Wow quite a testimony! Folau was castigated for trying to warn various types including gays on how to avoid Hell!
Captain40,032 posts
25 Jun 2019, 13:10
#1
25 Jun 2019, 13:10#1
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Atheist College Professor dies and sees hell and demons. It changed his life, part 1
Started by Beeno114 REPLIES1,171 VIEWS· 25 Jun 2019, 13:10
Captain40,032 posts
25 Jun 2019, 13:30
#2
25 Jun 2019, 13:30#2
Part 2
Pro3,099 posts
25 Jun 2019, 13:35
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25 Jun 2019, 13:35#3
Well thanks Beeno, that's 13 minutes of my life I will never get back.
You call this evidence for god????? prove it, sounds more like a dream or hallucinating from fever/pain
And if he had no sense of time why did he feel he was there for eternity. If he felt that then he had a sense of time/
Also if your a tourist in Paris they will just let you lie there for hours to die, did he not have travel insurance, his wife did nothing to help him, what farkin bullshit. You would have to be a moron to swallow this load of propaganda crap
There have been plenty of cases of people dying and being resuscitated and they say there is nothing, why don't you believe their testimonies
Hell next you will be telling us he is jesus reborn or something
And another thing how does he know he died, like he said there were no bloody doctors there he is just making shit up.
Oh damn he has posted more of this crap, can someone with some intelligence that doesn't have a life watch it and tell me if its just more of the same bullshit or not, I fear I will catch the stupid if I watch anymore of this, don't want to end up with a beeno level of stupid.
Captain18,117 posts
25 Jun 2019, 14:36
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25 Jun 2019, 14:36#4
Oh wow! This changes everything!
I used to be a non-believer but if someone finds a Youtube clip on the internet of some random guy claiming he died and saw the devil then I have to have a serious rethink about everything I've ever believed in.
I have finally seen the light. Hallelujah!
I used to be a non-believer but if someone finds a Youtube clip on the internet of some random guy claiming he died and saw the devil then I have to have a serious rethink about everything I've ever believed in.
I have finally seen the light. Hallelujah!
Pro1,973 posts
25 Jun 2019, 15:03
#5
25 Jun 2019, 15:03#5
Interesting clip this,sounds as if those other figures were demons of a sought.
Many people who do not believe have demon revelations before they die,people around them have noticed the fear as they talked to tho se unseen figures.
Pro3,099 posts
25 Jun 2019, 16:01
#6
25 Jun 2019, 16:01#6
Any stats/evidence to back up your many?
And WTF do you mean by a sought of demon. its a half baked demon or just someone that pissed off. You are talking utter garbage. Admit it even you dont know what your talking about
Love how you just make statements without a shred of evidence as if its a fact.
I am sure everyone endures some fear as they are facing their death, doesn't mean they are seeing bloody demons.
I have figured out why religious people like to make up shit and that's because that's how the bible was invented. If the bible can make up shit then so can its followers, and the followers are doing a magnificent job of it as well
It would be nice for once for someone to come up with one piece of scientific evidence of this god (and no beeno you cretard pseudo science BS is not science)
Captain17,321 posts
25 Jun 2019, 16:42
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25 Jun 2019, 16:42#7
Another charlatan who cashed in bigtime by writing a book for the ever receptive religious market.
Pro1,973 posts
25 Jun 2019, 16:52
#8
25 Jun 2019, 16:52#8
Ole Crusadersfan wants evidence of the spiritual realm again so that he can please his own religion.Suppose he also still wants a first hand experience television replay of Jesus resurrection.............
Pro3,099 posts
25 Jun 2019, 23:54
#9
25 Jun 2019, 23:54#9
I am the fool for wanting some evidence before believing some fairy tale full of outlandish claims?
Shouldn't you be asking yourself why you believe it with no evidence at all
How any sane rational thinking person can just accept the bible as anything other than made up nonsense with no evidence to support any of it is beyond me.
Pro1,973 posts
26 Jun 2019, 08:14
#10
26 Jun 2019, 08:14#10
What evidence do you want that will satisfy your God ideal and in what form or process do you want it?
Pro9,905 posts
26 Jun 2019, 08:23
#11
26 Jun 2019, 08:23#11
In all honesty, I don't believe it.
It goes against scripture and as far as I'm concerned it's a crock of sheeeaaat!!
Pro3,099 posts
26 Jun 2019, 09:25
#12
26 Jun 2019, 09:25#12
I'm not sure what it would take to make me believe but as long as there is no evidence to show that the Christian faith is nothing but fairy tales I will continue to be an Atheist.
Who knows one day I might have an "experience" that you lot always go on about, will it make me a believer I cannot say because some of the stupid reasons people put forward as proof are just people saying I don't know how that could happen so it must be god.
Until your imaginary friend decides to let me know he exists I will continue to be an Atheist.
Captain17,321 posts
26 Jun 2019, 11:54
#13
26 Jun 2019, 11:54#13
It goes against scripture and as far as I'm concerned it's a crock of sheeeaaat!!
Well at least you're sensible about that, CC. The Israelites/Judeans had no concept of a devil or hell until they were exposed to the Persian and Hellenistic belief systems in the last 4 or so centuries BC.
Captain18,117 posts
26 Jun 2019, 13:46
#14
26 Jun 2019, 13:46#14
"What evidence do you want that will satisfy your God ideal and in what form or process do you want it?"
I reckon I'd be convinced if the God of the Old Testament had to make a return and start kicking arse they way he used to back then. Now that was a God to be feared . . . not the weak non-interfering and conflict-avoiding god we have today who is supposedly all-powerful yet watches his people being killed and his churches burnt to the ground and doesn't lift a finger.
