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Cheney unleashes on GOP colleagues who asked Trump for pardons after Jan 6: ‘Your dishonour will remain’

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Jun 2022, 05:07
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10 Jun 2022, 05:07#1

Rep Liz Cheney, vice-chair of the select committee investigating the January 6 attack on Congress, unleashed on her own party during the panel’s first hearing on Thursday.


“Tonight, I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain,” Ms Cheney said, noting how a number of Republican lawmakers sought pardons from President Trump over the January 6 violence..

Rep Bennie Thompson, chairman of the House January 6 select committee, on Thursday opened the first of the panel’s hearings on the worst attack on the Capitol since 1814 with a stark warning: American democracy “remains in danger”.

In a statement delivered across most major US television networks to millions of viewers, Representative Bennie Thompson said America could not“sweep what happened” on 6 January 2021 “under the rug” as many of his Republican colleagues would wish, because the same types of threats that existed before that day remain extant.

“The conspiracy to thwart the will of the people is not over. There are those in this country who thirst for power but have no love or respect for what makes America great: devotion to the Constitution, allegiance to the rule of law, our shared journey to build a more perfect Union,” Mr Thompson said.

The select committee’s vice-chair, Wyoming Representative Liz Cheney, said Mr Trump welcomed the violence at the Capitol and “refused for hours ” to take any step to stop it despite being begged to do so by “his staff, his family, and many of his other advisers”.

Mr Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat, began his remarks by telling viewers that he grew up in a part of the country “where people justify the actions of slavery, Ku Klux Klan and lynching” and noted how even Abraham Lincoln had made his cabinet sign a memorandum memorialising his intention to cooperate with his opponent if he lost his re-election bid.

Every president had done the same, he said, until Donald Trump.

Mr Thompson said Mr Trump, rather than accept defeat in the 2020 election, “spurred a mob of domestic enemies of the Constitution to march down to the Capitol” in what the chairman described as “the culmination of an attempted coup”.

“Donald Trump was at the center of this conspiracy and ultimately, Donald Trump, the president of the United States, spurred a mob of domestic enemies of the constitution to March down the Capitol and subvert American democracy,” he said.

Ms Cheney delivered a meticulous speech describing that the panel will present chilling evidence that Mr Trump’s inaction was deliberate and was fueled by his “intention to remain President of the United States despite the lawful outcome of the 2020 election, and in violation of his constitutional obligation to relinquish power”.

“You will hear testimony that ‘the president did not really want to put anything out calling off the riot or asking his supporters to leave’. You will hear President Trump was yelling and really angry at advisor‘s who told him he needed to be doing something more,” she said. “And aware of the rioters chants to hang Mike Pence the president responded with this sentiment: ‘Maybe our supporters have the right idea. Mike Pence deserves it”.

Ms Cheney also promised that the panel would use its’ last two hearings to reveal evidence that Mr Trump “summoned a violent mob and directed them illegally to march on the United States Capitol” and then did nothing to stop them.

She said an 18 December 2020 tweet in which Mr Trump predicted that protests on 6 January “would be wild” came after an hours-long meeting with his attorney Rudolph Giuliani, conspiracy theorist and attorney Sidney Powell, and Michael Flynn, the disgraced former US army general who was his first national security adviser.

“The tweet led to the planning for what occurred on January 6, including by the Proud Boys, who ultimately led the invasion of the Capitol – of the US Capitol — and violence on that day,” she said.

And as Mr Trump watched the riot, Ms Cheney said he “not only ... refused to tell the mob to leave the Capitol” but “placed no call to ... instruct that the Capitol be defended”.

“He did not call his secretary of defense on January 6. He did not talk to his attorney general, he did not talk to the Department of Homeland Security,” she said. “President Trump gave no order to deploy the national guard that day, and he made no effort to work with the department of justice to coordinate and deploy law enforcement assets”.

Ms Cheney then played a recording of General Mark Miller, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recounting a meeting with Mr Trump’s then-chief of staff, Mark Meadows, in which Mr Meadows urged him to “establish the narrative” that it was Mr Trump — not Mr Pence — who contacted the Pentagon that day.

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How can anyone justify a disgusting dummy spit by a sad gross loser who refused to accept his loss by rejecting a democratic result and then shaming America and Americans by inciting his supporters to storm the second highest office in the country in front of a world wide audience. You'd have to be a low life to find Trump's behaviour acceptable.

Equally disgusting is the fact that he U Turned on Mike Pence who'd been a loyal Vice President.

