Brave Ukrainian copter pilots penetrate Russia….

….and blow up a fuel depot. How likely was it that these slow moving craft would return safe. I’m guessing the pilots thought their chances of survival were 50/50 at best. But they went….we have to admire these young men.

And the young Russians who may have been digging trenches in the contaminated Red Forest of Chernobyl  waste. What concern for these youngsters from the war zealots? History is filled with stories of generals who ‘boldly’ sacrificed the lives of young men. There is no level of contempt high enough for these old men

Then there  are the stories from cities like Mariupol of corpses not being buried because of the continuous attacks…of people scrounging for food throughout the region, even in Russia where meat loaf is being hoarded.  Of lives destroyed

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Ukraine by all accounts was a country of dubious principles before Russia attacked…it’s been transformed into a nation of heroes. And I’m almost reluctant to say so, it’s so convenient for us to encourage their resistance…our applause, their lives.

Was this ordered by high command in the military? Or a few soldiers acting on their own accord. It seems like a radical change in strategy to attack Russia. 

This will definitely impact Ukraine, and they will see their future as a Democratic country. They will also have many people that hate Russia, 

SB

"they will see their future as a Democratic country" - they are not one and has been stemming  from an undemocratic country during the unconstitutional coup in 2014 and also the fact that countrywide elections have not been held since.   They have banned all opposition parties and that makes them a dictatorship - example the appointment of  Saakashvili - the discredited and corrupt ex-President of Georgia  - as head of the Kiev Administration in Odessa.   The latter was a murderous individual in the past and had to flee from Georgia as a result - so now he is welcomed by the "democratic Kiev Government.

Check your facts please - there is at this stage no DEMOCRACY in the Ukraine - the only thing there is a puppet Government installed by Washington in Ukraine in 2014 and has been the source of money theft by Democratic Party crooks in the USA.   

You obviously do not understand what Democracy really is.    So try again after learning what the meaning is.    The fact is  you also support the assault of the Democratic Party on the US Constitution  as well - so you obviously has at present a totally skewed impression what Democracy entails.

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Mozart concept of heroes is slightly mixed up - Ukrainians are all heroes -  Russian soldiers are all  rebellious cowards.    Really funny how propaganda drives his contributions all the time.      

Balanced opinion.

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/553062-ukraine-military-operation-future/

Mozart

I care for all deaths in a war that should never have occurred if there were proper negotiations to deal with issues in Ukraine and there was none, because it does no fit the playbook of the preset Biden regime.

It has to do with the ideal of NATO to ultimately get control of the strategic Crimean fleet facilities of Russia and the fact that Ukraine also became the source for bio-technical weapon production for the US Defense force according to correspondence uncovered in Ukraine.    The products have  now moved to the USA in the case of the Odessa laboratory confirmed by Nuland and the rest has been moved to Kiev.    Those can kill millions of people if released into the public.

Hope a realistic peace  agreement can be gotten - but that would not fit the Biden Administration facing mid-term elections in seven months time.   They need a scapegoat to account for the mismanagement of the USA  by the Biden maladministration - like a reason for inflation and shortages caused by them, as well as a valuable source for kickbacks to Democratic Party politicians like Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff and lots of others.   .        

It would never have happened if Trump was still president.                

BB

I am not supporting any war - never has and never will.   What I am saying - the war should have been avoided through negotiation  - but the pestilence President Biden caused breakdown in negotiations and  that was the reason for the war.   

The fact is that I am still for peace and hope the present negotiations in Istanbul would solve the very real problems in Ukraine  and reduce the involvement of the USA - who  is at this stage using the Ukraine to develop bio-weapons and inciting continuation of the War because of political problems in the USA and the backhanders Democratic Party politicians get from the ultra-corrupt  institutions in Ukraine.    .   .   

"Easy to say they’re not heroes when it’s not your family being thrown in those trenches

Fuck you wankers who support that murderer"

Some of us just think not all on the Ukrainian side are saints...Russia is clearly over the top, but Ukrain has been stirring some sh!t for some time now.

Stirring shit in their own country....
Draad is a Putin apologist, like DumbMike and Beeno. 

"Their are 2 sides to the story"... No, Putin is a spy who interferes with the domestic politics of Democratic countries. It is none of his business what is happening in another country, even if some of the people were part of the USSR. 

Should Russia invade South Africa to support White people, or to fight against White people because of the racial politics in South Africa?