Compare this wimp-god we have now with the old iron-fisted God from BC times. People all over the world today fornicate, get drunk, kill, blaspheme, covet their neighbour's cows, make graven images, bear false witness, commit adultery, use the lord's name in vain, mix different cloths together and all sorts of other bad things that God deems taboo . . . and what happens to them? Nothing. No punishment. Well okay, the fornicators might get a sexually transmitted disease, the drunkards get a hangover, the murderers go to jail if they're caught . . . but they're not punished by god. Not like the old God used to punish. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
The old bad-tempered God would rain fire and brimstone on cities if he suspected sinners lived there, he'd smite entire tribes down if they threatened his chosen people and he'd have you stoned to death if you dared to collect firewood on his special day.
A good example is how the God of the Old Testament dealt with a tribe called the Midianites. Now these weren't philistines or anything . . . the Midianites were descended from Abraham and were closely related to the Israelites . . . in fact Moses was even married to a Midianite woman. The Midianites weren't murderers, they didn't take Israelites as slaves and they didn't worship Satan . . . but the Midianites did commit one very grave mistake . . . some of their women seduced a few Israelites. Again, no murder, no torture, no sodomy, no devil worship or anything like that . . . but a few Midianite women seduced a few Israelite soldiers. That was enough to send the old God into a genocidal rage and he ordered the Israelites to kill them all. A complete ethnic cleansing of the entire people as a righteous and just punishment for a few of their women seducing an Israelite or two.
The Israelites went ahead and killed every Midianite man, but they angered God by sparing the women and the children. They returned to Moses with the women and children prisoners and God spoke to Moses who in turn said to them (and I quote from scripture):
Numbers 31: 17-18: “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women-children, that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.”
Let's just be quite clear here . . . God ordered the Israelite soldiers to go back to the terrified women and children and kill every single male child among them, then kill all the girls and women who'd ever slept with a man (quite how the Israelites determined if these girls were virgins or not is not clear) and after they'd killed all the non-virgins, the remaining young girls who were still virgins could be taken to be shared among the Israelite soldiers as spoils of war . . . "keep alive for yourselves."
Where is that God now? As I said before, that was a God to be feared! Bring the old iron-fisted hands-on God back and I'll kneel and tremble before him. I'll be a believer!
I reckon I'd be convinced if the God of the Old Testament had to make a return and start kicking arse they way he used to back then. Now that was a God to be feared . . . not the weak non-interfering and conflict-avoiding god we have today who is supposedly all-powerful yet watches his people being killed and his churches burnt to the ground and doesn't lift a finger.
Compare this wimp-god we have now with the old iron-fisted God from BC times. People all over the world today fornicate, get drunk, kill, blaspheme, covet their neighbour's cows, make graven images, bear false witness, commit adultery, use the lord's name in vain, mix different cloths together and all sorts of other bad things that God deems taboo . . . and what happens to them? Nothing. No punishment. Well okay, the fornicators might get a sexually transmitted disease, the drunkards get a hangover, the murderers go to jail if they're caught . . . but they're not punished by god. Not like the old God used to punish. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
The old bad-tempered God would rain fire and brimstone on cities if he suspected sinners lived there, he'd smite entire tribes down if they threatened his chosen people and he'd have you stoned to death if you dared to collect firewood on his special day.
A good example is how the God of the Old Testament dealt with a tribe called the Midianites. Now these weren't philistines or anything . . . the Midianites were descended from Abraham and were closely related to the Israelites . . . in fact Moses was even married to a Midianite woman. The Midianites weren't murderers, they didn't take Israelites as slaves and they didn't worship Satan . . . but the Midianites did commit one very grave mistake . . . some of their women seduced a few Israelites. Again, no murder, no torture, no sodomy, no devil worship or anything like that . . . but a few Midianite women seduced a few Israelite soldiers. That was enough to send the old God into a genocidal rage and he ordered the Israelites to kill them all. A complete ethnic cleansing of the entire people as a righteous and just punishment for a few of their women seducing an Israelite or two.
The Israelites went ahead and killed every Midianite man, but they angered God by sparing the women and the children. They returned to Moses with the women and children prisoners and God spoke to Moses who in turn said to them (and I quote from scripture):
Numbers 31: 17-18: “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women-children, that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.”
Let's just be quite clear here . . . God ordered the Israelite soldiers to go back to the terrified women and children and kill every single male child among them, then kill all the girls and women who'd ever slept with a man (quite how the Israelites determined if these girls were virgins or not is not clear) and after they'd killed all the non-virgins, the remaining young girls who were still virgins could be taken to be shared among the Israelite soldiers as spoils of war . . . "keep alive for yourselves."
Where is that God now? As I said before, that was a God to be feared! Bring the old iron-fisted hands-on God back and I'll kneel and tremble before him. I'll be a believer!
Pro9,905 posts
26 Jun 2019, 18:14
#15
26 Jun 2019, 18:14#15
Pakie – it’s not that at all. Nowhere in the Bible does it speak of demons torturing men in Hell.
This little clip is a bull shit story to mislead the ignorant. Maybe he wants a movie deal out of his “experience”.
I guarantee you this, that if this liar actually saw what lay beyond the grave, he would not be able to keep his emotions in check. I know a person who was shown something beyond and we couldn’t make out a word she was saying through all the tears for more than a week.
It knocked her socks off and she was never the same again.
He’s a fraud and should be shot at dawn.
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