13 Nov 2018, 12:41
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13 Nov 2018, 12:41#4
Ah Rooiter, always amuzing! 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 Nov 2018, 14:45
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13 Nov 2018, 14:45#5
I do worry about Baboon-ou when he goes AWOL. I hope he wasn't left unsupervised near electricity or something like that.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Nov 2018, 17:28
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13 Nov 2018, 17:28#6

Well I actually did mention that the whole "Caravan" thing was fishy and not normal...and a way to shine a light on emigration reform. I suspected the Dems to have a hand in it too....we'll still see.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 Nov 2018, 20:41
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13 Nov 2018, 20:41#7
The crimson-faced fool who was telling us that they need 15000 soldiers to protect the Mexican border pipes up.
LMAO!
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sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
13 Nov 2018, 21:02
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13 Nov 2018, 21:02#8
Beeno has been put back in his cage with an ankle tag. Hopefully he will be released for a short while towards the end of the week. 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 Nov 2018, 21:06
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13 Nov 2018, 21:06#9
When you say "released" I trust you mean that his leash is extended far enough that he can reach the keyboard.
The idea of Baboon-ou on the loose is pretty scary!
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sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
13 Nov 2018, 21:15
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13 Nov 2018, 21:15#10
It is an electronic tag, so they can monitor his whereabouts. 
Beeno sporting his new shoes.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 Nov 2018, 21:16
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13 Nov 2018, 21:16#11
Whew!
I was a bit worried there for a sec.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Nov 2018, 16:18
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19 Nov 2018, 16:18#12

I just watched Sky News and about 10 000 migrants arrived on the US border near Tijuana and there are two other caravans moving nearer to the border.   Does not look good since it is developing into a humanitarian crisis.    


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Nov 2018, 21:08
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19 Nov 2018, 21:08#13
So they have gone away Bloo.....man you are easily led. But while you are grovelling to Koos, ask him how to spell amuzing (sic).
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Nov 2018, 06:36
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20 Nov 2018, 06:36#14
Demonstrations in Tijuana as the Caravan arrives....Mexican protestors saying Donald Trump is right. And the mayor says 'it's an avalanche' as 3000 migrants arrive....with 500 plus criminals already identified in the Caravans comprised of mostly young men. So much for Actaully Currie Cuo and Blue Blockhead, experts on American border politics operating from Benoni. LMAOFY!
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
20 Nov 2018, 08:52
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20 Nov 2018, 08:52#15
Ag Moz, now I am team Rooiter? I've been accused of being on your team, Mike's team, Rooi's team etc etc! The moment I disagree with something someone says, I am siding with the enemy. Oh well, I will still formulate my own opinions, regardless of which poor sensitive souls may be offended by them. 
I'll keep it simple, Trump was using the caravan as a election tool. With the election done and dusted he has gone quiet on the matter. Nobody said the caravan no longer existed. But fair enough, my comment could have been interpenetrated two ways. By "they" I was referring to the headlines, the tweets and the constant media attention surrounding the caravan. I have never claimed to be as eloquent as you and Rooiter with the taal, but that was my intended meaning. If you don't believe me. Then you don't believe me.   
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Nov 2018, 16:09
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20 Nov 2018, 16:09#16
Okay nice response Bloo. The point I would make is there is a lot of real news on Trump's side that never gets beyond the country....your sources are biased. Take the whole Russian collusion thing....absolute nonsense, and it's been so effective.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Nov 2018, 14:30
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21 Nov 2018, 14:30#17

The SA news channels rarely deals with USA matters and when they do they have reporters affiliated to US operatives working for the US news agencies in the Anti-Trump camp.   

The main News we get f rom the USA is from -

*   BBC World

*   CNN 

*   Sky News

*   Al Jazeera

So it is inevitable that some of the news available in SA is biased or very biased against Trump. 


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bluebokPro3,977 posts
21 Nov 2018, 17:00
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21 Nov 2018, 17:00#18
If I am entirely honest, most of what I know about the state of the US at the moment, I get from Ruckers forum. I basically never watch Sky, CNN, Fox or any other news channel. If someone posts an article or a news clip here, I normally watch it, but that is about it. In other words, it is the back and forth between you lot that has kept me abreast of developments in the mighty US of A. I have no favourite candidate or party, it actually makes very little difference to my life. I just thought pertinent to put my comments into perspective for anyone that cares. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Nov 2018, 18:12
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21 Nov 2018, 18:12#19

Blue, in the beginning,  I thought Trump's candidacy was a spoof, then I started watching some of the stuff Beenz put on...then I started Googling some news and YouTube for myself. 