DumbMike, is a liar who lies to himself. When evidence does not support his viewpoint, he just uses conspiracy nonsense - like Fauci caused the war with his biological weapons. What a dummy. An honoury member of Qanon, and other brain dead nonsense. 

He says he does not support the war, but all he does on each post (dump) is try justify Putin.

Plank.

SB

Has no idea about Democracy and think that the Democratic Party importing illegal migrants  to use as voters in US elections through unidentified  registration voting  is enhancing Democracy.   

He also believe dictatorship is democratic based on his comments about Ukraine.   A one-party state is "democratic" in terms of Communist ideology -  remember the fact that in most countries ruined by Communist Governments the designation "Democratic" is even in the name of the Countries and Parties.     So the Communist and Nazism shit he believes in  is really "Democratic?

By the way - you are a plank - as thick as a brick.   Mozart claims I am a sell-out to the ANC - while SB claims I am a White Supremacist.   They should get their ideas in order.   SB claimed that there was no problems relating to Russian Speaking Ukrainians - their representatives in the Ukraine Parliament are arrested  and kept in jail because they oppose the idea to ban  Russian language teaching in schools.

Unfortunately - the coup of 2014 never happened  neither did the resultant civil war that resultd from that coup  took place.   As a result the Ukraine Government   lost control of the Crimea and a large part of the Donbas Region and they want it back - so breaches of the Minsk  armistice agreement became the norm and  that according to him is  fine as well.

When people start believing that leftist political propaganda is the same as news they are "useful idiots" that would believe ANY BS is true.    That obviously is  total idiocy they spread on site..    The BRICS countries did not accept  the US version of what happened and they insist on negotiations that would solve the problems in Ukraine - so negotiations is taking place in Istanbul co-ordinated by Turkey - a NATO member - because he USA is part of the problems in Ukraine.

As to the biolabs - why were the USA funds the biolabs and co-ordinate their projects?   This from an idiot who  believes the gain of function research funded by the FAUCCI lot did not cause the Covid pandemic.    

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I wonder at times - on this site honesty and the truth is in short supply.    I joined he ANC for a while when I was dealing with the link between development of the economy in the Municipal area and upgrading of the living conditions and financial help to enhance the well-being of the  Blacks and when I was involved until 2003 with the development of the Albert Luthili Center in Groutville, basically as fundraiser and  technical co-ordinator and admitted that freely.  The Center is now a branch of the Zululand Technical College and  an important education center.  

I decamped after the ANC elected Zuma  as ANC leader.  To be honest I never ever once voted for he ANC in any election since 1994.   I at times wonder whether  there was anybody as critical as I was of the ANC since 2007 on this site? 

I am afraid that my view on this item remains the same.   I was against the War ion Ukraine and never hid that. - I believe there were problems in Ukraine that should have been dealt  with through negotiation  an that those negotiations were deliberately undermined  by the Biden Administration  and they are still inciting the Ukrainians to continue with their efforts to regain control of the Crimea and the Donbas area.        .          

So you joined the ANC for convenience but never voted for them….you left when Zuma became President but separately expressed your admiration for him. You think the war is wrong but the Russians are justified because it’s all Biden’s fault….the fact that a whole country has been destroyed matters little.

And you of all people complain about honesty.

What did I say about admiring Zuma?  I said he was friendly - but totally untrustworthy,   That shows admiration?    I even told the Mayor of KwaDukuza that his election as ANC leader was a a huge mistake - he  agreed, but stated that the ANC leadership would ensure he is not going rogue  and  we all know what happened  about the latter.   

Another barefaced lie.

Ou Maaik, you said nothing about Zuma being untrustworthy. You said the opposite. You described him as a "gentleman" and said that all the rumours about him being corrupt were untrue.

You're a stinking liar but what else would we expect from a grovelling arselicker who served the apartheid Nationalist government while it suited him and then jumped ship and joined the ANC as soon as it became expedient.

Hard to believe that someone stupid enough to swallow that Nat propaganda and then switch to swallowing the ANC propaganda is the same half-wit who spends all day on these boards accusing other people of swallowing propaganda!

LMAO!

How can Ukraine be a democratic state when its totally a glove puppet nation for DuhmeriKKKa? Nuke them, and then obliterate the archaic evil DuhmeriKKKa and THEN we can have world peace for a change. 

How can Ukraine be a democratic state when its totally a glove puppet nation for DuhmeriKKKa? Nuke them, and then obliterate the archaic evil DuhmeriKKKa and THEN we can have world peace for a change. 

LOL this forum does attract the crazies.