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Corruption in the Ukraine

Started by Mozart4 REPLIES312 VIEWS· 14 Nov 2025, 16:10
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Nov 2025, 16:10
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14 Nov 2025, 16:10#1

It seems the squeaky clean image cultivated Zelensky has not reflected the reality on the ground:


‘The recordings released by the agency, which present officials and participants casually discussing multimillion-dollar payments, arrived as many Ukrainians were donating small sums to support the army in its fierce, bloody trench fight against Russia’s military.

A payment of $6 million to purchase a property in Switzerland is discussed in one recording. On another, two voices have an exchange about the difficulty of transporting large volumes of cash.

“How do you carry the box?” a voice on the tape asks.

“Oh, it was nothing to carry,” another man answers.

They discuss more than a “million,” though don’t say in which currency. Packing the money in a computer case with handles made it easier to tote, one man says.

Investigators identified the voices by colorful nicknames including Sugarman, Che Guevara and Karlson. Separately, prosecutors implicated Mr. Mindich in court. Ukrainian media outlets have linked Mr. Mindich and one of the ministers who submitted their resignation, Mr. Halushchenko, to voices on the tape. The agency called its investigation, which lasted 15 months, Operation Midas’


In the scheme, a politically connected figure known as a “watcher” conspires with executives to embezzle profits at state companies. In a statement, the anticorruption agency said a watcher had appeared at the nuclear company in the form of the group led by Mr. Mindich.

As the anticorruption agency closed in, including by arresting a cousin of Mr. Mindich, Ukraine’s domestic intelligence agency swung into gear to push back. The intelligence agency is directly subordinate to Mr. Zelensky.’


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This problem does more to strengthen Putin’s hand than any of Russia’s recent military efforts

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
14 Nov 2025, 17:31
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14 Nov 2025, 17:31#2

There are serious allegations and viral rumors centered on corruption among Ukrainian officials and figures close to President Zelensky, including claims of embezzlement, cash transfers, property deals abroad, and pushback against anti-corruption investigations. However, fact-checking and reputable independent journalism indicate many of these stories remain either unproven, based on leaks rather than official legal findings, or originated with partisan/foreign outlets often used in information warfare. Here’s what is confirmed and what is contextually disputed:??

What Is Confirmed

  1. Ukrainian investigators have conducted anticorruption probes into state companies, with high-level resignations resulting (e.g. Energy Minister Halushchenko, nuclear company executives).?
  2. There have been reports of wiretaps, recordings, and code-named figures discussing large sums and illegal payments—most surfaced in connection with the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) and domestic anti-graft efforts.??
  3. Operation “Midas” refers to a real, major Ukrainian law enforcement anticorruption investigation targeting individuals identified as “watchers” or gatekeepers at state companies, including figures linked to major state asset deals.?
  4. Ukrainian media and anti-corruption blogs have named figures like Mindich and Halushchenko in connection with these probes, but have not tied President Zelensky directly to actionable evidence of wrongdoing.?

What Is Disputed or Unsubstantiated

  1. The most lurid versions—like $50 million a month being laundered offshore, boxes of cash couriered for luxury real estate, or Zelensky personally stealing $10 billion a year—come from Russian, Turkish, or fringe Western sources, and have been widely rejected by fact-checkers and mainstream outlets as unproven or deliberate disinformation campaigns.?
  2. Detailed accusations (with wiretapped tapes, nicknames like Sugarman/Che Guevara), as described in your example, have appeared in some Ukrainian outlets but remain subject to ongoing investigations and lack verified judicial or independent confirmation tying Zelensky personally to the schemes.?

Reputation and Reality

  1. Zelensky’s image as a reformer and anti-corruption campaigner has been challenged by some scandals among officials close to him, but there is yet no definitive, court-proven evidence showing he orchestrated (or knowingly permitted) embezzlement or money laundering on the scale described in viral stories.?
  2. Many viral claims conflate general corruption problems in Ukraine with specific actions by Zelensky or manipulate facts for political ends, often amplified by hostile actors.?

Summary Table

Claim/AllegationStatus/SourceEvidence

Wiretap tapes of large cash dealsMentioned by Ukrainian mediaInvestigation ongoing, not conclusive?Operation “Midas” corruption probeConfirmedReal NABU operation, officials resigned?Zelensky personally embezzling billionsDisputed, unprovenNo court, independent, or mainstream evidence?Systemic elite corruption in UkraineDocumentedOngoing problem, targets include officials/power brokers?$50 million/month laundered to UAEDisputedOriginated from Turkish/Russian reports, rejected by fact-checkers?


In summary, Ukraine faces significant corruption challenges and high-level probes continue, but viral claims directly implicating Zelensky in multimillion-dollar thefts have not been verified—many originate in information warfare, not legal findings.?