Trump deserves to be locked up.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jun 2022, 07:05
#2
10 Jun 2022, 07:05#2

The hypocrisy of these idiots stink to high heaven...where are the  committee investigating the destruction of city centers across the USA?...America burned for months on end and not a peep from these arseholes...

America's government don't care for their people anymore... same as the bunch of ANC crooks over here.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
10 Jun 2022, 07:34
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10 Jun 2022, 07:34#3

Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney and a very small minority of Republican politicians  who have the courage to oppose Bozo are the only members of that party worthy of any respect.

The rest of the arse-licking Republican sycophants who are either stupid enough to believe the elction was stolen or else are toeing the line in the hope that the fat incompetent clown throws them a few crumbs are among the most repulsive people in history.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Jun 2022, 07:48
#4
10 Jun 2022, 07:48#4

Draad

Stick to the subject matter or else start a post about the hypocrisy of America burning whatever but this subject matter is about a selected congressional committee investigating a riot that took place on Jan 6.

Thank u.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jun 2022, 07:59
#5
10 Jun 2022, 07:59#5

OK, if you say so....good luck when Maaik comes calling.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Jun 2022, 08:14
#6
10 Jun 2022, 08:14#6

Oh I know......not to mention Pompous Piles

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
10 Jun 2022, 09:22
#7
10 Jun 2022, 09:22#7

I just saw the highlights of the first Jan 6th live hearing, and was impressed.
Ivanka Trump saying she does not believe that Trump won the election is pretty damming, as was the statement from William Barr.

Donald Trump will be in jail within 3 months...What remains to be seen his how many of his collaborators will join him in the orange jump suit. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jun 2022, 09:41
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10 Jun 2022, 09:41#8

The fact is the Republicans voting for Biden has been shown the door by the Republicans as untrustworthy members and they are going to be out of  the House by the end of this year.   So lets look at the few mentioned:-

*     Romney went to Tump to plead for his support to run as Senator for Utah and was supported y Trump - he won in Utah and then think that he could oust Trump fom the Presidency and take over after losing the 2012 election against Obama.    He is a Mormon and his principles are non-existent and he would go all the way to try and lead the Republican Party.   He has links to one of the biggest crook companies involved in corruption in SA - a company named in the Zondo .report was really crooked and fleeced the SA Government and the Revenue service for millions of dollars.    Yes he is smart - but is he honest  - extremely doubtful.   

*      Cheney was the Chair of the Republican Party in the House.   Like her father she is a warmonger with corrupt links to the arms industry.   Her father as Deputy President was the Chief Instigator of the 2003 war in Iraq based on the "weapons of mass destruction" lie concocted by Mueller - remember him  .   She was ambitious and  thought she could take over the Republican Party leadership and make extra money from the Armaments Industry if they could get rid of Trump/    Her leadership campaign in the Party got her nowhere and she was kicked out of her Chairmanship already in January 2022 .   She will be out of the House by January 2023 - as she will not be re-elected as House member for Wyoming - her support as a candidate has dropped to 18%. according to opinion polls.   A typical career politician with corrupt links enriching herself.     

Now  lets get to the selected part of the January 6 Committee.   The Committee was set up by the House with the following membership -  the Chairiman - to be a Democrat plus 3 Democratic Party members and 3 Republican Party members to be nominated by the Parties concerned.   Pelosi selected the members and decided on the Chairman and four Democrats and two Republicans - which was totally against what the House decided on in a bi-partisan vote.    The Republicans then nominated their 2 members and Pelosi vetoed them and made her own selections to serve on the Committee.    So the Committee was NOT SELECTED by the House and is not a bi-partisan Committee. - it is a Pelosi and Biden Committee and is involved in a witch hunt against Trump.   

After the November House elections the Republicans will take over the majority in the House and scrap political propaganda actions of the Democrats normally based on no proof whatsoever and some Democrats and their fellow crooks in the Republican Party will be lucky to stay out of jail for bribery and corruption.   Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, Harris and Schumer - who encouraged the murder of Supreme Court Judge Kavanaugh  - are some of those.   They really are filth of the worst order.          

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jun 2022, 10:00
#9
10 Jun 2022, 10:00#9

SB

Get real for a change.  The Democrats  claimed that Trump colluded with Putin and his election was never accepted by Clinton and the Democrats with their Collusion Lies being used for four years to undermine the Trump Administration.   So what Ivaska Trump said is mild compared to what the Democrats did.    But then you still have not apologized for spreading Collussion lies of the Democrats on this site.

