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Chicago has the coldest April since 1926

Started by Mozart17 REPLIES1,640 VIEWS· 18 Apr 2018, 00:27
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Apr 2018, 00:27
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18 Apr 2018, 00:27#1
And given the heat island effect in the numbers, maybe the coldest first half of April ever. These numbers are being repeated through much of the huge landmass east of the Rockies. For example Minneapolis has had the coldest 17 days in April......ever. I guess we aren't being deluded by the massive El Nino anymore. Global warming has been a big disappointment so far.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
18 Apr 2018, 10:29
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18 Apr 2018, 10:29#2

A 159 year record in Sydney was broken for the hottest day in April....think it was 36c

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 Apr 2018, 10:31
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18 Apr 2018, 10:31#3

Weather is getting more extreme it seems.

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Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
18 Apr 2018, 13:12
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18 Apr 2018, 13:12#4
Here we go again, global warming must be a hoax because it's cold where I live today.
Must say for a supposedly educated guy, Walter Mitty here sure sounds like an idiot.
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
18 Apr 2018, 13:49
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18 Apr 2018, 13:49#5
Average temperatures around the world are still rising. There are definite changes in long existing weather patterns. In my opinion global warming is pretty much a fact, however, the cause thereof is still very much up for discussion. 
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sharkbokCaptain23,225 posts
18 Apr 2018, 14:29
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18 Apr 2018, 14:29#6
That sounds like propaganda from Trump to justify Mcdonalds style of the consumer lifestyle.
The hole in the Ozone layer is a fact. It was caused by humans, hence proving beyond any reasonable doubt that man can affect his environment. 
Skin cancer has increased following the hole in the ozone layer- another indisputable fact.  The Antarctic ozone hole is located near Australia and New Zealand, which is one probable reason that can explain why skin cancer rates are higher in this region of the world.
At this stage, being over careful is better than being careless.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
18 Apr 2018, 14:35
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18 Apr 2018, 14:35#7

Well, as I've previously said....if you sh!t in your own nest it's going to stink. 

And there's some funny man made sh!t happening out there.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Apr 2018, 03:57
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19 Apr 2018, 03:57#8
Nope wrong.....the North American landmass is is hardly 'in my neighbourhood'. We are seeing one of the coldest Aprils ever across one of the world's largest landmasses.....that's significant. Twenty years ago they told us all the Arctic ice would be gone by now. As for sensing the climate is changing....nope again. Even the jumped up weathermen who have promoted this farce agree temps are only up a degree and a bit since the Industrial Revolution. Nothing you can 'sense'. As for the Ozone layer.....a totally different phenomenon. And sadly the chemicals the scientists approved to solve the Ozone holes, are now known to be significant contributors to global warming. The blind leading the blind.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Apr 2018, 04:29
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19 Apr 2018, 04:29#9
But if you want to be a sentient human being vs somebody who is one of the brain washed, here are the key numbers: 'To finish with the math, by calculating the product of the adjusted CO2 contribution to greenhouse gases (3.618%) and % of CO2 concentration from anthropogenic (man-made) sources (3.225%), we see that only (0.03618 X 0.03225) or 0.117% of the greenhouse effect is due to atmospheric CO2 from human activity.'
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
20 Apr 2018, 09:05
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20 Apr 2018, 09:05#10
I must agree with you regards to CO2. I don't think it plays anywhere near as big a role as the greeny beanies would have us believe, but I do believe that deforestation and the simple replacement of vegetation with concrete does play a role in the overall temperatures around the world. Weather the increases in temperature are as significant as what is being propagated in the media...different story.  
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
20 Apr 2018, 10:07
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20 Apr 2018, 10:07#11

"the simple replacement of vegetation with concrete do play a role in the overall temperatures around the world."

Very true...you just have to be in huge cities in mid summer,even in Europe or I guess Chicago, New York as well...in fact Moscow in July and August is worst than Durban (humidity as well) in summer...unbearable.

This definitely is the problem... overpopulation and sweltering concrete jungles

No I'm not a scientist but you just have to experience this and then ask the old timers who have lived there all their lives...hotter summers and colder winters...can you imagine -32 or -35 C

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,225 posts
20 Apr 2018, 12:16
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20 Apr 2018, 12:16#12

While not conclusive, and increasing amount of scientists suspect that man is impacting the environment. 