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Nov 2025, 18:47
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14 Nov 2025, 18:47#3

The article I published was from The NY Times, which is a strong supporter of Zelensky. I doubt they would have published something like this without a sense that something is amiss.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Nov 2025, 12:31
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15 Nov 2025, 12:31#4

Mozart


Where did the money came fom that was really looted. It came from the American taxpayers, Unfortuantely as was proved by the Hunter Biden laptop - it also invovled kickbacks to US politicians.


Lets start with the War in Ukraine, In the US Senate Rubio asked the D F representative at the eharing about a report that came from Latvia media that only 30% of the armaments provided by the US reached the Ukrainefighting army by September 2022. It was factual USDFcomfirmed that and staed that the USDF send a Colonel to Kie to ensure the rot stop. So what happened to the armment provided that ent missing? The USDF kew and the Ukraine Minster of Defense was the culprit - but Zelenskyy instead fired the General in command of the Ukraine army fghting in Eastern Ukraine.


In November 2022 Zelenskyy's wife drove a car from from Kiev to Budapest, The Hungarian Police found $19 million in cash in the boot of the car and confiscated the money.. At the same time two of Zelenskyy's cronies bought two lucxury yachts and the question is where did the money for the purchase of the two yachts came from? The cronies did not have over $150 million needed to buy the two Yachts - so who provided the money?


But lets go back much earlier. In 2009 Pelosi's son Paul Junior and a partner from Moscow registerd a company in California. Due to irregularities the registration was cancelled - so they registered the company in Singapore, In 2014 Pelosi made promoton video about the Companie's oil exploration activities in Ukraine, In 2015 the US Government provided an aid package of $1 billion to Ukraine and the US Ambassador had to decide how the money would be distributed, Paul Pelosi's son got an allocation of $25 million to enhance hois companies il exploation in Eastern Ukraine, When thee money ws paid out it was transferre to a Singapore Bank and the il exploration stoppe because of the revalinling civil war in Ukraine. The $25 million vanished into thin air,


Ukraine was since 1991 regarded as the most corrupt country in Europe so the EU countries insisted on the appointment of a Prosecior to wipe out corrutp activities in Ukraine, The US Govenment went along and a chap by the name of Viktor Shokin was appointed, One of the most corrupt companies in Ukraine was called Burisma. The company appointed Hunter Biden as a Board member earning a nice salary of $83 000 a month, The company was also invovled in "oil exploration" 6 months after that Shokin made the mistake fo starting investigation of Burisma - amongst others the UK Government froze $38 million of the funds of Burisma on the basis that the money was lnked to corruption. Since the golden years of Zelenskyy and orhers in the Ukraine side is going to lead to total isolation of Zelenskyy in the Ukraine Peace talks,


So watch the following videos as to what actually happened"-


https://www.c-span.org/clip/campaign-2018/user-clip-biden-tells-story-of-getting-the-ukraine-prosecutor-fired/5057174


The rest of the story as clearly exposed in the Hunter Biden Laptop.


As from 2016 the US Government provided a further $1 Billion in Aid to assist the Ukraine Govenment in fighting the covil war in Eastern Ukraine, Half of that money was paid to a company headed by Sergei Koretsky - crook as well. Koretsky turned up in 2016 as the main funder of the election ecpenditure of Adam Schiff. Not only that Koretsky registered a subsidiary company in the USA and Schiff hd two of his staff members appointed s boad memebrs of the subsidiary and froze the funding for armaments to Ukaine until the State Deaprtment and Treasury report as to how te scam i to be stopped, Trump then prdered the USDF to buy arms for Ukraine and not totrasfr under any corcumstances to transfer cash to Ukraine, Pelosi and Schiff took revege and charged revenge on Trump. The impeachment ory followed,


I can give other examples as well. But this can of worms is going to go from bad to worse. The fact that some info was leaked deliberately to the NYT and that is preperation for what is going to follow, The fact is that t will cut out Zelenskyy


Internally the fact is the FBI and CIA knew and had as to what happened - but the refuse to act on it, Why did tha happened? There was a clique of Obama employees in the FBI ad CIA that used the FBI and Justice D epartment as a protection racket. What s gon g o follow is not going to be nce for Zelenskyy and co in Ukraine and te politicians involved in the USA. I think the days of some politicians like Schumer, Schiff and politicians in the USA are numbered,



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Nov 2025, 13:10
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15 Nov 2025, 13:10#5

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Turkey and Hungary are NATO members and should not be just aside as part of a protection racket, Remember how the "fact-checkers" have denied the existence of bio-labs in Ukraine. Yet in Senate in the end under oath the State Department in September 2022 admitted the existence.


You may not like it but the people in Europe are increasingly moving to the right politically and the "fact-checkers" themselves are increasingly being discredited.


The famous "fact-checkers" have been discredited totally since the days of the Russian Hoax conmspiracy anyway, .


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