Anyone know

of a single concession made by Putin in the peace negotiations? I don't know of any.....however, I read of several conditional demands by the Russians attached to a peace agreement.

It's been awfully quiet for a while.

Putin is starting to unravel in a way some of us thought he would.

The negotiation are theater, taking place in a parallel world to reality.

I know that the ceasefire iro the Black Sea trade route of Ukraine was a joint proposal of Trump, Starmer and Macron was already agreed to on Monday by all partis concerned and the present negotiatiations entails both ceasfire negotions as to the ceasefire and the ultinate peace treaty at resent contining in Jedda. It is apparent that Putin is making demands to agree on issues that will ultiately be included in the final peace deal and those are very sticky at present.

Trump, Starmer and Macron wants an immediate ceaefire - while Putin wants conditions that would be part of the final peace settlement - making the present negotiaions very difficult and the meeting in Jedda started on Monday and is ongoing at present. Trump is playing hardball and is offering a trade deal between the USA nd Russia in exchange for concessions of Russia on the Ukraine peace deal. So it is now 4 days that the negotiations is ongoing and aside from the Black Sea shipping cease fire issue - nothing is known about therfeal ngotiations taking place now. It is no doubt that Starmer and Macron is keeing informed about what is being discussed - but there has been no announcements on what is going on during the present Jedda negotiations and the media are not aware of what is really happening and the leftist media are writing BS on the issue on a continuous basis.

In my opinion what is going on is really trying to get agreement on the peace deal in place with the joint announcement of the cease-fire being delayed and for the rest the actual peace deal would require more fine print issues and may take a few days longer to be sorted out, According to the actual negotiators invovled - there is other than limie h ints from he actual US negotiation team just no new news coming from the Jedda Conference at present. The final agreements reached at Jedda will then be initialld by the engoitiators and forwarded to Trump, Putin and Zelenskyy to be signed before any formal announcement is amde jointly by the three engotiation participants, Needless to sayTrump will kept Starmer and Macron infomed on the sisue ebfore furher discussions between them and Trump on the issue,

The oher part of the problem is that the negotitiaions are not only dealing with Ukraine - but also with the ME situation - complicating issues even further.

It is funny, liberals are living in denial. It is impressive. It has been stated on this board months ago now that Russia would dictate the terms of the negotiations, which has been happening. Concessions for what? Because DJT's inflated ego wants to sell the picture of a master negotiatior and stuff? Russia will obviously not behave in a liberal way if liberals were in the same position as liberals are used to trying to eliminate other people, therefore looking for destruction when negotiating, Russia will leave stuff around for the opposing side not to feel too much hurt. Yet that is all. Nothing more.