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Blood On Their Hands: World Renowned Doctors Release Studies Supporting Hydroxychloroquine Treatment for Coronavirus as Fake News Continues to Smear Life-Saving Drug

Started by Beeno130 REPLIES678 VIEWS· 06 May 2020, 18:18
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 May 2020, 18:18
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06 May 2020, 18:18#1

Trump right yet again. Amazing Trump is not a doctor but gets it right more of then than Fauci.


Thousands of lives could be saved with the use of hydroxychloroquine to treat the China coronavirus. 

One of the most recognized experts in the study of communicable diseases worldwide is Dr. Didier Raoult:

Dr. Raoult continues to speak out on his tremendous results using HCQ on coronavirus patients. 

Didier Raoult@raoult_didierTwo major preprints have been published. Zhong Nanshan, hero of the 2003 SARS outbreak in China and his team: https://medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.26.20081059v1… Hospital Central de la Defensa, Madrid: https://preprints.org/manuscript/202005.0057/v1… Both are strongly supporting the use of hydroxychloroquine for treating SARS-COV2

The Chinese study referred to by Dr. Raoult claimed the following:

CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE: Hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with a decreased mortality in critically ill patients with COVID-19 through attenuation of inflammatory cytokine storm. Therefore, hydroxychloroquine should be prescribed for treatment of critically ill COVID-19 patients to save lives.

The Spanish study concluded the following:

Conclusions: in a cohort of 166 patients from 18 to 85 years hospitalised with COVID-19, hydroxychloroquine treatment with 800mg added loading dose increased survival when patients were admitted in early stages of the disease. There was a non-statistically significant trend towards survival in all groups, which will have to be clarified in subsequent studies.

Dr. Oz is remains hopeful with Dr. Raoult’s results to date:

SEE Dr Oz video at this link:

HERE

In spite of all the evidence that hydroxychloroquine is a viable alternative for treating the China coronavirus, other flawed studies claim the drug doesn’t work.  Could this be because there are billions of dollars in vaccines as opposed to these simple drugs and big pharmaceutical firms therefore would prefer the big money in vaccines?

Liberals and the far left mainstream media have blood on their hands.

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
07 May 2020, 02:34
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07 May 2020, 02:34#2

Yet, the FDA had this to say:


Last week, the Food and Drug Administration cautioned against using hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for Covid-19 outside of a hospital setting or a clinical trial "due to risk of heart rhythm problems."


https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or


Meanwhile, Rick Bright former US health advisor is in legal action against the Republican government as he resisted their attempts to politicize HCQ as a cure.


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The FDA is aware of reports of serious heart rhythm problems in patients with COVID-19 treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, often in combination with azithromycin and other QT prolonging medicines.  

We are also aware of increased use of these medicines through outpatient prescriptions.  Therefore, we would like to remind health care professionals and patients of the known risks associated with both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. We will continue to investigate risks associated with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for COVID-19 and communicate publicly when we have more information.

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have not been shown to be safe and effective for treating or preventing COVID-19.  They are being studied in clinical trials for COVID-19, and we authorized their temporary use during the COVID-19 pandemic for treatment of the virus in hospitalized patients when clinical trials are not available, or participation is not feasible, through an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).  

The medicines being used under the hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine EUA are supplied from the Strategic National Stockpile, the national repository of critical medical supplies to be used during public health emergencies. This safety communication reminds physicians and the public of risk information set out in the hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine healthcare provider fact sheets that were required by the EUA.

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine can cause abnormal heart rhythms such as QT interval prolongation and a dangerously rapid heart rate called ventricular tachycardia.  These risks may increase when these medicines are combined with other medicines known to prolong the QT interval, including the antibiotic azithromycin, which is also being used in some COVID-19 patients without FDA approval for this condition.  Patients who also have other health issues such as heart and kidney disease are likely to be at increased risk of these heart problems when receiving these medicines. 

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What are hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine and how can they help me?

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are FDA-approved to treat or prevent malaria.  Hydroxychloroquine is also FDA-approved to treat autoimmune conditions such as chronic discoid lupus erythematosus, systemic lupus erythematosus in adults, and rheumatoid arthritis.  

The EUA was based upon limited evidence that the medicines may provide benefit, and for this reason, we authorized their use only in hospitalized patients under careful heart monitoring.

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Be aware that there are no proven treatments for COVID-19 and no vaccine.  If you are receiving hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 and experience irregular heartbeats, dizziness, or fainting, seek medical attention right away by calling 911. 

Do not buy these medicines from online pharmacies without a prescription from your health care professional.   Consumers should not take any form of chloroquine that has not been prescribed for them by a healthcare professional.  Serious poisoning and death have been reported after mistaken use of a chloroquine product not intended to be taken by humans.  If you have these medicines in your home, keep them in childproof containers out of the reach of children to prevent accidental poisoning

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What did FDA find?

