Clever given your love of the Ruskies…

….when exactly did you visit Moscow. And were you part of an ANC group.

Mozart

I will answer you with kindness.    I became interestedd in Russia and its people after i read War and Peace.   I also lived in Pretoria on the same floor in a block of flats with a most charming and cultured woman called Prof Elizaveta Foxcroft<  He father was a baron and fld from russia in 1917.    She w a professor in Russian and a exxpert iro the Russian language.   She was invited to Russia fo many confernces on the Russian language - but very cultures and friednly as well.   She isntilled in me a wish to see Russia for myself.  

When I was on holiday in Europe for 5 months I applied to the Government to  get permission to vist Russia, East Germany and Hungary.    When in Berlin for a week I went to East Germany as part of organized tours.   One of the places we went to was the Russian memorial Park and war monument garden where ens of thousands of russian Soldiers are buried,   There were a lot f off-duty Russian soldiers there and they thought I look funny dressed in a safari suit and theycame to ask me where i came from. and they started joking to me  and I ended up taking phtoos of them and tsome asked to be with em paqrft of the phhtotos.    I know tghere are strict military rules fobidding taking  of photos  of soldiers in unifrm since it has seciurity implications but they did not mind it.   They soeak better German than I ever did.    

Be at it may I could not get visas to enter Hungary and  Russia at the time.    When the communist regimes fell in 1991 I decided to try and get a Russian Visa - very difficult and complicated to get - but  by early 1003 I got the needed visa and then went to Russia on my own for a month.    It ws not an organized tour at all and I went on my own flying from Vienna to St Peterburg.            

So I went on vacation for a  month in July 1993  and visited St Petersurg, Moscpw and Vladimir you may not know it - but Russia through the centires had 4 differet capitals - namely Novgorod (meaning new city) foud by the sweden princeling that became the rule of Russia,   .   where his son moved to gvet neae trade with the Eastern Roman empire.    H owever kiev was always in an unstable area  unde attack from all sides - so Alexander Nevski moved the caital to Vladimir north of what was called Muscovy (Moscow)  After he fall of Kiev when Timbelane was the ruler of the Mongol horde, the Russian Orthodox Church moved their headquarters to Moscow,    Over time the  Grand Princes of Muscovy managed to convince other principlaties in Northern Russia to join them to defend Russia  and one of them Dimiyti Donskoy was the first Russian leader to win battls against the Golden Hoard.   Through time and marriages the Grandx Prince became the capital of russia in about 1372.    When Dimitri D onskoy ws ruler of Muscovy the terrioial area he rule was 600 squafekms.    By the time h is great Grandson ruled in Moscow  as Grand Prince the area was the whole of  European russia nt including the Sultanate of Crimea.     the latters grandson was Ivn the Terrible  who added  Sibreia to the Russian teritory and it became the biggest country ever in the world.   .   In eny event Peter the Great in 1700 decided to moe th capital to St Petersburg to imprve cnmtact it h th e cultures and scuence of western Europe and Moscow was ultra conservativce and opposed to such  modrnisation .    However, St Petersburg remained the caital of Russia until 1917 whent e h Communist moved ljhe capital to Mosccw.      .     

 I went on amny tours cvovering the area around  the three cities.     I did no go on an orgasnized tour and decided mysef where to stay and what to visit.

It is vcry interesfing and I wnated to see what Tolsty wrote about and to my surprise find that the Communist tired to retain as much s possible what the emperos and roalty left bhind.   Howeve, they were notoriously bad in adminsitration  and hey were a he same time more oppressive than the Emperors ever was.    

The ordinary Russians actually hated them.    That is why Putin is not allowed a free hand by the Russiians.   Through centiues they fought many wars to protect fellow Russians.   They actuaally hate wars - but would always fight wars to protect threatened Russians like the case is in Ukraine.    Putin will never get support to conquer Ukraine, but they will support him when it the aim is to protect endangered fellow Russians in Eastern Ukraqine.  .   In the case above all the Russians hated Hitler and Nazism after WW2 caused the death of 20 million Russians.   Many Ukainians have family members in Ukraine and vice versa.    Thinking back I felt that they are genuine people and  understand  the situation in Ukraine.   They know that the USA got invovled in Ukraine in 2014 and theat the uS Government decided on who sh oudl Govrn Ukraine.   Amog the US choices was members of the Bandera Movement.   Bandera was  the Ukraine leader who fought against Russia with teh support of the Nazi's .  He lived in a camp in Poland protected by the germns from where he organized the murder of 800 000 Poles. Jews and Ukrainians.    Be it as it may - the RBussians blieve that anybody associated with the  bandera movement is a Nazi  and that led to the allegations that there aqre Nazi's in the ukraine GGovernment.             