At first I thought the whole "Fake News" thing was just propaganda,  untill I noticed how the media were slanting things against him even the SA media on RSG...and I asked why? Why would they be so anti Trump if he was doing such a good job of shooting himself in the foot anyway?...long story short, once you start seeing things, you can't unsee them.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Nov 2018, 18:17
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21 Nov 2018, 18:17#20

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Nov 2018, 21:38
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21 Nov 2018, 21:38#21
I've never been a big follower of US politics until this buffoon became president. A lot of my participation in the Trumpet around Bozo was intended as a counter-balance to the mountains of hogwash that Baboon-ou put up which brainwashed Trumpanzees like Draad, Moffie and Dim-Sum lap up so eagerly.
I don't watch CNN, Sky, BBC or Al Jazeera and I seldom read any newspapers. At least 90% of what I talk about comes from Bozo's Twitter feed and the comments further down each page.
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
22 Nov 2018, 08:51
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22 Nov 2018, 08:51#22
Hahaha. I thought I was going to be lambasted for commenting on a topic in which I only have a passing interest. Glad to see that you guys are also basically just casual observers. Rooiter, that makes perfect sense. Beeno's comments are so ridiculously one sided that I simply stopped reading them all together, until you offered a counter balance.  
I'd like to know from the Trump supporters, do you admit that the Trump camp also enjoys biased media support from numerous news outlets? Yes, there are probably more that are anti-Trump, but that does not change the fact that there are plenty that are pro-Trump. And those that are pro-Trump also show great bias towards him. 
I'd ask the same of the Hillary/Democrat supports here, but to the best of my knowledge, there aren't any.
Just a parting thought, it is clear, in my mind anyway, that the Democrats do enjoy a larger portion of the support from mainstream media than the Republicans do. But I very much believe the Republicans have a much larger support base in big business than the Democrats do. Both are very valuable. One's judgement must not be clouded by the media and bias, and that only the verifiable facts should be used to formulate an opinion. One really needs to ignore all the noise, chest beating and distraction from either side, because it is all steeped in half truths and bias. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Nov 2018, 15:02
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22 Nov 2018, 15:02#23

Blue, the only TV station I know of that is pro Trump is Fox News and they are mostly blind for any Trump negatives. Some of their shows are pure propaganda...the opposite of CNN...Not too many pro Trump Newspapers/Websites....Bbreitbart and New York Post...but I'm not too familiar with US publications. Washington Post, New York and LA Times and Huffington Post are all heavily anti Trump...as are Twitter, Google, Facebook and even Amazon and Netflix.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 Nov 2018, 08:43
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23 Nov 2018, 08:43#24
Bozo is now having a tearful tantrum because of the Court ruling that blocked him from denying asylum to the migrants.
This is after he's spent millions of dollars sending troops to the border and now it's being explained to him that that was all a big waste of time and taxpayers money.
You'd think a "stable genius" with a "very large brain" might have done the tiniest bit of research about how these things work before committing all these troops to the southern border.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Nov 2018, 11:29
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23 Nov 2018, 11:29#25

Rooinek

I do not think there was a court ruling about the border issue - but may be wrong.   There has been a number of decisions of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which was ultimately over-ruled by the US Supreme Court.  I do not know whether that is the case here.

In a way I agree with Trump here - especially since we see virtually daily how the uncontrolled influx of refugees and foreignrs into  SA caused serious problems.   There can never be justification for open borders anywhere, 

  

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 Nov 2018, 11:40
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23 Nov 2018, 11:40#26
"I do not think there was a court ruling about the border issue - but may be wrong."
Click here, or here, or here, or here, or here, or here, or here or just Google it and find any number of other links to the same story.
Ou Maaik, I think it's safe to say that you "may be wrong" on this one.
Oh and no-one is suggesting open borders. This is all about whether these migrants have the right to apply for asylum or not. The judge is saying that as per the Constitution, they do have that right.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Nov 2018, 17:49
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23 Nov 2018, 17:49#27

Rooinek

Is the present situation  "political asylum" or as a means to get into the US illegally.  "Political asylum" relates to people to their safety and treatment in the countries they fled from.

There are indications that most of the "caravans" started in Honduras - which based on the 2017 seems to be a real democracy - with strong opposition parties preventing a government where the rights of people are trampled on.   However, there are serious social problems insofar as crimes and drug trafficking are concerned in Honduras,   

In essence  it is not a county where the situation is such that the term "political asylum" would become applicable.   It is seemingly a weak case and may be overturned on higher court level.   

It is more likely economically-based migration - but there is a high danger of criminals using the caravans to get into the USA.  In a country known as being crime-ridden that is indeed a likelihood I the case of Honduras.

It is highly unlikely that even if the migrants are allowed to submit application for asylum that it would in fact be approved as the basis for seeking political asylum seems to be absent.  

In essence I do not think the caravans should be allowed to enter into the USA and given a chance to merge into the population and become illegal refugees - there are already millions of those in California alone.   Not stopping them would be equivalent to what happened in Europe a few years ago and effectively be an open border situation.

Difficult to deal with as there is a serious possibility of a humanitarian crisis.   That brings me to a question - a caravan like that requires hugh costs in feeding and even transport of people.   Who is funding that lot?                   


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Nov 2018, 22:59
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23 Nov 2018, 22:59#28

Who is funding them indeed, and to what ends?

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