We have reviewed case reports in the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System database, the published medical literature, and the American Association of Poison Control Centers National Poison Data System concerning serious heart-related adverse events and death in patients with COVID-19 receiving hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, either alone or combined with azithromycin or other QT prolonging medicines.  These adverse events were reported from the hospital and outpatient settings for treating or preventing COVID-19, and included QT interval prolongation, ventricular tachycardia and ventricular fibrillation, and in some cases death.  We are continuing to investigate these safety risks in patients with COVID-19 and will communicate publicly when more information is available.

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or


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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
07 May 2020, 03:01
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07 May 2020, 03:01#3

Sharkbok has tried to educate the Beeno Trumpet (or at least the Trumpazee element), and now the FDA has confirmed what I have been saying from the outset.

If you have a respiratory disease, the last thing you want is to slow down your heart rate. People die from Coronavirus as the heart is not pumping enough oxygen around the body, and organs fail. Taking HCQ is the opposite of being on a ventilator. 

Trump bullied this drug through FDA approval, but they have retracted it. The person who was in charge and a barrier to Trump was fired-  is now a whistleblower. 

It is only a matter of time before Trump is gone, If he does not step aside himself, he could end up in jail.


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 May 2020, 09:12
#4
07 May 2020, 09:12#4

Yes, I've noticed how Bozo and his White House stooges have gone very quiet on the drug they once called the "game changer" and it's only the dumbest and most ill-informed of the Trumpanzees still banging on about hydroxychloroquine (like Baboon-ou), but sadly, the damage has been done.

Not only has the Bozo administration wasted millions of dollars stockpiling the drug that has since been found to be both dangerous and ineffective, but people who suffer from lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and malaria (conditions for which the drug is supposed to be prescribed) cannot get their treatment because there's no stock.

Yet another demonstration of Bozo's stupidity, incompetence and unwillingness to listen to expert advice because the clown thinks he knows better. 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
07 May 2020, 09:28
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07 May 2020, 09:28#5

You're spot on Rooinek, people with chronic ailments dependent on the drug are suffering cos trumpanzees are stockpiling....... lol. & after that hissy fit the fkwit follows up with the bleach bollocks.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 May 2020, 10:28
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07 May 2020, 10:28#6

How come malaria patients have been treated for decades by using hydroxycholoquine and nobody ever said that it causes  heart rhythm problems.   Nobody ever said that there was any treatment available for treatment of patients and when Trump mentioned t hat doctors all round the world are using it and that there are signs that the malaria drug are helping some patients the media went ballistic.

Suddenly some Democratic governed States banned it and the outcry was immediate since it was clear that the more deaths ascribe to coronavirus occur the happier the Democrats are, since they think they can use it in the November 2020 election against Trump.  In the absence of any real treatment process doctors worldwide continue to use the malaria drug as a treatment mechanism and that caused saving of lives of patients.  Even a Democrat member of the Michigan HOR thanked Trump for saving her life after the Michigan Governor banned usage of the drug and Pelosi and co went ballistic.

In countries where the issue was not dealt with as a political weapon the situation is better and more lives have been  saved and the situation is under reasonable control  (eg Sweden and Germany) - but in the USA the media and the Democrats have turned it into a political circus.  

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 May 2020, 10:57
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07 May 2020, 10:57#7

Okay so I was wrong, we have at least two Trumpanzees who are so stupid that they're still banging on about hydroxychloroquine as a cure for the disease even after Bozo and his stooges have dumped it like a hot potato after tests exposed it as dangerous for people suffering from Covid 19. 

I thought it was just one.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 May 2020, 11:56
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07 May 2020, 11:56#8

Another lie. Will be getting lonely in fool's paradise...

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 May 2020, 12:06
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07 May 2020, 12:06#9

Mike,

HCQ has been in regular use for a long time and is a documented treatment. That's not disputed. 

What they are saying is that HCQ is not dangerous when treating some other illnesses but Covid infected patients don't always respond well and perhaps statistically relevant percentages are worse off. According to them, it creates adverse effects when combined with other drugs. 

The problem is that when so many people are working on one thing there are more voices than bodies and not enough ears to go around.

Perhaps looking at it from the FDA's perspective, one of being accountable if approved medications cause harm, it's understandable that they'd err on the side of caution. 


 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
07 May 2020, 12:37
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07 May 2020, 12:37#10

“  Posted by: blobbok (2881 posts)

May 07, 2020, 09:28

You're spot on Rooinek, people with chronic ailments dependent on the drug are suffering cos trumpanzees are stockpiling....... lol. & after that hissy fit the fkwit follows up with the bleach bollocks. “

And you read that where again.......?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 May 2020, 12:50
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07 May 2020, 12:50#11

See what I mean?

It was the same with the Trumpanzees trying to process the "transcript" of his conversation with Zelensky where he clearly said "Do us a favour . . .". The Trumpanzees just couldn't see those words and what followed or else simply refused to see them.

Anything critical of Bozo or anything that might implicate him just doesn't register with the Trumpanzees.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 May 2020, 13:03
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07 May 2020, 13:03#12

Sure - do us a favour and investigate the issue of  Burisma corruption and the role of the  Biden's in it,  To investigate criminality and the use of US dollars for it was what was the favour to be done.   But criminal activity by the Obama administration was the norm and too many Democrats would have been exposed by a proper investigation - and that include Obama himself, Biden,  Clinton, Kerry, Pelosi, Schiff and Podesta - would face jail time and the Democrats went ballistic as a result.  