I think you would find a visit to St Petesburg and go and see the Menshokov ballet as well.   You will see things that looks familiar like the  Peter and Paul fortress  built according tp the same plan as the Cape Town Castle.   The Hermitage with its  27 000 paintings of all the most famous artists from he 15th centrury to date and the first public library in Rusia containing 40 000 books collected by Catherine the Great.      I have been to many royal places all over europe but there is none   matching up to the Hermitage level.   ..

In any event a realy good tour entail a boat trip fcrom Moscow to St Petersburg and when circunstances allow you should take such  a trip.    You will be surprised but the Russians are in fact very friendly and helpful people.    When I was there the average income of people in Russia ws $30 per month.   For instance on the flight from  St Peterssburg to Moscow I had a seat next to a Russian lorydriver who went to Moscow to fetch a heavy duty truck..   When he found out I was a South African he called the staff and asked them for 2 bears costing 10% of his monthly income.     I found their willingness to help people one of their most charming characteristics.   If you listen to Andrey Rublev  when he said the world should be a kinder place - it is basic Russian belief amongst ordinary Russians.    That is why they survive the  brutal communist regime..  

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Thanks for that response Clever, seems you really liked War and Peace. I did too, but prefer The Brothers Karamazov. Still I’m a bit confused by the town called Vladimir.

Also, given this visit was in 1993, is it still valid. I’m sure to some extent the Ruskies are still the salt of the earth. But given how much society has changed in the West, don’t you think that might be true in Russia as well?

Mozart

I believe  from a political perspective  nothing really changed  since 1945 and that never changrd after the fall of Communism in Russia.    Now llests look at the attitud of th Russians  strive to enhance relatuiionship with the  USA.    in that case they copied the US  constitution  and much f what is in the USA  found oits way into the Russian Constitution.    In ngotiations with the USA and EU it was agreed that Russia troops would withdraw from East European countries adn that an get indepdendence in accordance with the wishes of their people.

The Ukraine situation

Russia also ag ree to grat independece to countgries that fomed pat of the USSR - such as Gerggia ,  Armenia and countries involving  the Baltic states ad Ukraqine would form hir own indepdent S tates  - but Russia asked for three requorements - namely that the enw countries should have new constitutions guranteing the Human rights of all residents in the new countries should have their constitutions approved by referendum.    The only other condition was a request that none of he countries getting  independence from the USSR would be admitted as members of NATO.  That condition wssa accepted  by all counries in the EU and the USA    A t that stage Russia even expressed a dxesire to join NATO themslelves and woud lift the ban on other Ex-USSR countries could eb lifted.   .

However, the era of gvodwill was not respected by the Western countries.   For isnatnce the issue of NATO membership  was on a number of occassions chaleng ed by the Western countries and especially the USA.    In the end the Batic states (Latvia , Lithuania and Estonia) joined NATO.    Russia objected to th em joining based on the 1991 agreements - but did nothing about it bwe3cause the constitutions of the three countries remaind in place and here was no fear that the Russians living in those th ree countries would be threatened by anybody.

Then came along the Ukraine case.the situation ws that they never applied for membership of NATO although there was a move to join the EU.    In 2013 there ws a general eelction in Ukraine and he then Presidetn was re-electedin an election monitored by the  EU counries.   Th e then President of Ukraine promised h e voters before the election that he would apply for EU membership. and h e did.    It is not very easy to become a NA TO member and some very onorous conditions made it very difficult to join.   F or example S erbia and Turkey by 2012 for membership and it ws never g ranted.   In the case of Ukraine it would require a changes in the country - such as appointment of people to root out corruption in a county which was regarded as extremely difficult to implement and would cause difficukties for the Government to implement.    After  those cnditions were received the then President asked the Russian Governnment  about a potential agrement that could be mre favorable to the Ukraine.    The Russians came up with a much more favoable agrement.   However, the people of especially western Ukraine was unhappy with the situation and started protests,  against the issue insisting that Ukraine  should join the eEU.