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

-https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-global-warming-harsher-winter/

This article talks about weather and climate not being exactly the same- and therefore colder days may also be the result of warming. 

Even most global warming skeptics agree that a specific cold snap or freak storm doesn’t have any bearing on whether or not the climate problem is real. One such skeptic, Jimmy Hogan of the Rational Environmentalist website writes, “If we are throwing out anecdotal evidence that refutes global warming we must at the same time throw out anecdotal evidence that supports it.”

The consensus seems to be that more focus should be developed in creating green energy versus consumption of fossil fuels. Fossil fuels will eventually run out anyway, so having an alternative sooner than later is a better option. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Apr 2018, 18:37
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20 Apr 2018, 18:37#13

Yes Blue, the whole CO2 thing is over played...lots of other much more harmfull things they're mum about. There is definitely some agenda at play here.  Climate change has been going on all through our planet's history. Obviously the overpopulating humans have in influence, but the margin of the influence and the significance thereof are almost impossible to calculate. Will the human influence be of positive or negative...and what is the yard stick to determine that?

Humans are over populating the planet, focusing on CO2 is plain stupid. We need to urgently curb population growth. Trying to treat the symptoms is futile.

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
23 Apr 2018, 13:05
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23 Apr 2018, 13:05#14
Agreed Db! 
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
23 Apr 2018, 20:30
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23 Apr 2018, 20:30#15

We need to urgently curb population growth. Trying to treat the symptoms is futile.

Yeah, if only we could but how...like the Republic of China...one child per family and if you breach this you are penalized and compromised financially...unfortunately you cannot penalise children that's cruel and ungodly...it's a catch 22 situation because it is the littles ones (the innocent) that suffer ultimately.

Education perhaps but in Africa and Asia it's like talking to a brick wall.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Apr 2018, 05:32
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24 Apr 2018, 05:32#16
Fossil fuels have dramatically changed world population....here's an interesting perspective: 'In 1750, the world’s population was approximately 720 million people. Over the previous 1000 years, this population had been growing very slowly at an average rate of about 0.13 percent. At this rate population doubles every 500 years and it would have taken over 1500 more years (sometime near the year 3250) to reach our current population of 6 billion people. Sometime in the 18th century, circumstances changed and population began growing rapidly. Both oil and coal have been used in small quantities for thousands of years. But until the Industrial Revolution, human and animal power and traditional biomass sources fulfilled society’s energy requirements almost entirely. By 1850 population pressures led to the commercialisation of coal and the Industrial Revolution, and the energy derived from coal began to shape the forces that would raise the population ceiling.' And if every drop of oil, every lump of coal, every whiff of gas were to disappear tomorrow.....we could never support the huge population that now exists. The hatred of fossil fuels is beyond ironical....we hate the resource that created the modern world.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Apr 2018, 05:47
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24 Apr 2018, 05:47#17
Said another way.....without fossil fuels about 6 billion people that currently breath the small incremental amounts of CO2 would never have existed at all.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Apr 2018, 10:41
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24 Apr 2018, 10:41#18

Thanks Moz for educating these brain washed twits!. We were bombarded with the global warming hoax for years. Al Gore's infamous hockey stick BS and then it was the threat of the rising oceans etc. When it became obvious that global warming was a hoax they changed to climate change. Now the globalists had a winner as climate does change and always has.

So President Trump being the very shrewd man he is saw what the game was, penalizing the USA whilst letting the big polluters like india and China off - proving of course that they are not at all concerned with CO2 emissions!!! The Climate Change Treaty was nothing more than the globalist instituting the world's first global tax. it was a redistribution of wealth.

Bringing the USA under Globalist rule is vital to the Globalist NWO agenda. But along came Trump who said NO. America is a Sovereign Nation State with borders and will not surrender its sovereignty. Trump also would put an end to all the Globalist plans to destroy America via the Climate Change Treaty, shipping of jobs overseas, not using American energy, over regulation etc etc. Hence the crazed hatred of this great man who now threatens the Globalist NWO agenda. Trump has been joined by an ever increasing number of European Nations who do not want to see their nationhood, values and cultures disappear as they are swamped by open borders invasion by muslims etc. The tide has turned against these globalists for now.

One has to start asking why are the globalists and their MSM foisting this BS on the world? Why are they foisting transgenderism on the world and the idea that saying there are male and female are wrong?

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