  

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 May 2020, 13:06
#13
07 May 2020, 13:06#13

So here's a clip of Bozo claiming that his comments about injecting bleach were sarcastic . . .


Now, if Bozo didn't in fact make the outrageously stupid comments about disinfectant (as Trumpanzees like Ceradunce and Moffie are claiming) then what is he talking about in this clip? Which comments of his was he being sarcastic about?

Maybe Ceradunce or Moffie can transcribe the exact comments that Bozo is referring to here for us.

LMAO!

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 May 2020, 13:24
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07 May 2020, 13:24#14

That last post should have been on the sick-ou thread.

Apologies, there are just so many laughable Bozo stupidities to attend to and so many Trumpanzees needing to be set straight .

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
07 May 2020, 14:48
#15
07 May 2020, 14:48#15

It’s a bit early to be so mixed up already. What have you been taking this time? 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 May 2020, 14:52
#16
07 May 2020, 14:52#16

Rooi is bored at work.



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 May 2020, 15:10
#17
07 May 2020, 15:10#17

"Rooi is bored at work."

You'd be surprised how much work I've got done today in between the banter.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
07 May 2020, 17:23
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07 May 2020, 17:23#18

“ Posted by: Rooinek (10094 posts)

May 07, 2020, 12:50

See what I mean? “

Boooom. Another question dodged..... 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 May 2020, 17:39
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07 May 2020, 17:39#19
Grow up, little child. I will not make the mistake again of wasting any more time with a weak, blubbering little coward like you.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 May 2020, 18:11
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07 May 2020, 18:11#20

Vlag....he knows perfectly well what he's doing. He knows exactly what the facts are. He doesn't care about facts, context or truth. He's got no interest in discussing anything, he's here to troll those he hate...and hate he does...plenty...it burns. Dishonest juvenile BS.

He's not as clever as he thinks, but not that stupid either...same with Snark. Narrow minded bigots trolling the "opposition "...and they have the gall to point fingers at Beeno.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
07 May 2020, 18:15
#21
07 May 2020, 18:15#21

“ Posted by: Rooinek (10096 posts)

May 07, 2020, 17:39

Grow up, little child. I will not make the mistake again of wasting any more time with a weak, blubbering little coward like you. trying to debate you and get my nose shoved up my backside “

Fixed


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 May 2020, 18:51
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07 May 2020, 18:51#22

Rooinek and SB 

During a dull time on site you are doing  us a huge favour by posting absurdities on si te and keeping everybody interested.   Thanks a million for that, 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 May 2020, 19:03
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07 May 2020, 19:03#23
It’s true. Liberals would rather have people die than prescribe a drug which kills the virus in vitro, has wide evidence of efficacy, is believed by many doctors  to help and  has been used safely for 60 years.
And for the last 6 weeks there has been no alternative... but better to not prescribe this ‘killer drug’....somebody somewhere might get ill. Never mind the chance that it might help the dying.
Humanity at it’s most disgusting.
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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
07 May 2020, 19:09
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07 May 2020, 19:09#24
If I was in the hospital with Covid-19 and given a choice between HCQ or nothing, I would take nothing. If I had a family member who was not conscious and I had to make the decision, I would not sign consent for HCQ to be used in their treatment.
The FDA is a smart bunch of people and they are committed to doing what is right. They know what they are talking about. 
And no folks - it is not a conspiracy that Fauci and the FDA are doing this to oust Trump. The bottom line it is very risky to be used as a treatment. The FDA is of the opinion that a patient would be better off with nothing than HCQ. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 May 2020, 19:18
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07 May 2020, 19:18#25

I have dealt with the FDA for 20 years, sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong. If I was offered their ‘opinion’, not based on studies but on anecdotal information.....and the opinion of one of the world’s leading epidemiologists who had treated thousands of patients for Covid.......I’d take the view of the person treating patients every time.


Your blind belief in institutions is touching.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 May 2020, 19:28
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07 May 2020, 19:28#26

Its faith.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 May 2020, 19:50
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07 May 2020, 19:50#27

SB

You are indeed absurd again.   You are free to die rather  than take medicine - fne, but don't expect to get that reaction from sane people.    

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
07 May 2020, 19:58
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07 May 2020, 19:58#28

I would rather take Muti for the Coronavirus than HCQ.
At least I know it will not have negative effects.

Even Trump no longer recommends this drug... And he has shares in its brand company in France...

A game-changer than interferes with the beating of your heart...



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 May 2020, 20:19
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07 May 2020, 20:19#29

Wrong again Trump was asked recently at a presser and said there were good reports coming in re Hydroxychloroquine. 

Obviously you didn't watch the Laura Ingraham clip. 

No wonder you are such a hapless dope! 

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
07 May 2020, 20:26
#30
07 May 2020, 20:26#30
Beano if trump was going to inject you up the ass with an ultraviolet light or anything for that matter, you would say yes master. 





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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 May 2020, 12:28
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08 May 2020, 12:28#31

 

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