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Started by Rooinek27 REPLIES645 VIEWS· 02 Mar 2023, 12:07
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Mar 2023, 12:07
#1
02 Mar 2023, 12:07#1
It's hard to keep track of which posters believe in which conspiracy theories so, as a reference (and a sort of catalogue of lunacy), please indicate below for each conspiracy whether you think it's true (Y), false (N) or you're not sure (?).
(My answers in brackets)

1. The US government was involved in the 9/11 attacks (N)2. Man never actually landed on the moon (N)3. JFK was assassinated by the FBI (Y)4. There was at least one advanced civilization on earth that was wiped out by a flood (N)5. The 2020 US presidential election was rigged (N)6. The holocaust never happened or else happened on a much smaller scale (N)7. Covid was created by the globalists so they could inject people with harmful vaccines (N)8. Covid was created as a bio-weapon (N)9. The Sandy Hook school shooting was a manufactured event (N)10. Barack Obama was not born in the USA (N)11. Extra-terrestial aliens are among us in the form of shape-shifting reptiles (N)12. The science behind global warming has been invented or distorted for financial reasons (N)13. Princess Diana was bumped off by the Royal Family (N)14. A secret society of powerful and influential people control the world's media and economy for their own gain (N)
Feel free to add any conspiracy theories I may have left out.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Mar 2023, 13:30
#2
02 Mar 2023, 13:30#2
1. The US government was involved in the 9/11 attacks (?) Possible in some way but very unlikely.2. Man never actually landed on the moon (N)3. JFK was assassinated by the FBI (?) Or CIA or some other government agency4. There was at least one advanced civilization on earth that was wiped out by a flood (?) Possible, but not nearly as advanced as today, just more advanced than what's the accepted narrative now.5. The 2020 US presidential election was rigged (?) Quite possible...I really cant believe 80M people voted for Brandon...the most ever for any president, even more than for Obama...the midnight stopping and continuing of counting at certain crucial counties were fishy AF.6. The holocaust never happened or else happened on a much smaller scale (N)7. Covid was created by the globalists so they could inject people with harmful vaccines (N)8. Covid was created as a bio-weapon (Y) But it was an accidental leak.9. The Sandy Hook school shooting was a manufactured event (N)10. Barack Obama was not born in the USA (?) Lots of questions surrounding him. His mom's family has CIA connections.11. Extra-terrestial aliens are among us in the form of shape-shifting reptiles (N) But there are some unexplainable aerial phenomena.12. The science behind global warming has been invented or distorted for financial reasons (Y) as anything else political.13. Princess Diana was bumped off by the Royal Family (N)14. A secret society of powerful and influential people control the most of world's media and economy for their own gain (Y)
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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
02 Mar 2023, 14:10
#3
02 Mar 2023, 14:10#3
I have added some fact-checking for the conspiracists, underlined.
1. The US government was involved in the 9/11 attacks (?) Possible in some way but very unlikely. 
(BS, it was the late Bin Laden)

2. Man never actually landed on the moon (N)
(MAN did land on the moon)

3. JFK was assassinated by the FBI (?) Or CIA or some other government agency.
(BS, it was just a nutcase with a gun)

4. There was at least one advanced civilization on earth that was wiped out by a flood (?) Possible, but not nearly as advanced as today, just more advanced than what's the accepted narrative now.
(Possibly, ancient structures around the world defy the logic of what was possible in those times)
5. The 2020 US presidential election was rigged (?) Quite possible...I really can't believe 80M people voted for Brandon...the most ever for any president, even more than for Obama...the midnight stopping and continuing of counting at certain crucial counties were fishy AF.

BS.
80M people voted against Trump, not for Biden

6. The holocaust never happened or else happened on a much smaller scale (N)
BS, it was real. 

7. Covid was created by the globalists so they could inject people with harmful vaccines (N)
BS. The anti-dote would need to be created before hand

8. Covid was created as a bio-weapon (Y) But it was an accidental leak.
BS

9. The Sandy Hook school shooting was a manufactured event (N)
BS10. Barack Obama was not born in the USA (?) Lots of questions surrounding him. His mom's family has CIA connections.BS

11. Extra-terrestial aliens are among us in the form of shape-shifting reptiles (N) But there are some unexplainable aerial phenomena.
BS, except for ButtPlug. How many people can actually say they know a half alien?