What happened next resulted in what hapened in the Ukraine af terwards.   The US G venment then saw somethin g in whic it could enh ance  their interests in Ukraine.   They protests started in October 2013 and was eaceful   In the perood  af ter mid-October 2013  the US A started funding the protests through the USA embassy in Kiev.wih th e aid of the CIA started funding the protests and it gort potentially worse.    By the nd of jkanuary the protests got more vivious.   on the police guarding G overnment building s and early in 2014 the elected president fled to Russia.

What happened ext aet the scene for the subsequnt events leading to the Ukraine Waqr,    After the elected President fled.    In  a cnvesation with Nuland (then Assistant Sevretary of State had a telehonic conversation with the USA Ambassadir in Kiev.   whos hould be in the new Govrnment.   Some of the embers mentioned by her and confirmed ia later individue were asscuited with the Bandera movement in Ukraine.    and she even promised to introduced her candidate choices t VP Biden. and itaht n fac happened..   Photos in F ox News proved that hBiden met with the  Ukjraine repesebtativces and soe critical comment as to their past.    People then appointed .    that ws known for heir hatred of russia and all the Russian residnts living in Ukraine.   was known for advocating the eliminating  fo Russia and Rusian Culter in the Ulkraine..    A civil war broke out in eastern Ukraine and that civil war went on to 2022.

The Crimea was a difficult situation and that was the Crima had their own federal type of giovenrment with their own Parliament.    The coup in Ferbuary caused discarding  of the Ukraine cosntitution. and in the process the federal form of Governmnt  was discarded as well..   That leave th e Cimeaa in a very difficult situation.   S o the Crimea Parliament called for a red=ferendum to decide on the future situation.   There were  3 potential questions they voters f  he Crimea was decided on, thiose were -

*     whter Cirmea should emain part of Ukraine;

*      whether to become an independent country;

*      whether to apply to RBusia fo incrporation in the Russian F ededration.

With a Russian speaking population of  85% of the population  being Russian speaking peple and 10% being  C rimea tyartars it was not surprising that the vote went overwhelmingly in favor of jining Russia (94,5%)   The people would h ave nothing  to do to become part f Ukraine govened by a  unonstitutional regime in Kiev.   Two opinion polls - one  by a G erm,an poll operation and the other by  USA polsters that the support for joining  Russia h as increased to 96.8%,    

In any event  there was a conference organized by the German and French Governments to try and find a solution to the continuing civil war in Eastern  Ukraine  and  attendxed  by the newl;y elected President of Ukraine, Merkel and Macron and Putin, as well as the leader of the Eastern Ukraine rebels.    The conditions agreed upon and signed off  on by the  provided that - 

*    the 2015 borders  of  Ukraine be internationally recognized;

*     a new Constitution for Ukraine be compiled and a fter compltion be approved by the voters in a referendum; and

*      the Ukraine should become a neutral state and nt alloed to join NATO.

There was one issue that represented a chang e to the situation and that was by the time the conference took place in Minsk    By the time  the Crimea was not part of Ukraqine and it is apparent that the Ukraine President , as well as Germany and France accepted the fact that Cimea was no longer part of  Ukraine.

Anyway after the agreement was signed at was submitted to the Sccurity Council  fo final accepted and it was accepted by the said Council.\

What was cear it was not accepted by the USA.  Normal procedue was th at the agreement would go to  Congress for final acceptance and  implementation.   The Obama administration refused to submit it to Congress and it was only submitted to Congress in 2017 by Trump and although accepted was never implemented.    The reason Trump virtually ignored the situation ad in fact provided firther militarry aid to Ukraine.    In 2019 Trump found out that aid to other countries were done on the basis of kickbacks to USA Politicians and bureaucats.   He roze all aid  packages in cash to all countries recceiving aid from the USA and insist that a settlement be compiled that eliminate kick-backs.   That was done and was the real reason why Trump was impeached in 2020.     

Trump did not act to get the Minsk agreement implemented in hsi erm of office.    Howevcer he moment Biden took over the situation changed drastically.    The u SA  started with intense training progams for the Ukraine A rmy and for aid and other cash iad progams took off again. 

Putin met Biden in G eneva in 2021 and propoaed that a speciaql meeting  with all signatories of the riginal Minsk agreement be implemented and Biden told him that he would instruck Blnken to start arrangements to convene such a meeting  - but obviously there was o follow-up to that meeting as promised by Biden.