According to   opinion polls in the USA  61% o f all voters in the USA  questioned the honesty of the 2020 Biden election  and hundreds of court cases are on the go with election fraud being the charge.    But then the fake media do not report on those cases so you do not know about those.     

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Jun 2022, 10:17
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10 Jun 2022, 10:17#10
Admit it, Dentsie…you don’t like Trump because you’re afraid he’ll grab you by the pu$$y
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XaviPro1,924 posts
10 Jun 2022, 10:49
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10 Jun 2022, 10:49#11

Admit it, Dentsie…you don’t like Trump because you’re afraid he’ll grab you by the pu$$y


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Jun 2022, 10:52
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10 Jun 2022, 10:52#12

The simple truth is that Trump tried to overturn an election loss by sheer force. He instigated a riot in which innocent people lost their lives. 

Disgusting.

I hope the obese pig takes the stench of that day with him to jail.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Jun 2022, 11:43
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10 Jun 2022, 11:43#13
…is it cos while’s he in jail your V is safe from being grabbed? Or do you secretly want him to this is all simply deflection?
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BlackboyClub Pro702 posts
10 Jun 2022, 12:40
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10 Jun 2022, 12:40#14
Aww cuntyboy you’re just jealous cos your fat ass Trumpie has gone from your arse to a pussy. What’s with the $$ signs? pussy pussy pussy you do know what one looks like don’t ya??
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jun 2022, 14:17
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10 Jun 2022, 14:17#15
Carefully timed by the Dems to give them some momentum for November. But all people are talking about is gas prices. Trump told them to demonstrate peacefully….a nothing burger. 
Liz Cheney is sending out solicitation after solicitation, I got one yesterday…..but I can see why Quisling likes her, she betrayed her colleagues…. birds of a feather.
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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
10 Jun 2022, 14:55
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10 Jun 2022, 14:55#16

The first American president to attempt a coup.

After a year and half investigation, the committee sought to emphasize the horror of the attack and hold the former president and his allies accountable.

Here are some key takeaways from the night:

Attack on January 6 was the ‘culmination of an attempted coup’

Presenting an overview of the hearing and the ones to come, House select committee chair Bennie Thompson and vice-chair Liz Cheney presented their findings that the violent mob that descended on the Capitol was no spontaneous occurrence.

Video testimony from Donald Trump’s attorney general, his daughter, and other allies make the case that the former president was working to undermine the 2020 election results and foment backlash. “Any legal jargon you hear about ‘seditious conspiracy’, ‘obstruction of an official proceeding’, ‘conspiracy to defraud the United States’ boils down to this,” Thompson said. “January 6 was the culmination of an attempted coup. A brazen attempt, as one rioter put it shortly after January 6, to overthrow the government. Violence was no accident. It represented Trump’s last stand, most desperate chance to halt the transfer of power.”

Trump’s own team contested election lies

As Trump carried on his lies that victory was stolen from him, his own administration and allies agreed the election was legitimate.

Former attorney general William Barr testified that he expressed Trump’s claims of a stolen election were “bullshit”. A Trump campaign lawyer told Mark Meadows in November “there’s no there there” to support Trump’s claims of widespread voter fraud. Even Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter, said she was convinced by Barr that the election was legitimate.

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Trump is a potential Putin. My guess is that if he won another election, it would be impossible to replace him (until after his death). Trump junior would then take over the family business. 
Trump showed during the Covid fiasco that he is more like an African politician.

I don't care if conservatives win the US election, as long as it is a sensible one like Mitt Romney or Mike Pence. Not a conspiracist that appeals to Qanon, but a proper conservative that has values. 



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jun 2022, 15:28
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10 Jun 2022, 15:28#17

I  am amazed that thinking people can say 600 or so UNARMED people can cause a coup in the USA with 365 million people living there.   It is the silliest and most ridiculous allegation ever in political history and followed the lies concocted by the Democrats who used lies and deception to try and undermine  the US constitution for more than 3 years.    SB and others - how is it possible that you can fall for that load of BS.    The people are sick and tired of the Democratic Party and this will not help them in the upcoming midterm election.     

Once the Republicans regained control in the House this BS will be eliminated from House records and so will the fake impeachments of Trump- since there were no evidence that the political propaganda they tried to use as evidence will all be classified as out right lies concocted by corrupt politicians  - some of whom are likely to be in jail for their involvement in corruption  by politicians using the House, Senate and courts for a very real coup attempt over the full term when Trump was President.