12. The science behind global warming has been invented or distorted for financial reasons (Y) as anything else political.
BS

13. Princess Diana was bumped off by the Royal Family (N)BS
14. A secret society of powerful and influential people control the most of world's media and economy for their own gain (Y)
A small group of people do own most of the world economy. but I would not call it a society. 
A smallish group own a "allot" of the media (e.g Rupert Murdoch)- although not sure of the rest
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Mar 2023, 14:49
#4
02 Mar 2023, 14:49#4

How painfully stupid do you get. Bwahahahahaha. Wouldn't believe it unless I read this nonsense.


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 14:56
#5
02 Mar 2023, 14:56#5
Let’s pick one…go on VisKop, you draw the straw. Actually, before that, let’s list some nutty conspiracies that turned out to be very true. I’ll start…MK ULTRA The US government using psychedelics, and other mind altering technology and techniques, on unsuspecting citizens that resulted in psychological damage to and the death of many unsuspecting people. The CIA are known to have attempted to destroy the evidence and it’s only by chance that we know some of the story while a large part of the true goings on will never be known due to a proven cover up and said destruction of information relating to the operation. Unless proven, this would fit right in to the above. Wouldn’t it?
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Mar 2023, 14:59
#6
02 Mar 2023, 14:59#6

I bet Baboon-ou is a holocaust denier.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:12
#7
02 Mar 2023, 15:12#7
Go on Roo, talk to us about MK ULTRA and tell us how big a conspiracy it was…
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:14
#8
02 Mar 2023, 15:14#8

You're calling it a conspiracy, ButtPlug, not me. Go on then . . .

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:23
#9
02 Mar 2023, 15:23#9
Ah, so unless it’s proven then it’s laughable but once it’s proven then it’s not worth talking about.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:24
#10
02 Mar 2023, 15:24#10

Who is disputing it happened? It's a documented historical event, not a conspiracy theory.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:36
#11
02 Mar 2023, 15:36#11
I never said conspiracy theory. I said, conspiracy. But let’s ask a slightly more nuanced question and see if you can keep up. Do you think there are any groups(2 or more people) in history or presently, that conspired towards a goal that would be to their benefit and the detriment of others? And do you think those conspiracies have ALWAYS been exposed? And if your answer is yes, surely there is, then tell us of just one instance of conspiracy that you believe occurred or is occurring, which has not yet been exposed. Yeah, I know you’ll never give a straight answer. I’ll give you one. The ANC are and have conspired to defraud South African tax payers.
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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:37
#12
02 Mar 2023, 15:37#12

@ButtPlug, 

Please do include some of your other ideas not yet listed. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:44
#13
02 Mar 2023, 15:44#13
Well, i think the 9/11 was used as a pre-text for war in Iraq and i think the US knew they were presenting false information to the UN. They have always claimed it was a mistake. I think it was a lie that ended up killing a lot of people and wasted a ton of money that could have been put to far better use in actually saving and bettering lives.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:45
#14
02 Mar 2023, 15:45#14
I think some multinational corporations pay scientists to knowingly provide false information.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:46
#15
02 Mar 2023, 15:46#15
I think the lab leak hypothesis was clearly suppressed for as long as possible by people that knew the source for Covid was likely a laboratory.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:48
#16
02 Mar 2023, 15:48#16
I think Jeffrey Epstein was murdered and i think his list of “associates” was sealed at the behest of very powerful people. And i think that the whole thing with Epstein was likely an intelligence/honey pot operation.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:49
#17
02 Mar 2023, 15:49#17
I think Eisenhower’s warning of the rise of the MID complex should be taken literally.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 15:49
#18
02 Mar 2023, 15:49#18
Enough?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Mar 2023, 16:19
#19
02 Mar 2023, 16:19#19

The idiocy are supreme - I would say the big gest conspiracy theory this century thus far was collusion between Trump and Putin in the 2016 election - but there is a problem it were based on lies totally concocted by the Obama Administration, the Democratic Party and the Clinton campaign - so maybe it disqualifies that as a conspiracy theory. 

So lets look at the 14 Rooinek stated conspiracy theories mentioned by Rooinek.