In January 2022 Macron went to Moscow to try and defuse the issue from turning int a war.    In the  discussions Putin told him that there is an easy solution to the problem - implement the 2015 Minsk agreement and thre would be no war.    Macron then ahd a suitable agreement  drawn up and Putin signed it.    Macron went to Ukraine and Zelenskyy signed the enw agreement.    After that agreement  was signed Johnson turned up in Kiev and there wre news paper reports that e carried a message to Kiev not to adh ere to the enw a grement.    Hoever, a week after the Johnson agreement Zelenskyy breached that agreement by havcing  all Russian speaking mmbers of the Ukraine Parliament arrested.    Putin then ordered the invasion of Ukraine since he hoped that it would force Zelenskyy to return to the negotiation table with eh US Government and the Ukraine government would then ahppen.

The Turkish Government as a result tried to reach a ceasfire in the case be accepted.    The frst condition the Ukraine Foreign Minister set as nion-negotiable was the withdrawal of the Russian Army th reatening  Kiev and RBussia wthdrew the army to Byelo.   That ws done and the negotiations continued and was on the point where a ceasefire could be sig ned when the Ukraine Foreign Minsiter from the Biden Government to cease negotiations and sign nothing. 

That is why the theater of war moved to the Eastern Ukraine area.and got worse.   When Blinken went to S A  to get the S A  Government to urge  S A to use its infliuence in the African Union Organization t support the USA in its approach to the Ukraine issue and he ws sent packing  and told that the U SA never wanted any port in any negotiations and that was th reaso for the war. 

There are documentation suppoting the above vesion.    the Ukraine war would have been avoided oif the UJSA took part in neg itiuations to reach a peaceful setltmetn and there was no chance of such a settlement  as long  as a war was promoted by the USA Government.   F act is the USA Government in fact ws doing anything in its power to get the war started and encouraged the Ukraine Government to esure a war started and tod him and the public that the Russian army was weak and would lose he war. - and sent li.mitless amounts fo armamnets to Ukraine.    Since the war started the US A G overnment took over the full fuinding  of the Ukraine Govnment Budget, 

That war would end in a day if th US A support negtiations and it commence  to deal with the issue on a demcoratic basis.   

Global Warming Ideology

In the late 1960's and early 1070's there were scietists ho claimed that the next Ice Age wasz imminent and that alrge parts of the world will be covered by Ice by 1985.   It never matrialized and a nw way of dealing with  fearonering  had to be found.   

I believe the development of the Global Warming ideoloyy into bcoming new religion and that religion was taken up by the Governments since it allows them an opportunity to tighten up Government control over the daily lives of people.    1600 climatologists wrldwide claim it is BS  anyway.

The problem is  that it leads to wild theories like  cattle by farting cause Golobal Warming and cattle farming - he base of the meat and dairy industries must be leminated in the world.   They also push policies that would impact totally on farm prodducion of all ag ruicultural products  - the famring industry is based on  usage of  heavy duty equipment using petrol and Diesel.    There ar no similar equipment that could replace the present equipm,ent used.    So pushing up prices of ptrol and diesle affect the input costs of farmers and will inevitably lead to decline in in agriultual food production.   

It reached the stage where the  Governments now spend endless amount of money on Green energy programs that have limitations .     Insead of using  a real option of Nuclear power to reduce air polution  - but that is also rejected by the global warmin  isdeologists.    There are already 49 milion people in the USA that are food insecure and he numbers of similar situations in even Germany.   

If that happens in two of  the richest counries in he wold then what will happen in other countries. - what is happening  in  fr isnatnc counries like SA.  By 2000 SA waqs poducing food rfeeding SA,   at oese there is not enough  food  prodiced in SA because  16  million people fro  counries all over Africa migrated to SA and now  he counryis forced ino importing food from other countrie - eg wheat fom Russia,   

However, what is clear is that what  he global warming  ideologists want has a counter-effec on food production and is bound to lead to worldwide starvation.    I call it stavation induced by the Globa warnig ideoloists andx that is a rblem facing he wrold.    Whe a gloabl warmig fantic like Gates clai the people should ea worms and insecs it is indeed crazy.    

Co,mpaed the situaion developing since 1993 is fto the detriment of billions of peole wirkdwide and i has already started all over the world..  A most catastrophic situation is developing in the world since 1993 and is ongoing .      