Amazing that you lot still falls for the lies of the Democrats and the fake media..    They can try to use the courts to get Trump in jail  - provided Schumer continue to  inspire  the Antifa terrorists to murder  Supreme Court Justices - so they can fill the vacancies with crooks that will follow their orders - but that is likely to lead to the total destruction  of the Democratic Party.           .      

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
10 Jun 2022, 15:44
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10 Jun 2022, 15:44#18

How can Trump cheating in the election be the Democrat's fault?
They won the presidential election (the most important one), and the people choose a Democrat as president. 

The sensible conservatives can see Trump is not a good fit as president, but the Qanon brigade that support Putin also support Trump.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jun 2022, 16:28
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10 Jun 2022, 16:28#19

Not one vehicle burned, no buildings torched...no people killed by protesters...unauthorized entry to the capitol building and unfortunate accidental deaths...bar the coward of a cop who "murdered" Ashli Babbit...this was a protest, not a very violent one at that...people trying to spin this into a coup is plain stupid...the redneck deplorable Trump base is armed to the teeth, if they really attempted a coup, the streets would have run red with blood... if this is the best they can pin on Trump, they are a bunch of truly pathetic w ankers.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jun 2022, 16:34
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10 Jun 2022, 16:34#20

"The sensible conservatives can see Trump is not a good fit as president, but the Qanon brigade that support Putin also support Trump."

BS when Trup was POTUS, Russia didn't invade Ukraine, crude was at $40 a barrel and inflation was at a minimum...the Sniffer in Chief and his enablers are the ones not fit to run a 7-ELEVEN, never mind a country....this bloody desaster is going to cost the whole world dearly...wait till the people start starving...Sri Lanka was a preview. 

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AJHPro3,183 posts
10 Jun 2022, 17:27
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10 Jun 2022, 17:27#21

The question really remains the same.

Just how low can the Demorats go?

This process that they have started is going to come back to haunt them big time.

Important documents that should have been entered as evidence but not included in the setting up of this "Witch Hunt" but fortunately during oral questioning the Director of dept. of Defense (Patel I think his name is) while under oath and being questioned requested that the (legal findings) Pentagon documents relating to this saga be entered as evidence.

He then handed over a copy of the legal findings to be entered to the dismay of the Demorats heading this circus.

Not only did he blindside the "Demorat Witch Hunters" with this planned selective oversight of theirs but they had no option but to allow the documents to be entered as evidence.

Brilliant work on Mr Patels part and watching him on TV last night he laid out a host of additional "selective  oversights" that will be used to show the bias and sheer arrogance of the so called hearing.

Stay tuned for evidence showing the CA House Leader and Scumbag NY Senate Leader refusing to provide the necessary protection by not calling on the National Guard who had been called up to protect the Capital.

Not once but on numerous request did they the Demorats fail to act.

This was a planned criminal act planned and operated by the Demorats from the start.

Sorry lefties, wrong once more.

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AJHPro3,183 posts
10 Jun 2022, 17:36
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10 Jun 2022, 17:36#22

Cheney has a ax to grind with President Trump because he called her father a "War monger".

Remember he was the Vice President under President Bush and in charge of the Iraq military action.

All that while being a stake holder in one of the main suppliers of military equipment to feed the action in Iraq.

Sound familiar, no wonder she is on the war path.

Greed and corruption go together I guess.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jun 2022, 21:21
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10 Jun 2022, 21:21#23

Mike makes the obvious and telling point….this was never an attempted coup. To have a coup in the US the military would have to be involved. It was an inept protest….inept because in gave the Democrats an opportunity to lie again.

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
10 Jun 2022, 21:28
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10 Jun 2022, 21:28#24

It was a joke of a coup, I agree with that. It was so pathetic, one could argue it was not a coup.
However, those poor simple people were used by Trump and discarded without a second thought. Lambs to the slaughter. 

Many of them believed it was election fraud. Trump had a right to contest if he really believed it was election fraud, but after the court decisions that ruled against him, it was time to shut his trap.

His own daughter who was part of the White House administration says it was a legit election and no fraud. Along with William Barr the DOJ. 

If a "former" president in any country says that there has been election fraud without proof, some dumb people will believe it. 
Conservatives judges threw these "cases" out of court. Sensible people, not the sad bunch masquerading as conservatives at the Capitol. (The same people that shit on the floor).


