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Beeno, Trump/s victory has my support but he is not a christian.

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
21 Sept 2017, 16:30
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21 Sept 2017, 16:30#1

If you are a pagan, atheist and unbeliever please don't read this post...ITS NOT FOR YOU...YOUR EYES ARE BLIND AND YOU WON'T UNDERSTAND.



Trump NOT a Christian, and the Difference between Church and State

  Donald Trump is not a morally upright man, and he is certainly not a Christian, despite the breathtakingly foolish statements of such blind leaders of the blind as the likes of James Dobson, who endorsed the claim of heretical female Charismatic false “evangelist”, Paula White, that she “led Trump to the Lord”.[2]  Such abysmal ignorance of what a true Christian is, coming out of the mouths of these false “servants of Christ”!  Do they know nothing of the biblical truth that a tree is known by its fruit?  Do they honestly believe that if a man simply says, “I am a Christian”, we must take his statement at face value?  Evidently they do, and this just shows how deceived they are.  No, Trump is certainly not a Christian.  Nor is he a morally upright man in his personal life.  For this reason many professing Christians felt they could not support him in his bid to be president. 

  But this is to misunderstand the political arena.  The Bible shows us clearly, in such places as the books of Kings and of the prophets, that certain men may be personally immoral, and yet still prove to be sensible political leaders of their country.  And world history bears this out.  A great error made by many professing Christians, the result of false teaching by their shepherds, is that the United States of America is a Christian country, and that other countries are as well.  This is utterly wrong, and to teach such a thing is to confuse the Church with a nation.  It is to confuse the kingdom of God with the kingdoms of this world (Jn. 18:36).  There is no such thing, in truth, as a Christian country.  There may be countries where there are many Christians, or countries where the ruler is a Christian, or countries where the laws are based on biblical principles to a greater or lesser extent.  But none of these things make any country a Christian country.  The only theocracy which God ever had, the only one which He ever ordained, was the nation of Israel for a time, in the Old Testament.  The true Church of God, however, consists of men and women from all nations and countries, who together form “an holy nation” (1 Pet. 2:9); and to identify any piece of real estate in the world today as a “Christian country”, is to misunderstand the true nature of the Christian Church, and of the fact that in every single country on earth, Christians are strangers and pilgrims (1 Pet. 2:11; Heb. 11:8-16).

  Therefore, when it comes to electing political leaders, Christians must never lose sight of the fact that they are participating in a legitimate, but distinctly earthly activity.  They are choosing leaders of an earthly country.  And in choosing them, they must do so based on which candidate would be the best qualified to govern an earthly country

  And sometimes, the best candidate may not, in fact, be a very nice man, personally. 

  Donald Trump may (or may not) make a good president.  It is too early to know now, but time will tell.  He certainly appears unlikely to be worse than Jezebel Clinton would have been, and likely to be a whole lot better.  There may be some good changes in America, under a President Trump.