Cultural Development           /                        .     

I am sue that the cultural xdvelopmnt only found one new form - namely woke culture.  In fact is an attack on culture .   That let to attacks on historic monuments during be attacked and dxestroyed in the USA during  the 2020 riots.   I

The level of suppression of he world through he woke cultue is basically poliiical madness,   Children are indoctrinated in schools hough usage of uin wstern countries - bu especially in the USA are indoctrinated in schools therough  usage if Stakinist methdology.  Millions of people in the so-called democratic countries that he Governments are taught there governments are oppressing  people and thathistory is basedon oppression - so it i good to attack everything that could be supporting that BS.   

That is why attacks on like  paintings like the Mona Lisa e is expandig and thee are indeed reprts of similar occurances in other countries. is alose happening.                     

Scirentific  and  communication development

In all fields of science there were massive impovement and acvdvances on every apects and that included medical and scintific development.  Communication systems in paticular had bseen amssive advances.    Nobody cand ispute that - but here are issues that could leadto disaster from a human perpsective;_

*     Uncontrolled usage of AI can lead to major problems for humans an ehance dictatorial contro.

*     We have already seen what can happen wh en gain-in-fuction virus research can result in and  a wold-wde ban on such research should be implemented.     

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Youtuber/Streamer Lonerbox covered the topic of Boris Johnson supposedly killing a Ukrainian-Russia peace deal in a response video after Hasan Piker (another political streamer with a a very large number of subscribers) pushed that narrative in an interview with Marianne Williamson.

That certainly puts huge question marks on a peace deal scuppered by Boris. But the underlying logic of this particular conspiracy theory is also feeble.

If Boris did this he was presumably following Biden’s wishes . But what was Biden’s motivation. Sure he probably has a negative view of Putin. But backing Ukraine in a war against Russia was a losing cause if America’s  generals were to be believed at the start of the war.

Biden surely was advised that the Ukraine would likely collapse quickly, every military man seemed to overestimate Soviet capability.

So if you feel Putin is a risk, why insist on a war with him that’s only going to confirm his ability to threaten Europe. Losing a war is not going to help Biden in the elections.

The US never wanted this war. But after it was unavoidable they reluctantly chose to support Ukraine and Russia was only interested in a peace deal that represented a complete capitulation.

Mozart

There is no Macron conpsiracy involved - it is documented evidence and never denied by either the Ukraine or French Govrnment. and the President himself.   In fact there was a press oportuity in Kiev after the signing by Zelenskyy was confirmed.   I did not mention the issue of the Boris Johnson visit to Ukraine at all - what ws written about that issue is media speculation adn not proven by fact.   The Johnson story may be true or not - but the fact is that Zelenskyy had all Rusian speaking  mmbers of th Ukraine Parliament arrested and that after he signed an agrement to implement the 2015 Minsk agreement two weeks before the Russian invasion took place.   

Putin gave copies of the signed agreement to an African Peace mission after the Ukraine Government representative said that the African country represntatives were told in Kiev they have no right to interfere on issues of Europe and send apacking .   The signature of Zelenskyy was checked and found to be real.   It was reported in the media at the time that Macron went to Moscow and af terwards to Kiev and that the signing of the dicument was publicly announced in Kiev after the meeting between the two Presidents.   If you are wanting to check that in the media you are welcome to do so.

The fact that you introdiuced that sideshow into the  discxussion is weird.  I would have icuded it if it could be proven   but it cannot be at this stage.    It is weird how the accused always face conspriacy theoery allegations - but the US Government is active in enhancing  their own conspriacy theories .     .   

The Johnson meeting with Zelesnkyy did take place and the fact is that what took place is media conjecture and not proven.    What is true is the ARREST OF THE  RUSSIAN SPEAKING  MEMBERS OF THE UKRAINE PARLIAMENT A WEEK BEFORE THE INVASION TOOK PLACE.   I would not say that that had no impact oin Putin's decision to launch the intial invasion.     Why did it happen and why did Zelesnkyy fire the Ukraine Attorney General when she could find noevidence of betrayal of Ukraine  by the arrested members of Parliament?   In her argument on the issue she referred to the non-ecxistent 1991 Constitution of  Ukraine in dealing with the issue and is proven that the 1991 Constitution is not applicable anymore.    Whether you like it or not  your dealing with the issue is imdeed questiionable and you comment is not based on any proof other than personal opinion.   .       .   .       