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 Jun 2022, 02:51
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Jun 2022, 03:00
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11 Jun 2022, 03:00#26

Poor old Quisling….yet another image of Trump behind bars.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
11 Jun 2022, 03:35
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11 Jun 2022, 03:35#27

Must admit looks funny though...what a character trump is..... much bigger balls compared to Biden 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jun 2022, 03:37
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11 Jun 2022, 03:37#28

So the Democratic Party politicians involved in the Russian Hoax was not a real attempted coup - pathetic since it was based on lies concocted by the Democrats themselves.   There are still election fraud cases going  to court and there are already hundreds convicted of  election fraud - so they have  reason to believe that the elections in key states were fraudulent.

There were 23 charges of election fraud based on irregular voting processes laid by Trump in various courts and of those 14  cases was decided upon in his favor  - the rest was not decided on.   Problem was the outcomes were ignored and the irregular votes were counted.    Once the House is taken over by the Republicans the cases will e re-examined by a bi-partisan Committee - with the Democrats refusing to take part because they were involved in fraudulent elections by discarding the election laws of the various States  and ignoring court orders.    

Now lets have a real example.   On the voters roll for Wisconsion there were just over 150 000 voters that were registered as voters in 1918 and of those  95% voted.   If registered in 1918 the voters would have been borne in 1897 or earlier.    So how did they manage to vote since they must be dead by now.  They should ask the Democrats how that happened.    The shocking thing is that "these voters"   voted by mail-in ballots counted without any identification ever.   Wisconsin for the past 50 years were the most Democratic Party state in the USA - they only voted three times for the Republican Party candidates - twice for Reagan and once for Trump.    The ancient voters role was always used and the votes somehow counted as real. 

In California in 2017 there was a court ruling that about 5,8 million voters were on the State voters roles who are missing or dead an these votes have to be removed from the role.   So the Democratic Party controlled California House passed a State law that makes it impossible to remove voters from the role and ignore the Court Order.     Those 5,8 million voters casted ballots for decades now and that in California was made possible through an election law that allows for voting without identification and for vote-harvesting.   You may not know what the latter is.   So lets explain it briefly.  In States that allow for harvesting party agents has 14 days after the election date to determine who has not voted  and collect "votes" from them.and those votes are then counted as real "votes".

 So lets get to the bottom of it.   In opinion polls 81% of all voters think that registration of votes should be done with real officially accepted ID's and confirmation of their addresses and when voting should produce  ID's to proof the vote was regular. yet the Biden Administration tried to force through  legislation based on the California law.    Thus far it flopped since too many people regard it as  a measure to entrench election fraud in the system.    In another opinion poll  61% of the  respondents believe there were fraud committed in the 2020 election.  These polls were not done by the Republican Party - it was done by the normal  institutions involved in polls - so more voters in the USA believe the election in 2020 have elements of voter fraud than there are people who believe there were no voter fraud.    The problem is that kind of info is hidden by the fake media  who support the Democrats all out and people like you would not know what the real situation is.    

There is ample proof of election fraud in 2020  and many of those have been video taped and are based on fact.     In many cases the fraudsters have been sentenced to jail time and  many are still to be sentenced.    The Court processes take time - especially when State Governments undermine such cases.    In the end the accused started to squeal  that they worked for the Democratic Party and they acted on Party instructions - but that is no reason for them being found guilty and they are the real sufferers in those cases.   

Election fraud in the USA goes back to 1948 and has been developed into a fine art by the  Democrats.    Lets add some real info = why did Reagan win the 1980 election and Trump the 2016 election?     All the opinion polls indicated that Carter would win easily in 1980 and Clinton in 2016.       Under the circumstances systematic fraud was not regarded a necessary.   

Your observations are in fact both ridiculous and ill-informed.    Obama and Biden was closely involved in the 2016 claims that the result was fraudulent because of Russian Collusion and they tried to sabotage the  take-over by Trump that way.   Clinton never admitted she lost the election and to this day claimed the outcome was fraudulent.   A Party claim that the Russians hacked the Democratic Party computer system was never reported by the Party to the FBI  for investigation and was in fact a lie.    You clearly forgot conveniently what happened in 2016 when writing your latest comment.     But then your whole dependence for information is  based on the fake media stories - so you cannot be accused of investigating the junk they come up with.

When documents found in other countries confirmed the authenticity of the Hunter Biden laptop - the media at last said something about the fact that the laptop  was authentic and not Russian disinformation.    However, the FBI is refusing to act on the lap top because it involves Biden being involved in bribery and corruption.    That is why you have the wrong photo  above - Biden will not go to jail - he would be sent to an institution caring for the mentally defective  elderly suffering from dementia.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 Jun 2022, 08:57
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Jun 2022, 09:56
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