  If Trump carries out even half of what he campaigned to do – such as closing the U.S.’ porous borders to the tens of thousands of illegal Roman Catholics pouring into America, sending illegals back home, ending the massive Muslim immigration into America, abolishing Obamacare, rebuilding the military, appointing more conservative Supreme Court judges, etc. – if he even accomplished half of these goals, it would go a long way towards rolling back the Marxist tide sweeping across America, at least politically.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Sept 2017, 22:23
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21 Sept 2017, 22:23#2
 Seb, you can't say for sure that he is not a Christian. I agree that he's not exactly a model for Christianity, but only God can see the heart and casting stones ain't the Jesus way.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
22 Sept 2017, 01:09
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22 Sept 2017, 01:09#3
 So, do and say whatever you like under the guise of Christianity or calling yourself a Christian....really? Thought Jesus was the light and he way and set the high standards for Christians to aspire and that the whole purpose of his coming was to be a living example of how to live our lives and conduct ourselves.
Perhaps I'm wrong......and the Jihadi Beeno is a living example of Christianity who according to you is beyond reproach even though unlike Jesus is a loudmouth and crass oaf and the very opposite of what Jesus a man of love, care, kindness and compassion was all about.
Jihadi Beeno a Christian! Wow!
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Sept 2017, 11:12
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22 Sept 2017, 11:12#4
 Seb the first question you must ask yourself is what is a model Christian. Biblically a Christian is a sinner saved by grace.I detect the Trump of TODAY has a faith in Christ. Unlike the anti God brigade of atheists and satanists He always lands on the right side of a subject e.g. he is against abortion. He did away with the Johnston law whereby Christian pastors uttering political statements would lose their tax exempt status.  What you need to ask yourself is why the vast majority of Christians voted for Trum*p. Please have some humility and realize they are closer to the action and collectively have more sense than you do. Trump I think came to faith later in his life. What is certain is that he is fighting the anti Christ globalist NWO. Note how he repeatedly argued for democratic sovereign states in his epic UN address. The satanic globalists as you should know are forming the structures to bring in their anti Christ. We cannot be part of this and MUST sound the alarm. When you look at how Trump won the election, the closeness in certain states, the MASSIVE OPPOSITION OF ALL CONCERNED, IT WAS A MIRACLE AND A REPRIEVE FOR THE WORLD AND AMERICA. The globalist agenda is to destroy Western Civilization because, as George Soros has said, the NWO cannot be implemented before Western Civilization is destroyed. Hence the globalist alliance with islam. Free democratic countries have been built on the Judaeo/Christian values. These values, and countries based on these values, must be destroyed. Soros has also said the biggest impediment to their NWO is America. Hence you have ANTIFA (funded by Soros) and other scumbags saying NO BORDERS, NO NATIONS NO USA ETC. THEY WANT TO DESTROY THE NATION STATES OF EUROPE AND USA. THEY HATE RUSSIA BECAUSE THEY DO NOT CONTROL RUSSIA. PUTIN KICKED OUT THE ROTHCHILDS AND SOROS.I SEE ON THE INTERNET A VAST AWAKENING AND REALIZATION AS TO WHAT THESE GLOBALSIT ARE UP TO. Some gullible souls are still hoodwinked by very fake news CNN who are tanking in viewership in the USA.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Sept 2017, 11:19
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22 Sept 2017, 11:19#5
Dense denise you are free to dislike me as much as you want but when you appear before the judgement throne of Christ as ALL must do what then will you say.  How will you explain your anti Christ stance and take on matters. I will tell you. You will not utter a single word as in that environment of truth you will know lies will not cut it. Best you seek Christ as Saviour while you still have breath in  your body. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Sept 2017, 11:24
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22 Sept 2017, 11:24#6
 Seb you are right on many points. Personally I believe Trum*p will prove to be the greatest president in American history. No president has ever stood up to this level of ungodly satanic attack and prevailed. Trump is turning America around and the globalists are in a meltdown.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Sept 2017, 17:21
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22 Sept 2017, 17:21#7
 Denny, I'm not sayin T is a C, I'm saying we cannot know the heart by observing the actions. We can get a good though and I do agree that ther are some very un Christian characteristics, but I don't want to cast any stones.Ghandi was not a Christian, but he said something very important: " Be the change you want to see in the world".... or something like that. I see it as everyone should focus on their own actions and trying to have a positive influence on the rest of the world. I try and do my bit, but I'm not perfect.  
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
23 Sept 2017, 01:55
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23 Sept 2017, 01:55#8
 Draad, you miss the point...point is you don't advertise yourself as a Christian in the same manner as our fringe lunatic, Jihadi Beeno. And while he goes about embarrassing the good religion I see nothing wrong in ridiculing him....like you say, it's in the deed moreso than in being an attention seeking  crass loudmouth who shows no similarities to the religion.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Sept 2017, 08:07
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25 Sept 2017, 08:07#9
 Even better, he should stick to matters of state and learn not to divide the country. This latest bit of meddling in the NFL has left egg all over his bigoted face. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Sept 2017, 11:09
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25 Sept 2017, 11:09#10
 Clouds, you've got it right. One can get a good idea by observing the actions...I'm saying we can't be sure and I don't want to judge. Condemn the actions, not the man. That's just my opinion, but I can understand your and Denny's POV too and respect that.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Sept 2017, 12:38
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25 Sept 2017, 12:38#11
 You'd swear he's got more important things to comment about, take the health care bill for example, seems like he's in for another kick in the nuts on that score with a vote pending next week. Look, he has no class, the President of the USA FFS, what is with this man doing getting into scraps like a mongrel dog on Twitter!? 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Sept 2017, 17:21
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25 Sept 2017, 17:21#12
 Cause nobody else is taking a stand.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2017, 17:23
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25 Sept 2017, 17:23#13
NFL early ratings down 10% after the showdown.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Sept 2017, 15:01
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26 Sept 2017, 15:01#14
 "His latest stoush with the NBA and NFL is an embarrassment"" says Cloudy
Is there anybody as ignorant about matters in the USA or whose mind is so brain washed by the globalist propaganda machines than Cloudy!!!!
Polls show the vast majority of Americans do not agree that the flag or anthem should be disrespected. The crowd booed their own teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just because the out of touch leftist globalist MSM always side against Trum*p doesn't mean the American people do.Wake up Cloudy you are making a prize ass of yourself as these absurd these globalists lead you by the nose. Trum*p rightly as President finally said enough of this trashing the country. It is expected that is the NFL continue their anti American  BS they will be hit very hard by boycotts. They STARTED ALL this BS and Trum*p is putting them in their place.As for making America safe I suppose you think open borders does that. Or teh pathetic approach to NK and Iran of the previous administrations.  You appear to have no idea as to the globaisit agenda to destroy America. Why do you think their rallying cries are no borders  no USA etc. Wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are incredibly ignorant. Trump Tweets to get his message out directly to the American people and now is in a position where he can bypass the globalist media. He must never stop tweeting.
Go and view the clips i posted about the Alabama Senate election and you may start to wake up!As for being Christian - that does not include supporting anything to do with the anti Christ NWO. It is dismaying to see you so often on the wrong side. Further when the salt has lost its saltiness etc. Supporting Hillary Clinton perhaps the most corrupt politician ever, abortion to term, linked with satanist like Podesta etc. Heck I am amazed at your take on matters. How foolish does one get!


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2017, 00:29
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27 Sept 2017, 00:29#15
 Cloudy, It's impossible for me to advise you on how to deal with a fringe lunatic(I'm being conservative, I could say Lunatic) simply because I'm not professionally qualified in the particular area where a brain transplant is necessary. You will notice that all sense of rationale, logic and reason have long since severed it's ties with the piece of anatomy above Jihadi Beeno's shoulders.
Good luck .
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2017, 02:54
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27 Sept 2017, 02:54#16
Jihadi Beeno doesn't know that he is a Fruitcake, he is unfortunately a delusional little fella.....proven to be THE most difficult to help.
It's appears like his condition is deteriorating at the rate of knots....far worse than I've ever noted.
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