Anoither issue is why did Zelsnkyy had the Russian speakling  members of the Ukraine Parliament arrested a week before th invasion took place?     Was that not provoation on his part?   What wss even more chronic is that it is a fact that Zelesnskyy has no power to take decisions like that without instructions from Washington - like is confiormed by the fact that his Foreign Minister was instructed in a telephone convesation with a Senior State Department official telling the Ukraine Foreign Minister to quit the meeting in Turkey trying to negotiate a ceasefore.   That happened and the Trurkish Government confirmed it as well.

In any event the French  Government never denied that what was stated above was false.   What was true was that after that snub Macron asked to attend the BRICS meeting  in August 2023 and told that it was not possible at thiat stage.         

I do not put too much faith in the USA Press at that stage - the various Government Departments had regular meetings with the media and the internet platforms and told them what they may and may not publish.   That was confirmed by Musk when he got hold of Twitter and cofirmed whatw s really going on on a weekly basis.   This issue was raised in Congress and may still be going  on.    I th ought censorship of the media and free speecxh is forbidden in the USA Cionstitution - but seems to be going on without constraints even at present.

Mozart you have asked for not only the Ukraine situation and whether th ings have not changed since 1999 when I visited Russia and the Ukraine issue ws one I dealth with.    I am still doing rsearch on other issues as well and will update that report a I amke progress on that issue. 

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 Stav

You quote a video about the issue and what is in the  video is apparently BS.   Johnosn's visit to Ukraine was in February 2022 and the Turkish negoiotiation took place in lete March 2022.   How those two issues could be linked is mysterious.    So I would not put any faith in it at all in media speculatin and did not refer to the Johnson at all in what I wrote above.   I kept to reorded facts and not media fiction. 

What Johnson and Zelenskyy discussed is not known - so as  far as I am concenred it is based on media speculation and not necessarily factual.  Your video above. is a typical example.   

What I dealt with above is recorded and documented facts only.    .      

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Congrats to Mike, way ahed of Mozzzie and poor StavASS.

Educating these loons is a tedious business but Mike is superb at it.

Yes signed agreements were handed to African Leaders. It is a fact that Zelensky is a US puppet so we now why he walked away shortly after the Boris meeting.

The illegitimate Biden Regime thought the Ukraine Army they built could beat Russia, that {utin could be overthrown and Russia dismembered. 

What a colossal miscalculation.

Using a US missile the Ukrainians sunk a Russian Destroyer. In retaliation Russia has launched its b iggest strike on Ukraine to date. Biden is have having a meltdown.

Mozart

I do not go by conspiracy heories so look at he following carefully after the Ukraine invasion Biden adn various  US Government spokesman as to the objects of the US  Government in that regard.

These dealt with the idea that the Russian military was to weak to beat the Ukraine army supplied by the USA  with superior US  armaments  and trained by the UJS officers.   The second belkieve in the USA that it would cause he downfall  of Putin.    

These were summarized by Sntor Hawley at a  press questioining  session after a briefing as to the Ukraine War issue - please see his comments in the following clip:-

https://www.c-span.org/video/?530601-102/senator-hawley-ukraine-briefing

There is no difference in the motivating  of weaapons of mass desctruction lie as a reason for the Iraq war and he kind of reasoning another set of conspiracy theories used in the past by the us Government to ge involved before.    For some reason or anothr the USA thought that throuigh  control of Ukraine they could get cntrol of Rusia as well.     If the  disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal is borne in mind it is clear there is totally no reqalistic decisionmaking in the US Army command,     It could be on their advice hat the US was promoting  the War in Ukraine/     Th real reason or the War is bound o be exposed in future and the dishonestuy associated with the  Biden Administration will become clear.     .

Their are indeed cxonspriacy theories afoot and those include that Biden was afraid his own and those of Pelosi and Schiff would be exposed if Biden does not fight to protect the Zelesnski regime.    There are one others and that the case that if the Russian Government thy would get access to the Russian Nuclear armanements and could gvive a landline opening t attack China from bases to eb established on Russian terrotory.   The latter theory could in fact be real. 

They are all loving BS in some circles in the US bureaucracy and also amongst politioc's  and that may be a very real reason.   They all - and you included - beleive getting rid of Putin would somehow solv e all the problems facing the USA worldwide.               .             

Duplication      .     .