1.    The Arabs involved were in the USA for more than two years - either through neglect by the US Government and that is all there is to it.

2     No comment on that one.   Our Black domestic servcant at the time said the Whites are lying - but then she was also the person who when she heard about the Rozenkowitz - said "What a Master".

3     JFK was assassinated - but who was behind the assassination could have been a variety of institutions inclusive of the Mafia.   Nobody knows

4    I have never heard about one wiped out by a FLOOD - rather by the last Ice Age - causing people left over being around the equator and as the ice decreased moving into uninhabited areas.  However - that is not a conspiracy theory but proven research.   The level of civilization achieved prior to the Ice Age is debatable.

5    I leave that one to Beeno and Draad to comment on.   The results were fishy though - the percentage vote was 20% higher than normal and Biden never left his cellar at home to campaign.

6    No comment 

7     Covid was an artifically created virus developed in the Wuhan Lab through gain-in-function research - it was leaked either by accident or intentionally.   That is not a conspiracy theory.  All that is proved is that Dr Death Faucci forecasted in 2017 that there will be a pandemic before the end of Trump's term of office - and Gates was also aware something was afoot when he stated that 2020 will be a very good year for vaccine development on 17  December 2019.

8     Covid was developed through gain-in-function research and potentially it is possible for viruses to be used as bio-weapons.    What is happening in Ukraine biolabs involving the USA in research is dangerous as well - US  Deputy Secretary of State in the Senate under oath said the US Government is worried about the Russians getting their hands on the pathogens developed in the biolabs.

9    No comment 

10   No comment - Trump actually said research showed that Obama was borne in Hawaii - from a Kenyan father - his mother for years lived with a Indonesian man - while Clinton in 2008 claimed he was not borne in the USA.   Politics are always questionable.

11    No comments

12    Nobody doubt earth is getting warmer - but  the global warming political theories are BS

13    No comments 

14    It is definitely not a secret society    Just go and study the World Economic Forum website and their agendas at the annual Davos Meetings - as well as who is allowed to attend those meetings.   Nothing secret about it and no conspiracy theories at all.   The one organization which is more secretive is the Bilderberg meetings every two years - but whether the latter organization has the authority of the WEF is doubted.          

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
02 Mar 2023, 16:19
#20
02 Mar 2023, 16:19#20

More, more

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Mar 2023, 17:37
#21
02 Mar 2023, 17:37#21

"I have never heard about one wiped out by a FLOOD - rather by the last Ice Age - causing people left over being around the equator and as the ice decreased moving into uninhabited areas.  However - that is not a conspiracy theory but proven research.   The level of civilization achieved prior to the Ice Age is debatable."

Rather call it a global climate catastrophe. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Mar 2023, 17:40
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02 Mar 2023, 17:40#22

"10   No comment - Trump actually said research showed that Obama was borne in Hawaii - from a Kenyan father - his mother for years lived with a Indonesian man - while Clinton in 2008 claimed he was not borne in the USA.   Politics are always questionable."

Doesn't matter where he was born or who his father was, his mother was a Natural born USA citizen, so that would make him one too...there was however peculiarities with the pdf birth certificate he submitted. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Mar 2023, 17:41
#23
02 Mar 2023, 17:41#23
To the US president you have to have been born in the US, Draad. I think that’s what the conspiracy is centred around.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Mar 2023, 21:12
#24
02 Mar 2023, 21:12#24

Natural born citizen doesn't mean born on US soil, it means being a US citizen at birth...the conspiracy nutters are a bit confused on the finer details ...that's how I understand it anyway.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Mar 2023, 21:14
#25
02 Mar 2023, 21:14#25

Being born in America automatically makes you a citizen, but it's not the only way to be born American. 

Ted Cruz was born in Canada and he was eligible to be president 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Mar 2023, 13:44
#26
03 Mar 2023, 13:44#26
Ah…did you you see the Between Two Ferns episode where Zack asks Obama for his birth certificate. Kak funny!!!
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Mar 2023, 21:38
#27
04 Mar 2023, 21:38#27

You left out the Russia hoax, no mystery as to why.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
07 Mar 2023, 21:09
#28
07 Mar 2023, 21:09#28

If the US system was different both Clinton & Obama would've won third terms.

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